Our Reporter Got Into Gaza. He Witnessed a Famine of Israel’s Making.
Our Reporter Got Into Gaza. He Witnessed a Famine of Israel’s Making.
The people of Gaza face starvation under the joint U.S.-Israeli food distribution system run by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.Afeef Nessouli (The Intercept)
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Musk's X refuses to hand over data in 'politically-motivated' French investigation
Musk's X refuses to hand over data in 'politically motivated' French investigation
Elon Musk's X on Monday denied allegations made by French authorities as part of a criminal investigation into alleged data tampering and fraud.Arjun Kharpal (CNBC)
Trump shares generated video of FBI agents arresting Obama
Trump shares generated video of FBI agents arresting Obama
President Donald Trump on Sunday shared a generated video of agents with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) arresting former President Barack Obama.The vRAY LEWIS | The National News Desk (KOMO)
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We should stop saying that he might be in that list, and ask for it to be released.
Instead we know and should claim that he is in the leaked list.
Because he is, he can release it to prove his innocence, or hide it and prove his guilt.
MAGA meme. There is no Republican party any more. It's the MAGA Party. Republicans are like Whigs, only refer to them in a historical context.
They made their choice, now let them live with it. The Republican Party died on their watch, and now it's the MAGA Party.
This Is the Presidency John Roberts Has Built: The country is witnessing the creation of an all-powerful institution, and one man is responsible.
This Is the Presidency John Roberts Has Built
The country is witnessing the creation of an all-powerful institution, and one man is responsible.Peter M. Shane (The Atlantic)
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No one on the Supreme Court has gone further to enable Donald Trump’s extreme exercise of presidential power than the chief justice of the United States, John Roberts.Roberts upheld the first Trump administration’s “Muslim ban” on the grounds that the president’s national-security role precludes courts from taking account of the bigotry undergirding an immigration order. He remanded a lower court’s enforcement of a congressional subpoena for Trump’s financial information, writing that “without limits on its subpoena powers,” Congress could exert “imperious” control over the executive branch and “aggrandize itself at the President’s expense.” He has come close to giving the president an untrammeled right to fire any officer in the executive branch at will. And he took the lead in inventing a presidential immunity from criminal prosecution that could exempt the president from accountability for even the most corrupt exercises of his official functions.
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If Biden had any guts he'd have just started a parallel Supreme Court. Forget impeaching them, just stop listenening to them, start a new court. One that doesn't have six dunderheads.
Yeah yeah yeah, I hear the complaints. "Wull, if Biden did that, what's stopping Republicans from doing the same?" We are WELL past that point.
Is that one man’s name secretly Merrick Garland? The man who had four years to prosecute and didn’t?
If not he should at least be a dishonorable mention.
Tulsi Gabbard uses the Twitter Files playbook to mislead gullible MAGA Fools
Trump is facing a bunch of pushback over the Jeffrey Epstein nonsense, so he needed some big new distraction quickly.
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard stepped up Friday with a supposed bombshell, claiming to have discovered that the Obama administration concocted false intelligence reports that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election.
This is deliberate disinformation using the exact same Twitter Files playbook. The pattern is always identical: release narrow technical documents that most people won’t understand, surround them with inflammatory innuendo, then hand them off to gullible rubes like Matt Taibbi who will falsely claim the biggest scandal in history just dropped.
Tulsi Gabbard Uses The Twitter Files Playbook To Mislead Gullible MAGA Fools
I’ve been warning people since the beginning of the year to expect the Trump regime to use the Twitter Files playbook on the US government and now we’re seeing exactly that play out. Trump is facin…Techdirt
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It was never gonna be a life sentence. Life was the maximum the judge could have allowed, but it wasn't gonna get that far.
This guy didn't fire the fatal shot, and in fact none of the shots he fired found anyone. But he fired 10 shots, blindly into the apartment, after being fired up in by Taylor's boyfriend (who thought they were being robbed). And he wasn't convicted of murder or attempted murder, but rather under civil rights laws of depriving Taylor of her civil rights (which is phrasing only a lawyer would love).
If anything, he's lucky he's such a poor shot. If he had hit anyone he would have been in a lot more trouble.
3 years doesn't feel like enough for negligent homicide. Admittedly, I have minimal details other than they shot through a covered window and killed Breonna, which feels like enough information in itself to determine that 3 years wasn't enough.
Also, fuck Trump and his ilk asking for 1 day. They're a waste of oxygen.
This guy was part of the raiding party, shot blindly ten times but didn't hit anyone (purely by chance mind you), hence the lighter sentence.
DOJ was looking for one day of prison time so when I saw three years I felt like it was a win
MAGA acolyte Marjorie Taylor Greene votes alongside Tlaib and Omar to cut US funding for Israel
By MEE staff
Published date: 18 July 2025 20:59 BST
Hardline America Firster and staunch Trump supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene voted alongside progressive Democrat Congresswomen Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar to strip Israel of $500m in US funding, hours after it bombed the Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza.The House of Representatives, however, rejected in a 422-6 vote on Thursday, to cut funding for the Israeli Cooperative Program - an agreement through which the US provides Israel with $500m to boost its missile programmes.
It is a separate allocation from the $3.3bn the US sends Israel as "security assistance" every year.
Maga acolyte Marjorie Taylor Greene votes alongside Tlaib and Omar to cut US funding for Israel
Hardline America Firster and staunch Trump supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene voted alongside progressive Democrat Congresswomen Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar to strip Israel of $500m in US funding, hours after it bombed the Holy Family Catholic Church …MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
MAGA acolyte Marjorie Taylor Greene votes alongside Tlaib and Omar to cut US funding for Israel
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/33488629
By MEE staff
Published date: 18 July 2025 20:59 BST
Hardline America Firster and staunch Trump supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene voted alongside progressive Democrat Congresswomen Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar to strip Israel of $500m in US funding, hours after it bombed the Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza.The House of Representatives, however, rejected in a 422-6 vote on Thursday, to cut funding for the Israeli Cooperative Program - an agreement through which the US provides Israel with $500m to boost its missile programmes.
It is a separate allocation from the $3.3bn the US sends Israel as "security assistance" every year.
MAGA acolyte Marjorie Taylor Greene votes alongside Tlaib and Omar to cut US funding for Israel
By MEE staff
Published date: 18 July 2025 20:59 BSTHardline America Firster and staunch Trump supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene voted alongside progressive Democrat Congresswomen Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar to strip Israel of $500m in US funding, hours after it bombed the Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza.The House of Representatives, however, rejected in a 422-6 vote on Thursday, to cut funding for the Israeli Cooperative Program - an agreement through which the US provides Israel with $500m to boost its missile programmes.
It is a separate allocation from the $3.3bn the US sends Israel as "security assistance" every year.
Maga acolyte Marjorie Taylor Greene votes alongside Tlaib and Omar to cut US funding for Israel
Hardline America Firster and staunch Trump supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene voted alongside progressive Democrat Congresswomen Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar to strip Israel of $500m in US funding, hours after it bombed the Holy Family Catholic Church …MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
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The House of Representatives, however, rejected in a 422-6 vote on Thursday,
Why is the only thing both sides enthusiastically agree on is giving billions to Israel?
ETA:
"It's becoming like, wait a minute, what about our own country? What about our own people?"
You're this close Marjorie. "Our own country?" No, They own the country. "Our own people?" They own the people.
Government sources indicate that the US really only imports from two Middle Eastern countries: Iraq and Saudi Arabia. I don't see how either of those countries would be particularly displeased if the US cuts off Israel.
Israel is a useless ally. They just hold their hands out for American money and don't seem to provide anything in return other than bad press. Maybe you could make an argument that Israel's position is beneficial for regional stability, but I don't see why other countries couldn't fill that role. There is no shortage of strongmen in the Middle East. Yeah, they're the "oNlY deMocRaCy iN tHe MiddLe EasT" but that means nothing if their electorate always just votes for politicians who want to massacre their neighbours.
Israel isn't just a useless ally. They're a fucking liability as an ally. America is like the 7ft tall 300lb quite guy in the hoodie standing in the corner, and Israel is his 5'2 'friend' who gets constant handouts, but acts like a complete dick hole to everyone and provokes fights that they can't win on their own.
Israel is a fucking mistake made possible by the compromises and lack of foresight post WW2.
This is not at all a critique on the Jewish faith, just on the nation of Israel
I think you missed the point with my post, which is fair since the way I said it doesn't look like criticism.
Israel itself is useless. We only support it as a foothold into the middle east. As you said, anybody else could theoretically fill that role, but the reality of it is that much of the middle east hates the United States. If we lose Israel, America would have to spend a lot more to regain that foothold.
To make it perfectly clear, I am in agreement that the United States should drop them as an ally and leave the middle east alone altogether.
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If that money were all distributed to our education system, it would only really go to the children of the US, so it makes less sense to evaluate that money on a per-american basis.
That money would also be going to institutions as opposed to the students, so a more practical evaluation would be to see what amounts would go to each school.
At the end of the day, though, we know that $3.3bn isn't going to education - not even a bit.
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Of which, roughly speaking about 23% are under 18 and school-aged if census.gov is to be trusted
Around $40 per student could still do an incredible amount of good across our national school system. A given school's graduating class might range anywhere from 50-2,000 students and you'll have 3-4 of those per school. That's potentially $320,000 for a single large school by this napkin math assuming those funds are distributed perfectly evenly according to student population. If put to more strategic use this could be an incredible boon to lower income schools in many, many areas.
The U.S. Adult and Under-Age-18 Populations: 2020 Census
View the percentage of the population that was aged 18 and over in 2020 for your state.Census.gov
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Not even getting into how Israels have all the "socialism" stuff we say we can't afford for ourselves.
If universal healthcare and free college isn't worth it for Americans, why are we giving Israel billions annually? Shouldn't Israel stop that "frivolous" spending to lower the amount they need from foreign countries?
But like, when they House votes 422-6 for something like this, it's pointless to think logic will change the mind of any of the 422.
It's a hard thing to admit, but we need to be able to say a foreign government has clearly bought off both parties of our government.
And nothing will convince the compromised politicians to stop, we have to vote them out. D or R every one of those 422 needs to go. MTG still needs to go too, there's plenty of other reasons
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The US has a handful of what one might reasonably call adversaries militarily. If not only China at this point, considering the Russian military has been exposed as being quite a joke over the last several years.
Iran isnt remotely a military adversary of the US, or any of the other groups/countries Israel beefs with. Saying we pay them to fight proxy wars is a bit more than a stretch
Seriously. We subsidize them to the point where they have universal healthcare, social safety nets, robust education, and in return they turned Palestine into a prison state, and now a literal genocide.
We need to realize that Israel gets free passes because their Epstein honey pot ensnared generations of western political leaders, and that's why in America, we need to purge our political leadership of anyone over 65 for registered parties. The world they grew up in is gone, and they were the ones that destroyed it. They can hand over the reigns, or be removed from them forcefully
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Ambitious! It would actually go to military industrial contracts more directly (maybe in R&D for new weapons) so as "not to disrupt the economy".
And they'd be mostly fine with it.
Aren't all the MAGAts screaming "America first?"
Seems awful not "us first"
The hypocrisy is astounding
They literally spent 2 billion of OUR money SPECIFICALLY on immigrants, legal or otherwise. Nearly all of which were working, paying taxes, and contributing to the economy.
MAGAt pedos would rather spend 2 billion destroying lives and families, than feeding, educating, and giving healthcare to Americans. The entire party is built on bad faith and treason.
This was a performative act to drive the narrative. She looks a fool cause she didn't realize the party only follows along to orders from the top (i.e. not her).
And y'all are still playing into it. So it's working anyways. WTF
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What if they go so far politically right... they come out the other side?
Nah....
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She's MAGA (AKA a Nazi-fetishist), so the motivations are most definitely Jewish-hatred.
There I elaborated your feelings
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Yes, it's wild that the only politicians criticizing Israel are doing it for the wrong reason.
Except for Spain. I think Spain is the only country doing the right thing here for the right reason. Go Spain! And South Africa. Shame on everyone else.
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Can you explain in detail what you mean? I see her bluesky and she clearly shared the roll call with her voting against the funding.
Edit: nvm i found out by reading the comments on her post. She didnt support an amendment to the defense bill and epsitne didnt kill himself.
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez defends decision to support military aid for Israel
By MEE staff
Published date: 21 July 2025 21:11 BST
The New York lawmaker voted against an amendment by Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene last week that sought to block $500m in Congress' annual defence spending bill for Israel's Iron Dome programme.
Fellow Democrats Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar [as well as Democrats Al Green of Texas, Summer Lee of Pennsylvania and Republican Thomas Massie of Kentucky - PL] had supported Taylor Greene's amendment, which eventually lost in a 422-6 vote.
In a post on X on Saturday, Ocasio-Cortez claimed that Greene's amendment did "nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza".
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez defends decision to support military aid for Israel
US Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has come under fire for defending her decision to support a bill which will see more military aid go to Israel's Iron Dome air defence system.MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez defends decision to support military aid for Israel
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/33487836
By MEE staff
Published date: 21 July 2025 21:11 BSTThe New York lawmaker voted against an amendment by Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene last week that sought to block $500m in Congress' annual defence spending bill for Israel's Iron Dome programme.
Fellow Democrats Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar [as well as Democrats Al Green of Texas, Summer Lee of Pennsylvania and Republican Thomas Massie of Kentucky - PL] had supported Taylor Greene's amendment, which eventually lost in a 422-6 vote.
In a post on X on Saturday, Ocasio-Cortez claimed that Greene's amendment did "nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza".
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez defends decision to support military aid for Israel
By MEE staff
Published date: 21 July 2025 21:11 BSTThe New York lawmaker voted against an amendment by Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene last week that sought to block $500m in Congress' annual defence spending bill for Israel's Iron Dome programme.
Fellow Democrats Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar [as well as Democrats Al Green of Texas, Summer Lee of Pennsylvania and Republican Thomas Massie of Kentucky - PL] had supported Taylor Greene's amendment, which eventually lost in a 422-6 vote.
In a post on X on Saturday, Ocasio-Cortez claimed that Greene's amendment did "nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza".
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez defends decision to support military aid for Israel
US Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has come under fire for defending her decision to support a bill which will see more military aid go to Israel's Iron Dome air defence system.MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
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Did you actually read the article? If you did, did you catch the word salad in her X‑post? She’s basically trusting that when we say "this money is for your defense system, the Iron Dome" Israel will actually use it just for the Iron Dome, and only the Iron Dome.
Also, does this make sense to you at all? Like do you agree with this?
“Along with other US-funded interceptor systems, the Iron Dome has emboldened Israel to invade or bomb no less than five different countries in the past two years.”
Israel isn't such an honest country that they'll use the money we send them according to our allocations. She fucked up big time and now she's trying to defend her fuck up and is doing a terrible job.
She didn't vote to fund, she voted against cutting the iron dome expenditures on an amendment
It's not a great look, but the way she's handled it has been far more disappointing
AOC's post:
Marjorie Taylor Greene’s amendment does nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza. Of course I voted against it.What it does do is cut off defensive Iron Dome capacities while allowing the actual bombs killing Palestinians to continue.
I have long stated that I do not believe that adding to the death count of innocent victims to this war is constructive to its end. That is a simple and clear difference of opinion that has long been established.
I remain focused on cutting the flow of US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide in Gaza.
AOC is a beautifully blooming neoliberal, and it's time for all to stop worshipping her. She had proven over and over again that she'll vote for neo-liberal interests above all and justify it by wrapping it with a bow of humanity.
Think of all the American lives that could be saved with that money before you justify spending on the iron dome to protect foreigners from the consequences of committing Genocide. AOC is not your friend.
She's not a neo liberal... Maybe she'll become a liberal at worst
I believe she's a good person, I believe she's a true blue progressive...I just think she has terrible political instincts. It seems like she's making backroom deals that don't benefit her positions or even herself
I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. And I don't think Bernie has been a good influence
We need fighters, and it's been too long since she actually fought. I still think she'll be part of the solution, but she's not panning out into what I hoped she'd be
I believe she's a good person, I believe she's a true blue progressive
Everything you typed after this implies the opposite. It's painful to accept that someone you admired might no longer be who you thought they were. But the sooner you let go of that attachment, the clearer things become. She is not your friend. You do not join the Democratic Party to fight it from within. You join it to become part of its machinery.
Look at her record and measure it against her rhetoric. She voted to fund the Iron Dome in 2021 and then cried on the House floor. That was not courage. That was shame. She has now voted against cutting funding to Israel’s military while bombs are falling on Gaza. She condemns genocide and then votes to fund it. That is not strategy. That is betrayal.
She avoids confrontation with her party even when that party is enabling mass death. She speaks of justice, then backs imperial budgets. She delays, reframes, and pacifies while Palestinians are being erased. Her presence is soothing for liberals and neutralizing for movements. She functions as a release valve. She gives you a reason to believe in a system that should be dismantled.
You said she might be making backroom deals that do not benefit her or her ideals. That is what co-optation looks like. It does not require corruption. It only requires surrender. It happens when staying in the room becomes more important than changing what the room represents.
It is not that she is inactive. It is that she actively helps preserve a violent status quo. That makes her dangerous in a different way. Not because she is cruel, but because she is trusted.
Being disappointed is honest. But if you continue to hold onto the belief that she is still part of the solution, you will miss what she has already become. She is no longer a fighter. She is now a barrier.
She's not a barrier, she's still signal boosting progressives all over. She's just not the fighter we need, but she's not truly compromised... At least not yet
We can't just totally disavow people at the first mistake. She's still on our team, even if she's getting valid criticism and responding terribly.
I honestly wonder why she came out crying, and since then has actually been consistent on the iron dome. What did Pelosi say? What did she show her? My guess is she showed her dead Israeli children from before the iron dome. Her position is coherent, it's just naive
And I think Bernie is the main reason she hasn't been vocal in her criticism for Democrats. AOC has been open in that she doesn't know what she's doing but is trying her best...I believe she's still is. Now she's just getting bad/dated guidance and turning into another Bernie
And Bernie has been consistent and good his entire career... I'm confident she'll be the same
That being said, I thought people were mostly being sexist when they said she was too young to be president... But now I just think she doesn't have the sauce
She's still on our side, she just can't be the leader. And that's disappointing
Yep.
It's one issue, and she's not out there declaring fealty to Israel, it's specifically the iron dome. It's a bad take, but I think it's an honest one. I think she doesn't have the stomach to do the math with civilian lives, she's just trying to save everyone, which is understandable but naive
I feel for the Palestinians, but they're already building camps and disappearing people in our country. The only way to actually stop this is to twist Bibi's nuts until he allows the world to come in and enforce an end to this.
And we're never going to do that without progressives in power anyways, so we can't declare her lost over a less than perfect take on one issue. And she is with us on putting a stop to this
Hell, for all I know Pelosi showed her IDF plans to glass the entire strip instantly if the dome ever goes down
My real problem is how she handled the criticism. That part was weak and whiny, someone with the sauce would have owned it. She could have said "look, I hear you, but this is a hard choice and I can only do what I think is right". She could have just taken it on the chin and waited for it to go away.
Instead she tried to weasel out of it, and that's what losers do. And we're all going to die if we don't start winning, so I still want her high up in Democratic leadership. I definitely want her on the team
I just think she isn't the hero we all rally behind, and unfortunately Mumdani can't be president
Agreed. And it's a real problem on the left, because we actually believe in things.
We really need to take a breath, ask where are we and where do I want us to go, and ask if this person is pushing in the same general direction
It's all about momentum
I think you maybe misread it. It does nothing to stop offensive weapons. It does cut off "defensive" weapons.
I dont agree with her assumption that defensive weapons are fine but offensieve weapons are what needs to stop. Defensive weaponsallow Israel to act with impunity. They are part of the problem. If we are supplying Israel with defensive weapons and we are all just ok with that, we should supply lebanon, Iran, Palestine, Egypt, and syira with defenesive weapons too, if they are such peaceful and righteous things? And why is it on the US taxpayer to pay for these? We aren't Israel's daddy and we dont owe them anything. Let them buy their own. They have free college, free health care, etc, and we dont.
Here it is again:
AOC’s post:
Marjorie Taylor Greene’s amendment does nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza. Of course I voted against it.
What it does do is cut off defensive Iron Dome capacities while allowing the actual bombs killing Palestinians to continue.
I have long stated that I do not believe that adding to the death count of innocent victims to this war is constructive to its end. That is a simple and clear difference of opinion that has long been established.
I remain focused on cutting the flow of US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide in Gaza.
So, this is a dumb explanation. It's like saying you would never support giving a knight a sword, just armor and a sheild. The armor and sheild are what let's him mow down peasants on the battlefield with impunity, you can't separate them out.
That being said, this is getting fucking ridiculous. The amendment was never going to pass (it got 6 votes), so this was entirely symbolic. Beyond that, she voted against the defense spending bill it was attached to, so in end, she didn't support arms to anyone. She's also one of the strongest voices on Gaza in congress (an admittedly low bar); she's been voting against sending arms to Israel since before October 7th, she usually votes, "present," on Iron Dome funding, and she's called what's happening in Gaza a genocide on the House floor. I can count on one hand the number of U.S. politicians willing to say, "genocide," when talking about Israel. Behind Omar and Talib, she's probably the most reliable pro-Palestinian Representative.
I'm assuming that she had some reason for voting against the amendment, and I assume it has to do with optics. Maybe she she thought siding with MTG would hurt her, maybe she thought voting against the Iron Dome would make her vulnerable to AIPAC attacks. It sucks, but Bowman and Bush both lost their seats to AIPAC money. The reality is you have to play politics sometimes, and if that means not making a symbolic vote for a doomed amendment, that's not the worst compromise to make.
Literally giving aid to Palestinians or threatening to stop funding Israel is seen as helping the aggressor protect itself from the consequences of their actions. Pretty straightforward. A lot of people see all the genocide as 100% justified.
Hamas did some really brutal shit. That doesn't justify murdering people.
How does restricting Israel's defense assets from the United States, which they are perfectly capable of manufacturing on their own, result in murdering people? Is the United States immediately going to strike Israel with missiles?
The only people claiming that giving Aid to Palestinians is funding terrorists are Israel in the United States everybody else pretty universally agrees they giving Aid the Palestinians is not funding "terrorist" groups. This is an especially stupid example given the fact that Bibi has admitted to funding Isis groups to disrupt Hamas activities as recently as last month.
a lot of people all see the genocide as 100% Justified.
Yeah so did the Germans in World War II. That's a wonderful argument you're making. 🤦
So I'm going to predict you're not going to give me a straight answer because you and I both know what the answer actually is. But let's try this again so that you can at least try to prove that you're not just a fool who came in here without any fact to back up your opinion.
How does removing $500 million of United States tax dollars from the Israeli defense assets endorse genocide, and as a follow-up, justify murder?
I'm not commenting on all the bait. Most of that is you arguing with an imaginary person in your head. Hurting innocent people is bad. Fuck Hamas and IDF. Take from that whatever you want.
But this is funny.
Yeah so did the Germans in World War II. That's a wonderful argument you're making. 🤦
It's like you ALMOST got what I was saying. But you're so wrapped up in yourself that you missed where I was saying genocide is bad.
You're such a coward.
Couldn't answer the very simple question of how restricting funding to Israel is endorsing a genocide or justifying murder.
I was entirely right in my prediction of your response in my last comment. This is an excellent example of a red herring fallacy and a great way to try and avoid answering the above question.
A lot of people see all the genocide as 100% justified
This yours? 🙄
I never said it did. There's your answer.
This yours? 🙄
Like I said, you missed literally the only point I was making. And you're not interested in changing that.
Keep being angry at nothing.
Would you mind reading the username there?
Wow. Eptiome of honor here. I bow to your "holy" presence.
Definitely not a cowardly intellectually dishonest sophist.
Still not an answer to the question. One that you posed.
I see you're dodging your own quotation.
A lot of people see all the genocide as 100% justified
Who cares how much support there is for a genocide? why even bring that up? I'm 100% sure you won't answer this either.
Do you think all consequences of aggressors are justified?
I think imposing any consequences on the aggressors of a genocide would be a good start.
I care. I don't want any support for genocide. Because then you get genocide.
Do you think all consequences for the aggressor are justified?
The obvious and moral position is that nobody should support genocide.
Which is why I don't care who supports genocide. If you support any form of genocide your opinion automatically is worthless to me.
Who cares who supports genocide? Those people can be instantly discounted.
Your question is inane. Answer my previous question if you want an answer to this. You have yet to answer anything I've posited. It's an interesting technique to impose your own question and demand an answer when you have answered none.
AOC’s defense of her vote is a swing and a miss because it rests on a false distinction. She claims the amendment only cuts funding for the Iron Dome (a "defensive" system) and not for the bombs killing Palestinians, but that’s misleading.
The Iron Dome isn’t neutral; it enables Israel to continue bombing Gaza with impunity by shielding it from retaliation. It’s part of the war apparatus, not separate from it.
By opposing this amendment, AOC helped maintain the full structure of US military aid that underwrites the genocide she says she opposes. Her rationale sounds nuanced, but in practice, it protects the status quo.
And while she says she's focused on cutting offensive munitions, the reality is that the US is sending Israel billions in lethal aid right now, and this amendment was a chance to actually stop some of it. Voting against it doesn’t show strategy; it shows inconsistency and a failure to act when it counts. If you’re serious about ending genocide, like she keeps insisting she is, you take every shot you can. This was one, and she missed it.
That's generally true, but her handling is the real problem.
It's not a great position, but the real problem is she's crashing out over genuine criticism
The real problem is how she handled it. It's a weak, but coherent, position.
She's crashing out over it. She's responding to genuine criticism with accusations of being fake leftists... It's not a good look
The real reason:
theguardian.com/us-news/2024/a…
politico.com/news/2024/03/03/a…
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Pro-Israel groups spent big to oust two Squad members in primaries
But they didn't splash cash to oppose all high-profile progressives.Geoffrey Skelley (ABC News)
Only person here making pro-genocide arguments here is you.
Fucking both-siding genocidal fuck.
You're not clever and it is clear what you are doing.
Edit: to be absolutely clear: you are pro-genocide and you're trying to justify it by sounding anti-genocide. But you, personally, are bad at rheoteric, and it would be clear to a child what you are doing.
Israel should be their own nation. No money for anything to a country committing genocide.
Israel should be their own nation. No money for anything to a country committing genocide.
Agreed
Only one country is committing genocide.
Furthermore, resistance against occupiers is not only legal but enshrined in international law.
Apartheid countries, like Israel, are inherently occupiers.
I agree on the first part.
On the rest, are you saying you support the Oct 7th attacks?
Are you saying that you think violent resistance against people killing and kidnapping your children is wrong?
How would you resist people killing and kidnapping your children?
Do you condemn John Brown? Do you condemn the ANC's violent resistance against the apartheid government of South Africa?
Do you condemn the black people of Rhodesia fighting their occupiers?
Or, maybe a better example of your moral cowardice, you would have condemned the Warsaw Uprising.
EDIT: Do you you also demand people condemn Nat Turner?
You really called me pro-genocide because I said you should be careful justifying "consequences", and you're out here advocating BUTCHERING women and children.
You're literally the same as them. Bye.
I absolutely don't support it. What the IDF has done is horrific.
I've seen people justifying Hamas butchering people though, which is worrying.
I called you pro-genocide because you are trying to imply that the palestinians are morally the same as the IDF. Get it right if you're going to try and reference what I said.
You're literally justifying genocide. Bye.
But no blood on the doors or Schumer or Jefferies.
This whole shitshow is just the octillionth example of the left biting its own dick off instead of attacking the fascists stomping on it.
Do you condemn Nat Turner?
Do you condemn the Warsaw Uprising?
I notice you don't answer those questions because it might make you think uncomfortable thoughts.
Come on, if you're so moral have the courage of your convictions. Either explain how those were different or condemn them. If not, you're just a jackass with no moral code other than "this feels icky"
So, to be clear, you do condemn Nat Turners slave uprising?
You condemn ANC's necklacing people?
You condemn the terrorism that created Israel?
You condemn any violence that results in peoples liberation?
Would you find supplying Nazi Germany defensive weapons during the Holocaust to be acceptable?
Of course not, because those defensive weapons are still used to embolden their genocidal actions
Of course not. And I don't support funding Israel while they're committing genocide either.
My problem was with their rhetoric. It's literally the justification people use to support genocide. My only point was be careful how far you go with that.
So we want civilians to be killed by rocket attacks now?
That makes it clear this "pro-Palestinian" movement is not actually against civilians being killed... they actually do want civilians to die. It's just they want only civilians of a specific ethnicity to die.
Fellow Democrats Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar [as well as Democrats Al Green of Texas, Summer Lee of Pennsylvania and Republican Thomas Massie of Kentucky - PL] had supported Taylor Greene’s amendment, which eventually lost in a 422-6 vote.
So there's a willingness of the "pro-Palestinian" movement to ally itself with anti-semites of the nationalist white supremacist variety. Nationalists and "socialists" finding common ground in their hatred of Jews. Where have I heard this one before?
What do you call two people voting with an antisemite? Three antisemites.
Look at the vote count. It was never going to pass. It wouldn't have changed the outcome no matter which way they voted, so it's purely a vote indicating their principles. They could've abstained (refusing to vote with nutjob MTG but also refusing to vote for funding), but instead voted with MTG to signal that they are fine with being in alignment with white supremacist antisemitism.
But now we know their principles are to vote with an antisemite to indicate they want Israeli civilians to die.
Wait so, you would be ok with countries giving money to Hitler so they can build defense systems in Germany?
Not only this but I wouldn't trust a genocidal maniac state in not using this money for other military purposes. The best way of keeping civilians alive is ending the war not stoking it. Moreover such blocks can actually force Israel to transfer some of its offensive resources back to defensive. Not that I believe MTG's intentions were good.
Going full Godwin right out of the gate?
An odd move to make given you're aligning with a self described nationalist like MTG. I'd think given the position you're taking you'd want to downplay the references to Nazis.
I would say the same for you given that MGT's intensions are more likely to create a smear campaign than defend any particular ideology. And it is a good one I will give her that, whether or not AOC voted yes or no for this, she would be able to stoke a smear campaign one way or the other.
To be frank, I don't think she has any particular ideology that she is attached to anyway, it is more like there are some ideologies that she uses as a tool.
Thats just not true at all.
If true, then why doesnt Israel allow any actual operational bases inside Israel? There are no US warplanes flying out of Israel, and there never have been. They fly out of Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan-- which is actually a forward operating base that you pretend Israel is, and hosts British planes too. It was a big celebration when a navy ship was allowed to dock and resupply in israel in 2018, after no US warship had been allowed to dock in Israel in the previous 20 years.
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The US has a shared radar site in the negev that has 10 people staffing it, that they are just now talking about building a barracks for, and also what they call a "base within a base" AKA a desk inside a Israeli military base. Not operational. Israel is not a FOB for the US, nor is it a "giant aircraft carrier" for the US.
I see a lot of people thinking the US must be ordering israel around as a proxy. Less people believe its possible that Israel could be controlling the US.
1) It seems to me that whenever a vote for Israel comes up in US congress, it gets almost 100% of the vote, which seldom happens on any other issue.
2) the US government is run almost completely by lobbying (bribes) whereas the Israeli government is less so.
3) AIPAC sends handlers that tell us congressman how to vote. The US doesnt do that in Israel.
4) The US has baes all over the region, but arent allowed in Israel.
5) The Us historicallt yhas gained nothing by supporting Israel. No oil. No land. Just trouble. If they were a puppet, they'd be doing actions that accrue benefits to the US.
Israeli special forces abduct director of hospital in Gaza
By Alex MacDonald
Published date: 21 July 2025 14:50 BST
The Palestinian health ministry said on Monday that Hams, who also oversees field hospitals in the Gaza Strip, was on his way to visit the ICRC facility in northern Rafah when undercover Israeli soldiers opened fire, killing one person and wounding another civilian, before capturing him.The person killed was a local journalist who had been conducting an interview with al-Hams at the time of the attack.
Israeli special forces abduct director of hospital in Gaza
Israeli special forces have abducted Dr Marwan al-Hams, director of Abu Youssef al-Najjar Hospital and spokesperson for the Palestinian health ministry in Gaza, outside the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) field hospital in the souther…Alex MacDonald (Middle East Eye)
Israeli special forces abduct director of hospital in Gaza
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/33488385
By Alex MacDonald
Published date: 21 July 2025 14:50 BST
The Palestinian health ministry said on Monday that Hams, who also oversees field hospitals in the Gaza Strip, was on his way to visit the ICRC facility in northern Rafah when undercover Israeli soldiers opened fire, killing one person and wounding another civilian, before capturing him.The person killed was a local journalist who had been conducting an interview with al-Hams at the time of the attack.
Israeli special forces abduct director of hospital in Gaza
By Alex MacDonald
Published date: 21 July 2025 14:50 BSTThe Palestinian health ministry said on Monday that Hams, who also oversees field hospitals in the Gaza Strip, was on his way to visit the ICRC facility in northern Rafah when undercover Israeli soldiers opened fire, killing one person and wounding another civilian, before capturing him.The person killed was a local journalist who had been conducting an interview with al-Hams at the time of the attack.
Israeli special forces abduct director of hospital in Gaza
Israeli special forces have abducted Dr Marwan al-Hams, director of Abu Youssef al-Najjar Hospital and spokesperson for the Palestinian health ministry in Gaza, outside the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) field hospital in the souther…Alex MacDonald (Middle East Eye)
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Trump and the American People — Two Ships Crossing in the Night
Trump and the American People — Two Ships Crossing in the Night
I wanted to take a moment today to highlight something that to me, at least, is behind a certain uncanny quality to the summer of 2025. Two things…Josh Marshall (TPM - Talking Points Memo)
To capture the current drift of public opinion, Trump is near the disapproval levels Biden was at on the eve of his catastrophic debate performance in June 2024. That was after three and a half years. Trump is at six months.It’s one of my governing beliefs that you can’t transform a state like the American republic from a civic democracy to an autocracy or competitive authoritarianism if a substantial majority of the population opposes it. And there’s no question that substantial opposition is what we’re seeing.
What’s clear is that Trump has no intention of tamping down the politics of provocation and aggression toward domestic enemies. It’s against both his political goals and his temperament. It’s just as clear that these policies are driving ever greater levels not only of opposition but intense opposition.
Trump has been successful as a politician only because he is so needy, so thirsty for affection that during his campaigns he contorted his views to whatever his crowds gave the most applause to. That's why he did so well -- he could read the room, and the room was the American public. But now he isn't doing big rallies, and his audience has shrunken down to his advisors, his patsies, and whatever comes filtered through Fox News. Of course he is losing his wider audience. Their hopes, goals, wants were never really his. He was just chasing the adoration. Now he's disconnected and being used by whatever right wing "thinker" gets his attention.
Well, that and the grift. There's always the grift.
You are probably missing a lot of pieces of this puzzle as I was and still am. It is hard though, to wade through all the useless propaganda honestly.
It is 2002, Trump as we knew him was dead. A failed businessman surrounded by his crumbling empire. Only his massive past wealth keeping him floating in a sea of debt.
The producers of the Apprentice were looking for a candidate for their new show. Trump's was one of the people being considered for the position.
When they first approached him the staffers commented on how run down his office was. The carpet was rotting, the light fixtures missing bulbs. The place was a disaster. It literally stunk.
Trump himself was not much better. They spent a ton of money renovating his office area to make it bearable to film in.
They remade the man as well. They created a new persona, an acting role for the one-trick pony of a man. This became the foundation for his come back and why we have the Trump we do today.
He really is a story of why wealth is morally wrong. The worst person doing the worst things his whole life and only falling upwards because of privilege and money. Truly a representation of all that is wrong in the US.
My take:
Trump is the average Fox News viewer given power.
Emotionally Immature, intellectually lazy, lacking introspection-- Fox News is the honey pot they turn to for opinions because that is easier for them than going to therapy.
Trump is not only a Fox News viewer, he IS what is being viewed 24/7 on Fox News.
It's a narcissist's wet dream!
Not just that, but he is the mirror where all these viewers can gaze upon their morally depraved selves adoringly.
I am sure that is a big part of how they sell him. I have seen numerous interviews from Trump supporters that think they have some personal connection with the man.
This is secondary to giving him attention though. It was the media that not only breathed life back into the husk he was, but then kept the abomination of the soulless zombie businessman alive with constant support. It is not a coincidence or just media not being able to help themselves.
It was a coordinated effort that took an enormous amount of social currency to pull off. This was coordinated by a network of wealthy people who literally willed this to happen. These people are the real story. This is what we are really facing.
He really is a story of why wealth is morally wrong. The worst person doing the worst things his whole life and only falling upwards because of privilege and money
I take this as the short attention span of us voters or maybe how gullible and manipulate we are. How does some insipid reality show make you change your mind about a person’s character, ignore a long history of being the worst of humanity and a failed business man. How could you forget the brouhaha about gold plated toilets, narcissistic behavior, reneging on contracts, refusing to pay vendors, and BANKRUPTING CASINOS? And even if you forgot all that went before, how exactly did that show define him as a good businessman, good at deals? They said he was but his behavior didn’t reflect that. Similar to now: he can make all the claims he wants but how do people believe it when there’s no actual reality?
One of the many reasons I never took his candidacy seriously is how could anyone forget all that history? How does you blindly accept claims from reality TV?
Far too many people don't realize just how fake "reality TV" is. Also, many people were not really told much about Taco before his stint as game show host. The right complained that Obama was not "vetted" by the media and say nothing about how Taco was actually not really vetted.
I didn't watch the show because I don't like reality TV and I've disliked Taco since the 80s, but I remember Ivanka's comments in the Born Rich documentary in which she quotes her dad as saying a homeless man had more money than he did at the time (because he was so deep in debt).
BREAKTHROUGH: Belgian Authorities Arrest and Interrogate Israeli War Crimes Suspects Following Complaint by Hind Rajab Foundation and GLAN
Boom, Belgium — In what may become a turning point in the global pursuit of accountability, Belgian federal police have arrested and interrogated two Israeli soldiers credibly accused of war crimes in Gaza. The action came in response to an urgent legal complaint filed by the Hind Rajab Foundation and the Global Legal Action Network (GLAN) earlier this week.
The suspects were identified and arrested with a clear show of force at the Tomorrowland festival in Boom. After being taken into custody, they were formally interrogated and released. The Belgian Federal Prosecutor’s Office has confirmed that a criminal investigation is now underway.
BREAKTHROUGH: Belgian Authorities Arrest and Interrogate Israeli War Crimes Suspects Following Complaint by Hind Rajab Foundation and GLAN
Boom, Belgium — In what may become a turning point in the global pursuit of accountability, Belgian federal police have arrested and interrogated two Israeli soldiers credibly accused of war...THE HIND RAJAB FOUNDATION
BREAKTHROUGH: Belgian Authorities Arrest and Interrogate Israeli War Crimes Suspects Following Complaint by Hind Rajab Foundation and GLAN
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/33465948
Boom, Belgium — In what may become a turning point in the global pursuit of accountability, Belgian federal police have arrested and interrogated two Israeli soldiers credibly accused of war crimes in Gaza. The action came in response to an urgent legal complaint filed by the Hind Rajab Foundation and the Global Legal Action Network (GLAN) earlier this week.The suspects were identified and arrested with a clear show of force at the Tomorrowland festival in Boom. After being taken into custody, they were formally interrogated and released. The Belgian Federal Prosecutor’s Office has confirmed that a criminal investigation is now underway.
BREAKTHROUGH: Belgian Authorities Arrest and Interrogate Israeli War Crimes Suspects Following Complaint by Hind Rajab Foundation and GLAN
Boom, Belgium — In what may become a turning point in the global pursuit of accountability, Belgian federal police have arrested and interrogated two Israeli soldiers credibly accused of war crimes in Gaza. The action came in response to an urgent legal complaint filed by the Hind Rajab Foundation and the Global Legal Action Network (GLAN) earlier this week.The suspects were identified and arrested with a clear show of force at the Tomorrowland festival in Boom. After being taken into custody, they were formally interrogated and released. The Belgian Federal Prosecutor’s Office has confirmed that a criminal investigation is now underway.
BREAKTHROUGH: Belgian Authorities Arrest and Interrogate Israeli War Crimes Suspects Following Complaint by Hind Rajab Foundation and GLAN
Boom, Belgium — In what may become a turning point in the global pursuit of accountability, Belgian federal police have arrested and interrogated two Israeli soldiers credibly accused of war...THE HIND RAJAB FOUNDATION
Harvard heads to court to argue Trump administration’s $2.6bn in cuts were illegal
Ruling in the university’s favor would reverse funding freezes that became cuts as Trump administration escalated fight
Harvard University will appear in federal court Monday to make the case that the Trump administration illegally cut $2.6bn from the storied college – a pivotal moment in its battle against the federal government.
If US district Judge Allison Burroughs decides in the university’s favor, the ruling would reverse a series of funding freezes that later became outright cuts as the Trump administration escalated its fight with the nation’s oldest and wealthiest university. Such a ruling, if it stands, would revive Harvard’s sprawling scientific and medical research operation and hundreds of projects that lost federal money.
“This case involves the government’s efforts to use the withholding of federal funding as leverage to gain control of academic decisionmaking at Harvard,” the university said in its complaint. “All told, the tradeoff put to Harvard and other universities is clear: allow the government to micromanage your academic institution or jeopardize the institution’s ability to pursue medical breakthroughs, scientific discoveries, and innovative solutions.”
Harvard argues in court that Trump administration’s $2.6bn cuts are illegal
Ruling in university’s favor would reverse funding freezes that became cuts as Trump administration escalated fightAlice Speri (The Guardian)
One person shouldn't have the power to cut this much from a school's budget, even the POTUS.
Although I expect Harvard to win this case, a lot of damage has already been done.
US envoy doubles down on support for Syria's government and criticizes Israel's intervention
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/33291368
BEIRUT (AP) — A U.S. envoy doubled down on Washington’s support for Syria’s new government, saying Monday there is “no Plan B” to working with it to unite the country still reeling from years of civil war and wracked by new sectarian violence.In an exclusive interview with The Associated Press, Tom Barrack also criticized Israel’s recent intervention in Syria, calling it poorly timed and saying it complicated efforts to stabilize the region.
Barrack is ambassador to Turkey and special envoy to Syria, with a short-term mandate in Lebanon. He spoke in Beirut following more than a week of clashes in Syria’s southern province of Sweida between militias of the Druze religious minority and Sunni Muslim Bedouin tribes.
Syrian government forces intervened, ostensibly to restore order, but ended up siding with the Bedouins before withdrawing under a ceasefire agreement with Druze factions. Hundreds have been killed in the fighting, and some government fighters allegedly shot dead Druze civilians and burned and looted homes.
Neighboring Israel intervened last week on behalf of the Druze, who are seen as a loyal minority within Israel and often serve in its military. Israel launched dozens of strikes on convoys of government forces in Sweida and struck the Ministry of Defense headquarters in central Damascus.
Over the weekend, Barrack announced a ceasefire between Syria and Israel. Syrian government forces have redeployed in Sweida to halt renewed clashes between the Druze and Bedouins, and civilians from both sides were set to be evacuated Monday.
https://apnews.com/article/syria-us-barrack-israel-druze-ede9f5299c4e59a477736842adcd7de9
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'The base will turn': MTG issues warning suggesting Trump 'no longer satisfies' MAGA
'The base will turn': MTG issues warning suggesting Trump 'no longer satisfies' MAGA
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) warned that President Donald Trump's MAGA base would "turn" if he only gave them "bits of red meat" on accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.David Edwards (Raw Story)
Here's how it'll go down:
The Epstein files will be released in one way of form (likely a leak), with Trump's name in it. After a few days of weird media silence, Trump will come out as a "struggling porn addict" and will blame his actions on "crippling porn addition". He then moves onto federally ban porn in the US, which will also include "being LGBTQ+ in any way of form in public life".
Chinese investors snap up stocks on hopes for an end to price wars and overcapacity
Dead children, malnutrition and a lack of aid: Gaza's humanitarian crisis worsens
Gaza's hunger crisis has killed hundreds — including dozens of children from malnutrition
The hunger crisis in the Gaza Strip has soared “alarmingly,” health workers have warned, with a growing number of children dying of malnutrition.Chantal Da Silva (NBC News)
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in reply to TempermentalAnomaly • • •How the Lebanese Became White? | Khayrallah Center for Lebanese Diaspora Studies
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in reply to BaroqueInMind • • •How is this article about the Lebanese community gaining "white" status in the Jim Crow south relevant in order to become a naturalized citizen relevant to our discussion.
It is infinitely infuriating when some middling engagement with the material presents a loose keyword match of the topic at hand masquerading it as something relevant worthy of a "gotcha ya" moment. Citing this article in this context is a waste of everyone's time when the whole of your argument is "Lebanese people are white". It didn't matter to to racists then and it doesn't now.
... show moreHow is this article about the Lebanese community gaining "white" status in the Jim Crow south relevant in order to become a naturalized citizen relevant to our discussion.
It is infinitely infuriating when some middling engagement with the material presents a loose keyword match of the topic at hand masquerading it as something relevant worthy of a "gotcha ya" moment. Citing this article in this context is a waste of everyone's time when the whole of your argument is "Lebanese people are white". It didn't matter to to racists then and it doesn't now.
This happened in 1929. They were declared "free white men" in 1913.
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in reply to return2ozma • • •And nothing will be done to stop this tragedy.
The left are filled with toothless pacifist pussies impotently waving signs while waggling their fingers uselessly at openly aggressive fascists, and the right are filled with wealthy cartoon villains exploiting people openly with zero consequences.
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... show moreImagine the fear, waiting for food distribution, surrounded by the enemy that has been indiscriminately killing your people for years, nay decades.
Imagine the fear, waiting for food distribution, surrounded by the enemy that has been indiscriminately killing your people for years, nay decades.
Calling this humanitarian aid is "Ministry of Truth" level cynicism.
Further:
There it is again. Government-funded terror and mass murder under the guise of humanitarian aid.