ahhh, this is the line i was referring to.. maybe i misunderstood

my work for the community has been purely volunteer for more than
a year now (and less than half of it had been payable before that).

they were good people that didn't send thousands of Jews to their deaths

I'm not sure how you've counted it but the number for those who were given to the Germans was eight refugees and "some tens" of (Soviet) PoWs. A pretty far cry from the "thousands" you mentioned, but as I said, I'm not sure what you are counting.

For a long time the war and stuff like this was a sore point and the heroic myth overruled everything but since at least for a decade this particular topic has got a lot of public discourse. The heroic myth still lives on though, even if it is milder than it used to be.

I’m not sure how you’ve counted it but the number for those who were given to the Germans was eight refugees and “some tens” of (Soviet) PoWs.

That is the official ahistorical line. Actual historical work accounts for thousands.

Can you share some of these works?

E: TL;DR cited works didn't actually claim "thousands" but "approximately 100". With two zeroes.

I am looking at both but I honestly think you just made a mistake and thought the total number of extraditions was all Jews when the claim is just that "approximately 100" were.

If there's part on either that goes against the quote shown, that jumps up the number tenfold (or more), I'd be happy to see it. But neither book nor any public discourse or (academic) reviews of the books seem to talk about anything but what I've quoted here. If the claim was thousands of Jewish victims and not "approximately 100", from what I could find, everyone but you have read it differently or missed that part. And that would be really significant with how big of a disconnect there has been.

I think you've just misread or misremembered that part...

Instead of guessing incorrectly, you could read the materials I offered. I don't know why you believe your lazy guesswork is better than my reading.

I will give you one hint but to be honest at this point it is being too nice: POWs.

It can be hard to admit to having been wrong, even when it's an understandable mistake like this, but literally no one else read the books you mentioned and came away with thinking it was thousands of Jews. First book clearly says (citing the second) it was "approximately 100". Thousands would be at least ten times that.

You are trying to convince me that these books have a ten times bigger number than what everyone else seems to think they said (including the author of the first book), but you can't give any quotations, you can't give anything concrete other than "it's there trust me bro".

I doubt anyone is buying what you are selling. Now would be a good time to either admit to the mistake or put money where your mouth is and actually cite the works like I have.

I did cite works. You have decided that your guessing based on Googling is better than reading the books cited. I cannot fix your laziness. You asked for things to read and I provided them. I cannot, unfortunately, make you read them instead of bullshitting.

Sana estimated 500 from a single deportation, by the way.

I don't think I'm better than the books you cited.

You obviously prize your guesswork and imagination over the historical work you were provided. You are repeatedly announcing, with certainty, how correct you are based on a screenshot of a review of several books, in contradiction of what the book I cited will tell you.

Like I said, I can't force you to read. You are welcome for the book recommendations.

These are numbers from the actual books

I already told you that Sana esrimated 500 from a single deportation. You have not read Sana's works.

I will not be replying further. You are welcome for the book recommendations. I wonder if you will read them.

already told you that Sana esrimated 500 from a single deportation.

She said 500 people were deported (in that single instance), not that 500 Jews were deported... You are misremembering or misunderstood what she said, I'm sorry to say.

I will not be replying further

I was about to ask if you have the book right in front of you and could perhaps check that what you remember reading is actually what it said. That way we could both double check that you got it right. But I somehow doubt that would happen anyway. If you have the book right now it wouldn't hurt to double check.

Another thing I was thinking of was that in what language did you read it? If you read it in Finnish, are you a native speaker or fluent? Because a misunderstanding could be down to that.

I'm honestly just trying my hardest to find out what part you are citing and why you'd come up with such a wildly different number from everyone else. I know you said you wouldn't reply anymore but it would be very helpful in figuring out this mystery.

She said 500 people were deported

Okay one last note: she estimated 500 Jews were deported in a single deportation. You can go ahead and read the book that you have no read and that I have if you want the privilege of asserting otherwise.

Such proud, unapologetic, arrogant lying.

Okay but really, last reply. Have a nice life. Hope you find a way to stop huffing your own farts.

Do you happen to remember where in the book did she claim that? I'm honestly trying to just figure out where in the book you read that since I don't think anyone else came off from reading it with such a drastically different number. What everyone else, such as the other book you mentioned, keeps saying is "approximately 100". It's such a big disparity that it's interesting.

Such proud, unapologetic, arrogant lying.

Okay but really, last reply. Have a nice life. Hope you find a way to stop huffing your own farts.

I mean tbh I think you've just made a mistake and are too pigheaded to admit it. But I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt, it might just be an honest case of misremembering. If you have the book around or otherwise remember where those numbers were claimed in it we could easily check and that'd be that.

Stuxnet is just the beginning. Who knows how many hidden programs they're running and building, how many certs and VPNs are compromised, what encryption algos they've cracked, what platforms they have full and instant access to, what critical infrastructure they've rigged to blow, just waiting for a go code...

We won't know for 20 years at least.