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Local man would be angrier about Liberal's undemocratic floor-crossing scheme if it wasn't so funny to imagine Poilievre's face


The voters chose a minority government and expected the parties to work together, and I don’t think it’s right for Carney and his team to try to undermine that,” said Kofman. “But then I think of Poilievre’s stupid little face being told about one floor crossing after another and I giggle for about 10 minutes.”


But also:

Kofman went on to acknowledge his concerns that a Carney Liberal majority could force through a Western pipeline without any environmental or Indigenous consultation, before dissolving back into giggles picturing Pierre Poilievre’s sad face becoming a popular reaction gif used to denote “whiny pouting” across the internet.
in reply to veee

How is it undemocratic? You vote for your MP, not the party.
in reply to Lemmyoutofhere

That's not how many understand it. I'm pretty sure my extended family have no idea. Especially given they come from a country with proportional representation.
in reply to Lemmyoutofhere

To the best of my understanding, when an MP runs under the banner of a party, they're required by the party to vote in the same way as everyone else in that party unless otherwise specified (e.g. when we voted to recognize gay marriage). So when we vote on an MP, we don't care what the MP thinks because it has no bearing on how they vote in parliament. All that matters is what the party leader decides on.
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in reply to Lemmyoutofhere

I guess I don't understand the system then.

Would you happen to know what it means when they say that the party allows a free vote?

The government of Prime Minister Paul Martin supported the bill but allowed a free vote by its backbench MPs in the House of Commons.


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in reply to howrar

Usually the party leader will demand their MPs follow party lines, but there is no law/rule to do so. Breaking party lines is a quick way to ensure they will forever be a back bencher however.

It would be like throwing your boss under the bus in a group meeting. You may not get fired, but it’s career suicide.

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in reply to Lemmyoutofhere

Right, that's more or less how I understood it. I guess I didn't communicate it well.

In any case, given that the voters understand that this is what they're working with, the most sensible thing to do (and what everyone probably does) is to vote for MPs based on party position. Even if we wanted to vote based on their personal positions, there's rarely enough information to make that possible.

in reply to howrar

You are right that the way you laid it out in your previous comment is the way it is in practice. Almost all votes are whipped. Local representation (federally) is mostly in name only.
in reply to Lemmyoutofhere

The way whipped votes are standard in Canada means that in practice you are voting for a party.
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in reply to grte

That still doesn't make it undemocratic. If anything, whipped votes are the undemocratic part. Crossing the floor is a feature of our democracy, not a bug.
in reply to Lemmyoutofhere

Yeah this is the only part of the reaction that I’m not aligned with.

As you’ve mentioned the MP is elected as your representative, regardless of party, but a lot of people tend to vote with the understanding that their representative will tow the party line.

in reply to veee

I expect my MP to have a brain in their heads who can make decisions that benefit their constituents. While i appreciate what a party can do for organization, if that party stops acting in the benefit of it's constituents then fuck that party. Let's be realistic, most Canadians are too smart for the kind of indoctrination that exists to the south of us. That guy crossed the floor because pp smol doesn't have the moral character, intelligence, experience, or vision to lead his party let alone Canada.


Ubuntu Studio 24.04.LTS has been freezing and unresponsive. Issue with ProtonVPN Beta?


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in reply to Jack_Burton

If you scroll down in journalctl, it can go later in time. Also, you can check different boots by changing the b parameter, with -b 0 being the current boot, -b -1 being the previous boot, b -2 being the boot before that, etcetera.

For UFW, I'd just try unblocking the Proton ports if it says they're blocked in Proton settings. Also, check to make sure you don't have two firewalls installed; while this once again shouldn't crash the system, my PC did some very weird things when both UFW and firewalld were installed.

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Which RSS are you using?


So, I’m using Reeder Classic on iPhone. However, I can’t use it on my PC and it seems the developer has fully abandoned the Classic version and barely updates his newest ReederPlus app (which misses a lot of features I like).

So I’m searching for a new RSS. I was looking on InoReader but it’s a bit expensive (either €80/yearly or €8,99/monthly) and it seems that many old users are not fond of InoReader’s decision making.

What are you using?



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in reply to eldavi

He's not confirming conspiracy theories though, he explicitly says that that's what he's trying to avoid.
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in reply to codeinabox

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You mean the nazi regime is going to fake elections! No way! Im so shocked!