Leaked Pam Bondi memo targets 'anyone who isn’t a Trump supporter': investigator
Leaked Pam Bondi memo targets 'anyone who isn’t a Trump supporter': investigator
A leaked memo by U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi directs the Justice Department and FBI to compile a list of groups that may be labeled “domestic terrorism” organizations based on political views related to immigration, gender and U.S. policy.Amy Goodman, Democracy Now! (Raw Story)
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Honduras is still waiting for the final presidential election count, over a week after the vote
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/39998204
TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras (AP) — More than a week after Hondurans voted to elect a new president, results continue to trickle in as complaints grow about the slow process and allegations of irregularities by the three top candidates.The election to pick a new president and Congress was held on Nov. 30 and as of Monday, 88% of the ballots have been counted.
The two leading candidates are Nasry Asfura, of the conservative National Party, who has 40.21% of the votes and Salvador Nasralla, of the also conservative Liberal Party, who has 39.49%.
Rixi Moncada, who ran for the ruling social democrat LIBRE, or Liberty and Re-foundation party, is in third place with 19.28% of the votes.
https://apnews.com/article/honduras-election-delayed-vote-count-08a21448e663597b5914b96dd7050c80
How will Australia's ban on youth access to social media affect instances hosted in Australia?
Do they have any rule that says you need a minimum number of users on a site to fall under the law?
If servers of someinstance.co.au fine if they move to hosting in Finland?
It just feels like a nightmare.
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Apparently aussie.zone is asking users to DM evidence of being over 16, and the implication is that of those who don't - he'll ban/delete their accounts.
But absurdly enough, 4chan is exempt from this because all activity on there is anonymous. Not through accounts. So if the Fediverse had anonymous, non-account posting on-top of regular account-based posting then people could post anonymously happily, but anyone with an account would have to verify.
Make it make sense.
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But absurdly enough, 4chan is exempt from this because all activity on there is anonymous.
Don't think that's it, it has no footprint in Australia. Meta, &Google, X etal all do, same as piefed.social, lemmy.world etal have no Australian base. aussie.socal users can just move to another server. I'm an Aussie.
Similarly UK has tried to get 4chan, kiwifarms etc but they have no UK footprint so they just ignore them.
Similarly UK has tried to get 4chan, kiwifarms etc but they have no UK footprint so they just ignore them.
No, that's a matter of enforcement. UK is still trying to fine 4chan - but failing. Australia has just outright said the law doesn't apply to them.
theguardian.com/technology/202…
4chan unlikely to be included in Australia’s under-16s social media ban, eSafety commissioner says
Julie Inman Grant says message board will need to comply with other codes which will also include age assurance for sites hosting violent and adult contentJosh Taylor (The Guardian)
To my fellow Aussies:
The social media ban works through DNS, just change your DNS to either 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 in your router settings and browser setting. I've had no problems so far, but if that doesn't work you can always use TOR or another VPN service.
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DNS Resolvers - Privacy Guides
We recommend choosing these encrypted DNS providers to replace your ISP's default configuration.Privacy Guides
Yeah.
So far, changing my DNS has worked fine for me. I've had no requests of ID from any of the socials.
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National level site blocking, suspension on any future operations, international courts... Corporations are much easier to persecute over borders than private persons.
Why do you think American companies, even ones with no legal presence in Europe, still went along with GDPR? Same principle applies here.
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National level site blocking, suspension on any future operations, international courts
Easily circumvented by changing your DNS settings or using TOR or other VPN services
Not when the specific IP addresses of services are blocked on IPS level - which would be mandated by the state.
VPN/Tor, sure, but at that point the service itself can't confirm where the visitor is from, therefore Australian laws wouldn't apply.
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The second half of your comment is redundant.
Not knowing where the user is from is THE WHOLE POINT of TOR and VPNs in general.
It just proves that this whole internet censorship thing is doomed to fail. It just forces people to find a work-around that the government doesn't control.
But hey, if the government wants to waste time and money pissing into the wind they can go for it, let's see where that gets them.
Australia blocking 4chan in Australia doesn't compel 4chan to do anything.
Why do you think American companies, even ones with no legal presence in Europe, still went along with GDPR? Same principle applies here.
They didn't want to lose custom in Europe.
They didn't want to lose custom in Europe.
Yeah sure that's why major news sites "complied" with GDPR by blocking European visitors...
Some didn't mind the loss of service in Europe and just cut Europe off. Some did. Bottom line is that the EU wouldn't have been able to sue them because they had no assets in Europe.
What is it you imagine Australia could do to 4chan, other than blocking 4chan in Australia?
My point is that the threat of legal action was enough that major sites decided not to risk it, and blocked Europe et al.
4chan is hardly a financial/corporate entity (though they do seem to profit off traffic with ads), therefore much harder to go against, but blocking the service is still effective. It will be up to 4chan to see if they want to comply with the law and get unblocked or if they can live without Australian traffic.
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My point is that the threat of legal action was enough that major sites decided not to risk it, and blocked Europe et al.
And has 4chan done the same to UK after Ofcom sent them any messages? No, they haven't. There's no meaningful difference between being blocked by a country and blocking them yourself. If we eventually block 4chan, then we do that - but no way would the current US administration accept any attempted fines against them.
4chan is hardly a financial/corporate entity (though they do seem to profit off traffic with ads), therefore much harder to go against, but blocking the service is still effective. It will be up to 4chan to see if they want to comply with the law and get unblocked or if they can live without Australian traffic.
Right, but that's all I mean. They can't do anything to 4chan otherwise.
(And this law, comically enough - doesn't really apply to them in the first place because they don't have account signups).
On reddthat, we got this notice in an announcement back in March 2025:
Age RestrictionEffective immediately everyone on Reddthat needs to be 18 years old and futher interaction on the platform confirms you are over the age of 18 and agree with these terms.
If you are under the age of 18 you will need to delete your account under Settings
This has also been outlined in our signup form that has been updated around the start of February.
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March? Over 18?
Reddthat presumably was reacting to the Online Safety ACT UK there.
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Texas Democrat Al Green told Congress on Monday he was "moving to bring impeachment again" against President Donald Trump. He said that it will be clear why he is making the move when the articles are filed but that it was partly because Trump "doesn't respect the separation of powers" by speaking against members of the House who do not agree with him.
In a better country, Al Green would be Minority Leader and Hakeem Jeffries would be locked in a boiler room making cold calls to donors where he belongs.
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I'd rather some key people get impeached than files. Primarily because I think precisely nothing will happen if they come out.
Oh there'll be a lot of outrage, of memes, of articles and whatever but nothing much will really happen if it wasn't happening already. The files are just information after all, and we haven't done much with the info we have.
It'll just be like the Panama papers all over again.
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It's illustrative of Congress's attitude towards impeachment changing over time.
Also, probably not great that its proving to be an ineffective measure.
but impeachment is nothing.
The fundamental problem is the USA does not have serious laws to address corruption or gross incompetance in government.
Don't give up so easy. We all know how much it sucks to see this trash never face proper repercussions for their actions, but we can't just accept that or think not voting for slightly better people will do nothing.
We need to keep making incremental changes for the benefit of all of us and it takes time. Or I guess revolution, but that's not going to happen and we shouldn't count on it.
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....first, anything is impeachable. Tying your shoe wrong is impeachable.
Second, he's turning his back on the people. He's endangering people with terrible science. So yeah, when your government position is literally fucking science, then turning your back on it is a bad fucking thing.
What a total clown car the USA is.
…when I was a kid and I watched Mars Attacks! and that scene happened where gramma laughed ass off when the aliens disintegrated congress…I didn’t really get it.
Now I do.
Bunch of billionaire servants that do nothing. *Nothing good generally on purpose at least.
They're mad for the right reasons. Even if what they do about it and who they enable is ignorant and wrong. If someone ever manages to break the propaganda and reach them though. Things would get real bad real quick for the political class. They work hard to divide us for a reason.
Yeap. There’s no other way to think of politicians…with very few exceptions, if any.
Any politician who gets inside the system and isn’t raising alarm bells 24-7…who tries to reach across the aisle…who tries to horse trade…who lets their vote get whipped…is too far gone.
Crazy glued his cheeks to his teeth.
Where have we seen this before?
Hey look, a Democrat not in leadership is actually trying!
Looking forward to Jefferies to capitulate and punish the democrat for trying.
Why Are Some Democrats Backing MAGA's Anti-LGBTQ+ Censorship?
Some Democrats Are Helping the Trump Admin's Anti-LGBTQ+ Tech Agenda
This op-ed from Fight for the Future, a group organizing around the internet and political power, criticizes Democrats' backing of age verification laws and attacks on Section 230 as enabling a censorious MAGA agenda.Evan Greer and Janus Rose, Fight for the Future (Teen Vogue)
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'Scumbag': Texas candidate skewered for running as Republican after fundraising off Dems
'Scumbag': Texas candidate skewered for running as Republican after fundraising off Dems
A Texas candidate for state railroad commissioner sparked fury online after fundraising for her campaign as a Democrat — then filing to run as a Republican.Matthew Chapman (Raw Story)
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EU warns of 'cultural erasure' in China as human rights situation in the country shows 'no substantive sign of improvement'
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EU warns of 'cultural erasure' in China as human rights situation in the country shows 'no substantive sign of improvement'The EU criticizes China's "systemic and severe restrictions on the exercise of fundamental freedoms and on the right of minorities" to enjoy their own culture, and to use their own language, in private and public, including in the field of education, a statement by the EU Delegation in China reads.
"These restrictions risk leading to cultural erasure."
In spite of many engagements, "unfortunately, the overall human rights situation in China showed no substantive sign of improvement," the EU statement reads.
The situation in Xinjiang remains serious. Numerous credible reports, including the assessment issued by the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), indicate serious human rights violations that “may constitute international crimes, in particular crimes against humanity”. The EU remains deeply troubled by continuing reports of forced labour and state‑imposed labour transfer schemes involving Uyghurs both within Xinjiang and to other provinces.The human rights situation in Tibet remains equally alarming. This applies both to the Tibet Autonomous Region and to Tibetan areas of Qinghai, Sichuan and Gansu provinces, where similar patterns of restrictions have been reported. Reports continue to document far-reaching state control over religious life, intensified surveillance of monasteries, and the imposition of mandatory boarding schools, where Tibetan children are separated from their families and educated primarily in Mandarin. The closure of Tibetan-language schools, and the marginalisation of Tibetan-language instruction are deeply troubling.
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The EU continues to criticize the enforced disappearance since 1995 of Gedhun Choekyi Nyima, the 11th Panchen Lama. No credible information is provided on his whereabouts or well-being. We continue to call on China to respect and protect the rights of persons belonging to religious groups to exercise their religious freedoms without interference. The selection of religious leaders should happen without government interference and in accordance with religious norms, including for the succession of the Dalai Lama.
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The EU also remains concerned about the situation in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, where policy shifts have resulted in a marked reduction in the use of Mongolian as a language of instruction and a narrowing of space for cultural and linguistic expression. The move from Mongolian as a vehicle of instruction to its relegation as a stand‑alone subject stands in contrast with official commitments to ethnic harmony and cultural diversity, and risks accelerating the erosion of the Mongolian community’s cultural and linguistic identity....
The EU ... calls for the immediate and unconditional release of, among others, Gulshan Abbas, Anya Sengdra, Ekpar Asat, Chadrel Rinpoche, Rahile Dawut, Ding Jiaxi, Ding Yuande, Dong Yuyu, Pastor Mingri (Ezra) Jin, Gao Zhen, Gao Zhisheng, Go Sherab Gyatso, Golog Palden, He Fangmei, Huang Qi, Huang Xueqin, Hushtar Isa, Yalkun Isa, Ji Xiaolong, Li Yanhe, Peng Lifa, Qin Yongming, Ruan Xiaohuan, Tashi Dorje, Tashpolat Tiyip, Sakharov Prize winner Ilham Tohti, Wang Bingzhang, Pastor Wang Yi, Kamile Wayit, Xie Yang, Xu Na, Xu Zhiyong, Yang Hengjung, Yang Maodong, Yu Wensheng, Pastor Zhang Chunlei, Tara Zhang Yadi and Zhang Zhan, as well as EU citizen Gui Minhai whose right to consular access must be respected....
The EU underscores the essential role of freedom of expression, media independence and access to information in ensuring accountable and effective governance. In China, these freedoms remain severely constrained ... The EU strongly promotes global gender equality and women and girls full enjoyment of human rights [and] reaffirms its commitment to LGBTI persons’ full enjoyment of human rights.
"We are concerned about the rising challenges faced by China's LGBTI community, including the restriction on the freedom of association, online censorship, and intimidation of activists," the EU says.
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In Hong Kong, fundamental rights and freedoms have further eroded.
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China must also respect the principle of non-refoulement, and refrain from any extraterritorial activity, including transnational repression, that is not in line with international law.
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Statement of the EU Delegation in China on the International Human Rights Day
On the occasion of Human Rights Day 2025, the Delegation of the European Union to China reaffirms, in line with Article 21 of the Treaty on European Union, the principles that guide the Union’s external action, including “the universality and indivis…EEAS
Taliban warn Afghans who wore 'un-Islamic' Peaky Blinders outfits
Four Afghan men were ordered to report to the Taliban government's department of vice and virtue for dressing in costumes inspired by the TV series Peaky Blinders.
The friends were told that their clothing was "in conflict with Afghan and Islamic values", a Taliban spokesman told the BBC, adding the values in Peaky Blinders went against Afghan culture.
In videos posted online, the men, who have been released, can be seen posing in flat caps and three-piece suits similar to those worn in the series set in England soon after World War One.
In an interview with YouTube channel Herat-Mic uploaded at the end of November, before they were summoned, the friends said they admired the fashion displayed in the series, adding that they had received positive reactions from locals.
Taliban warn Afghans who wore 'un-Islamic' Peaky Blinders outfits
The friends were warned their clothing was "in conflict with Afghan and Islamic values", a Taliban spokesman told the BBC.Mahfouz Zubaide (BBC News)
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Trapped by old treaties with Russia, Europeans face threat of heavy financial penalties
Russia has not only threatened Europe through drone incursions and hybrid interference operations, but also in court. By exploiting old commercial treaties dating back to the end of the Cold War, Russian companies and oligarchs have multiplied arbitration proceedings to challenge the European Union's sanctions policy, posing an increasingly serious financial risk to member states.
This warning was issued by a coalition of European NGOs, including the Veblen Institute for Economic Reforms, Friends of the Earth Europe and PowerShift, in a report published on Tuesday, December 9 titled "Frozen Assets, Hot Claims: How Russian oligarchs and other investors sue over sanctions." These organizations estimate that at least $48 billion (€41 billion) has been claimed from the EU and its allies (the United Kingdom, Ukraine and Canada) in compensation for these sanctions – a minimum figure, as most of the 24 proceedings identified in the report have not disclosed the amounts sought.
After their villas, yachts and works of art were frozen following the invasion of Ukraine, several oligarchs have retaliated through legal proceedings, with varying degrees of success. In 2024, Piotr Aven and Mikhail Fridman won a case in the EU's court, which found their contribution to the war to be too indirect to justify the sanctions imposed on them.
Trapped by old treaties with Russia, Europeans face threat of heavy financial penalties
A new report warns of the significant risk facing the European Union due to arbitration proceedings launched by Russian oligarchs and companies targeted by sanctions.Maxime Vaudano (Le Monde)
Just break the treaties.
Russia is insincere with everything they agree to.
Send weapons to Ukraine instead.
Louvre thieves escaped with just 30 seconds to spare, probe reveals
The thieves who stole crown jewels from the Louvre in October evaded police with just 30 seconds to spare due to avoidable security failures at the Paris museum, a damning investigation revealed on Wednesday, December 10.
The probe, ordered by the culture ministry after the embarrassing daylight heist, revealed that only one of two security cameras was working near the site where the thieves broke in on the morning of Sunday, October 19. Agents in the security headquarters also did not have enough screens to follow the images in real-time, while a lack of coordination meant police were initially sent to the wrong place once the alarm was raised, the report unveiled at the French Sénat's Culture Committee stated.
"It highlights an overall failure of the museum, as well as its supervisory authority, to address security issues," the head of the committee, Laurent Lafon, said at the start of a hearing.
Louvre thieves escaped with just 30 seconds to spare, probe reveals
A parliamentary inquiry into the October robbery, in which over $100 million of jewellery was stolen, revealed that several known security issues, technical failures and poor coordination allowed the thieves to escape.Le Monde with AFP (Le Monde)
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EU firms in China accelerating efforts to diversify away from Chinese supply chains as global trade uncertainty deepens, report says
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European firms are accelerating efforts to diversify away from Chinese supply chains as Beijing's self-reliance drive and export controls deepen global trade uncertainty, the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China said on Wednesday....
The EU's trade imbalance with China widened to 1:4 in container terms, compared with 1:2.7 in 2019, the lobby group said in a report. Persistent deflation and the ongoing depreciation of the yuan against the euro have exacerbated European firms' trade woes.
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As a result, more than 70% of European firms in China have reviewed their supply chain strategies over the past two years, the report said ... Sectoral disparities are stark: 80% of pharmaceutical firms and 46% of machinery makers are increasing localisation, while 33% of IT and telecom firms and 25% of retailers are diversifying away from China, according to the report.
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The report said China's willingness to use its supply chain dominance to exert pressure on trade partners is being met with increasing pushback from affected countries, such as a more "offensive" China policy from the EU.
The European Commission will make proposals next month to bolster EU industry, with requirements to prioritise locally manufactured goods that would reduce its reliance on imports from China.
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Fact check: debunking Trump’s claims on immigration and affordability in Pennsylvania
The US president made baseless claims during remarks on cost of living that meandered into racism and bigotry
Donald Trump made a series of false and baseless claims in Pennsylvania on Tuesday during a speech that was billed as an address on affordability, but quickly became a meandering, campaign-style rally.
Fact check: Trump’s racist and false claims on immigration and cost of living
US president’s speech veered into baseless attacks on inflation, migrants and Ilhan Omar as he revived grievancesSam Levin (The Guardian)
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At least 22 killed in building collapse in Morocco
Fez: At least 22 killed in building collapse in Morocco
The two four-storey buildings that came down in Fez contained eight families, state media report.Aleks Phillips (BBC News)
At least 22 killed in building collapse in Morocco
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At least 22 killed in building collapse in Morocco
Fez: At least 22 killed in building collapse in Morocco
The two four-storey buildings that came down in Fez contained eight families, state media report.Aleks Phillips (BBC News)
Malaysia’s 5G speeds have nearly halved as network comes under strain, Ookla reports
Malaysia’s 5G speeds have nearly halved as network comes under strain, Ookla reports
KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 15 — Malaysia's median 5G download speed has nearly halved from its peak in late 2023, a new report from Ookla has found, a sign that the country's...Malay Mail
It seems that OpenAI is scraping [certificate transparency] logs
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lol. I minted a new TLS cert and it seems that OpenAI is scraping CT logs for what I assume are things to scrape from, based on the near instant response from ...benjojo.co.uk
EU weighs ban on veggie 'burger' and 'sausage' labels
EU delays decision over ban on veggie labels
European lawmakers failed to reach a deal on whether ordinary consumers would be confused by the idea of vegetarian sausages or vegan burgers. Meat producers say it's not that simple.Richard Connor (Deutsche Welle)
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Personally I've never considered sausage or burger necessarily a meat product. Nor steak.
However, in Norway we use a word closer to beef / beef meat for steak, and vegan beef (meat) wouldn't sound right in my head.
I do however far more important things to be outraged/worried/annoyed/what have you, about than what people want to call their tofu, should I so desire.
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They are all very prominently labeled as vegan on the front and are located in an entirely different section of the supermarket.
If those hints couldn't save you, maybe it's okay that you tried to try a vegan alternative for once before reigniting this culture war issue over other people having options and sometimes being catered to as well.
Because there's a market for it, simple as that.
There's also plenty of vegan products that don't directly emulate meat-based foods. Also some foods were always flexible in their ingredients, and expecting meat is just personal and cultural bias.
Sophie Kinsella: Author of Shopaholic series of novels dies aged 55
Sophie Kinsella: Author of Shopaholic series of novels dies aged 55
The author of the Shopaholic series of novels had been diagnosed with an aggressive form of brain cancer.Steven McIntosh (BBC News)
Yeah.
It's a fucking son of a bitch cancer. Together with Pancreastumors the ones I am most afraid of.
When I had my paramedic traning one of my instructors got one. He waited till he had the first seizure - and then drove into the next town so the ambulance crew finding him would not be "one of his own", went into the woods, called the cops to tell them what he way about to do and, well, "self removed" the whold thing with a 9mm to the head.
....little did he know I was send over that day to cover for someond who got sick.
....Nevertheless I would do the same in his situation.
Trump veers off-message in economic speech, calls affordability a ‘hoax’
And money is fake so robbing billionaires isn't a crime.
What a fucking idiot.
Trump veers off-message in economic speech, calls affordability a ‘hoax’
It was 15 minutes into his Pennsylvania address before President Donald Trump first uttered the word “affordable” — and it wasn’t long before he began railing against the concept entirely.Julianne McShane (MS NOW)
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Well, yeah. I mean. We've done this before. It was fucking taking crazy pills every goddamned day. It finally slid into a global pandemic where people passed around an invisible mystery disease that suffocated people to death horribly and we still don't know how it fucking works.
We knew it was going to be a fucking shitshow THEN, I have no idea how anyone can sit here today and be anything close to surprised or shocked. Referring here to the corporate news sewers.
Well this is a new low. Americans needing to survive is a hoax now. Great.
Worst part is pick mes and neck beard red hats believe this shit.
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Wait, but I thought that the Biden administration handed poor widdle Pedonald and the plucky little Republicans, along with all gud mericans, a TOTALLY BAD NO GOOD REKT ECONOMY that our hero Pedonald is trying to "dig out" from under?
I even heard Pedonald sending this exact same mixed message about how prices have all come down, affordability is just a "hoax", but meanwhile the economy sucks balls though because something something "Biden and the Democrat (sic) Party did this to us". It might even have been in the same appearance that he did that...
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Today, for instance, [Bush] emerged from 11 years in Washington's choicest executive mansions to confront the modern supermarket.Visiting the exhibition hall of the National Grocers Association convention here, Mr. Bush lingered at the mock-up of a checkout lane. He signed his name on an electronic pad used to detect check forgeries."If some guy came in and spelled George Bush differently, could you catch it?" the President asked. "Yes," he was told, and he shook his head in wonder.
Then he grabbed a quart of milk, a light bulb and a bag of candy and ran them over an electronic scanner. The look of wonder flickered across his face again as he saw the item and price registered on the cash register screen.
"This is for checking out?" asked Mr. Bush. "I just took a tour through the exhibits here," he told the grocers later. "Amazed by some of the technology."
Marlin Fitzwater, the White House spokesman, assured reporters that he had seen the President in a grocery store. A year or so ago. In Kennebunkport.
Some grocery stores began using electronic scanners as early as 1976, and the devices have been in general use in American supermarkets for a decade.
Though other major media outlets soon refuted the report as a mischaracterization, the popular memory of Bush's reported amazement at a supermarket scanner remains one of the most enduring American political myths.
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Remember, he explicitly said: "I don't care about you, I just want your vote." One of the few times he might have said the truth.
Well, he got their vote. Now he doesn't need them anymore.
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in reply to just_another_person • • •Neat. One of the first groups to be targeted by fascists to consolidate power are those who oppose them politically. Remember those concentration camps that were only being used for the criminal illegal immigrants? And now they're for any immigrants? And sometimes citizens? Guess who they're going to be used for next.
Americans, you stand at a crossroads. Decades from now what will you want to tell your families you were doing when the fascists came for the next group?
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in reply to Asmodeus_Krang • • •Most leftists/libs here are not gun owners. Right-wingers/GOP/fascists tend to be the gun owners.
Link to my other post farther down with receipts: alexandrite.app/lemmy.dbzer0.c…
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in reply to ORbituary • • •That's your experience, my experience a lot of folks are armed that are libs/leftist vets including me. We just aren't talking about them like "look at my big dick". The ranges I've gone have been a mix of both sides.
I think it's just by the area you live by and your neighbors from your experience.
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in reply to not_that_guy05 • • •Except it's not. Y'all are a bunch of sensitive babies about these stats. And again, that's YOUR experience. Also, the word "most" seems to have a strange meaning to you.
Group Personally own a gun Live in gun householdGOP ~45–50% ~55–60%
Indy ~25–30% ~40–45%Dem ~18–20% ~25–30%pewresearch.org/short-reads/20…
Key facts about Americans and guns
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Target the weakest links, hope no one stands up for them. They want to even out the numbers before people start to actual fight back.
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