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Arch Linux and Valve Collaboration
We are excited to announce that Arch Linux is entering into a direct
collaboration with Valve. Valve is generously providing backing for two
critical projects that will have a huge impact on our distribution: a
build service infrastructure and a secure signing enclave. By supporting
work on a freelance basis for these topics, Valve enables us to work on
them without being limited solely by the free time of our volunteers.This opportunity allows us to address some of the biggest outstanding
challenges we have been facing for a while. The collaboration will
speed-up the progress that would otherwise take much longer for us to
achieve, and will ultimately unblock us from finally pursuing some of
our planned endeavors. We are incredibly grateful for Valve to make this
possible and for their explicit commitment to help and support Arch Linux.These projects will follow our usual development and consensus-building
workflows. [RFCs] will be created for any wide-ranging changes.
Discussions on this mailing list as well as issue, milestone and epic
planning in our GitLab will provide transparency and insight into the
work. We believe this collaboration will greatly benefit Arch Linux, and
are looking forward to share further development on this mailing list as
work progresses.
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Steam on Arch is still not supported.
Package signing is used to make sure you only get packages from sources you trust.
Every Linux distro does it and it's why if you add a new source for packages you get asked to accept a key signature.
For a long time, the keys used for signing were just files on disk, and you protected them by protecting the server they were on, but they were technically able to be stolen and used to sign malicious packages.
Some advanced in chip design and cost reductions later, we now have what is often called a "secure enclave", "trusted platform module", or a general provider for a non-exportable key.
It's a little chip that holds or manages a cryptographic key such that it can't (or is exceptionally difficult) to get the signing key off the chip or extract it, making it nearly impossible to steal the key without actually physically stealing the server, which is much easier to prevent by putting it in a room with doors, and impossible to do without detection, making a forged package vastly less likely.
There are services that exist that provide the infrastructure needed to do this, but they cost money and it takes time and money to build it into your system in a way that's reliable and doesn't lock you to a vendor if you ever need to switch for whatever reason.
So I believe this is valve picking up the bill to move archs package infrastructure security up to the top tier.
It was fine before, but that upgrade is expensive for a volunteer and donation based project and cheap for a high profile company that might legitimately be worried about their use of arch on physical hardware increasing the threat interest.
Depends on the vendor for the specifics. In general, they don't protect against an attacker who has gained persistent privileged access to the machine, only against theft.
Since the key either can't leave the tpm or is useless without it (some tpms have one key that it can never return, and will generate a new key and return it encrypted with it's internal key. This means you get protection but don't need to worry about storage on the chip), the attacker needs to remain undetected on the server as long as they want to use it, which is difficult for anyone less sophisticated than an advanced persistent threat.
The Apple system, to its credit, does a degree of user and application validation to use the keys. Generally good for security, but it makes it so if you want to share a key between users you probably won't be using the secure enclave.
Most of the trust checks end up being the tpm proving itself to the remote service that's checking the service. For example, when you use your phones biometrics to log into a website, part of that handshake is the tpm on the phone proving that it's made by a company to a spec validated by the standards to be secure in the way it's claiming.
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Reflections on 2024 Linux Display Next Hackfest
Reflections on 2024 Linux Display Next Hackfest | Wen.onweb
Hey everyone!The 2024 Linux Display Nexthackfest concludedin May, and its outcomes continue to shape the Linux Display stack. Igaliahosted this year’s event ...melissawen.github.io
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Många vänsterpartister i Göteborg utreds för brott. Ett av argumenten för att ”pausa” (en omskrivning för suspendera) Kristofer Lundberg från sitt uppdrag som ordförande i Vänsterpartiet Angered är att han är föremåla för en brottsutredning. Det är så klart ett svepskäl. För det finns ju faktiskt fler vänsterpartister i Göteborg som är föremål för brottsutredningar. Minst 4 vänsterpartister har nämligen anmälts för brott av den liberale politikern Axel Darvik.
There are sane people with this many VMs on a personal machine, right? RIGHT?
Half of these exist because I was bored once.
The Windows 10 and MacOS ones are GPU passthrough enabled and what I occasionally use if I have to use a Windows or Mac application. Windows 7 is also GPU enabled, but is more a nostalgia thing than anything.
I think my PopOS VM was originally installed for fun, but I used it along with my Arch Linux, Debian 12 and Testing (I run Testing on host, but I wanted a fresh environment and was too lazy to spin up a Docker or chroot), Ubuntu 23.10 and Fedora to test various software builds and bugs, as I don't like touching normal Ubuntu unless I must.
The Windows Server 2022 one is one I recently spun up to mess with Windows Docker Containers (I have to port an app to Windows, and was looking at that for CI). That all become moot when I found out Github's CI doesn't support Windows Docker containers despite supporting Windows runners (The organization I'm doing it for uses Github, so I have to use it).
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I have probably a couple of more Linux/BSD VMs than here (with some with GPU passthrough and one or two for ARM crossbuilding and so on) but only 2 Windows VMs - the only 2 I have legitimate licenses for.
But am I normal? Most would disagree. 😅
10, plain 11, 7, and funny enough, Server 2022 are all legit licenses (I can get a key for server through my university). Actually, I'm pretty sure the 11 one, I upgraded a Windows 7 VM to 10, then to 11.
Every other Windows version that needs it (11 LTSC, 8.1, and Vista), I just temporarily host a phony KMS server whenever it needs to be reactivated.
I apologize for talking so much about Windows on a Linux sub. May Stallman break into my house and give me 10 lashes as I slumber.
I do have as many too at work.
I use one VM for each iteration of my automation software. Our factory has machines ranging from the 90s to present day, and they use different software environments to be programmed. In order to minimize the risk of data loss, we have one virtual machine with every software environment, that way if one gets corrupted, the damage is contained. It also makes them easier to export to new computers when we need to replace ours.
On the joke, define "sane". 😬
On a serious note, I think there are valid reasons to have several VMs other than "I was bored". In my case, for example, I have a total of 7 VMs, where 2 are miscellaneous systems to test things out, 2 are for stuff that I can't normally run on Linux, 2 are offline VMs for language dictionaries, and 1 is a BlissOS VM with Google programs in case I can't/don't want to use my phone.
I like to run a hypervisor host as just that, a hypervisor host. The host being stable is important, and also reduce attack surface by only having it as that.
An LXC per service is somewhat overkill. A docker host running on LXC could likely run all the docker containers.
Serious answer, I'm not sure why someone would run a VM to run just a container inside the VM, aside from the VM providing volumes (directories) to the VM. That said, VMs are perfectly capable of running containers, and can run multiple containers without issue. For work, our Gitlab instance has runners that are VMs that just run containers.
Fun answer, have you heard of Docker in Docker?
I have a real use case! I have a commercial server software that can run on Ubuntu or RHEL compatible distributions. My entire environment is Ubuntu. They also allow the server software to run in a docker container but the container must be running RHEL. Furthermore, their license terms require me to build the docker container myself to accept the EULA and the docker image must be built on RHEL! So I have an LXC container running Rocky Linux that gets docker installed for the purpose of building RHEL (Core is 8) imaged docker containers. It’s a total mess but it works! You must configure nested security because this doesn’t work by default.
Instructions here: ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-ru…
LXC is much more light weight than VMs, so it's not as much overhead. I've done it this way in case I need to reboot a container (or something goes wrong with an update) without disrupting the other services
Also keeps it consistent since I have some services that don't run in docker. One service per LXC
I wouldn't call that terribly efficient.
I would do 2-3 VMs with docker and maybe a network share
I have about twice this many VMs and about this many running at any given time.
I use Qubes btw
Its my only computer. I couldn't go back to anything else. Every time I double click Firefox, it opens a new VM. When I close Firefox, the VM is destroyed.
Email is in a separate VM. Email attachments also open in a disposable VM. USB devices are quarantined unless I connect them to a specific VM. Its a game changer.
Cons: I need as much ram as I used to need when I ran Windows. Watching videos is a bit choppy at full screen sometimes. And I can't play any video games.
Sounds like some pretty serious cons
Out of curiosity why do you like qubes? Having everything in a VM doesn't sound that great to me
I get that the main concern of it is security but what do you do that it demands that level of hardening? I've only ever got one virus in my life that I know of as it is and that was on windows
Lol wut? Those pros far outweigh the cons. But I guess I don't care about video games?
I have money on my computer, and I have a company that has customer info. That's enough of a reason for me to want to protect my shit better than running one big, super-vulnerable system
Fwiw I had to tinker a bit to get good video playback, Fedora was always choppy for me for some reason but debian is typically smooth with hw accel disabled.
As for the gaming, depending on your setup (I have a desktop and T480 I keep in sync) you can absolutely run two video cards and do PCI passthrough on one to a gaming VM. I have mine set up with a dedicated NIC and USB card and just use a KVM to swap between Qubes and Windows (for now) and it's worked really well. Had to play around a ton to get the full speed out of the GPU though and it only seemed to work in windows so hopefully get that going for a Linux hvm one day.
Absolutely agree there is no going back, I have all of my work stuff entirely hardware agnostic and a full on replica of my work desktop ready to go in a moment should the desktop die. Apart from that keeping client work isolated has been such a game changer.
I use Debian. Like I said, video is only sometimes choppy. I usually have a few vlc windows open at one time. Something I've learned is that it will use a lot of CPU even if the video is paused. To stop it, I have to manually set the video source to "none" when I pause a video and leave it in the BG.
Or just pause the whole VM. Another great Qubes feature
Something I've learned is that it will use a lot of CPU even if the video is paused.
this has been my experience with it on windows too, so it must be a core VLC thing. if it bothers you, I recommend you to try out MPV. been using it for more than a year, would never go back. If you need more than the on screen controller and key combos, there are quite a few proper GUI players being built on MPV.
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Well I do but I have a machine with 3/4 of a terabyte of memory on it.
Work scraps are great sometimes.
How are you running the MacOS VMs. The machine I have is a cheese grater so that makes it easier.
I found a prebuilt OpenCore for KVM. github.com/thenickdude/KVM-Ope…
I then changed the config.plist to make it think it was a 2019 Mac Pro.
On the cheesegrater(2019 MacPro) it’s a little convoluted. During covid times it was my single box lab since it had so much memory (768TB). So I was running nested ESXI hosts and then VMs under that. I also have a M1 MacBook Pro that I had parallels run ARM VMs (mostly MacOS, Windows, and a couple of Debian installs I think).
I have been looking at VMWare alternatives at work so for the hypervisors I’ve been playing around.
I do this stuff for a living but I also do it home for fun and profit. Ok not so much profit. Ok no profit but definitely for the fun. And because I love large electric bills.
That’s a beast of a Mac. Wake on lan is your friend. I have the same problem with my Threadripper. I wrote a script that issues a WOL command to either start/unsuspend my Ubuntu machine so I can turn it off when not in use. It’s probably $70/month difference for me. Most of my virtualization is on Linux but I’ve moved away from VM Ware because QEMU/KVM has worked so well for me. You should check out UTM on the Mac App Store and see if that solves any of your problems.
ETA: mac.getutm.app/
I did this with Qubes a year ago and haven't had any issues apart from figuring out the right flags to get the full performance, otherwise the GPU would cap around 30% under load with low CPU load.
Kind of at the mercy of what your motherboard and bios will allow, mine I had to cheese a little and disable the PCI device on boot so I get to decrypt my disk with no screen lol but it works!
I have two Windows VMs. One for work and presentations. One for games and Adobe. A bunch of random Linux VMs trying to get a FireWire card to work and a Windows 7 VM for the same reason. I’ve also for several Linux VMs trying out new versions of Fedora, Ubuntu, or Debian. A couple servers. Almost none of them are ever turned on because my real virtualized workloads run in docker or LXC! I never could get Mac VM to work but I have an AMD CPU and a MacBook so not too high priority.
Interesting enough, there is a project that I've found that runs Windows in a Docker container as a VM.
I run a Windows 10 LTSC that way to run things like Blue Iris for my security cameras, and some stuff to track my solar installation.
If I could get vbox to work* on my laptop or find the drive to learn QEMU, then I would have plenty on there. For now I'm just stuck with plenty on my desktop running win10.
*I have installed it a few times on my Debian based distro, but I swear every time I do nothing to it and it destroys itself. Works fine one day, then the next I turn on my laptop, after the only changes being that I created and ran a VM and it decided to hate me and not even boot the program. I think I'm just cursed.
- Windows ME
- Glorious Leader's Red Star OS
- Temple OS
- Don't use an operating system - sacrifice all your your time to studying the ways of the mighty Zarthadonatoxator instead. All hail Zarthadonatoxator! Zarthadonatoxator is the only true way!
I think this VM is still on Sonoma, actually. I still need to upgrade.
I can't remember exactly what I did to get an installer image, but there's a million shell scripts online for downloading macOS installer images. For booting it, I use this premade OpenCore for KVM/Proxmox. I have to check if I made other modifications (I run on an AMD CPU), but I think I mainly just had to set the serial and model - I personally used a 2019 Mac Pro.
dd if=whatchamacallit.dmg of=whatchamacallit.img. I think you can get a net install image through macrecovery, which is a utility included with OpenCore packages.
Ytterligare en present till de gängkriminella. Regeringen har beslutat att anonyma vittnen ska införas. Det har enligt all forskning ingen som helst betydelse vad det gäller brottsbekämpning. Det minskar inte brottsligheten alls men innebär en kraftig minskning av rättssäkerheten. Och det används i allmänhet inte i de länder där det finns.
Bitcoinhandel var inte olaglig. Svea hovrätt har ändrat Västmanlands tingsrätts dom gällande ett fall med bitcoinhandel. En man, Linus Dunkers, dömdes för grovt skattebrott i tingsrätten. Detta då han haft inkomster från bland annat köp och försäljning av kryptovaluta men inte tagit upp detta i sin inkomstdeklaration. Enligt hovrätten hade mannen inte något uppsåt vilket krävs för straffansvar.
This week in KDE Plasma: converging 6.2
This week in Plasma: converging 6.2
The core Plasma team remains deep in bug-fixing mode until Plasma 6.2.1, with lots of bugs fixed this week! This is the second-to-last week of development before the repos are frozen, and we’…Adventures in Linux and KDE
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MediaTek Chipsets Zero-Click Vulnerability Detected by Researchers, Can Affect Routers and Smartphones | Technology News
MediaTek Chipsets Zero-Click Vulnerability Detected by Researchers, Can Affect Routers and Smartphones
MediaTek chipsets are reportedly carrying a critical vulnerability which might make it easy for hackers to exploit remote code execution (RCS) attackers.Siddharth Suvarna (Gadgets 360)
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Original blog post. That website has too much JavaScript
My latest Linux-convincing story
Earlier this week my company bought a LIDAR from Ouster. The LIDAR is a network device: it has an ethernet interface, it gets its IP from a DHCP server and then it talks to whichever machine runs the Ouster application.
The engineers and the marketing guy in charge of evaluating it installed the software on a Windows 11 laptop and tried to make it work for 2 days, to no avail. The software simply wouldn’t connect.
So they came to me, the unofficial company “hacker”, to figure it out. And I did: the culprit, as always, was the Windows firewall. Because of course…
But here’s the twist: because it’s Windows, you need some sort of additional antivirus on top of it. Our company uses WithSecure, which is phenomenally annoying and intrusive, and constantly gets in your way when you try to do any work in Windows that isn't Word or Excel. And of course, WithSecure wouldn’t let me punch a hole in the Windows firewall, because of course…
Anyhow, after trying to work around Windows and the hateful compulsory antivirus, I called IT and told them I needed WithSecure disabled, at least temporarily. They told me to fuck off because they’re not letting an unsecured Windows machine on the intranet.
Fine. I pulled another, older Windows laptop without any antivirus, connected it to an air-gapped router, configured DHCP in the router, connected the LIDAR to the router, launched the Ouster app and… it didn't work.
After 3 hours trying to figure out what was wrong, I finally found the problem: the stupid app is an Electron app built with an older version of Electron that had a bug in node.js that prevented it from working if it couldn’t resolve some internet address.
Sigh… Electron… Because of course…
This was getting too painful and annoying with Windows. So I blew away the Windows partition, installed Linux Mint on the laptop, configured the ethernet interface as a private interface, installed the DHCP server so I could do away with the router, connected the laptop to the guest wifi so the stupid Electron app could resolve whatever it needed to resolve to work, installed the Linux version of the Ouster app, and hey-presto, it worked rightaway.
So I made an account for the guys in Mint and handed them the laptop. They played with the LIDAR for a few hours without any problem, pulled records and files out of the machine on USB sticks without any problem, viewed some Excel files in Libreoffice without any problem.
Eventually the marketing guy asked me:
“So what was the problem then?”
“Windows of course” I said. “What else?”
“Wow. That Linux stuff is really good. We tried so hard to make this work but we never could. But it worked rightaway in Linux. That’s slick!”
“Well yeah, I keep telling you guys Windows is crap. There are reasons and this is one of them.”
“Yeah I can see why you don’t like it. And that Linux desktop is really nice actually. I might give it a spin at home.”
So hey, I managed to impress a marketing guy with Linux 🙂
It shows how polished Linux has become, if ordinary computer users can be convinced this easily now. It wasn’t like that for a long long time and it feels kind of rewarding to know you bet on the right horse all along and you're vindicated at last.
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Well I'm sure they have very good reason and I'm not questioning them. I'm just talking from a user's standpoint (and I'm a very poor Windows users): whenever I try to port any of our tools to Windows, wham the damn antivirus kicks in and puts my stuff in quarantine. If I use an engineering application that talks to some device on an unusual port - and I'm talking outgoing traffic, not incoming, wham it's blocked. And unblocking it requires making a formal request to IT, that whitelists the application, until WithSecure updates itself and forgets about it, and here we go again.
It's just a complete PITA. You constantly feel like you're fighting an algorithm with stupidity built in just to get normal, honest-to-goodness work done.
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Not cheers, no. But it increased my problem-solving reputation within the company and it made Linux more appealing to key people in the company.
What's wrong with that? What's your butthurt? Are you bitter about something?
It just reeks of bullshit.
Also, I can almost guarantee your company IT department thinks you're a twat lol.
How do you sell what you did as "it just worked"? Rightaway? You lied to them. You have your coworkers on an unmanaged machine with a foreign OS on the guest WiFi with custom networking. Don't oversell a workaround as a solution.
Simplifying the problem to "Windows" seems unfair, given how many problems you found. All of them still require a long-term solution for regular operation.
It shows how polished Linux has become
Did you read what you wrote?
configured the ethernet interface as a private interface, installed the DHCP server so I could do away with the router
Yeah, you and I can do this. Most people can't. Yes, Linux has become more accessible. Most people still can't do this.
That's my point. They learned to remove cancer, and yet, can't remove them all. I learned to use GnuLinux, to make it work, regardless of distro, yet some things just fail. So, again, what's your point?
What's keeping anyone from learning anything other than the desire and effort?
You chose to bring up that ridiculous comparison only to confirm what I said. Ran out of hentai to watch or something? 🤣🤣
Sure the front desk secretary can't but the engineering team can if they use chatgpt and their brain.
The alternative is yielding to the techno priesthood and giving up on your dreams.
Your IT department sounds awful. I have never heard of "withsecure" but it sounds like a pain in the ass.
Anyway its better not to do ghost IT as that never ends well. Next time you should get the explicit approval of the IT department and document everything.
This story has nothing to do with why Linux would be any better than Windows. Sure, if you lie to people, then anything can be convincing. What if I had a firewall installed in Linux, wouldn't you have had the same issues?
This is sort of the problem I have with a lot of Linux enthusiasts, when you have a hammer, everything is a nail.
Compared to Windows and MacOS as a client desktop, Linux still severely falls behind, but it is getting better. For a server, Linux is just far superior.
You think linux doesn't have a firewall? I'm fairly certain every distribution has one installed and enabled by default.
The real reason linux worked so well in this situation was the local admin rights that came from being a rogue, unmanaged device on the network. I'm sure they could have made windows work if all the group policies weren't being enforced.
Yes, you have iptables and nftables, but it's not always enabled. So, when I said installed, I really meant enabled. I 100% agree with what you are saying though.
Unfortunately a lot of places just have shitty IT and people go rogue because of it. Some people are just impatient though as it sounds like in this case.
You also have things like apparmor and selinux. If those are enabled, you might be chasing your tail trying to figure out why something is not working. You would need to know where to look and how to fix it.
What if I had a firewall installed in Linux
A previous company of mine, required an "AntiVirus" installed on the Linux computers too.
The one the IT guy installed, ran in the background all the time, doing nobody-knows-what and and slowing down every thing and having multiple segfaults in a minute, shown in the journal.
Long after I left, I also saw an RCE vulnerability related to it. So essentially, my system would have been more secure without the app.
As much as I disagree with your last statement (I think Linux for client is on par with Windows for the vast majority of users), I strongly agree with everything else. This wasn't a Windows problem, but a "your IT is cockblocking you" problem, it could have happened in Linux too if it wasn't because he used a rogue device, he could have fixed it on Windows too doing the same.
Personally I would have gone straight to Linux because I'm out of the loop on how to do these sort of stuff on Windows. If it had to be Windows, let IT figure that out, their firewall, their anti-virus, their problem.
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That’s not how I read it at all
By supporting
work on a freelance basis for these topics, Valve enables us to work on
them without being limited solely by the free time of our volunteers.
Seems pretty explicit to me. Valve is allowing some arch linux contributors to work freelance for valve and get paid money to work on the things they would otherwise be working on for free. This allows these contributors to spend much more time working on these things because they can treat this work as the-thing-I-do-to-put-food-in-my-mouth rather than something extra they would do on the scraps of time they have on the side.
By supporting work on a freelance basis
This sounds like Valve is paying devs to work full time on arch, and thus managing to achive more than volunteers could.
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winewayland: "Use subsurfaces for unmanaged windows" merged
Interestingly, the developer is already bringing up the possibility of using Wayland by default.
Btw, after this I feel like the driver is much more usable, would it be acceptable to enable it by default? Is there any other major feature missing (given that virtual display settings is being worked on)?
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Cubedex - Open source bluetooth cube training
Cubedex is a lightweight Progressive Web App (PWA) that connects to your GAN smartcube using Bluetooth. It's designed to help you drill, time, and master algorithms like PLL and OLL, making it easier to build them into your muscle memory faster and more effectively.
📱 How to Get Started:
✅ Visit CubeDex.app in your browser
✅ Add Cubedex to your home screen for an app-like experience
✅ You can use it offline - Cubedex works perfectly without an internet connection
Cubedex has been created with ♥ by Pau Oliva Fora using gan-web-bluetooth and cubing.js.
If you enjoy using Cubedex, please consider supporting the development on Ko-fi.
GitHub - poliva/cubedex: Quickly train Rubik's cube algorithms using a smartcube.
Quickly train Rubik's cube algorithms using a smartcube. - poliva/cubedexGitHub
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Asynchronous Device Shutdown Doesn't Make It For Linux 6.12
Asynchronous Device Shutdown Doesn't Make It For Linux 6.12
Patches for wiring up async device shutdown within the Linux kernel were queued via the driver core branch for the in-development Linux 6.12 kernelwww.phoronix.com
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Flohmarkt is a Fediverse Marketplace
As the Fediverse continues to grow, people are looking to build new experiences that change what's possible on the network today.
Flohmarkt is a nascent project intended for selling personal items, and may be the first attempt of its kind here.
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I don't know how, but i kinda imagined it even though i don't speak a word of German (nor i am an English native speaker). It just... uh, sounds like it.
scientist: That's weird...
I feel like we've seen this movie before...
The newfound galaxy appears to be in the midst of a star-birth sprint, and its reservoirs of gas and dust are being pummeled with countless photons of light. It is this light the JWST has managed to see.
Neat!
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They are paraphrasing from the original news release, but poorly.
The gas cloud is being hit with so many photons of light from the stars that it is shining extremely brightly
Photons of light from the stars, as opposed to light from other things.
Generally poorly worded, but I can see what they are trying to convey. But they could have done it better.
Any headline pumping site, I always go find the original cited article. I trust the researchers who did the thing over someone who has a minor understanding and a good domain name.
Tho, I do like the articles on phys.org. They often seem to have direct quotes from the authors of the research, like they actually spoke to someone. But they are less space focused and more general science news from across the spectrum.
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You can make what ever you want in SketchUp.
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For the rest of us, a few notes on how you accomplished this would be sha-weet! I think sketch up is the most approachable 3d program, but all my "post Windows" attempts have resulted in crashes and freezes. 😥
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in reply to noughtnaut • • •- here is how I did it in order (you need a portable SketchUP2024 and latest version of visual c++ 64bit and 32bit)
- 1, install Lutris (not sure if it work with Bottles or plain wine but this is the only way I know works)
- 2, install Wine normally (sudo pacman -S wine) it should come with system 9.17 or higher
- 3, open Lutris and let it download dependencies
- 4, create a new "game" entry inside Lutris set Runner to system 9.17 and executable location to visual c++ and install it normally
- 5, if you try to run SU now (change location from visual c++ to SketchUP exe) it will crash to fix that you need to install a windows component inside winetrick (by click on the glass wine icon on the bottom>winetrick>Select the default wineprefix>install a Windows DLL or component>ucrtbase2019)
- 6, now you should be able to run it but you might see a black screen, to fix that you just... show more
- here is how I did it in order (you need a portable SketchUP2024 and latest version of visual c++ 64bit and 32bit)
- 1, install Lutris (not sure if it work with Bottles or plain wine but this is the only way I know works)
- 2, install Wine normally (sudo pacman -S wine) it should come with system 9.17 or higher
- 3, open Lutris and let it download dependencies
- 4, create a new "game" entry inside Lutris set Runner to system 9.17 and executable location to visual c++ and install it normally
- 5, if you try to run SU now (change location from visual c++ to SketchUP exe) it will crash to fix that you need to install a windows component inside winetrick (by click on the glass wine icon on the bottom>winetrick>Select the default wineprefix>install a Windows DLL or component>ucrtbase2019)
- 6, now you should be able to run it but you might see a black screen, to fix that you just have to restart the app a few time then you should be able to click on the check box and it take you to the home screen, it will crash the first time you open a template/model then you can just reopen it and can create a template just like normal
- 7, you're Golden
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in reply to voracread • • •Autodesks hell in the cloud called fusion 360.
A real* CAD which is free for hobbyists**.
*If you use sketchup long enough, you know I’m right.
**With increasing restrictions and only win/mac compatibility.
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in reply to ColdWater • • •With the help of AI and patience from God I was able to get this working. It does work, although I wouldn't say it's running flawlessly.
Having said that, these are hands down the worst instructions I've ever read. I would not have been able to do this without asking multiple AI what the hell you were talking about.
Nevertheless, thank you. I'm glad I found this.