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Scientists Use AI to Prove People Can Be Talked Out of Conspiracy Theories
From the article:
This chatbot experiment reveals that, contrary to popular belief, many conspiracy thinkers aren't 'too far gone' to reconsider their convictions and change their minds.
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Let me guess, the good news is that conspiracism can be cured but the bad news is that LLMs are able to shape human beliefs. I'll go read now and edit if I was pleasantly incorrect.
Edit: They didn't test the model's ability to inculcate new conspiracies, obviously that'd be a fun day at the office for the ethics review board. But I bet with a malign LLM it's very possible.
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A piece of paper dropped on the ground can 'shape human beliefs'. That's literally a tool used in warfare.
The news here is that conspiratorial thinking can be relieved at all.
I wasn't trying to downplay. If it can be wielded thoughtfully at scale, it could be life changing for literally millions.
The risk is that billionaires own these models, and far too often we see their interests aligned with fascism. If they choose to place a motive in this box, they now know it will have a quantifiable effect.
LLMs are able to shape human beliefs.
FUCKING THANK YOU!
I have been trying to get people to understand that the danger of AI isn't some deviantart pngtuber not getting royalties for their Darkererer Sanic OC, but the fact that AI can appear like any other person on the internet, can engage from multiple accounts, and has access to their near entire web history and can make 20 believable scenarios absolutely catered to every weakness in that person's psychology.
I'm glad your post is getting at least some traffic, but even then it's not gonna be enough.
The people that understand the danger have no power to stop it, the people with the power to stop it are profiting off of it and won't stop unless pressured.
And we can't pressure them if we are arguing art rights and shitposting constantly.
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Anything can be used to make people believe them. That's not new or a challenge.
I'm genuinely surprised that removing such beliefs is feasible at all though.
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logic isn't the only way to persuade, in fact all evidence seems to show it works on very few people.
Everyone discounts sincere emotional arguments but frankly that's all I've ever seen work on conspiracyheads.
1) the person needs to have a connection to the conspiracy theorist that is stronger than the identity valence gained by adopting these conspiracies
2) The person needs to speak emotionally and sincerely, using direct experience (cookie cutter rarely works here)
3) The person needs to genuinely desire for the improvement of the other's life
That is the only way I have ever witnessed it personally work, and it still took weeks.
The researchers think a deep understanding of a given theory is vital to tackling errant beliefs. "Canned" debunking attempts, they argue, are too broad to address "the specific evidence accepted by the believer," which means they often fail. Because large language models like GPT-4 Turbo can quickly reference web-based material related to a particular belief or piece of "evidence," they mimic an expert in that specific belief; in short, they become a more effective conversation partner and debunker than can be found at your Thanksgiving dinner table or heated Discord chat with friends.
This is great news. The emotional labor needed to talk these people down is emotionally and mentally damaging. Offloading it to software is a great use of the technology that has real value.
"Great! Billy doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job, but now the AI made him believe Bush was actually president in 1942 and that Obama was never president."
In all seriousness I think an "unbiased" AI might be one of the few ways to reach people about this stuff because any Joe schmoe is just viewed as "believing what they want you to believe!" when they try to confront any conspiracy.
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At first glance the major takeaway here might be that AI can do gish-gallop but with the truth instead of lies.
And it doesn't get exhausted with somebody's bad faith bullshit.
Is it a theory when we have proof? I mean it's only sort of an obvious to say that Psychiatry is no different from MKULTRA. It might be such to say that such IS such but what's the fucking difference?
Oh yeah. Psychiatry is private. MKULTRA is a weapon. Not that much of a difference either. They're both targeting wallets.
Simple local ai app
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It's dnf5 time!
cries in still waiting for new Anaconda installer
(for those curious, I had to use Anaconda 8 times in the last 2 days, because I was setting up (more like trying and failing to set up) a custom ublue image).
GTA Online now has BattlEye Anti-Cheat and is no more playable(for now?)
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Does installing the Proton BattlEye runtime do anything?
I don't play many games that use it, but for Ark you have to install a separate BattlEye.
Rockstar replied to someone's support request
We certainly understand that you are unable to login to GTA online through Steam Deck after the update.We would like to inform you that the primary goal of incorporating BattlEye into GTA Online is to enhance the overall gaming experience by actively scanning for cheats and exploits, and preventing players with cheats and mods from entering online. The Steam Deck players will not be able to join GTA Online but should be able to launch single-player without any issues. We appreciate your understanding in this matter.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to let us know. We are here to assist you.
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Steam Deck does not support BattlEye for GTA Online
Such a crappy way of wording it and trying to blame the steam deck when BattlEye has said that they have had linux and wine support long before the steam deck came out
Official Rockstar Community (RP) Servers will not require BattlEye to play. Community Server launchers will disable BattlEye as part of their launch processes.
What makes RP servers so special that they don't need BattlEye?
pcgamer.com/battleye-anti-chea…
BattlEye has provided native Linux and Mac support for a long time and we can announce that we will also support the upcoming Steam Deck (Proton). This will be done on an opt-in basis with game developers choosing whether they want to allow it or not.
Big ol' cascade effect. Even back in late 2015, they made an update to old-gen release consoles (PS3, 360) that prevented users from loading directly into Online upon booting up the game. If you chose that option; endless load loop and an eventual crash. From that point on until forever, you had to load singleplayer and use the shoddy interface to select an Online game for your multiplayer character.
They have a history of ruining Online with every update. I can only imagine all of the problems that accumulated since then, if it is even playable at all on those consoles.
Within 2 minutes I was killed by some dude in a flying motorcycle rocket launcher thingy.
He then proceeded to spawn-camp me and kill me every time I came back.
Haven't logged on since.
"oh no, anyway..."
GTA online was fun from 2015 until a couple years later before flying bikes and sky races. R* kept pushing updates that appeal to teenagers and absolutely ruined it.
P/f Jokin är ett brittiskkopplat färöiskt fiskeriföretag som ägnar sig åt pelagiskt fiske. Det är ett av flera pelagiska fiskeriföretag på Färöarna med utländskt minoritetsägande. Några andra är P/f Næraberg, P/f Jupiter och Sp/f Ango.
Europol ska ha knäckt en ny krypterad app. Enligt uppgifter till i media handlar det om Ghost. Ghost började användas inom kriminella gäng efter att EncroChat, SkyECC och ANOM knäckts. Det handlar om ett internationellt samarbete där bland annat Sverige ska ha varit med.
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LibreQuake aims to create a completely free Quake alternative compatible with mods
All of the Quake data files remain copyrighted and licensed under the
original terms, so you cannot redistribute data from the original game, but if
you do a true total conversion, you can create a standalone game based on
this code.
As I understand it the engine is Foss but the assets aren’t, like the doom engine vs the doom wad.
copyright used to only by 14 years plus a one time extention of another 14 years. Since quake 1 was released in 1996, it would be free for all to play with. Imagine being free to play with our own culture without all these work around.
Imagine being free. I can't honestly. Like a fish ,whose entire life was in a bowel, trying to imagine a ocean.
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Kriminell ekonomi kan beskrivas som ett ekosystem där brottsvinster genereras, hanteras och återinvesteras. I Sverige är den kriminella ekonomin beräknad att generera 100 till 150 miljarder kronor per år. Detta är nästan fyra gånger högre än Polismyndighetens budget och i samma nivå som Försvarsmaktens budget för år 2024.
Oh! I should get back to it... Togrther with the winamp skins I had downloaded from internet archive.
Plus projectM from Steam, and Spotube... I could stop using the month ly subscription for (*1) an ugly UI that barely handles drag-and-drop and is a mess to make my playlists with.
(*1) tbh, the recommendation engine got me hooked at first, but my interest has been fading away.
Is there a really complete Linux audio player? By complete I mean : shuffle, queue management and reorganization, cover support, sort by album, artist, etc... Have good tools, like eq or compressor.
One day I searched and tried many but didn't find a good one
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Is there a Windows 10 inspired launch menu?
I’m looking for a launch menu that has similar functionality as the Windows 10 Start Menu. While I don’t think Windows is the pinnacle of OS development, I did find the "Start" menu quite useful in organizing my apps by task group and importance. Specifically, I’m interested in the following features:
- The ability to resize the menu.
- The option to create my own application layout in named groups.
- The capability to create folders with applications.
- Optionally, the ability to resize various application tiles.
The Cinnamenu applet for Cinnamon comes somewhat close, but it isn't quite it. Does anyone know of an app, a DE or anything else on Linux that offers these features?
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gitlab.com/arcmenu/ArcMenu
Thanks for the suggestion. I looked at it. It is basically a simplified Windows 7 menu. Decent, but it doesn't go far enough for me.
Gnome itself is actually not bad. It has a full screen menu and arrangeable application icons and folders, but I cannot group them the way I want, let alone resize them. I wish there was something for Gnome, but I don't see it.
Perhaps I am asking for an edge case. Even Microsoft has dumbed down its Start menu in 11 to essentially a mobile launcher. Too few people seem to want that.
Gnome itself is actually not bad. It has a full screen menu and arrangeable application icons and folders, but I cannot group them the way I want, let alone resize them.
I don't think resizing is an option, but isn't it possible to drag one app's icon on top of another app's icon to create a group?
On top of that, you can install further launcher menus, which will then appear in the Show Alternatives list.
I installed Simple Menu (from Eike Hein) that has categories, favourites and search. And let's you move the icons around. But its that easy to try out different launchers.
I hope you find a good one.
Yep, ArcMenu (@ gitlab.com/arcmenu/ArcMenu which is the maintained one, last updated days ago instead of years ago) has a ton of different layouts which can mimic any version of Windows, and so much more.
When using GNOME, use the "Extensions Manager" app (from Flathub) to search for "ArcMenu" and install it, then you can configure it there in the Extensions Manager app as well. In the ArcMenu configuration, go to layouts and select the modern group to see something like the screenshot above. (The previews are generic wireframe sketches; the result will look much more high fidelity.)
old windows -> xfce/lxqt/whatever
nuwindows -> kde
macos/phones -> gnome
KDE Plasma is the way to go if you're too used to the Windows desktop. Plasma 6 is out, and from what I ses it's more like Windows 11, though Plasma is so configurable you could definitely mimic Windows 10.
Kubuntu still uses Plasma 5, which was pretty much exactly like using Windows 10 when I used it, though more configurable and smoother to use. If you want stability and compatibility in your machine, with a DE that has all its issues ironed out, Kubuntu is a good choice.
Alla stora svenska medier Israel-partiska. Rapporteringen om Israels folkmord i Gaza är extrem partisk i svensk media. Dagens ETC visar i en artikel hur mycket mer Israelvänliga medierna är genom att jämföra hur ofta israeliska dödsfall uppmärksammas jämfört med palestinska.
Energimarknadsinspektionen (Ei) har fattat två beslut som försvårar nya installationer av småskaliga solcellsanläggningar i områden där elnätet kräver förstärkning. Två villakunder som ville installera solceller inom ramen för sina befintliga huvudsäkringar har fått besked om att de måste betala 50 000 kr respektive 94 000 kr för att mata ut el på nätet
After upgrading from Ubuntu Jellyfish to Numbat, my desktop seems broken? Super key doesn't open menu, dark theme/settings doesn't work. How can I fix this?
One of the wallpapers has XFCE on it, but I didn't change my desktop environment. Also of note, when I open the terminal it doesn't look the same as it used to. Instead of the dark purple window it's a black window with white text and the window's icon is a red "X" with a dark blue "T" on it.
This is a headless machine and I connect to it through remote-desktop.
If I go through the applications menu (manually clicking, the super key does nothing and my keyboard does not have a "Fn" key) and go to settings I get the window on the left. Changing the settings in this window does nothing. Right clicking the desktop and clicking "desktop settings" I get the window on the right. This window correctly changes the wallpaper.
When I open the home folder I get Thunar.
My guess is there are two desktop environments competing or something right now? How can I fix this?
Also, weirdly, if I click my name in the upper right I can "lock screen" and "log out..." but I can't "switch user," "suspend," or "shut down."
Thank you in advance for any help.
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Your problem is that you're still using Ubuntu, after Canonical started injecting advertising and wants you to pay for it now.
Try a different distro, like anything besides Ubuntu..
My primary machine runs Pop!_OS, but I've had this machine running for years. Back when I installed Ubuntu on it, Canonical wasn't widely known as a bad guy. I've got various services running that I would need to resetup if I started from scratch.
I get where you're coming from, but to migrate everything over would take so much time. For now I would really like it if my desktop just worked correctly. When I get the time I can look into putting mint or debian on it.
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I feel your pain from a distance, I really do. ☹️
The best advice I have in the meantime is to prepare for a full backup of all packages and consider switching to a different Debian based distro..
That link seems to be filled with ways to clone drives, but if I'm migrating I wouldn't want to clone ubuntu and take it with me.
I know that your /home folder can be on a different drive/partition, but can you install files to a different location as well? Like install docker etc. in your /home folder or something and then if you switch distros just bring your /home folder with you and remake the links to the apps or something.
As user-focused as linux is (at least linux users), I wouldn't be surprised if there was some tool that made this easy. But idk.
I sorta had a feeling that wasn't necessarily the best link after I posted it. Check this for more info (I'm on my phone right now..)
Wanna hear a scary command I've used before?
sudo aptitude reinstall '~i'
Not for the faint of heart, nor meant for a fresh install, but that literally reinstalls every single registered package in Debian based distro.
Edit: If you ever dare use that command, you better make 2 pots of coffee and roll 3 joints, cuz it'll take a good while..
Have you not caught the recent news that Ubuntu is now plastering adverts on the desktop if you haven't paid for it?
Please kindly fuck off.
It looks like you are running XFCE instead of GNOME (the normal Ubuntu desktop). I'm not sure how that happened... but you an always just install another desktop.
For instance, you can try to make sure you have the ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop-minimal metapackage installed:
sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop-minimalAfter that, the login manager should allow you to select the Ubuntu session rather than the XFCE one.
Hey thanks. I had started following this guide right before I saw your post:
ubunlog.com/en/how-to-reinstal…
Essentially the same thing, except the guide uses "apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"
I used "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop" and it found stuff to install. The terminal is running now. I'll update the post once it's done. Hope this works!
Ok, so after installing ubuntu-desktop and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop the desktop hasn't changed.
Ctrl+alt+T brings up the familiar terminal now though, and I can open a nautilus window by typing "nautilus."
"echo $DESKTOP_SESSION" returns "xfce." I'm logging into this machine remotely. Since I'm remote, I don't think I can log out and still be "connected" to change the DE. Is there another way to change it?
If I connect a screen to the machine the desktop doesn't load, I had to change a setting (of which I can't remember, for a reason I can't remember - something to do with optimizing the machine for remote desktop) and now the desktop only renders on the remote session.
How are you using it remotely? VNC?
Perhaps the server config started defaulting to XFCE. Maybe what happened is entire XFCE DE got marked as a dependency, installed during update, and then when some config defaulting to XFCE thanks to this became valid, you ended up here.
If it's VNC, what do you have in ~/.vnc/xstartup? Maybe a line like xfce4-session &?
It's using RDP. I'm going to check out how RDP is configured on the machine and see if I can set it up "fresh" again. I think I went with RDP instead of VNC because I was connecting to it with a windows machine in the past and using RDP meant I could use the native windows RDP client.
Now that my primary machine is running Pop!_OS, I can check out whichever protocol has the better connection and re-set thing up with it.
You say this machine is headless. Is it at a remote location? If not, is it feasible to connect it to a monitor an keyboard for a few minutes? If so then you could logout, switch DE, and then log back in. That would hopefully set the DE you prefer as user default.
If that's not possible, then some of the solutions discussed here might be applicable.
I'll give that a try.
Back when I set this up, for some reason, to get RDP working I needed to disable the local video output and have the main desktop be funneled into the remote session. I don't remember the details of how or why. I'll figure out how to reverse it and log in locally and see what I can gather.
that terminal is xterm.
however, i suggest you log out and look for the session menu on the ligin screen. maybe it defaulted to the wrong session type.
My guess is that something related to the headless setup you had changed during upgrade - likely some package got obsoleted and removed. Then you got some default behaviour from the replacement package along with the rest of the setup.
If you don't get the help needed to resolve this here, you should also post in askubuntu.com.
That makes a lot of sense. I'll work on logging into the machine locally and see what I can figure out from there. Thanks!
EDIT: I can’t figure out how I set this up. Somehow I routed the main display to the RDP session, meaning if I plug in a monitor I get a black screen instead of the desktop. I have to figure out what file I edited to do that. None of the tutorials that I can find now use whatever method I used roughly 6 years ago.
sudo debsums -acNote that this won't catch all. There are files that packages install and don't touch afterwards. I my case for example it does catch that
/etc/gdm3/custom.conf was modified to enable autologin among other things.
Yeah I've been running this machine on ubuntu since Bionic Beaver in 2018. Cannonical wasn't such a bad guy back then, and migrating everything over to a new distro has always taken more effort than it's worth. This machine runs headless and for the most part I interact with it though portainer so it hasn't been an issue.
It's just with the occasional remote desktop login that things are broken now. Do you have a recommended distro for servers/remote desktop usage?
you're running xfce!
do you want to be running some other desktop environment?
if so, look at what kind of session your remote connection software is asking the remote machine to start.
I'm going to need to do a deep dive to figure out how I set up remote desktop on that machine. Log in locally, get it working locally correctly, then see if I can get it working over RDP correctly.
Oh man, I can't figure out what I did.
Somehow I routed the main display to the RDP session, meaning if I plug in a monitor I get a black screen instead of the desktop. I have to figure out what file I edited to do that. But searching online now none of the tutorials use whatever method I used roughly 6 years ago.
Oof. This is rough. What config files are you referring to?
There’s a bunch of dot files and directories in your home directory that are used to store configurations and presets and stuff.
It used to be that if you logged in without those files and directories then x, the display manager, the other software etc would copy over stub versions and that’s how you get “defaults”.
So when I have a hairy x session I used to delete the configuration files and directories and let it repopulate with defaults.
Nowadays I don’t do that anymore, but it used to be an issue.
E: try ctrl alt f1 or two or something and see if you get a terminal or login prompt.
Linux creator Linus Torvalds has released version 6.11 of the open-source operating system kernel. The new release, while not considered major by Torvalds, introduces several notable improvements for AMD hardware users and Arch Linux developers. ZDNet: This latest version introduces several enhancements, particularly for AMD hardware users, while offering broader system improvements and new capabilities. These include:
RDNA4 Graphics Support: The kernel now includes baseline support for AMD’s upcoming RDNA4 graphics architecture. This early integration bodes well for future AMD GPU releases, ensuring Linux users have day-one support.
Core Performance Boost: The AMD P-State driver now includes handling for AMD Core Performance Boost. This driver gives AMD Core users more granular control over turbo and boost frequency ranges.
Fast Collaborative Processor Performance Control (CPPC) Support: Overclockers who want the most power possible from their computers will be happy with this improvement to the AMD P-State driver. This feature enhances power efficiency on recent
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I gave a talk** at Berlin Fediday this weekend entitled A Bigger, Better Fediverse. I talked about what has been happening on the Fediverse in terms of growth, but also what’s been improving in terms of trust and safety. I also talk about why these two dimensions go hand-in-hand, and how we can’t have one without the other.
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** Almost. There were technical issues, so I had to record the talk and then upload it. All the better for you!
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[SOLVED] Silent Hunter 3 & Living Silent Hunter 3 Supermod - Steam proton + JSGME question
Hello guys! Recently re watched Das Boot (amazing film btw for those who haven't seen it, highly recommend) and that inspired me to install my SH3 from steam. The thing is its the first time I'm going to be playing on Linux, and I'm a bit stumped on how I can install the LSH3 supermod. The instructions for the 2022 version of LSH3 state that you simply run the provided .exe (due to this being steam proton I placed it in the game directory but this doesn't seem to be required) and run it. However I can't seem to figure out how I can use an existing proton environment to run an executable which is not the actual steam game for that environment. Can anybody help with this?
As a bonus question, because this game is quite old there are quite a few mods available for it, and the best way to activate them after downloading (on windows at least) is through JSGME. However I also cant figure out how to install that in the game directory. I have downloaded its installer but dont know how to actually run it.
I have included the link to the LSH3 2022 install manual as well as a screenshot of my game directory with files related to this post circled.
Any insight would be amazing!
SteamTinkerLaunch worked like a charm! Here's what I had to do to get it to work, for anyone who stumbles across this post:
- Install the package pacman -S steamtinkerlaunch
- Run the command steamtinkerlaunch compat add to initialise it
- Add it as the required compatibility layer in the game I wanted (SH3) then restart steam
- Launch the game - the steamtinkerlaunch window opens. Click on the MAIN MENU button before it launches the game
- From the new steamtinkerlaunch window that opens, click on "One time run". This opens yet another window
- In the field "One time command" navigate to where I had LSH3_2022 downloaded, and select it
- Click on RUN COMMAND
- Follow the install steps in the LSH3 manual
- Repeat the steps related to "One time run" again but this time select the JSGME installer, and go through that installation
- Launch JSGME again using "One time run" and enable any mods I need (although LSH3 has a 1920x1080 widescreen mod included, this doesnt seem to work at least on my setup. I had to enable the Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final mod)
- Launch the game. It should work.
So far I completed the first training mission to make sure most things work. Hopefully there aren't any issues further on down the road. Thanks for the suggestion, I had no idea this tool existed, but now I will probably be using it quite a bit!
not to be that guy . but have you tried to search for an answer?
github.com/flatpak/flatpak/iss…
first hit on "flatpak question marks".. it's due to the font you use in the terminal does not support or not fully support Unicode characters or your locale settings are not correct.
hope this helps and answers your question :)
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you're welcome :)
or since you probably are from Denmark since you mentioned Danish in your other comments:
🇩🇰 bare hyggelig, og håper du fikk løst problemet ditt 🇳🇴
Er jo en hel Lemmy instans for Danmark her, så det finnes nok flere av osw, og ja, jeg er fra Norge 🙂
Håper det ordner seg når du får installert ny font når du har tid og anledning til det 🙂
Relaxing treatment of non-notes by Mastodon
re: better handling of non-notes by Mastodon
Toward the end of a day 2 FediForum session, @pfefferle@mastodon.social, @manton@manton.org, and I sidetracked a bit and discussed once again the tendency for implementors to shift away from more suitable ActivityStreams Activities to as:Note.
Specifically, it was the demo/session by @samsethi@podcastindex.social re: TrueFans. Instead of federating out an as:Listen, they send as:Note, and it's a fairly safe bet that this is because the content cannot be richly represented in Mastodon. The same story played out with Mattias and the WordPress plugin, and myself with NodeBB.
Secondly, back in March/April and again in May, @renchap@oisaur.com mentioned that resolving this was of some interest to the Mastodon team:
We will work on improving the display of non-Note content in the next Mastodon version
To be clear, getting Mastodon to suitably process as:Article/as:Listen/as:Offer or any number of other activities is not what the ForumWG wants to accomplish. It's not up to Mastodon to adapt to the variety of content on the fediverse, but rather that its fallback handling needs to improve just enough so that its baseline rendering is acceptable to more implementors and their users.
As concise and actionable as I can make it:
- Mastodon allows a subset of HTML for
as:Note. This subset is good enough, butcontentin non-notes has all html stripped. Keep consistency here and allow the same subset of HTML. - Non-note
contentis truncated. This is no longer necessary due to the addition of the expand button. The wonderful thing is this standardization of behaviour actually simplifies Mastodon code. - Instead of appending the object URL to the status content, promote the "Open Original Page" button out of the overflow menu. It's more than okay to defer to the original site vis-a-vis presentation and allow the user a smooth exit if desired (
target="_top"would be okay too if you're worried!)
That's it.
You could even skip the third point, but even with 1 and 2 achieved this would sufficiently raise the baseline behaviour just enough that I would immediately update NodeBB to send as:Article for new topics, and I am certain @pfefferle@mastodon.social would adjust his defaults as well.
Lastly, @renchap@oisaur.com, I'm sure I can speak for everyone at FediForum when I say that it was wonderful to see representatives from Mastodon (that of course includes @andypiper@macaw.social as well) in attendance. It means a lot to me personally that you were there, and sends a signal that Mastodon continues to desire broader inter-compatibility.
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Re: Relaxing treatment of non-notes by Mastodon
@renchap@oisaur.com it's an oft-repeated refrain that the Mastodon team has a lot of their plate. With bug fixes, existing feature pipeline, and now your funded work with fediscovery, issues important to other implementors might fall by the wayside or seem less important.
The easiest thing for us to do is to impress upon you and your colleagues the importance of this for the wider fediverse. You have @pfefferle@mastodon.social from WordPress, @mike@flipboard.social from FlipBoard, and @michael@newsmast.social from NewsMast, and likely others who would be on board (@hongminhee@fosstodon.org with Fedify/Ghost?) with switching away from as:Note (I can't speak for them, but probably?)
The second easiest thing here would be to have a developer make a PR against the Mastodon repo. I'd love to also make this happen (funding and such permitting).
Ghost already represents posts as `as:Article` objects. Interestingly, they put `as:Note` into the `as:preview` property of `as:Article` objects, which I don't think Mastodon utilizes.
@trwnh @thisismissem @hongminhee @mike @michael but one thing I'd note: I think objects should always degrade gracefully into something note like, but that's not the case for activities
Imagine I used a federated last.fm like application. If Mastodon converted as:Listen to a note, my followers would probably get pissed off about the "Now listening to: X" statuses every 2 minutes
@trwnh @mike @hongminhee @thisismissem @michael we don't really have a way of knowing what activities our followers are interested. In fact in the general case that's impossible; if I started using a music suggestion system based upon my friends listening habits today, I'd like to be able to use their historic listening data that they have been broadcasting to seed it.
Alternatively, consider that I decide to make my listening history public and it hits a relay. My as:Listen activities are going to absolutely carpet bomb the federated timeline.
Aside from the Annointed Two (Create, Announce) we really need to treat most activities as ephemeral and largely unimportant
This is why we need to allow people to specifically follow certain Collections which are exposed as streams. It’s also why we need to allow people to send activities to arbitrary audiences which might not include all followers.
If a relay is set up for the purpose of aggregating Listen activities and you follow it, that’s on you. You asked for it.
Create is the exception, not the rule
@trwnh @darius I actually think this demonstrates a fundamental flaw in the email model
There are times you want to be able to do endpoint to endpoint but potentially automatic message exchanges, and email doesn't really have a mechanism for doing this
The straightforward example is my client noticing your S/MIME or GPG key is expiring and asking if there's a new one
if the actor represents me, then it is "my" inbox.
the correct solution imo is to spin up more bespoke actors. i'd really like to build upon the concept of "programmable actors", i.e., actors that are automated to act a certain way with activities they receive in their inbox. for example, a Relay could be defined as a programmable actor that Announces the object of any Create it receives, or Announces any activity it receives, or whatever. and it should be a JSON-LD type
@trwnh @mike @hongminhee @thisismissem @michael therein lies the point - activities mostly *aren't* interesting. Create and Announce are interesting not in and of themselves but because of what they carry.
Things just work much better in many ways if activities can be thought of as largely ephemeral.
If the podcast listen is important enough that it's worthwhile keeping around in my feed - say, it has commentary or something like that - then perhaps it's better framed as commentary, not as a pure listen
@trwnh @hongminhee @michael @mike @thisismissem I think our fundamental disagreement here is that I think activities shouldn't have content; it really opens many cans of worms
AS1 had a much more robust activity/object distinction and TBH I'm still kinda upset at how much AS2 muddled every type of object together into sludge
@hongminhee @michael @mike @thisismissem @trwnh if you treat activities as first class objects indeed of second class, it really opens up various cans of worms. What does it mean to like a like? Can you reply to an EmojiReact? Can you Like a Listen?
The end result of dividing things might be some semantic overlap between "small" Activities and "large" Objects, but that's probably not the worst possible argument
I do think there's an argument for a world with an activity-object merge but it's probably the world in which the Create activity never existed
You can do all of those things and they mean whatever the negotiated meaning is between the human author and the human audience.
From an AP machine view, Liking a Like just means that your Like SHOULD be added into the `likes` collection of that Like. From a human view, it simply means “I like that you liked this.”
@trwnh @mike @hongminhee @thisismissem @michael and I agree, but I think this approach if actually implemented really combinatorially explodes the protocol. An implication of this direction of thought is that your like has a likes collection, and that likes collection has it's own likes collection, ad infinitum.
You really can express absolutely everything in ActivityPub/AS2 and it's it's biggest flaw IMO. The combinatorial explosion really paralyses implementers
Re: Relaxing treatment of non-notes by Mastodon
@thisismissem@hachyderm.io @hongminhee@fosstodon.org Yeah that's something I haven't seen before. Would love to get @johnonolan@mastodon.xyz's take on it.
Blog software has the concept of "excerpts", which I think fits well with that idea.
@pfefferle@mastodon.social is right though... this is likely only because an excerpt can't be sent in via summary, otherwise it gets treated like a CW.
but that's no longer completely true. You can send a `summary` if `as:sensitive` is false :)
only if `as:sensitive` is set to true, the `summary` will be used as content warning.
Separately, Mastodon are doing great work and have a non-stop barrage of feature requests (often: demands) from all sides, and everyone is convinced theirs is the most critical (ofc).
We've chatted to them about long-form, and they're well aware :)
They don't need importance impressed upon them, but they certainly do need funding and PRs — so I think you're very much on the right track there!
@evan @Gargron I 100% agree with Julian. We are new to AP development but very excited. I was surprised by the lack of AP vocab support in Mastodon given the AP vocab has not been updated since May 2017.
Being a podcast & music app we had hoped to use the LISTEN verb. Sadly we can't as there is no support? Equally we offer blogging and event ticketing in our platform, so using ANNOUNCE, ARTICLE and BUY verbs will hopefully work???
An issue we have with redirecting the user to the original post is that it makes it very hard for the user to interact with the post. We still want to improve this (in 4.4?) but are still very short on resources.
We discussed changing the "read more" button to open a modal, and (is this a good idea?) supporting an AP attribute with an iframe suitable for embedding the content, and changing the show more button to open a modal with this iframe
Re: Relaxing treatment of non-notes by Mastodon
@renchap@oisaur.com That is a valid concern. A basic tenet of growth hacking and increasing engagement is simply to not drive the user to another site.
There's an opposing viewpoint that states that you should trust your users enough for them to return on their own, hehe.
I know there's a strong desire to keep users on-platform, which is why I suggested using target="_top" to open a new tab. I hope that's a good enough compromise, but ultimately it is up to the Mastodon team as to what works best.
Users see some content, click on it, then end up with a new UI, see a reply button, click on it, and are asked to create a new account, or to sign up (but not with their initial account). Our user testing (and many feedback) points that this is a very common issue with AP federation at the moment, even between Mastodon instances.
Not many people understand what is the federation and how to work around it
I totally agree with @renchap that it is important to keep the user on the platform of his/her choice! I like the idea of having a better "read more" UX or maybe the lightbox idea.
But to have the best possible experience and to improve the engagement, you should not force the user to leave the platform.
Otherwise it feels very much like subscribing to an RSS-Feed with only excerpts, where you always have to leave the reader for reading the whole text!
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in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •I think it's to be expected with their current decisions of chasing the AI trend and buying an advertising company, but mostly from chasing the AI trend. After all as much as the few AI-bros here would like to claim most of Firefox users are not happy about the idea of AI chatbot integration into Firefox, and especially aren't happy about AI search history integration into Firefox.
Many people think that Mozilla is trying to cut off communication with their customers or move to more corporate social media like threads or Twitter since their AI efforts are not being well received in this community. And will I definitely can say it's more complicated than that, that's not a wrong idea either, since their AI efforts are absolutely not well received by this community.
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cabbage
in reply to Hubi • • •The trolls in the comment section at least hints at the fact that creating a more positive and constructive online space proved more difficult than they imagined.
I was curious, and joined the queue for the closed beta a long time ago. Never heard back. They explored something new in closed channels, decided not to go for it, backed out. I don't really think they need to justify the decision.
Running a social media is a huge effort, and there's a lot of trolls out there actively targeting Mozilla. I imagine it's just more trouble than it's worth.
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in reply to cabbage • • •fast forward to them cutting costs on a Mastodon server that nobody uses
Threads like this make me wonder why any corporation would bother with the fediverse when this is how most people are on mastodon
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in reply to simple • • •If they were shutting down their mastodon instance but continuing their efforts to work on Social Media that is open and not just an instrument of Surveillance Capitalism, you'd have a point.
But they didn't. They shut down the instance because of some internal political struggle and their interest in becoming an ad company themselves.
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in reply to simple • • •The only redeeming feature about this is that it only looks about as awful as any other social media.
Which is not very redeeming at all, of course.
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in reply to Tamlyn • • •That's what I immediately thought - they're cutting corners to decrease dependency of googlebux, as depending on how things go those bux will go dry.
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in reply to asdfasdfasdf • • •Kagi is making some money by providing value that Google can't. I'm not sure if it would be enough for mozilla, but Kagi is making a profit now.
Sadly, both of these companies still depend on Google.
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in reply to barsoap • • •barsoap
in reply to FeelzGoodMan420 • • •So you can find things by "that spicy chicken recipe" instead of having to remember what it was actually called, or slog through a gazillion chicken recipes in your history when you realise that "spicy" was nowhere in the name. Basically stemming/thesaurus search on steroids.
It's quite likely to be opt-in as I imagine ingesting the sites you're looking at is a significant computational load. The translators are also opt-in, there's enough stuff inbuilt to detect languages but not to translate, you have to download those models first. And they're quite good btw.
Another thing I could see them offering is stuff like tl;dr bot. It's probably not for everyone, but I definitely can see that it can be a useful feature for many people.
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in reply to FeelzGoodMan420 • • •Just goes to show that Mozilla is dumb and blind like all other companies.
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in reply to Draconic NEO • • •PeriodicallyPedantic
in reply to FeelzGoodMan420 • • •Until they spun it off into its own company without any staff.
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Mozilla baut Stellen ab und fokussiert sich neu
Kommt die Wende bei Mozilla? Unter der neuen Chefin Laura Chambers startet Mozilla eine umfassende Reorganisation.
Artikelveröffentlicht am 14. Februar 2024, 7:39 Uhr, Andreas Fischer
Für Firefox könnten wieder neue Zeiten anbrechen.(Bild: KI-generiert durch Bing Image Creator
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Mozilla baut Stellen ab und fokussiert sich neu
Kommt die Wende bei Mozilla? Unter der neuen Chefin Laura Chambers startet Mozilla eine umfassende Reorganisation.
Artikelveröffentlicht am 14. Februar 2024, 7:39 Uhr, Andreas Fischer
Für Firefox könnten wieder neue Zeiten anbrechen.(Bild: KI-generiert durch Bing Image Creator/Dall-E)
Keine Woche nachdem die langjährige Mozilla-Chefin Mitchell Baker ihren Wechsel vom CEO-Posten auf den der Executive Chairwoman der Mozilla Foundation bekannt gegeben hat, baut das Unternehmen 60 weitere Stellen beziehungsweise etwa fünf Prozent der Belegschaft ab. 2020 verloren bereits 250 Mitarbeiter ihren Job bei dem Firefox-Anbieter.
Der erneute Stellenabbau betrifft laut Bloomberg vor allem Mitarbeiter in der Produktentwicklung. Man wolle sich in Zukunft mehr auf Bereiche wie Firefox Mobile konzentrieren, in denen man die größten Erfolgschancen sehe, kündigte Mozilla an.
Auf der anderen Seite werde man Investitionen in Produkte wie VPN, Relay sowie einen Dienst reduzieren, mit dem Anwender bei Datenbrokern über sie gespeicherte Daten löschen lassen können. Darüber hinaus will Mozilla seine 3D-Umgebung Hubs abschalten und weniger Aufwand bei seiner Mastodon-Instanz mozilla.social betreiben.
KI und Firefox im Fokus
Techcrunch veröffentlichte zudem ein internes Memorandum, in dem Mozilla ankündigte, sich künftig unter anderem mehr auf "vertrauenswürdige KI für Firefox" zu konzentrieren. Dazu werde man die Teams zusammenfassen, die sich bislang mit Pocket, Inhalten und KI beschäftigt hätten.
Die Umstrukturierung erfolgt kurz nachdem das Unternehmen Laura Chambers zur Interims-CEO ernannt hatte. Die Australierin nannte als eine ihrer wichtigsten Aufgaben eigentlich die Suche nach einem neuen Chef für den Firefox-Anbieter und nicht eine Reorganisation.
Die Änderungen deuten nach Ansicht von Techcrunch aber darauf hin, dass sich Mozilla wieder stärker auf sein Kernprodukt – den Browser Firefox – konzentrieren könnte. In der Vergangenheit brachte die Organisation zahlreiche neue Produkte heraus und vernachlässigte Firefox. Wohl auch deswegen verlor der früher sehr beliebte Browser immer mehr Marktanteile.
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Firefox Maker Mozilla Is Cutting 60 Jobs After Naming New CEO
By Mark Gurman
February 13, 2024 at 7:16 PM UTC
Mozilla Corp., the maker of web browser Firefox, is cutting about 60 jobs as part of a shake-up under a new chief executive officer.
Mozilla said that the move affects about 5% of its workforce and that the cuts were primarily in the product development organization. The company informed employees of the decision on Tuesday.
“We’re scaling back investment in some product areas in order to focus on areas that we feel have the greatest chance of success,” Mozilla said in a statement. “We intend to re-prioritize resources against products like Firefox Mobile, where there’s a significant opportunity to grow and establish a better model for the industry.”
The move comes a week after the company named Laura Chambers as its CEO. She’s a former Airbnb Inc. and eBay Inc. executive who joined Mozilla’s board three years ago. Mitchell Baker, Mozilla’s longtime chief, stepped down to become the company’s executive chairman.
Mozilla last cut a significant number of jobs four years ago at the height of the Covid-19 pandemic. The not-for-profit company, which competes with Alphabet Inc.’s Google Chrome, Apple Inc.’s Safari and Microsoft Corp.’s Edge, has been grappling with sliding market share of its Firefox web browser in recent years.
In addition to Firefox, Mozilla’s products include email software Thunderbird and article-saving app Pocket.
The move comes after a string of tech layoffs, with more than 32,000 jobs lost in the industry so far this year. Several major tech companies have made cuts in recent weeks, including Amazon.com Inc. andSnap Inc.
— With assistance from Jackie Davalos
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in reply to Tamlyn • • •They have/had stuff for VR?
Edit: Oh yeah. They had a VR browser but it's a full environment one which is far less handy than simply using the android version of Firefox on the overlay screen in whatever environment I am already in.
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in reply to ItsComplicated • • •Political. Steve Teixeira was the one championing the focus on social. Apparently the faction that wanted him out won, and now they are getting rid of his babies, too.
Details of the lawsuit.
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in reply to rglullis • • •I would suggest not trusting anything Lunduke says, the man went off the deep end and became a harmful conspiracy theorist.
For example, he believes there is a trans advocacy group going around and destroying open source projects from within. That's right, only the Lunduke Journal has the truth, and the truth is that trans kids are killing open source.
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in reply to ItsComplicated • • •Probably because nobody was using it.
307 users over the last month is barely worth keeping the server running when mastodon.social is getting 249 thousand.
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in reply to Nemeski • • •The replies are a prime example of the fediverse microblogging sphere's greatest qualities.
This entire event is unfortunate, but unsurprising.
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in reply to missingno • • •I have a feeling it's so they can use the money for more AI garbage. They've been heading in that direction lately, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Honestly I'm starting to think that their "experiments" are more about chasing trends than actually trying to provide good products and services for their users.
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in reply to TimewornTraveler • • •Draconic NEO
in reply to pooperNickel • • •pooperNickel
in reply to Draconic NEO • • •Yeah he's been banned from some subs for this exact reason. He makes a big stink about it every time he is banned anywhere.
Example: lemmy.world/post/18634532
I assume they stay on LW to reach a larger audience.
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in reply to Draconic NEO • • •Draconic NEO
in reply to Deceptichum • • •Let us be clear, the reason why Linkerbaan should be banned is that he is well known for harassing people, making false claims, and being uncivil in general by claiming anyone who disagrees with him is "pro-genocide". He isn't doing the pro-Palestine movement any favors by lashing out at random people and claiming anyone who pushes back against him is pro-Israel and/or pro-genocide.
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in reply to Draconic NEO • • •That's rich af coming from the guy accusing me of being an "alt-right troll".
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in reply to pooperNickel • • •Oh fuck off you troll.
“Oh they post about Israels genocide and Bidens complacency in it, they must love Trump”
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