Listen, I'm all for open sourcing stuff and I'm all for the fediverse and all. I just don't understand why one would want a fediverse tiktok.
Short form content is addictive af and doesn't add anything of substance to society.
Video hosting is expensive. Peertube is already struggling. How do you expect to financially sustain video hosting that is addictive to the user (which means more consumption) without running ads? Paywalling it won't be an option due to the network effect as well.
I have hundreds of short form videos which are designed to uplift, encourage, and speak positively about mental health issues. I’ve had lots of people tell me that my videos in some small way encourage them to take the next step in their mental health.
In other words, it’s not the form of the video that matters, it’s the content.
As for the cost of the server, I think the videos will expire after a certain amount of time. Something like Snapchat.
The great thing about the Fediverse is that it offers options. Is this going to be exactly like TikTok? Of course not. Will it serve a purpose for some? Time will tell.
Well peertube is struggling already so thats a valid question. Idk if they using peertube style bitorrent video delivery that might help offload the cost a little.
IMO a very small amount of storage should be free but after that the user needs to pay. It's the right thing to do for hosts and for the environment. If content creators need massive amounts of video then that will incentivize them to make money on it.
The only people left out are small, niche channels that have quality or important content but don't make much money. Maybe they could be cut special deals by the hosts / donors.
...And which big creator would choose to PAY instead of getting paid for uploading their videos (like it is, as of now)? I doubt this model would work at all, I don't think anyone would want to join like that. Sure enough, youtube/tiktok/insta/whatever takes a chunk of the profits too, but at least content creators there can start from scratch and don't have to invest in hosting first.
Big creators make a ton of money from their videos. I'm fine with the Fediverse adding ads, or creators doing sponsorships. We need a separation of concerns. Fediverse is removing centralized corporate control.
We need a way to get good content creators money on the Fediverse.
I don't know what to make of this. Regular tiktok just is sooooo offputting to me. The 50x overlays. The voiceovers which are the basis of the content, with the video that has NOTHING to do with the content. The chinese spying. It's all just very bad.
But then I remember a federated version would be.......different. I can't imagine it would be like tiktok with text overlays. I can't imagine the content would be similar either. It'll be like "here's the better way to sudo your linux....."
Which, as someone who doesn't care about linux, I'd find it less offensive, but still wouldn't care about it.
It's a bit hard to imagine the fediverse crowd being huge on a tiktok-like platform. I think it's an important development, even just as a proof of concept, but it would have to attract an audience from a whole different target audience, and one that might have less patience for technical hiccups.
I think video content is also fundamentally more asymmetrical - from a few influencers to a large number of consumers. Which is probably what the fediverse is heading towards as well, but it's not what it does best at the moment.
I don't think I'm the target audience of this, and I'm not sure it'll be a success. But I think it's a very interesting and important development anyway.
I'm very intrigued, Dan Sup is one of the most interesting people working in the fediverse these days, and I'm very curious about anything he puts forward.
It's kinda the entire point for a lot of the users and uploaders, that and getting paid to continue the cycle of creating more content.
If you're expecting us, as-in, the federated populace on Lemmy and Mastodon to use it, I dunno, man. Sharing personal content is a very rare use case here. We usually stick to news and memes.
Then again, communities that are rather reliant on a performance like fishing, sports, guitar, drums, and skill toys like yoyos might get a use out of having a safe public place to upload themselves without outside influence.
A lot of content on Tiktok is about presenting content rather the person. It can be similar to Youtube, but more accessible for beginners content creators now that a lot of Youtubers have a professional setup, and barrier to entry is much higher.
I mean I know it was a hyperbole. There are negative comments in the thread, though. They mostly don't like it for it's short video form and algorithm I think.
Lilbits: PineNote, Office 2024, Snapdragon X2 Elite, and a fanless Intel N100 mini PC made for networking
The PineNote is a tablet with a Rockchip RK3566 processor, 4GB of RAM, 128GB of storage, and a 10.3 inch, 1404 x 1872 pixel E Ink display with support for pressure-sensitive EMR pen input. First introduced in 2021, the tablet began shipping to early adopters in early 2022. But it’s been unavailable for purchase for a while now.
That’s because the pace of software development was slow. […]
U.S. tropical cyclones, including hurricanes, indirectly cause thousands of deaths for nearly 15 years after a storm. Understanding why could help minimize future deaths from hazards fueled by climate change.
One thing they didn’t mention but I’ve seen on the news before is that flood waters often contain carcinogenic/other polluting chemicals leeched from the ground, and other waste streams. How much of that gets left in people’s soil (or wells if they have a well system), or even in their house after rebuilding?
With diffusion being a foundational aspect of solutes mixing in solutions, the water should have an even distribution of the contaminants. However, the tidal force of water associated with a storm surge probably throws a wrench in the plan here. But generally, it's evenly spread throughout and will be found in relatively even amounts everywhere the water settles.
It'll be in the air too. Anything in the soil will become dust in the air for years. It'll get kicked into the air every time a lawn is mowed, a hole gets dug, a dry season occurs, etc
Tidy- Offline semantic Text-to-Image and Image-to-Image search on Android powered by quantized state-of-the-art vision-language pretrained CLIP model and ONNX Runtime inference engine
Features * Text-to-Image search: Find photos using natural language descriptions. * Image-to-Image search: Discover visually similar images. * Automatic indexing: New photos are automatically added to the index. * Fast and efficient: Get search results quickly. * Privacy-focused: Your photos never leave your device. * No internet required: Works perfectly offline. * Powered by OpenAI's CLIP model: Uses advanced AI for accurate results.
Offline semantic Text-to-Image and Image-to-Image search on Android powered by quantized state-of-the-art vision-language pretrained CLIP model and ONNX Runtime inference engine - slavabarkov/tidy
Just tried it out, works great! I was able to do some basic searches and most results mad sense
Two cool features would be: - ability to delete photos. I could see searching and deleting a good workflow - if possible, see what tags the images have to see how CLIP output works
I love the idea, but in reality I think it's a bit clunky having to wait for the app finishing it's scanning (Every. Time. It. Opens), which is... kinda slow, before you can get to see the gallery. And yes, the whole purpose of the app is to use the index it builds, but it should be able to let you use an outdated index while a new one is being rebuilt, instead of having you wait forever each time.
I do have a large gallery, so maybe this is not an issue with smaller photo albums.
This doesn't sound like the normal behavior. From the app description: "This indexing process may take some time, but it's a one-time event. Once this initial indexing process is complete, the app will store the index on your device, and any new photos you add to your photo library will be automatically added to the index on the subsequent app launches."
If your experience is different you may let the dev know so they can fix it.
Doing that I can see the loading bar for half a second when reopening the app. As stated on the app webpage this is certainly to update the database with any new images but it doesn't rebuild the entire database from scratch. Maybe your cache gets deleted automatically when you close the app on your device. Make sure you have no other app that may do so.
This week's news: - Threads degrades their activitypub integration, delaying posts by 15 minutes before they appear in the rest of the fediverse - Website League is a new ActivityPub-based Island network, outside of the rest of the fediverse - Ghost discusses their beta plans and pricing.
This week's news: - Threads degrades their activitypub integration, delaying posts by 15 minutes before they appear in the rest of the fediverse - Website League is a new ActivityPub-based Island network, outside of the rest of the fediverse - Ghost discusses their beta plans and pricing.
Threads degrades their fediverse integration, a separate ActivityPub-based Island Network launches, and more news about Ghost and ActivityPub.
Threads delays posts for 15 minutes before federating
Threads’ latest update has degraded the value of their fediverse integration. Posts made on Threads will now always be delayed by 15 minutes before they are delivered to the rest of the fediverse, if fediverse sharing is turned on. The 15 minute delay is added for the purpose of post editing; posts on Threads can now be edited for 15 minutes after they are created. This used to be 5 minutes, both as a window for editing posts as well as the delay to be send out to the rest of the fediverse.
A 15 minute delay is a long time in microblogging, and significantly impacts things like breaking news, and live-posting sports events. It also meaningfully impacts the ability to have a back-and-forth conversation with people in a comment section. The delay itself is already an issue, but things get even more problematic when taken into consideration that during live events, Threads posts with a 15 minute delay are now mixed with fediverse posts without a delay and presented as happening during the same time. This was already noticeable during yesterday’s U.S. VP debate, an event where people use microblogging for the real-time reaction. But part of the real-time reactions was actually 15 minutes delayed, while another part was not, which creates even more confusing experience. A Threads engineer says that they will want to solve this problem ‘eventually’, but that it will probably come after Threads has implemented full bi-directional interoperability.
This news is not a great start for the Social Web Foundation either, which launched last week with criticism from the wider fediverse developer community for having Meta as one of their supporting members. There is a distrust of Meta’s intention within the fediverse, and them degrading their fediverse integration is likely not helping.
Website League
The Website League is a new social networking project that has arisen out of the demise of Cohost. Cohost was a social media site for the last 2 years, that has shut down, and on October 1st the website entered read-only mode. Cohost had a dedicated user base who appreciated the community that they’ve build on the site. Website League is a new project by users of Cohost (the Cohost staff is not involved) to build a successor network in Cohost’s place.
What makes Website League stand out is that it is a federated Island Network, described by Website League themselves as ‘a bunch of smallish websites that talk to each other’. This federated social network is using ActivityPub, but deliberately does not connect to the rest of the fediverse. Instead, it is an allowlist-based form of federation, where only websites/servers who agree to the Website League’s central set of rules can join.
The Website League has a big focus community organisation and governance. Even though the project is very young, and launched under time pressure of the deadline of Cohost closing, there are already multiple systems in place with an active Loomio for Stewardship, a wiki and more. The Website League provides a different vision of what a federated social network build on top of ActivityPub can look like, and I’m very curious to see where the project will go.
Ghost and Fedify
Ghost published their latest update on their work on adding ActivityPub, with more information about their upcoming beta. Ghost is slowly starting their beta process soon, making it clear that this is indeed a testing program, and data loss should be expected for people who are participating. They also said more about the performance and scaling of Ghost and ActivityPub. Sending out a newsletter over ActivityPub to 5000 subscribers turned out to need 10 servers, which indicates how resource-intensive and expensive ActivityPub can be. As a result, ActivityPub followers will count towards Ghost Pro billing, as Ghost Pro charges based on the number of members an account has.
Fedify, an open-source framework that simplifies building federated server apps, is now officially in version 1.0. Ghost’s ActivityPub integration is build on top of Fedify, and Ghost is sponsoring the Fedify developer as well.
The Mastodon server strangeobjects.space will shut down, and in the announcement post the admins explain the emotional cost and impact that comes with being a server admin.
This week's news: - Threads degrades their activitypub integration, delaying posts by 15 minutes before they appear in the rest of the fediverse - Website League is a new ActivityPub-based Island network, outside of the rest of the fediverse - Ghost discusses their beta plans and pricing.
This week's news: - Threads degrades their activitypub integration, delaying posts by 15 minutes before they appear in the rest of the fediverse - Website League is a new ActivityPub-based Island network, outside of the rest of the fediverse - Ghost discusses their beta plans and pricing.
Threads degrades their fediverse integration, a separate ActivityPub-based Island Network launches, and more news about Ghost and ActivityPub.
Threads delays posts for 15 minutes before federating
Threads’ latest update has degraded the value of their fediverse integration. Posts made on Threads will now always be delayed by 15 minutes before they are delivered to the rest of the fediverse, if fediverse sharing is turned on. The 15 minute delay is added for the purpose of post editing; posts on Threads can now be edited for 15 minutes after they are created. This used to be 5 minutes, both as a window for editing posts as well as the delay to be send out to the rest of the fediverse.
A 15 minute delay is a long time in microblogging, and significantly impacts things like breaking news, and live-posting sports events. It also meaningfully impacts the ability to have a back-and-forth conversation with people in a comment section. The delay itself is already an issue, but things get even more problematic when taken into consideration that during live events, Threads posts with a 15 minute delay are now mixed with fediverse posts without a delay and presented as happening during the same time. This was already noticeable during yesterday’s U.S. VP debate, an event where people use microblogging for the real-time reaction. But part of the real-time reactions was actually 15 minutes delayed, while another part was not, which creates even more confusing experience. A Threads engineer says that they will want to solve this problem ‘eventually’, but that it will probably come after Threads has implemented full bi-directional interoperability.
This news is not a great start for the Social Web Foundation either, which launched last week with criticism from the wider fediverse developer community for having Meta as one of their supporting members. There is a distrust of Meta’s intention within the fediverse, and them degrading their fediverse integration is likely not helping.
Website League
The Website League is a new social networking project that has arisen out of the demise of Cohost. Cohost was a social media site for the last 2 years, that has shut down, and on October 1st the website entered read-only mode. Cohost had a dedicated user base who appreciated the community that they’ve build on the site. Website League is a new project by users of Cohost (the Cohost staff is not involved) to build a successor network in Cohost’s place.
What makes Website League stand out is that it is a federated Island Network, described by Website League themselves as ‘a bunch of smallish websites that talk to each other’. This federated social network is using ActivityPub, but deliberately does not connect to the rest of the fediverse. Instead, it is an allowlist-based form of federation, where only websites/servers who agree to the Website League’s central set of rules can join.
The Website League has a big focus community organisation and governance. Even though the project is very young, and launched under time pressure of the deadline of Cohost closing, there are already multiple systems in place with an active Loomio for Stewardship, a wiki and more. The Website League provides a different vision of what a federated social network build on top of ActivityPub can look like, and I’m very curious to see where the project will go.
Ghost and Fedify
Ghost published their latest update on their work on adding ActivityPub, with more information about their upcoming beta. Ghost is slowly starting their beta process soon, making it clear that this is indeed a testing program, and data loss should be expected for people who are participating. They also said more about the performance and scaling of Ghost and ActivityPub. Sending out a newsletter over ActivityPub to 5000 subscribers turned out to need 10 servers, which indicates how resource-intensive and expensive ActivityPub can be. As a result, ActivityPub followers will count towards Ghost Pro billing, as Ghost Pro charges based on the number of members an account has.
Fedify, an open-source framework that simplifies building federated server apps, is now officially in version 1.0. Ghost’s ActivityPub integration is build on top of Fedify, and Ghost is sponsoring the Fedify developer as well.
The Mastodon server strangeobjects.space will shut down, and in the announcement post the admins explain the emotional cost and impact that comes with being a server admin.
Threads degrades their fediverse integration, a separate ActivityPub-based Island Network launches, and more news about Ghost and ActivityPub.
Threads delays posts for 15 minutes before federating
Threads’ latest update has degraded the value of their fediverse integration. Posts made on Threads will now always be delayed by 15 minutes before they are delivered to the rest of the fediverse, if fediverse sharing is turned on. The 15 minute delay is added for the purpose of post editing; posts on Threads can now be edited for 15 minutes after they are created. This used to be 5 minutes, both as a window for editing posts as well as the delay to be send out to the rest of the fediverse.
A 15 minute delay is a long time in microblogging, and significantly impacts things like breaking news, and live-posting sports events. It also mea
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Last Week in Fediverse – ep 86
Threads degrades their fediverse integration, a separate ActivityPub-based Island Network launches, and more news about Ghost and ActivityPub.
Threads delays posts for 15 minutes before federating
Threads’ latest update has degraded the value of their fediverse integration. Posts made on Threads will now always be delayed by 15 minutes before they are delivered to the rest of the fediverse, if fediverse sharing is turned on. The 15 minute delay is added for the purpose of post editing; posts on Threads can now be edited for 15 minutes after they are created. This used to be 5 minutes, both as a window for editing posts as well as the delay to be send out to the rest of the fediverse.
A 15 minute delay is a long time in microblogging, and significantly impacts things like breaking news, and live-posting sports events. It also meaningfully impacts the ability to have a back-and-forth conversation with people in a comment section. The delay itself is already an issue, but things get even more problematic when taken into consideration that during live events, Threads posts with a 15 minute delay are now mixed with fediverse posts without a delay and presented as happening during the same time. This was already noticeable during yesterday’s U.S. VP debate, an event where people use microblogging for the real-time reaction. But part of the real-time reactions was actually 15 minutes delayed, while another part was not, which creates even more confusing experience. A Threads engineer says that they will want to solve this problem ‘eventually’, but that it will probably come after Threads has implemented full bi-directional interoperability.
This news is not a great start for the Social Web Foundation either, which launched last week with criticism from the wider fediverse developer community for having Meta as one of their supporting members. There is a distrust of Meta’s intention within the fediverse, and them degrading their fediverse integration is likely not helping.
Website League
The Website League is a new social networking project that has arisen out of the demise of Cohost. Cohost was a social media site for the last 2 years, that has shut down, and on October 1st the website entered read-only mode. Cohost had a dedicated user base who appreciated the community that they’ve build on the site. Website League is a new project by users of Cohost (the Cohost staff is not involved) to build a successor network in Cohost’s place.
What makes Website League stand out is that it is a federated Island Network, described by Website League themselves as ‘a bunch of smallish websites that talk to each other’. This federated social network is using ActivityPub, but deliberately does not connect to the rest of the fediverse. Instead, it is an allowlist-based form of federation, where only websites/servers who agree to the Website League’s central set of rules can join.
The Website League has a big focus community organisation and governance. Even though the project is very young, and launched under time pressure of the deadline of Cohost closing, there are already multiple systems in place with an active Loomio for Stewardship, a wiki and more. The Website League provides a different vision of what a federated social network build on top of ActivityPub can look like, and I’m very curious to see where the project will go.
Ghost and Fedify
Ghost published their latest update on their work on adding ActivityPub, with more information about their upcoming beta. Ghost is slowly starting their beta process soon, making it clear that this is indeed a testing program, and data loss should be expected for people who are participating. They also said more about the performance and scaling of Ghost and ActivityPub. Sending out a newsletter over ActivityPub to 5000 subscribers turned out to need 10 servers, which indicates how resource-intensive and expensive ActivityPub can be. As a result, ActivityPub followers will count towards Ghost Pro billing, as Ghost Pro charges based on the number of members an account has.
Fedify, an open-source framework that simplifies building federated server apps, is now officially in version 1.0. Ghost’s ActivityPub integration is build on top of Fedify, and Ghost is sponsoring the Fedify developer as well.
The Mastodon server strangeobjects.space will shut down, and in the announcement post the admins explain the emotional cost and impact that comes with being a server admin.
> Sending out a newsletter over ActivityPub to 5000 subscribers turned out to need 10 servers, which indicates how resource-intensive and expensive ActivityPub can be
I'm interested in the details. I'm guessing Ghost sent out 5000 documents full of bloated HTML markup, big fat images, and tracking cruft. Like people do with email newsletters. If so, not exactly an AP problem.
This is not compulsory, and there may more efficient approaches, requiring much less server power.
2a) send only metadata and ASCII text. Then... stop. Nobody needs the rest of the cruft.
2b) send only metadata and ASCII text, and have receiving servers DOFV (Down On First View) for the rest.
With a DOFV approach, timing of heavier downloads is staggered, as people view the post at different times. Instead of hitting the sending server all at once. Also, posts that are never seen, never need to be sent.
"... Researchers are hoping to do that now that they have a new map — the most complete for any organism so far — of the brain of a single fruit fly (Drosophila melanogaster). The wiring diagram, or ‘connectome’, includes nearly 140,000 neurons and captures more than 54.5 million synapses, which are the connections between nerve cells.
... The map is described in a package of nine papers about the data published in Nature today. Its creators are part of a consortium known as FlyWire, co-led by neuroscientists Mala Murthy and Sebastian Seung at Princeton University in New Jersey."
The team was surprised by some of the ways in which the various cells connect to one another, too. For instance, neurons that were thought to be involved in just one sensory wiring circuit, such as a visual pathway, tended to receive cues from multiple senses, including hearing and touch1. “It’s astounding how interconnected the brain is,” Murthy says.
Could this explain synesthesia better or any other similar condition(?)?
Well there is a phenomenon where your brain will make sound and sight "match up" even when it shouldn't. Like if you hear and see a basketball bouncing 75 meters away, the sound should have about a 0.25 second delay. But your brain will make you perceive the sound as happening simultaneously with the ball hitting the ground, despite the fact that you could not perceive the visual and auditory sensations simultaneously. If you go further away with the ball, eventually there is a threshold where your start perceiving the delay. The auditory and visual sense would need to be somehow linked for this phenomenon to happen I'd say.
I guess it's the brains way of matching visual and auditory cues to try to make a better picture of the world. The brain is basically saying "that sound came from the ball" and you don't even need to think consciously to know that.
There's also really tight coordination between sight and proprioception, as our visual processing seamlessly stitches together visual information into a three dimensional model of reality, even if we're moving while taking in that visual information, through stereoscopic signals from two eyes.
As far as I understand, not really, as neural networks are more of a metaphor than an analogue. They don't have a one to one correspondence to brain neuron behavior.
In a physical (as in physics) sense, it’s because software neural nets are inherently digital, whereas actual neurons function in the analog (in terms of electrical impulses, as well as chemically) domain. We don’t have tech to accurately and effectively represent all of that.
Based on my understanding of how these things work: Yes, probably no, and probably no... I think the map is just a "catalogue" of what things are, not at the point where we can do fancy models on it
This is their GitHub account, anyone knowledgeable enough about research software engineering is welcomed to give it a try
There are a few neuroscientists who are trying to decipher biological neural connections using principles from deep learning (a.k.a. AI/ML), don't think this is a popular subfield though. Andreas Tolias is the first one that comes to my mind, he and a bunch of folks from Columbia/Baylor were in a consortium when I started my PhD... not sure if that consortium is still going. His lab website (SSL cert expired bruh). They might solve the second two statements you raised... no idea when though.
Well there is no "data" per se, there's voltages and a wiring map. And this article is talking about having the complete wiring map.
The neurons deliver electrical pulses across synapses. The thickness and length of the synapse can affect the voltage or amplitude transmitted across to the next neuron. And again, if we have this fairly complete map of synapses, we may have enough information to calculate the electrical outputs of each neuron when it fires.
My understanding is that neurons work something like transistors, they receive signals and when triggered by a strong enough signal, or by enough simultaneous signals, that neuron will also fire and transmit down its synapses. With this alone you absolutely have enough structure for very complex decision making, much like a microprocessor.
I guess the question is really how accurate is this map? If we have a clear enough picture of every synaptic connection, we could simply simulate behavior in software...
It's such a culture shock in this comment section but FOSS MalDev is absolutely not as uncommon as you might think. A nice trip down to VxUnderground rabbit hole compiling and deplying some samples is tons of fun for an afternoon for any casual ghidra enjoyer.
Bolagsförmedlarna. Ekobrottsmyndigheten (EBM) larmade i september om att så kallade bolagsförmedlare samarbetar med och underlättar för kriminella. Detta bland annat genom att sälja så kallade historikbolag till personer med tvivelaktiga syften och kriminellt förflutet. Dessa bolag anävnds i en mängd brottsupplägg på flera olika sätt.
Looks like it's also a variant of Synergy, so I guess it's just the same. There's a lot of different forks of it, I'm not sure which one is the 'best' these days.
Not a variant. Read their README. It IS Synergy, they're renaming the open-source / community version to that, while Synergy will remain the commercial product built out of that.
Barrier has been abandoned quite awhile ago. Its successor is supposed to be InputLeap, and although their GitHub repo is very active, they have yet to make a release.
I didn't even know that Synergy provided a "community" version of their app until very recently. I've paid for a license many years ago, so I've been using their 1.1x versions, which for better or worse, are still maintained along with the 3.x branch (which I've tried using but could never make it work, which is for the best because the fact they pivoted their UI to electron-based also left a bad taste in my mouth).
Edit: also, if I understand correctly, Synergy's latest versions on the 1.x branch borrows a lot from InputLeap.
Password managers are the bees knees if you have to use a password, I do like the authenticator only logins especially if you have an obnoxious number of sites you have to login to. I will say though, that clipboards are tricky especially in an environment where VNC/Screen Connect etc are actively used. Screen Connect especially will happily grab the clipboard contents and share it with the other user.
that too, but not just that. how does access control work, how is memory safety around the receiving and authenticating code, is the traffic encrypted and how..because keystrokes, and I think mouse actions are also sensitive
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in reply to asudox • • •So tiktok for the fediverse...
Listen, I'm all for open sourcing stuff and I'm all for the fediverse and all. I just don't understand why one would want a fediverse tiktok.
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in reply to UraniumBlazer • • •I have hundreds of short form videos which are designed to uplift, encourage, and speak positively about mental health issues. I’ve had lots of people tell me that my videos in some small way encourage them to take the next step in their mental health.
In other words, it’s not the form of the video that matters, it’s the content.
As for the cost of the server, I think the videos will expire after a certain amount of time. Something like Snapchat.
The great thing about the Fediverse is that it offers options. Is this going to be exactly like TikTok? Of course not. Will it serve a purpose for some? Time will tell.
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in reply to MrFunkEdude • • •Could you please drop a link to them? If what u'r saying is true, well I kinda need em at this point in time :(
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in reply to UraniumBlazer • • •davbot.media/w/p/uyr57kXBK9WQB…
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in reply to UraniumBlazer • • •Tiktok and the sludge of normal social media is the prime suspect here, not types of freaking videos.
As for hosting, that's gonna have to be built/devised long-term. Nothing to do but get to it!
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in reply to iturnedintoanewt • • •IMO a very small amount of storage should be free but after that the user needs to pay. It's the right thing to do for hosts and for the environment. If content creators need massive amounts of video then that will incentivize them to make money on it.
The only people left out are small, niche channels that have quality or important content but don't make much money. Maybe they could be cut special deals by the hosts / donors.
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in reply to iturnedintoanewt • • •Big creators make a ton of money from their videos. I'm fine with the Fediverse adding ads, or creators doing sponsorships. We need a separation of concerns. Fediverse is removing centralized corporate control.
We need a way to get good content creators money on the Fediverse.
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in reply to asudox • • •I don't know what to make of this. Regular tiktok just is sooooo offputting to me. The 50x overlays. The voiceovers which are the basis of the content, with the video that has NOTHING to do with the content. The chinese spying. It's all just very bad.
But then I remember a federated version would be.......different. I can't imagine it would be like tiktok with text overlays. I can't imagine the content would be similar either. It'll be like "here's the better way to sudo your linux....."
Which, as someone who doesn't care about linux, I'd find it less offensive, but still wouldn't care about it.
All in all, I'm not excited for it.
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in reply to Lost_My_Mind • • •My Tiktok feed is legal analysis of court cases, magic the gathering card reviews, and Marvel deep dives. You get fed what you watch.
Just report that voiceover shit.
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in reply to Lost_My_Mind • • •It's a bit hard to imagine the fediverse crowd being huge on a tiktok-like platform. I think it's an important development, even just as a proof of concept, but it would have to attract an audience from a whole different target audience, and one that might have less patience for technical hiccups.
I think video content is also fundamentally more asymmetrical - from a few influencers to a large number of consumers. Which is probably what the fediverse is heading towards as well, but it's not what it does best at the moment.
I don't think I'm the target audience of this, and I'm not sure it'll be a success. But I think it's a very interesting and important development anyway.
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in reply to asudox • • •I'm actually interested to see how this does so I've been following it.
As someone who enjoyed the brief comet that was Vine but despises TikTok, this feels like a throw back to that.
Of course, I'd be delusional if I said that wasn't hopeful thinking.
You can also follow it yourself at loops.video
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in reply to asudox • • •It's just... Part of TikTok is attention-seeking.
It's kinda the entire point for a lot of the users and uploaders, that and getting paid to continue the cycle of creating more content.
If you're expecting us, as-in, the federated populace on Lemmy and Mastodon to use it, I dunno, man. Sharing personal content is a very rare use case here. We usually stick to news and memes.
Then again, communities that are rather reliant on a performance like fishing, sports, guitar, drums, and skill toys like yoyos might get a use out of having a safe public place to upload themselves without outside influence.
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