Last Week in Fediverse – ep 86
This week's news:
- Threads degrades their activitypub integration, delaying posts by 15 minutes before they appear in the rest of the fediverse
- Website League is a new ActivityPub-based Island network, outside of the rest of the fediverse
- Ghost discusses their beta plans and pricing.
Last Week in Fediverse – ep 86Threads degrades their fediverse integration, a separate ActivityPub-based Island Network launches, and more news about Ghost and ActivityPub.
Threads delays posts for 15 minutes before federating
Threads’ latest update has degraded the value of their fediverse integration. Posts made on Threads will now always be delayed by 15 minutes before they are delivered to the rest of the fediverse, if fediverse sharing is turned on. The 15 minute delay is added for the purpose of post editing; posts on Threads can now be edited for 15 minutes after they are created. This used to be 5 minutes, both as a window for editing posts as well as the delay to be send out to the rest of the fediverse.A 15 minute delay is a long time in microblogging, and significantly impacts things like breaking news, and live-posting sports events. It also meaningfully impacts the ability to have a back-and-forth conversation with people in a comment section. The delay itself is already an issue, but things get even more problematic when taken into consideration that during live events, Threads posts with a 15 minute delay are now mixed with fediverse posts without a delay and presented as happening during the same time. This was already noticeable during yesterday’s U.S. VP debate, an event where people use microblogging for the real-time reaction. But part of the real-time reactions was actually 15 minutes delayed, while another part was not, which creates even more confusing experience. A Threads engineer says that they will want to solve this problem ‘eventually’, but that it will probably come after Threads has implemented full bi-directional interoperability.
This news is not a great start for the Social Web Foundation either, which launched last week with criticism from the wider fediverse developer community for having Meta as one of their supporting members. There is a distrust of Meta’s intention within the fediverse, and them degrading their fediverse integration is likely not helping.
Website League
The Website League is a new social networking project that has arisen out of the demise of Cohost. Cohost was a social media site for the last 2 years, that has shut down, and on October 1st the website entered read-only mode. Cohost had a dedicated user base who appreciated the community that they’ve build on the site. Website League is a new project by users of Cohost (the Cohost staff is not involved) to build a successor network in Cohost’s place.What makes Website League stand out is that it is a federated Island Network, described by Website League themselves as ‘a bunch of smallish websites that talk to each other’. This federated social network is using ActivityPub, but deliberately does not connect to the rest of the fediverse. Instead, it is an allowlist-based form of federation, where only websites/servers who agree to the Website League’s central set of rules can join.
The Website League has a big focus community organisation and governance. Even though the project is very young, and launched under time pressure of the deadline of Cohost closing, there are already multiple systems in place with an active Loomio for Stewardship, a wiki and more. The Website League provides a different vision of what a federated social network build on top of ActivityPub can look like, and I’m very curious to see where the project will go.
Ghost and Fedify
Ghost published their latest update on their work on adding ActivityPub, with more information about their upcoming beta. Ghost is slowly starting their beta process soon, making it clear that this is indeed a testing program, and data loss should be expected for people who are participating. They also said more about the performance and scaling of Ghost and ActivityPub. Sending out a newsletter over ActivityPub to 5000 subscribers turned out to need 10 servers, which indicates how resource-intensive and expensive ActivityPub can be. As a result, ActivityPub followers will count towards Ghost Pro billing, as Ghost Pro charges based on the number of members an account has.Fedify, an open-source framework that simplifies building federated server apps, is now officially in version 1.0. Ghost’s ActivityPub integration is build on top of Fedify, and Ghost is sponsoring the Fedify developer as well.
The Links
- Flipboard is connecting another 250 accounts of publishers to the fediverse.
- Bonfire is building a native app, and a series of developer diaries with it.
- The first release candidate for Mastodon 4.3 is now available.
- This week’s fediverse software updates.
- Beyond technical features: why we need to talk about the values of the Fediverse (part 1) – Elena Rossini.
- Mastodon Announces Fediverse Discovery Providers – WeDistribute.
- fedi vs web – on the distinction between social network and social web, where activitypub straddles both.
- Mallory Knodel, the Executive Director for the new Social Web Foundation, writes about the new foundation.
- The Mastodon server strangeobjects.space will shut down, and in the announcement post the admins explain the emotional cost and impact that comes with being a server admin.
That’s all for this week, thanks for reading!
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Last Week in Fediverse – ep 86
This week's news:
- Threads degrades their activitypub integration, delaying posts by 15 minutes before they appear in the rest of the fediverse
- Website League is a new ActivityPub-based Island network, outside of the rest of the fediverse
- Ghost discusses their beta plans and pricing.
Last Week in Fediverse – ep 86Threads degrades their fediverse integration, a separate ActivityPub-based Island Network launches, and more news about Ghost and ActivityPub.
Threads delays posts for 15 minutes before federating
Threads’ latest update has degraded the value of their fediverse integration. Posts made on Threads will now always be delayed by 15 minutes before they are delivered to the rest of the fediverse, if fediverse sharing is turned on. The 15 minute delay is added for the purpose of post editing; posts on Threads can now be edited for 15 minutes after they are created. This used to be 5 minutes, both as a window for editing posts as well as the delay to be send out to the rest of the fediverse.A 15 minute delay is a long time in microblogging, and significantly impacts things like breaking news, and live-posting sports events. It also meaningfully impacts the ability to have a back-and-forth conversation with people in a comment section. The delay itself is already an issue, but things get even more problematic when taken into consideration that during live events, Threads posts with a 15 minute delay are now mixed with fediverse posts without a delay and presented as happening during the same time. This was already noticeable during yesterday’s U.S. VP debate, an event where people use microblogging for the real-time reaction. But part of the real-time reactions was actually 15 minutes delayed, while another part was not, which creates even more confusing experience. A Threads engineer says that they will want to solve this problem ‘eventually’, but that it will probably come after Threads has implemented full bi-directional interoperability.
This news is not a great start for the Social Web Foundation either, which launched last week with criticism from the wider fediverse developer community for having Meta as one of their supporting members. There is a distrust of Meta’s intention within the fediverse, and them degrading their fediverse integration is likely not helping.
Website League
The Website League is a new social networking project that has arisen out of the demise of Cohost. Cohost was a social media site for the last 2 years, that has shut down, and on October 1st the website entered read-only mode. Cohost had a dedicated user base who appreciated the community that they’ve build on the site. Website League is a new project by users of Cohost (the Cohost staff is not involved) to build a successor network in Cohost’s place.What makes Website League stand out is that it is a federated Island Network, described by Website League themselves as ‘a bunch of smallish websites that talk to each other’. This federated social network is using ActivityPub, but deliberately does not connect to the rest of the fediverse. Instead, it is an allowlist-based form of federation, where only websites/servers who agree to the Website League’s central set of rules can join.
The Website League has a big focus community organisation and governance. Even though the project is very young, and launched under time pressure of the deadline of Cohost closing, there are already multiple systems in place with an active Loomio for Stewardship, a wiki and more. The Website League provides a different vision of what a federated social network build on top of ActivityPub can look like, and I’m very curious to see where the project will go.
Ghost and Fedify
Ghost published their latest update on their work on adding ActivityPub, with more information about their upcoming beta. Ghost is slowly starting their beta process soon, making it clear that this is indeed a testing program, and data loss should be expected for people who are participating. They also said more about the performance and scaling of Ghost and ActivityPub. Sending out a newsletter over ActivityPub to 5000 subscribers turned out to need 10 servers, which indicates how resource-intensive and expensive ActivityPub can be. As a result, ActivityPub followers will count towards Ghost Pro billing, as Ghost Pro charges based on the number of members an account has.Fedify, an open-source framework that simplifies building federated server apps, is now officially in version 1.0. Ghost’s ActivityPub integration is build on top of Fedify, and Ghost is sponsoring the Fedify developer as well.
The Links
- Flipboard is connecting another 250 accounts of publishers to the fediverse.
- Bonfire is building a native app, and a series of developer diaries with it.
- The first release candidate for Mastodon 4.3 is now available.
- This week’s fediverse software updates.
- Beyond technical features: why we need to talk about the values of the Fediverse (part 1) – Elena Rossini.
- Mastodon Announces Fediverse Discovery Providers – WeDistribute.
- fedi vs web – on the distinction between social network and social web, where activitypub straddles both.
- Mallory Knodel, the Executive Director for the new Social Web Foundation, writes about the new foundation.
- The Mastodon server strangeobjects.space will shut down, and in the announcement post the admins explain the emotional cost and impact that comes with being a server admin.
That’s all for this week, thanks for reading!
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Last Week in Fediverse – ep 86
Threads degrades their fediverse integration, a separate ActivityPub-based Island Network launches, and more news about Ghost and ActivityPub.
Threads delays posts for 15 minutes before federating
Threads’ latest update has degraded the value of their fediverse integration. Posts made on Threads will now always be delayed by 15 minutes before they are delivered to the rest of the fediverse, if fediverse sharing is turned on. The 15 minute delay is added for the purpose of post editing; posts on Threads can now be edited for 15 minutes after they are created. This used to be 5 minutes, both as a window for editing posts as well as the delay to be send out to the rest of the fediverse.
A 15 minute delay is a long time in microblogging, and significantly impacts things like breaking news, and live-posting sports events. It also meaningfully impacts the ability to have a back-and-forth conversation with people in a comment section. The delay itself is already an issue, but things get even more problematic when taken into consideration that during live events, Threads posts with a 15 minute delay are now mixed with fediverse posts without a delay and presented as happening during the same time. This was already noticeable during yesterday’s U.S. VP debate, an event where people use microblogging for the real-time reaction. But part of the real-time reactions was actually 15 minutes delayed, while another part was not, which creates even more confusing experience. A Threads engineer says that they will want to solve this problem ‘eventually’, but that it will probably come after Threads has implemented full bi-directional interoperability.
This news is not a great start for the Social Web Foundation either, which launched last week with criticism from the wider fediverse developer community for having Meta as one of their supporting members. There is a distrust of Meta’s intention within the fediverse, and them degrading their fediverse integration is likely not helping.
Website League
The Website League is a new social networking project that has arisen out of the demise of Cohost. Cohost was a social media site for the last 2 years, that has shut down, and on October 1st the website entered read-only mode. Cohost had a dedicated user base who appreciated the community that they’ve build on the site. Website League is a new project by users of Cohost (the Cohost staff is not involved) to build a successor network in Cohost’s place.
What makes Website League stand out is that it is a federated Island Network, described by Website League themselves as ‘a bunch of smallish websites that talk to each other’. This federated social network is using ActivityPub, but deliberately does not connect to the rest of the fediverse. Instead, it is an allowlist-based form of federation, where only websites/servers who agree to the Website League’s central set of rules can join.
The Website League has a big focus community organisation and governance. Even though the project is very young, and launched under time pressure of the deadline of Cohost closing, there are already multiple systems in place with an active Loomio for Stewardship, a wiki and more. The Website League provides a different vision of what a federated social network build on top of ActivityPub can look like, and I’m very curious to see where the project will go.
Ghost and Fedify
Ghost published their latest update on their work on adding ActivityPub, with more information about their upcoming beta. Ghost is slowly starting their beta process soon, making it clear that this is indeed a testing program, and data loss should be expected for people who are participating. They also said more about the performance and scaling of Ghost and ActivityPub. Sending out a newsletter over ActivityPub to 5000 subscribers turned out to need 10 servers, which indicates how resource-intensive and expensive ActivityPub can be. As a result, ActivityPub followers will count towards Ghost Pro billing, as Ghost Pro charges based on the number of members an account has.
Fedify, an open-source framework that simplifies building federated server apps, is now officially in version 1.0. Ghost’s ActivityPub integration is build on top of Fedify, and Ghost is sponsoring the Fedify developer as well.
The Links
- Flipboard is connecting another 250 accounts of publishers to the fediverse.
- Bonfire is building a native app, and a series of developer diaries with it.
- The first release candidate for Mastodon 4.3 is now available.
- This week’s fediverse software updates.
- Beyond technical features: why we need to talk about the values of the Fediverse (part 1) – Elena Rossini.
- Mastodon Announces Fediverse Discovery Providers – WeDistribute.
- fedi vs web – on the distinction between social network and social web, where activitypub straddles both.
- Mallory Knodel, the Executive Director for the new Social Web Foundation, writes about the new foundation.
- The Mastodon server strangeobjects.space will shut down, and in the announcement post the admins explain the emotional cost and impact that comes with being a server admin.
That’s all for this week, thanks for reading!
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Largest brain map ever reveals fruit fly’s neurons in exquisite detail
"... Researchers are hoping to do that now that they have a new map — the most complete for any organism so far — of the brain of a single fruit fly (Drosophila melanogaster). The wiring diagram, or ‘connectome’, includes nearly 140,000 neurons and captures more than 54.5 million synapses, which are the connections between nerve cells.
... The map is described in a package of nine papers about the data published in Nature today. Its creators are part of a consortium known as FlyWire, co-led by neuroscientists Mala Murthy and Sebastian Seung at Princeton University in New Jersey."
See the associated Nature collection: The FlyWire connectome: neuronal wiring diagram of a complete fly brain, which also has links to the nine papers
All nine papers are open access!
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The team was surprised by some of the ways in which the various cells connect to one another, too. For instance, neurons that were thought to be involved in just one sensory wiring circuit, such as a visual pathway, tended to receive cues from multiple senses, including hearing and touch1. “It’s astounding how interconnected the brain is,” Murthy says.
Could this explain synesthesia better or any other similar condition(?)?
Well there is a phenomenon where your brain will make sound and sight "match up" even when it shouldn't. Like if you hear and see a basketball bouncing 75 meters away, the sound should have about a 0.25 second delay. But your brain will make you perceive the sound as happening simultaneously with the ball hitting the ground, despite the fact that you could not perceive the visual and auditory sensations simultaneously. If you go further away with the ball, eventually there is a threshold where your start perceiving the delay. The auditory and visual sense would need to be somehow linked for this phenomenon to happen I'd say.
I guess it's the brains way of matching visual and auditory cues to try to make a better picture of the world. The brain is basically saying "that sound came from the ball" and you don't even need to think consciously to know that.
So can we model this now?
Can we use this data to essentially emulate a fruit fly's behavioral patterns?
Like can we just wire this up in a software neural network, feed it some inputs, and see what happens?
Audio is inherently analogue, but you can record it into digital formats just fine.
It's tempting to say "well, that's different though" but it really isn't.
Just like with audio, you'll need high enough fidelity encoding to make it all work, otherwise you end up with garbage.
Based on my understanding of how these things work: Yes, probably no, and probably no... I think the map is just a "catalogue" of what things are, not at the point where we can do fancy models on it
This is their GitHub account, anyone knowledgeable enough about research software engineering is welcomed to give it a try
There are a few neuroscientists who are trying to decipher biological neural connections using principles from deep learning (a.k.a. AI/ML), don't think this is a popular subfield though. Andreas Tolias is the first one that comes to my mind, he and a bunch of folks from Columbia/Baylor were in a consortium when I started my PhD... not sure if that consortium is still going. His lab website (SSL cert expired bruh). They might solve the second two statements you raised... no idea when though.
Well there is no "data" per se, there's voltages and a wiring map. And this article is talking about having the complete wiring map.
The neurons deliver electrical pulses across synapses. The thickness and length of the synapse can affect the voltage or amplitude transmitted across to the next neuron. And again, if we have this fairly complete map of synapses, we may have enough information to calculate the electrical outputs of each neuron when it fires.
My understanding is that neurons work something like transistors, they receive signals and when triggered by a strong enough signal, or by enough simultaneous signals, that neuron will also fire and transmit down its synapses. With this alone you absolutely have enough structure for very complex decision making, much like a microprocessor.
I guess the question is really how accurate is this map? If we have a clear enough picture of every synaptic connection, we could simply simulate behavior in software...
[PINE64] September Update: Check Your Notes
cross-posted from: fedia.io/m/pine64@lemmy.ml/t/1…
A new community update! New hardware to announced and previous hardware to return!
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Hoping that the preliminary Wayland support makes it in.
I hope the catch is that everyone who tries to install it from github gets ransomwared.
Bonus if it also rickrolls them all the while.
Bolagsförmedlarna. Ekobrottsmyndigheten (EBM) larmade i september om att så kallade bolagsförmedlare samarbetar med och underlättar för kriminella. Detta bland annat genom att sälja så kallade historikbolag till personer med tvivelaktiga syften och kriminellt förflutet. Dessa bolag anävnds i en mängd brottsupplägg på flera olika sätt.
Mouse, keyboard and clipboard sharing between multiple devices on the same network
GitHub - deskflow/deskflow: Deskflow lets you share one mouse and keyboard between multiple computers on Windows, macOS and Linux.
Deskflow lets you share one mouse and keyboard between multiple computers on Windows, macOS and Linux. - deskflow/deskflowGitHub
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Barrier has been abandoned quite awhile ago. Its successor is supposed to be InputLeap, and although their GitHub repo is very active, they have yet to make a release.
I didn't even know that Synergy provided a "community" version of their app until very recently. I've paid for a license many years ago, so I've been using their 1.1x versions, which for better or worse, are still maintained along with the 3.x branch (which I've tried using but could never make it work, which is for the best because the fact they pivoted their UI to electron-based also left a bad taste in my mouth).
Edit: also, if I understand correctly, Synergy's latest versions on the 1.x branch borrows a lot from InputLeap.
Wayland support: Experimental support in Deskflow v1.16 (required >= GNOME 46 or KDE Plasma 6.1).
This AI Startup "Copied" an Open-Source Project and Got Half a Million Dollar Funding by Y Combinator
This AI Startup "Copied" an Open-Source Project and Got Half a Million Dollar Funding by Y Combinator
AI startups, and open-source forks with VC funding. A bad match.Ankush Das (It's FOSS News)
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I simply can't wrap my head around the thought process behind launching a clusterfuck like this. Y Combinator probably didn't do their due diligence and simply rode the fading AI Bubble, so I can at least understand how the funding might have been approved.
But actively leaving your $250,000+/year job to team up with some questionable choices to basically fork two OS projects, change the discord links and generate an illegal licence for that shit show, all while proudly stating, publicly, "dawg i chatgpt'd the license, anyone is free to use our app for free for whatever they want. if there's a problem with the license just lmk i'll change it. we busy building rn can't be bothered with legal" when they are made aware of the fact.
This is absolutely insane, sounds like someone was about to get fired and decided to use some personal relations and fresh graduates to somehow successfully cash in one last time with absolutely no regard of even the basics. Pretty wild that those guys even managed to figure out how to found a Startup. Probably asked ChatGPT for instructions there, as well.
Y Combinator probably didn’t do their due diligence
It's not the first time. They also backed an obvious scam MMO that promised the world and more, while it was nothing more than an asset flip.
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But they made half a million.
And there are literally hundreds of similar companies raking in billions in investments that magically vanish while the founders live a luxury live and move on.
The real question is: why do VCs shit so much money into obvious frauds? Are they this stupid or do they just hope to pass it on to the greater fool?
$500,000 is nothing to billionaires, or even people who make hundreds of millions a year. It's a lot to average folks like us, but to them it's the equivalent of going to the casino with money they can afford to blow.
But I do think you're right about passing it on to the greater fool. They bet it'll be the next hot product, regardless if they know it sucks or not. Then some bigger bag of money will come in and buy it up, thinking they'll be able to somehow milk a sustainable profit out of it. You'd think by now that VCs would be smarter about the boom and bust of tech startups, but alas...
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Quantum computing. It might be a real thing but it'll go through a grift phase first.
Another one will be environmental carbon capture, like pulling carbon out of the atmosphere. This one would be easier to fake but might not get traction for longer since the ideological superstructure in our society is already built up so that it is hard for a political crisis to emerge due to global climate concerns. Even though climate change is worsening, and whole cities are being destroyed by hurricanes, the debate is still pretty stabilized. However since this grift will end up being sold as a commercial solution to a political problem, the grift will probably come from a larger player like Lockheed or Boeing, which would necessitate investing in the most evil companies in existence. Still you never know, Tesla stayed afloat for years without making a working product by selling carbon credits issued by the government to other car companies, so you might be able to bootstrap this one
There are a lot of scams around AI and there's a lot of very serious science.
While generative AI gets all the attention there are many other fields of AI that you probably use on a regular basis.
The reason we don't see the rest of the AI iceberg is because it's mostly interesting when you have enormous amounts of data you want to analyze and that doesn't apply to regular people. Most of the valuable AIs (as in they've been proven to make or save a bunch of money) do stuff like inventory optimization, protein expression simulation, anomaly detection, or classification.
Slight correction. AI is not a scam.
While AI is a powerful tool, it enables people to do scams very easily.
Maybe.
There have been a number of technologies that provided similar capabilities, at least initially.
When photography, audio recording, and video recording were first invented, people didn't understand them well. That made it really easy to create believable fakes.
No modern viewer would be fooled by the Cottingley Fairies.
The wouldn't fool modern audiences either.
Video effects that stunned audiences at the time just look old fashioned now.
I expect that, over time, people will learn to recognize the low-effort scams. Eventually we'll reach an equilibrium where most people won't fall for them and there will still be skilled scammers who will target gullible people and get away with it.
They're not going to survive
Are you kidding me?
Alexander Bell stole the telephone.
Edison regularly stole inventions from Tesla among others.
Steve Jobs fucking mind raped Woz.
The American Dream is taking someone else's hard work and profiting off of it.
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So all it takes to get that sweet, sweet VC mula is a Vscode + extension fork with some hipster branding on top? Really???
Aren't these guys supposed to be tech geniuses or some shit?
Billions of dollars and they don't have a single actually knowledgeable intern who could glance at this project and say "yeah, no, I could do this too?"
Or are they're just ignoring them because AI is a glowing hot buzzword right now?
This is baffling. The entire tech sector praises VCs like they're god's gift to earth, meanwhile they're out here backing stupid shit like this, how can anyone take these people seriously?
dawg i chatgpt'd the license [...] we busy building rn can't be bothered with legal
The absolute gall of these guys. Would be inspiring if it wasn't maddening!
Aren’t these guys supposed to be tech geniuses or some shit?
Rich/famous tech people have never been "tech geniuses." They're always sociopathic business/marketing types.
It's otherwise a fairly well written article but the title is a bit misleading.
In that context, scare quotes usually mean that generative AI was trained on someone's work and produced something strikingly similar. That's not what happened here.
This is just regular copyright violations and unethical behavior. The fact that it was an AI company is mostly unrelated to their breaches. The author covers 3 major complaints and only one of them even mentions AI and the complaint isn't about what the AI did it's about what was done with the result. As far as I know the APL2.0 itself isn't copyrighted and nobody cares if you copy or alter the license itself. The problem is that you can't just remove the APL2.0 from some work it's attached to.
This is great. So all their VC-funded work will get released publicly, and we all benefit.
I don't see why people are upset that FOSS projects are getting VC funding for development..
Haha. Maybe.
I doubt the VCs will provide much followup funding if they can't control the code base but weirder things have happened.
I just quit my 270 000$ job at Coinbase to join the first YCombinator fall batch with my cofounder @not_nang.
We're building PearAI, an open source AI code editor.
Of course it is a cryptobro...
dawgt i chatgpt'd the license, anyone is free to use our app for free for whatever they want. if there's a problem with the license just lmk i'll change it. we busy building rn can't be bothered with legal
Yep, already hate that guy. Talks and behaves like an absolute dipshit.
How is it boot licking to get money from rich people to develop open source software?
Lemmy is FOSS that was funded by a grant from NLNet. Its the same outcome as this.
If anyone is licking boots, its the rich people licking the FOSS boots
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Right, exactly, which is why they launched with a FOSS license. Oh, wait--
Imagine the money going to VSCode which actually is the one getting contributions
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If you're upset, just ask them for the source. If they don't respond, sue.
In any case, we're all going to get the source and we'll all benefit from this.
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How does one "fork" a repo like this and then is proud about 100+ contributors he got?
I believe they know exactly what they are doing and just don't care.
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Which is the exact same behavior that caused the dot com bubble. VC funding was throwing money at any and every dot com business, in the hopes that it would explode and lead to profits.
All it did was massively overvalue the dot com companies, which caused a bubble when people finally realized they were overvalued and VC investors turned off the spigot of free money.
Gambling with OTHER PEOPLE'S money.
You win, you take a cut. You lose. Someone else suffers.
These people destroy everything for greed.
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Road to success (2024 AI Hype Edition):
- Clone VSCode.
- Rename it as LSCode, squash all history, and create some random commits with
--author="Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>"
. - Add a character AI that calls your code garbage.
- Profit.
No Fedora?
I thought it was popular.
I tried Manjaro a few times and it made my PC unusable every time. All sorts of little issues and even though I disabled any sleep features my screens would not wake up after I had been away for about an hour. Nothing else responded either like my PC had frozen.
Nobara is my distro of choice these days.
how output `ps aux | grep aUser` and keeping Newline ?
Hi,
by doing a
ps aux | grep UserName
The output do not keep the LF1 😡
I've found some solution online by they involve 3 or more pipe |
!
On my side, I've made this
ps -fp $(pgrep -d, -u UserName)
But still I found it not super human readable.
Is their a native way with ps
to filter users ? or to grep
it but the keep the LF ?
- linefeed en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linefeed… ↩︎
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If I do ps aux | grep root
, then the newline is preserved. So I'm not sure what exactly the problem is. There is a user option for ps, but it does not work with aux, ps --user root
. You can ps ax --user root
, but I'm not sure if this output is what you want.
Btw if you grep, then I recommend using ^user
, so it only matches the beginning of each line (the actual username), as ps aux | \grep ^root
(notice the backslash). Do you have an alias for grep? Try \grep
instead. The backslash in front of the command will use the actual command and ignore your alias.
ps aux | tr '\n' '\0' | \grep --null-data ^root | tr '\0' '\n'
what do you mean the output doesnt keep the LF? what LF?
ps also has -u and -U switches to filter by users
ps
outputs a newline after every entry. What are you trying to accomplish?
Do you have a username that contains a newline character? If so… why?!
Kinda hard to encode it in /etc/passwd
, which separates entries with newlines and fields of an entry with colons.
Of course, you can activate some alternative user database in /etc/nsswitch.conf
and then you can have your usernames with newlines in them, but at least half of the tools on your system that process usernames will take that personally…
I'm not really sure what it is you're asking for here. As another commenter said, ps
outputs a list of newline separated entries (using \n
, the standard LF character). I even ran some sanity checks to make sure it wasn't using \r\n
(CR LF) with the following:
$ ps aux | grep $USER | tr -cd "\n" | wc -m
14
$ ps aux | grep $USER | tr -cd "\r" | wc -m
0
The output of
ps aux | grep $USER
is consistent with the formatting of ps aux
. I also found that ps aux | grep $USER
was consistent with ps -fp $(pgrep -d, -u $USER)
except that ps -fp $(pgrep -d, -u $USER)
shows the header (UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD
), does not show the processes related to the command (entries of ps aux
and grep --color=auto $USER
), and does not show grep's keyword matching by highlighting all matches within a line. It is otherwise completely identical.Can you provide the output that you are getting that is unsatisfactory to you? I don't think I can otherwise understand where the issue is.
Osmakligt av Dadgostar med Kamala Harris-keps. Nooshi Dadgostar poserade på Instagram med en Kamala Harris-keps. Det är djup osmakligt med tanke på USA:s stöd för folkmordet i Gaza såväl som deras stöd till angreppet på och invasionen av Libanon.
Kvotråden för Nordatlanten innebär en minskning för makrill och kolmule (blåvitling). Internationella havsforskningsrådet (ICES) har presenterat sitt kvotråd för norsk vårlekande sill (NVG-sill), kolmule, makrill och västlig hästmakrill (taggmakrill) för 2025. Brist på internationella överenskommelser och fiske över ICES råd, dvs mer än vad som anses hållbart, är ett problem både för makrill, NVG-sill och kolmule.
Mozilla's massive lapse in judgement causes clash with uBlock Origin developer
Mozilla's massive lapse in judgement causes clash with uBlock Origin developer - gHacks Tech News
Mozilla has removed uBlock Origin Lite from Firefox's addon store after a review found issues with the extension.Martin Brinkmann (Ghacks Technology News)
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They made an error and quickly corrected. It's the addon author who threw a fit and removed the addon.
This just makes me worried to rely on uBO but more because what if the author just fucks off because someone else pissed them off.
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It would seem that the ubo lite version was made specifically to cater to chrome and manifest v3 if I'm not mistaken...
In the end the author may have just felt it was too much energy keeping a pared down chrome version on Firefox when the full version is present and working. Especially after this particular drama.
A mid range phone, that doesnt feel like a mid range phone. My previous phone was Oneplus 6. Nothing 2a feels like how Oneplus 6 felt right at the beginning, at 30% lower a price. I'm loving the face down light only notifications, and the gesture navigation. Gestures means i can use my one thumb to scroll back and forth easily.
Performance wise they should be identical, what matters is how many lists you have enabled, etc. If anything, performance-focused list management will result in more performance with ordinary uBO. Either way, gothill is a legend
Edit: I'm wrong, apparently Lite can be faster on android after all
As the article says, only when it blew up. But you're right, the author doesn't look good either.
More honestly, I enjoy a good conspiracy theory with my coffee.
As the article says, only when it blew up.
The article also seems to say that he didn't bother to disprove the mistaken findings and so Mozilla might've not even heard anything back until it blew up. The whole thing seems to have happened pretty quickly.
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Mozilla can't be trusted to host the addon, so the author is taking on the responsibility of hosting it himself. How is that his fault and not Mozilla's?
Whether Mozilla acted out of malice or incompetence is irrelevant. The report was false and the findings were incorrect, they have to be held responsible either way.
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Promises from a for-profit company don't mean shit. How many times have you seen the "we've heard you and we'll do better next time" routine, only for next time to be the same or worse? They'd promise you the pissing Sun if it meant more dollar signs.
They're empty words. No company will put out a statement saying "we fucked up, we're sorry, it's going to happen again". Until Mozilla can prove through actions that the issue is fixed, Hill is correct in distrusting them.
This is such a storm in a teacup. Someone making the manual checks at Mozilla fucked up and the situation was quickly admitted. I don't know what else to wish, other than that the failure wouldn't have happened in the first place. Sucks that it did. Now what sucks is that gorhill doesn't want to do put it back but it is what it is, luckily it was just the Lite version.
While I like a juicy conspiracy and fuck the sytsems and all, I don't think they were lying when they said that they'd put the addon back if gorhill just resubmitted it.
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How is that his fault and not Mozilla’s?
Mozilla ruptured the relationship with bad judgment. Which is important when you're deciding to invest a lot of effort into something.
This just makes me worried to rely on uBO but more because what if the author just fucks off because someone else pissed them off.
That is very concerning to me, also.
Large parts of the internet relying on one or two tiny one-man FOSS projects? (UBO and ADguard are often cited as the only two reliable-ish and safe adblockers)
If he can't be bothered with that nonsense, how secure is UBO's future? How secure is the future of adblocking?
I would bet that advertising companies are rubbing their hands now and planning to ramp up pressure against these poor devs.
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I know looking at it from the outside can look like throwing a fit, but as a software dev I can assure you our professional life is a constellation of papercuts and stumbling blocks on the best days. It is a fun job in many ways but it’s by its nature extremely frustrating at times. For professionals, the inherent frustrations are just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, the rest of the iceberg being induced frustrations due to work environment causes of various nature, and a lot of devs who also develop stuff in their own free time do it to regain a sense of purpose and control.
If these kinda hiccups keep happening even outside the day job of a developer, it is absolutely understandable that the reaction is simply to cut the bullshit rather than grabbing yet another shovel to shovel away the shit you’ve been covered with this time.
Ultimately, the cost benefit analysis for keeping uBOL hosted on mozilla’s platform became skewed on the cost side and the additional expense is not one that gorhill can or wants to afford.
So, yeah, it’s not a hissy fit.
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I don’t think throwing a fit and it being a hissy fit are the same thing.
~~the things people will debate online~~
edit: I beefed it on this one. They were being normal and I misunderstood. Note to self to think before typing in the future.
Throwing a fit can mean getting angry. It being a hissy fit would mean the cause was something childish and not serious.
I'm not trying to debate it, if you look I'm the one who originally wrote the comment so I'm trying to explain what I meant.
then someone with much more talent can step up, rename the plugin, and carry on.
The challenge is choosing the next maintainer user handle.
It’s probably a coincidence that shortly after Mozilla acquires an ad company, they “accidentally” remove an ad blocker.
I mean I'm of two minds here. One, there's an epidemic of intellectually lazy, kneejerk Mozilla hate and it's time to turn the tide on that.
But on the other hand, even as a Mozilla fanboy I can see how this is a really bad look, and really indefensible. I think it's more of a huge error of judgment, and if there are other huge errors, I can begin to see a problem, but I think they have too much of a positive track record in their history to just go reaching for the tinfoil hats so quickly.
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I honestly see no purpose in
It's to circumvent ManifestV3.
I thought that was the shit Chrome was doing to block adblockers and antimalware plugins, if Firefox is doing the same thing what browser do we use now?
I don't care about all the browser wars stuff, I lost interest when it was Netscape Vs IE, I just want a browser that I can configure fully myself and have it be as safe and secure as one can make it, within reason.
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That poor dev is just getting so much shit thrown their way constantly having a short temper about it makes sense. They are fighting against an entire industry to make the internet usable for people. I hope everyone who has the means to donates to support the ~~developer~~
Edit: donate to block list maintainers thanks to lemmyvore below for the correction
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The original ublock origin is unaffected
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Whatever comes after uBO will never be like the same old thing, but we just keep on going forward and fondly remember the nice things we used to have, thanking those that worked tirelessly so we could enjoy those nice things.
The discourse about Mozilla is ridiculous, here and most everywhere. You've got people taking every perceived opportunity to attack them for things they do, things they didn't do, and things it's imagined they might've done. And then another crowd of equally determined people doggedly defending them for every idiotic blunder they make, such as this one.
Meanwhile Mozilla itself has nothing substantial to say. This is not the first time a prominent extension has mysteriously gone missing from amo with Mozilla telling us nothing about its role in the incident. @mozilla@mozilla.social needs to be in the discussion giving us a real explanation of what happened, why they got it wrong, and what they're doing to improve things.
The best I can think of is that the explainer language used to justify the extension's removal was just boilerplate language that got copy+pasted here because someone clicked the wrong button. But even that makes a mockery of the review process.
I think "oops clicked wrong button" would be slightly more defensible, but not by much. If they truly rejected the extension for content in it that it does not have, it's hard to see how a human could make that mistake even accidentally. But maybe there's something I'm missing.
Yep, which further highlights the problem: @mozilla@mozilla.social 🔗 mozilla.social/users/mozilla/s…
We’ve made the hard decision to end our experiment with Mozilla.social and will shut down the Mastodon instance on December 17, 2024. Thank you for being part of the Mozilla.social community and providing feedback during our closed beta. You can continue to use Mozilla.social until December 17. Before that date, you can download your data here (mozilla.social/settings/export), and migrate your account to another instance following these instructions (support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/m…).
Mozilla Social FAQ | Firefox Help
Mozilla.social will shut down on Dec 17, 2024. Download your data and migrate before then.support.mozilla.org
There's a dozen Firefox extensions that really matter, at any given time. Mozilla has never appeared to give a particular shit about any of them. Paying special attention based on popularity wouldn't be ideal, but for fuck's sake, their passive-aggressive treatment keeps burning out the developers who fuel their ecosystem, and it would take vanishingly little effort to shield their keystone plugins.
If their active neglect had ruined both uBlock and DownThemAll - I'm not sure I'd be using Firefox anymore, and I've been using Firefox since before it was called Firefox. Why the fuck would anyone normal even consider it?
God grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference.
It was a manual review conducted by an actual person that in the end admitted they were wrong
Good to know! I wasn't sure if it was automated or not. That's rough.
I thought that was the shit Chrome was doing to block adblockers and antimalware plugins, if Firefox is doing the same thing what browser do we use now?
They're doing a modified version of V3 that they changed to restore ad-blocking functionality.
then someone with much more talent can step up, rename the plugin, and carry on.
The challenge is choosing the next maintainer user handle.
github.com/msftcangoblowm/sphi…
Good choice?
Agreed. Especially considering uBlock origin is pretty much the main reason to use FF at all. They shouldn't be delegating reviews of it to someone who would fuck up this badly.
Assuming this wasn't a "test the waters" kind of thing to determine just how much they were reliant on ublock.
I've been using the main FF build for a while now but I'm wondering if I should start looking at the various fork options.
I dont get why you would run that on Firefox. Users will find the corrent one, all good.
Btw is the uBlock without Origin addon still there?
This one is completely on Mozilla. TBH I'm not very happy with their governance either. Stop spending money on bullshit and start working on the damn browser. Stop hassling devs like him who have had an immense contribution to not only open source, but your fucking browser's usage metrics.
I wish another browser standard comes up and we can say goodbye to this google-infested shit-bucket that is mozilla.
Ok, but "google-infested shit-buckets" are also Chrome and all the chromium poop cups, even more so one might say.
Not disagreeing, especially with the sad sentiment of what's happening at Mozilla, just trying to keep in mind the other 95% of the browser picture.
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I'd love a legit third choice (again)!
And he just leaves them hanging.
I'm referring to the users asking the questions.
To be fair it's been less than a day, one of the great things about internet messaging is how asynchronous it can be, it's great for calming anxieties about needing to come up with a reply immediately like if you're on the phone or something x.x
You're right though, I don't reply to things often enough, partly because I'm very sick with COVID at the moment but also a lot of it is my social anxiety and fear of rejection.
I get so scared of what people might say that I avoid looking at the replies, even when I initially reach out because I want to interact with people and form connections ><
It's one of my big problems that I need to overcome, I'm still working out how to tackle it, but I do know it's a problem, and it's mine to solve.
Alas I can't afford things like therapy, so I just have to stumble around trying to figure my ADHD, possibly autistic (wish I could get seen for a diagnosis...), anxious, dumb ass brain out 😅
I'm sorry in the mean time for being a bit annoying, I don't mean to be on purpose
Your username vintage balls reminded me of those little rubber balls we used to get at kids, I don't see them any more (maybe they're seen as too much of a choking hazard now?), so they feel kinda "vintage" to me now haha.
Those things could really bounce! I liked the semi translucent ones with the rainbow swirl patterns.
There is fairly substantial rumor that there may be a smear campaign against firefox lately because they are still supporting manifest v2, which our owning class does not care for.
Mozilla has made their fair share of stupid decisions lately, but they are still leagues ahead of Google, Amazon, and the other FAANG-type companies in ethics and trustworthiness. Definitely something to keep a pulse on, but nothing to throw the baby out with the bathwater over. And if it really bothers you, use LibreWolf/Fennec.
I'm not the best guy to ask for sensitive responses, but try to take my blunt and possibly obnoxious response in a positive light.
There are a lot of people saying terrible things on the internet, to the point where only the more aggregious ones stand out. Most things will be ignored or forgotten by most people, whether they were good or bad, but I appreciated this post, and you for putting it out there.
I was trying to make a lewdly suggestive comment about vintage balls leaving them hanging. Apparently it wasn't done very well, but it did have unintended and appreciated consequences.
Ahh, old hanging balls, gotchya xD
Yeah the medium of text can be tricky to convey meaning sometimes, I'm a pretty sarcastic person (gotta love using humour to cope with every situation, so healthy...) with a very deadpan kinda delivery on a lot of it, so I often find myself wondering if my intent came across well over text. Tricky indeed.
Anyway you're cool, and thanks for taking the time to reply so thoughtfully
Now, I'm going to go back to being drenched in a cold sweat! It seems that's today's COVID symptom roulette wheel choice! 💦☉_☉💦
Strypey
in reply to Laurens Hof • • •> Sending out a newsletter over ActivityPub to 5000 subscribers turned out to need 10 servers, which indicates how resource-intensive and expensive ActivityPub can be
I'm interested in the details. I'm guessing Ghost sent out 5000 documents full of bloated HTML markup, big fat images, and tracking cruft. Like people do with email newsletters. If so, not exactly an AP problem.
This is not compulsory, and there may more efficient approaches, requiring much less server power.
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Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •What would make more sense in theory is;
1) get the newsletter payload to lose weight
2a) send only metadata and ASCII text. Then... stop. Nobody needs the rest of the cruft.
2b) send only metadata and ASCII text, and have receiving servers DOFV (Down On First View) for the rest.
With a DOFV approach, timing of heavier downloads is staggered, as people view the post at different times. Instead of hitting the sending server all at once. Also, posts that are never seen, never need to be sent.