Donald Trump wins US presidency
Donald Trump has been elected the 47th president of the United States, an extraordinary comeback for a former president who refused to accept defeat four years ago, sparked a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, was convicted of felony charges and survived two assassination attempts.
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Donald Trump has 267 of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House and is leading in key races left to be called, including Michigan and Wisconsin.AP News
Global surface air temperature still above anything observed at this time of the year.
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China is the largest contributor to global patent applications, substantially ahead of other countries - Our World in Data
China is the largest contributor to global patent applications, substantially ahead of other countries
China’s patent applications have grown rapidly in recent decades, as shown in the chart. Chinese applications surpassed US applications in 2010, reaching over 1.4 million in 2021.Our World in Data
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I tried to warn Valencia’s government about flooding, but it didn’t listen | Juan Bordera
It’s almost impossible to describe what we have experienced in the flooded villages and towns around the city of Valencia. Many of those villages and towns are in ruins, with at least 217 dead and others to be pulled out of the mud. There are many areas that still need urgent help. There are towns without water or electricity that have not been able to clean up. There are still flooded garages, buildings on the verge of collapse, and health problems that may result from the accumulated water.
But what also defies belief is the regional Valencian government’s sheer negligence in its pre- and post-disaster management. Let me try to summarise some of the most serious shortcomings.
In September 2023, members of Compromís, a leftwing alliance in the Valencian regional parliament, presented a proposal tackling “the increasing risks of flooding in the Mediterranean”. The government voted against it.
Just last month, we raised the issue three further times, even presenting an urgent proposal that was to be debated in November. All we were asking for was the scientific studies on these growing risks to be taken seriously, and more and better coordination of forces to deal with the risks. We didn’t ask for much because we knew that in Valencia’s rightwing government, led by the People’s party, there were people with a terrible record on believing in the climate crisis and taking it seriously.
I tried to warn Valencia’s government about flooding, but it didn’t listen
The rightwing regional authorities ignored the climate-crisis science and dismissed the weather forecast, says Juan Bordera, a climate journalist and an MP in the Valencian parliamentJuan Bordera (The Guardian)
X Is a White-Supremacist Site
X Is a White-Supremacist Site
Elon Musk has made one of Twitter’s most glaring problems into a core feature on X.Charlie Warzel (The Atlantic)
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Twitter is not a free platform. It actively suppresses the voices of the left and protects the far right.
I do sincerely support free speech. I think it looks a lot more like the Fediverse than Twitter.
Conversely, other social media have been also known to suppress the right and protect the left
Where the hell are these socialist social media sites supposed to be? Are you going to say that it's Lemmy, like that's a comparable example?
You are so fucking wrong. I have never understood this logic that because people are doing things out in the open that it's a good thing. They are popularizing their ideas. More people are exposed to them when they're out in the open. Had they been operating in some obscure forum, they would lack the advertising of their ideas to others.
For what possible reason could this be "positive"? So that the rest of us are aware of their first amendment protected hateful ideas? What good does that do anyone? We just elected one of them to be president of the United States. Allowing hate speech to bloom out in the open tempers our reactions and slowly seeps into our minds as propaganda.
Freedom of speech is, in the US, something that the US Constitution promises will not be restricted by Congress. It is not something any private company is required to protect. I would argue that private companies have a responsibility to its users to ban all hate speech and report substantiated threats to law enforcement.
For example, from a US-based perspective, a "positive" is that law enforcement agencies and the thousands of social media monitoring tools they utilize look at Twitter and other big platforms. LEO agencies have had for years the channels to monitor posts and request instantaneously from those companies supplemental information on the user or post that is being investigated. LE will be out of luck if they were attempting to immediately investigate a user on an obscure white supremacist forum hosted in Russia. That website owner and its servers would not be in jurisdiction to respond to that request.
Also, please see my other reply 1 minute before yours regarding private companies being able to ban, suprress, etc. I agree with you that private companies can run their own ship how they please, whether in the best interests of profit or ideology.
Rights are not handed to us by God or by Nature, they are legal constructs, created by people. They are not immaculate or immune to criticism or alteration on the basis of what we think would be better for human society. White supremacy must be smashed to its very core, and part of accomplishing that task is making sure it's as difficult for white supremacists to recruit and congregate as we can possibly make it.
It's bizarre idealism to think that opposition to white supremacy will be overcome with no loss of enthusiasm or membership, that any interference actually has zero effect and we're just better off letting them do what they want.
Freedom of speech may be great in the abstract, as an ideal, but unfortunately it isn't very useful when speech platforms are controlled by the owning class. Our speech means little compared to the speech of national TV channels, news outlets and restricted social platforms. The utopian marketplace of ideas becomes a rigged supermarket.
I highly recommend the book Manufacturing Consent, which explains some core systematic factors which shape the US mass media (also applicable to other countries) into essentially a largely-homogeneous echo chamber without the need for legally censoring opposing speech.
Frankly, doing this openly on X/Twitter versus some obscure unknown forum or encrypted platforn is a positive.
Hardly - they're doing this to spread their message, not to have a good faith discussion and expose themselves to other viewpoints. It's purely predatory, and removing their platform reduces their impact. Yes, they will always find ways to communicate but they struggle more to find ways to advertise and recruit without public platforms amplifying them.
So is Mastodon really, well not a site but yeah, a lot of users there are ex 4-channers or still use it and it shows.
Fedi isn't really any better.
Thankfully all the instances we're on block heavily but there are some well known bad actors who are white supremacists and a lot of reply guys, JAQ etc people too, I've seen quite a few who have slipped through the cracks before.
Yeah, if your instances doesn't discuss politics and you don't follow anyone outside of music circles or at least don't open anything with a political CW you likely won't ever see it, but it's there.
the fascists of the fedi don’t roam free on the wider network, they harass in secret, usually in DMs or "followers only" posts
there’s also a problem with subtle white supremacy, where Black people (and other POC, but mostly Black people) will get piles and piles of harassment that’s totally unrelated to being Black you see, of course, but its not happening to white people for some bizarre reason!! (see also: the many cases involving TheBadSpace where any Black person who was ever so slightly in favor of Ro and their work would get a fuckton of harassment)
(the last one is present on pretty much all social media, be it pre-Musk Twitter, Bluesky or Tumblr, but im told that it’s especially bad on the fedi)
'ex-4chan users' isn't really an important criteria, especially if you're including the people posting there before 2016. In fact, some hobby boards like /co/, /mu/ and /lit/ were notoriously left-wing. "Ex-" usually means the ones who were smart enough to leave.
But furthermore, calling Mastodon a white supremacist site is just funny. Might as well be saying that about Lemmy.
Also, ex- 4channers and fascists we have found don't necessrily give up the language or ideas from it once they have left, no matter how 'smart' they were.
Both people online and offline we have met that were fash in some way have a certain energy and way of speaking to them that we find disgusting and offputting a lot of the time.
Yes. And no one's going to do anything about it.
Most people are too lazy and thoughtless to stop using it .
The engineers that work there certainly aren't going to stage a coup.
And no one's going to just do violence to Musk.
The engineers that work there certainly aren’t going to stage a coup.
What engineers? Musk fired all of them when he first started.
America is a white-supremacist country.
I know that sounds controversial, but that's the ideals of the president elect of the country, who won the popularity vote.
the USA (and canada, and australia, and new zealand, and many more) are settler colonial states that were born out of mass genocide dictated by white supremacist rhetoric.
these states are white supremacist to their core
That's a silly argument. Biden (aside from being an unrepentant segregationist!) acted as an active agent of white supremacy, and Kamala would have too, just like every President has.
As an aside, it wasn't the majority of the population. It wasn't even the majority of the voting-eligible population. It was like a little over a quarter, I think.
America, the state, is white-supremacist and has been since birth. Absolutely. Although that's not good logic for explaining how. I doubt most voters for Trump did so *because of* his or their racist views, there were plenty of other policies (sorry, ideas and themes) Trump platformed on that appealed to them.
The amount of Democrat supporters again surprised at how non-whites can possibly vote for Trump on a non-trivial scale is a testament to why it's important to understand voting patterns beyond race ideology, beyond "Trump is a disgusting racist, only a white supremacist would vote for them.", especially if you're on the ground trying to organize your community to create the positive changes neither candidate can offer.
World reactions as Donald Trump wins US presidential election
Israel“Congratulations on history’s greatest comeback! Your historic return to the White House offers a new beginning for America and a powerful recommitment to the great alliance between Israel and America. This is a huge victory! In true friendship,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu posted on social media platform X.
Iran
The livelihoods of Iranians will not be affected by the US election, government spokeswoman Fatemeh Mohajerani told reporters after a cabinet meeting in Tehran.
“The US elections are not really our business. Our policies are steady and don’t change based on individuals. We made the necessary predictions before and there will not be change in people’s livelihoods,” she said.
Hamas
Trump’s victory puts to test his earlier statements that he can stop the war in Gaza within hours, Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told the Reuters news agency. The Democratic party’s loss is the natural price for its leadership’s “criminal stance” towards Gaza, Abu Zuhri said, adding that “we urge Trump to learn from [US President Joe] Biden’s mistakes.”
China
“Our policy towards the US is consistent,” Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokeswoman Mao Ning said at a news briefing.
“We will continue to view and handle China-US relations in accordance with the principles of mutual respect, peaceful coexistence and win-win cooperation,” she added.Ukraine
“I appreciate President Trump’s commitment to the ‘peace through strength’ approach in global affairs. This is exactly the principle that can practically bring just peace in Ukraine closer,” President Volodymyr Zelenskyy wrote on X.
United Kingdom
Prime Minister Keir Starmer said, “Congratulations President-elect Trump on your historic election victory. I look forward to working with you in the years ahead. As the closest of allies, we stand shoulder to shoulder in defence of our shared values of freedom, democracy and enterprise.”
NATO
Secretary-General Mark Rutte: “I just congratulated Donald Trump on his election as President of the United States. His leadership will again be key to keeping our Alliance strong. I look forward to working with him again to advance peace through strength through NATO.”
European Union
“The EU and the US are more than just allies. We are bound by a true partnership between our people, uniting 800 million citizens,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said. “So let’s work together on a strong transatlantic agenda that keeps delivering for them.”
India
Congratulating Trump on a “historic election victory”, Prime Minister Narendra Modi posted on X that “as you build on the successes of your previous term, I look forward to renewing our collaboration to further strengthen the India-US Comprehensive Global and Strategic Partnership.”
Russia
“Trump has one useful quality for us: as a businessman to the core, he mortally dislikes spending money on various hangers-on and stupid hanger-on allies, on bad charity projects and on voracious international organisations,” former President Dmitry Medvedev posted on the Telegram messaging app.
World reactions as Donald Trump wins US presidential election
After a turbulent and defiant campaign against Kamala Harris, Trump will become the country’s 47th president.Al Jazeera
An unimpeded conservative government will roll back human rights that took us decades to earn.
Trump elected supreme court officials necessary to defeat roe v wade. He put the people in power capable of rolling those rights back.
Women's rights is just the beginning. Every member of American society will have their basic human rights threatened during this term.
Why on God's green fucking earth would you think that only the rhetoric is different? Please answer this question and do not skip it.
my pronouns are right in my name. don't "bro" me.
i'm not "happy about self harm", that's obviously silly. i just value the lives of non-u.s. citizens. any weakening of the united states will mean a chance for other nations to finally be free of our boot on their neck.
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Harris would have written a strongly worded letter, trump will write a supportive tweet. Both had the same policy on Gaza and Israel.
Thats what you people fail to understand. Genocide doesn't get better. There isn't a lesser evil option that contains genocide.
Biden is a genocidal fascist. Harris promised to be a genocidal fascist for the majority of her campaign. Trump is a genocidal fascist.
You're just angry you might also be a victim, instead of the browns you think are too stupid, too subhuman, to understand their words and actions.
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a majority of people in the u.s. are, so it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility.
and you don't need to be from a place to claim its team as yours. people do it with sports all the time. this is no different. but fine: i'm sorry blue team decided supporting genocide mattered more than winning votes.
no but actually, i love how you liberals all pretend to give a shit about marginalized groups until the instant they don't bow and scrape for you anymore. then you're just as bad as the worst republican.
you deserve death just like they do.
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"Nationwide, on average, 79% of U.S. adults are literate in 2022. 21% of adults in the US are illiterate in 2022. 54% of adults have a literacy below sixth-grade level. 21% of Americans 18 and older are illiterate in 2022." according to this random source crossrivertherapy.com/research…
your fetishes are not my interest. you attempting to lump people who oppose the u.s. with people who support trump is. you're not even from here, you plainly lack any advanced understanding of politics, so why do you think you should be allowed to speak? particularly unopposed?
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you're not fooling anyone with this bullshit. you already played your hand, nazi. die fucking screaming.
this is you.
e: except to people who don't even support trump. so actually, you are even worse.
Don't blame the left for the failings of the moderate right. Just like Biden before her, Harris spent the campaign appealing to theoretical disenfranchised Republicans and confidently ignoring the calls for action from the left. She even abandoned some of Bidens more left leaning campaign promises along the way (her climate policy was a clear back step). On top of that we had no primary, which however flawed, shapes the campaign in the image of the some voters and solidifies support for the candidate.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the two candidates were equivalent, but it is easy to see why people might be feeling disenfranchised and might just not vote, and elect instead to hide from it all.
Anecdotally, I stopped engaging with election news around the dem primary, when everyone was very excited, so I could vote for Harris without thinking about the baggage that would come later. It was all just overwhelming, and I'd call myself a pretty engaged and resilient voter normally.
All that to say, remember the humans who voted or didnt are the ones with ethics and empathy. I'm not sure you can say the same about the ones who voted for the fascist.
An unimpeded conservative government will roll back human rights that took us decades to earn.
Sounds like a fundamentally broken and unfixable system if the work of literal generations for things that are internationally recognized as correct can be undone in a couple of years.
Trump elected supreme court officials necessary to defeat roe v wade
The Ds had multiple opportunities to address this. They punted on all of them, from making nominations to rejecting nominations to expanding the court. They chose exactly none of these options over the last 12 years.
He put the people in power capable of rolling those rights back.
No he didn't. Congress did.
Women’s rights is just the beginning. Every member of American society will have their basic human rights threatened during this term.
They all have been already. Did you forget McCarthyism? How about the black felon rate? The black incarceration rate? The national incarceration rate? Slave labor? (California voted overwhelmingly to maintain prison slave labor) How about disparate health outcomes for non-whites? Educational outcomes? Wealth outcomes? Homelessness?
Every member of American society has had their basic human rights threatened for the last 200 years except for that still quite small group of white people.
Why on God’s green fucking earth would you think that only the rhetoric is different? Please answer this question and do not skip it.
Because the Kamala literally said the only difference between her and Biden would be that she would appoint a Republican to her cabinet? Because Pelosi said we want a strong Republican party? Because the Ds have done literally nothing to stop this so-called "threat to democracy"? Because under Biden solitary confinement of migrants, including infants and toddlers, increased? Because Kamala told migrants "Don't come"? Because military surplus being transferred to domestic police continued unabated under Biden? Because the foreign policy continues to be destruction and devastation and nuclear brinksmanship regardless of party in charge? Because there are no solutions to the economic crises that protect the ideology of privatization? Because the Ds have had multiple opportunities in the last 40 years to codify Roe into law and chose not to so they could continue campaigning on the issue? Because the Ds will tell you to your face that the Rs are rabid fascist authoritarians and then still go to lunch with them, high five them on the legislative floor, and have dance parties? Because the Ds and Rs come together on the regular to feed the war machine and the money machine, even to the point of bypassing the filibuster temporarily during the exact same session where the Ds said they can do nothing about the filibuster?
Because all of the fucking evidence is that literally the only difference is the lens you're looking through and where and how the harm falls and how it sounds when it falls?
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Why do you people think you could negotiate with Harris? Biden and the Dems leadership have done nothing but override popular positions. The beloved vp of the Harris campaign, the most progressive actual dem to ever run for that position, fucking called the military on civilians instead of doing anything about police brutality in his state.
Also if you're willing to accept genocide on the idea you might be spared if you do, you're a Nazi. That was the Nazi excuse. "We need to kill them so we can be spared."
You libs are deeply unserious. How the fuck can Kamala be reasoned with? The same Copmala that said the US army needs to be the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world.
Also, THE DEMOCRATS FUNDED THE GENOCIDE.
Hitler 1 and Hitler 2 cannot be reasoned with.
No, he clearly wanted Kamala Harris, actually.
twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1…
Congratulations @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris. Joe, we’ve had a long & warm personal relationship for nearly 40 years, and I know you as a great friend of Israel. I look forward to working with both of you to further strengthen the special alliance between the U.S. and Israel.
They sure brought positive change, right?
i've heard this is an issue for some folks. unfortunate! thanks for reminding me, though in this case the person in question was kind enough to clear up any potential misunderstanding by going on to be a big ol' piece of shit.
I mean there's a 99% chance Pierre wins.
I'm already stockpiling my porn so he can't take it away from me. Will be horrifying to see whatever digital ID spying system he comes up with. So much for being anti-overreach and pro-freedom.
it is easy to see why people might be feeling disenfranchised and might just not vote
And now they get to see the results of their letting perfect get in the way of good.
I mean there's a 99% chance Pierre wins.
Sadly true.
Hopefully we can at least hold him to a minority.
Given how allergic the conservatives seem to be (since at least Harper's days) about working cooperatively with any other party, a minority parliament ought to be able to minimize the damage. I hope.
I'm willing to try one more time with you. After that, I'll need to reclaim my time and be productive where I can.
Your point was that after electing Trump, the only thing that changes is "rhetoric, the only thing that matters to some people", and I disagreed by citing examples of how our rights were rolled back during his previous term. This means I am saying, "you're wrong - it's not just rhetoric that changes. It's also our rights as Americans."
I understand that you're severely critical of the Democratic party, but are you really willing to say that the only measurable change to our society during a second Trump term is rhetoric? It's going to get a lot of people killed, man. You should care about that.
I won't get pulled into the weeds with you. Either backpedal or admit that you were wrong, or I'm leaving the conversation.
the destruction of America in any form other than total global annihilation is an enormous and unequivocal positive
Trump getting elected isn't positive, we do not like trump, however if this directly causes the complete collapse of the united states then I'm all for it
“Leave me out of your suicide cult,” they say while literally perpetuating the suicide cult of capitalism and posting a cute little bicycle meme completely oblivious to the hypocrisy, projection, and irony.
You can’t make this shit up, folks.
I’m willing to try one more time with you.
Oh how gracious! Thank you!
Your point was that after electing Trump, the only thing that changes is “rhetoric, the only thing that matters to some people”, and I disagreed by citing examples of how our rights were rolled back during his previous term. This means I am saying, “you’re wrong - it’s not just rhetoric that changes. It’s also our rights as Americans.”
Yeah, I'm aware. And as it turns out ALL of the things you can cite for Trump are ALSO things you can cite for NOT TRUMP, as I did by citing examples of how our rights are rolled back, attacked, diminished, and destroyed under prior administrations including Biden's.
This means I am saying "our rights" are constantly being harmed regardless of who is in office and that the only thing that changes is the framing and lens, which includes the rhetoric as well as the particular strategies of harm that result in harm being targeted in specific ways. It's not less harm under Democrats, it's not less harm under NOT TRUMP, it's just different framing.
I understand that you’re severely critical of the Democratic party
If that's your understanding, then you're not understanding. I'm severely critical of the entire American project along its entire continuum of existence and absolutely every single leader that has ever been elected. I'll take that one step further so you understand how far off you are - I denounce the entirety of the colonial system that gave birth to and is continued by the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the rest of the British Commonwealth abroad, and the foreign holdings of all European countries, their leaders, their parties-in-power, their owning classes, and their supporting militaries, academies, religious institutions, and NGOs.
Do you get it now?
but are you really willing to say that the only measurable change to our society during a second Trump term is rhetoric? It’s going to get a lot of people killed, man. You should care about that.
I CHALLENGE you to attempt to catalog the number of people who died as a result of each administration for the last 20 administrations and see if you can find ANY evidence that who is president matters at all along that dimension. Clinton bombed Yugoslavia. Bush destroyed Iraq. Obama destroyed Libya. The Afghanistan affair spanned 20 fucking year. Ukraine is the direct result of the US arming and training Ukraine and expanding nuclear NATO as part of a project that started under Clinton. Trump literally was the first president to approve arms transfers to Ukraine as part of the escalation ladder that led to Biden overseeing the continued expansion of NATO. But it was under Obama that John McCain (R) and Victoria Nuland (?D?) went to Ukraine to participate in the violent transfer of power that started with training and organizing fascists and ended with Right Sector storming the capitol with gun drawn.
And that's to say nothing of the non-stop destruction of water, land, and food of the indigenous people across the Americas, the residential schools that were overseen by both parties over many decades, the forced sterilization overseen by both parties over many decades, the incarceration and ensnaring-in-poverty of the black population overseen by both parties over many decades.
I won’t get pulled into the weeds with you. Either backpedal or admit that you were wrong, or I’m leaving the conversation.
What the fuck kind of discourse do you think this is where what I want is to continue a conversation with someone who thinks they are fundamentally correct without doubt and simultaneously believes their engagement is so desirable that withdrawing it is an effective gambit.
Fuck off
IF the elections are rigged by the MIC to wrap fait accompli into a cohesive and digestable narrative, the surrender of Ukraine is one of those things that might have required Trump at the helm for it to be believable. He's anti-China and anti-Arab so he can just as easily maintain the existing war drives, but he's also the cover necessary to let Ukraine fall and continue the hollowing out of Europe.
I don't think they're rigged. But if they were...
the one who might have been able to be reasoned with
You misunderstand the Democrats' foreign policy if you think this.
Read a few books on international relations by members of the Biden-Harris administration and their mentors, friends, and predecessors. They are ideologically committed to US supremacy and hegemony internationally, at whatever cost. Broadly, this ideological tendency is called liberal (as in capitalist) internationalism and it is about preserving the "rules based" international order in which the U.S. is explicitly to remain indefinitely as the world's sole hegemonic power. In this world view, the US is in the unique position of being able to be the arbiter of world affairs, due to its post-WII economic and military might and advantageous geographical position (easy access to both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans and lack of powerful neighbors) providing the US an unprecedented ability to govern worldwide. This supposedly makes the US the "only" world power capable of preserving international "peace" so long as no rival power is allowed to rise, particularly in Eurasia. The rise of a rival power to US hegemony is seen as a disastrous outcome because it will (supposedly) plunge the world back into WWI-style chaos. Overall, in their view, "order" (unipolarity) is superior to "chaos" (multipolarity), and "US-led order" is superior to all other forms of order, as in their view the US-led order is the only order capable of enforcing world peace, which they absurdly claim is what the US has been doing all this time since WWII.
One of the reasons they hate Trump so much is that he's not from this ideological school; he's an opportunist first and foremost and therefore has a chaotic effect on this US-dominated international order's strategic imperatives. Trump can only be reasoned with on the basis of his opportunism, which will basically follow the whims of himself and his cronies, whatever those whims may be. The liberal internationalists can only be reasoned with in the framework of the long-term viability of US global hegemony, and their behaviors and goals are relatively more predictable as they have their own body of theory explaining all of that, which we can read (for example in the works of Brzezinski of the Carter administration, or Blinken of the current administration). To them, Trump is like a drunk driver who grabbed the wheel of the empire, because of his "America First" policies which they regard as short-sighted in that they play on various populist demands while ignoring and in some regards rejecting international "responsibility" of managing world affairs and suppressing rivals, (potentially) endangering the empire's long-term stability. He messes up their timetables, finances, and commitments, that's really the only thing about him they truly can't abide. The fascist society he wants at home is the one they already created for others abroad, and which already has long existed for many at home regardless. Their "fear" is that the system of global US dominance they created will crash before they can get it back on track. They really do not care about the fascism part, which will not really affect them like it affects normal citizens.
This is all to say that "reasoning" with Democrats over Gaza would always have been impossible. Throughout the decades, they have dragged their feet on the issue, shedding a crocodile tear or two when the situation looks too bloody in the international spotlight, making tactical concessions occasionally, but all ultimately with a long-term strategy of allowing Palestine to be gradually whittled down, in which their ideal is that Palestinians stop resisting and Israel is ultimately triumphant in its suppression of Palestinian sovereignty and the issue conveniently "goes away" forever, a past tragedy they can pretend to be sad about while enjoying some newfound financial flexibility when it comes to the costs of maintaining and upgrading their unsinkable aircraft carrier Israel. Blinken didn't give a damn about Palestinians in 1982, he essentially wrote that even though Israel was aiding a bit of massacres here and there it was still just a baby democracy that needs our support, and surely "someday" would be held accountable for its excesses. And now? Blinken is Secretary of State, giving Netanyahu a hug and requesting more funds for genocide and dressing his kid up as Zelensky for a Halloween party the next day. With people like this peppering every Dem administration's top leadership for decades, whose careers all began long ago and whose records of views and behaviors are there for all of us to see, and likewise with their neocon friends, cousins, and business partners in every Republican administration salivating over war with Iran, the prospects of "reasoning" with any of them over Palestine are pretty much zero.
Who is we?
The party can't fail, the party can only be failed.
The Democrats fucked this up. They tried to scare and shame people into voting for them while providing nothing. Weird how that didn't work.
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The issue isn't how people used their votes. The issue is that 20 million people didn't show up to vote.
With the math available, every single Democratic voter could have voted 3rd party and Trump would still have won. Third party voters had little to no effect on this election, outside of those who were swaying to say don't vote at all. 50 to 100 thousand third party votes from each state just don't make the numbers needed for the E.C. votes.
We needed voters, period. They didn't show up.
The war in Ukraine will come to an end the same way the war in Gaza will.
Russia and Israel will own the land in a matter of years. The death toll from the two wars will likely reach 1 million lives lost, and for Gaza and Ukraine the war of freedom from their fascist governments will be lost, with full support from the American government.
There will be no peace talks. There will be no two state solutions. It will be bombs, warfare, and erasure of these two cultures.
I could give you what I want, equal rights and fair treatment, but that’d be a bit white colonialist.
What's wrong with you? Touting your virtuous heart at the same time as just being openly racist
Racism is also no longer real now that we've got an explicitly white nationalist president, this solves the contradiction.
If you're serious, cause I see you're a different account and tbh I have no idea where the context is right now: From a postcolonial perspective the concept of moral naturalism, or "objective good," looks damn close to the cultural superiority that was often used to excuse colonial behavior. The way it managed to contradict so many things at once in the conversation was darkly amusing, and I thought it might bait a response that would show inconsistencies in the views being expressed while also being rude enough to let out some of my current frustration at the proudly self-destructive behavior that's popped up like mushrooms with Trump's win. Happened last time that old white man won, too, and soon everyone was whining. How tf did it get worse. Either goldfish memory or a bunch of tadpoles.
White colonial ideology has historically been violently opposed to "equal rights and fair treatment," merely proclaiming such things while devising excuses to exclude people from it. You are speaking as though the non-white savages would need to have "equal rights and fair treatment" imposed upon them by whites, which is just being a classic racist piece of shit.
"When I'm mad about orang man, I do a racism" is not a compelling excuse.
Only millions of people that were simply born in the wrong place. Only a world superpower potentially turning into an autocratic regime in support of other tyrants.
But sure, other than the existential threat of the largest exporter of culture and most powerful military on earth in a country that has a history of imperialism and warmongering falling under the control of an autocratic regime of fascists, sure. Nothing of value.
what do you mean turning into, it already was all of what you just said... also for the second paragraph, it would have also been true under Harris.
I understand your scared, however that should not be a reason to devorce yourself from the material reality of the situation
I read "weep for everyone everywhere" as more of a "newly fascist US is going to mess the rest of the world up" sort of thing, not as an "everyone loves America" sort of thing. And then you came in with accelerationism.
(Yes, yes, I know. They were already Nazis in your opinion, or whatever)
I'm not doing acceleration. You libs really gotta figure out the difference between the layers of reality. This is happening. I didn't vote for Trump. I didn't advocate for Trump to be elected on the grounds that it would accelerate collapse. But here we are. It's happening. I'm not going to fucking weep for America. That doesn't make me an accelerationist.
"Newly fascist US" is pretty ridiculous when you consider the 1939 Nazi rally at MSG in NYC, Operation Paperclip, Operation Gladio, the USA selecting former Nazi officers to lead NATO, Hitler's explicit writings in Mein Kampf of following the American model of indigenous genocide, black slavery, and apartheid, the USA's repeated veto of the UN resolution to condemn the worshiping of Nazis, the neverending free-speech protections of white supremacist and neonazis simultaneous with the neverending police murder and brutality of black and brown people, etc, etc, etc.
And Canada doesn't get a pass on this either. They, too, glorify Nazis while raping and murdering indigenous people.
Weep for America.... fuck right off.
I've literally seen you accused of illiteracy multiple times in this post ALONE.
Perhaps your literacy problem is bigger than we thought.
I'm pretty pessimistic, I fear that it may be a long time yet with things getting even worse as it goes before the US collapses, regardless of who won this election. I guess I feel like the collapse of the US is too good to be true
I never said I was happy trump won, I'm just hoping for a silver lining, I think you got lost in the back and forth here
Mostly by one other person, who also only speaks in insults. For whatever reason, that's most of you folks, and I know you tear each other down with even higher efficiency.
Have fun with that. Goodbye.
Honestly, at this point, they deserve every single bad thing that happens to them.
Unfortunately those bad things will also trickle down for the rest of the world and I'm so tired of that
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It just speaks to how dogshit the Dem strategy of chasing the <10% of republicans who claimed they didn't like Trump was.
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Removed or made it harder to vote on/near campuses is a big one. Along with lowering number of places to vote.
Plus some states moving away from early voting or mail in ballots.
Not the candidate running a terrible campaign or the dnc not doing an actual primary?
There's so many reasons for this and your just gonna blame the voters the party always drives away?
Here’s a list of progressive policies both foreign and domestic that supermajorities of both democrats and republicans support.
What’s that? You’d rather support genocide and brag about being endorsed by Dick Cheney?
You do you, I guess……. You’ll still get your weird blue maga votes i suppose.
I blame people like you.
Nuke the gay, commie whales and build a bomb for Jesus!
I love your username you traitor!
It seems you’ll blame anyone but the Democratic party itself. This was their election to lose. Beating a right-wing clown like Trump should be an easy win, but they lost to him two times out of three.
And they brought this upon themselves.
- How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately "elevated" Donald Trump with its "pied piper" strategy
- Court Concedes DNC Had the Right to Rig Primaries Against Sanders
- Democratic Party’s choice of Harris was undemocratic − and the latest evidence of party leaders distrusting party voters
How is it that you, me, everybody, everybody's cousin, and also the FBI were all fully aware that Trump & Co were guaranteed going to try and cheat the election, and yet the first moment all the republican electors come out and say "Yep Trump wins!! We promise!!" everyone is just accepting this as fact?
I have severe doubts about the validity of these numbers for at least the next several weeks. Republicans have proven repeatedly that they are not going to play fair in any fashion. I don't believe a damn thing they tell me without receipts for it and we've got until January to produce the receipts.
It seems you’ll blame anyone but the Democratic party itself. This was their election to lose. Beating a right-wing clown like Trump should be an easy win, but they lost to him two times out of three.
And they brought this upon themselves.
- How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately "elevated" Donald Trump with its "pied piper" strategy
- Court Concedes DNC Had the Right to Rig Primaries Against Sanders
- Democratic Party’s choice of Harris was undemocratic − and the latest evidence of party leaders distrusting party voters
The last time the Dems held a primary was in 2008.
Why the fuck do people upvote this misinformation? They held primaries literally this year, which is information everyone can trivially look up
Genocide defenders thinking they have the moral high ground.
Consider seeing Palestinians as human first before you start talking about human rights.
Bombs were going to get shipped to Gaza regardless of which candidate won the presidency. At least Harris had promised to negotiate a ceasefire -- Trump just told Netanyahu to hurry up and finish the job. But because of YOU not voting, millions of trans people in the united states are going to die too.
But leftists never seem to care about that.
It's blindingly obvious to anyone with more than one brain cell that you're a troll, so I'm going to do something I should have done a long time ago.
Later, moron.
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Even if every single leftist voted for Kamala, she would still lose; there aren't enough leftists in this country to restore that blue wall.
She lost because of the genocide and alienating her base while trying to become a diet republican.
Netanyahu is already doing whatever he wants and you're doing apologetics for genocide. The current Biden administration is complicit in genocide and no amount of crystal ball gazing is gonna change that. Israel is currently doing everything they ever dreamed of doing. All the libs claiming Trump will get Israel to nuke Gaza are absolutely absurd. They're no going to nuke land they want to steal and settle, are they?
I'm sick of this shit. The two Amerikkkan parties are identical on foreign policy
Oh they are are they? Better let the dude explicitly in favor of Israel's approach win over the woman who wasn't mean enough to Israel I guess. And fuck all the other points, we've got standards.
Man, idk if I'm mad or amused. You either don't live in the US and your stance didn't change anything, or you do and going by your pronouns you're about to reap all the rewards.
smug liberal asshole fantasizes about me getting put in the trans camps because I recognize that both Amerikkkan parties are complicit in genocide. I don't know where you've been, but Biden and Harris were shaking hands with Bibi just in July. The arms shipments haven't ceased, no sanctions on Israel have been proposed, nothing is being done besides token efforts that fail on purpose.
"wasn't mean enough to Israel I guess" Is it so much to ask that someone not complicit in genocide be the president? How about this, if the Democrats are so open and willing in their genocide of Palestinians, what hope does that hold for people like me? How can I trust any of you liberals? "Oh, we'll bomb Palestinian women and children, but don't worry you trans and gay folk, you're fine."
Yeah ok, except I remember the "first they came for the communists" poem and it's certainly correct about both of our stupid bloodthirsty parties. I'm old enough to have protested against the Iraq War and I've personally watched how current Democrats have simply become the Republicans. Harris fucking accepted an endorsement from Dick Cheney, one of the most evil bastards who ever lived. Slaughtered a million plus Iraqis. And yet here you are concocting a situation where only one side will put me in camps or whatever because I recognize the simple reality that the Demokkkrats and Republikkkans are both explicitly genocidal against my Palestinian comrades
why are you people like this, you people never learn anything. Fuck off. The Dead Kennedys were right about everything.
This "frothing mess of a comment"? LOL, it was clear, coherent, consistent, well written, and it took you to task on how slimey and ignorant not to mention hypocritical you are, so you call it a "frothing mess." I wonder who is really 
But no surprise the only thing you're "getting out of it" isn't something she even implied.
Cope and seethe genocidal piece of shit
I hope you cry all the crocodilian tears you couldn't spare for the thousands of dead children
Will this result make that better?
No, seriously. If that's the biggest issue, to the exclusion of all others - does this event make it better, or worse?
i make no distinction between facist and facist-enablers. nevertheless, lemmy convinced me to find someone to vote swap with and i did in nevada.
the american people chose facism; so go ask them.
lack of focus on certain demographics
There was no "lack of focus" lmao. They focused very hard on telling every demographic that matters to go fuck themselves in different ways. Arabs were told genocide is good, Latinos were told immigration is bad, and black people were told that if they wanted to not be poor, they should buy crypto and start a business.
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We need Genocide Joe to commit Genocide to win the electionNobody should replace Skeletor Genocide Joe, he is the incumbent that is the bestest candidate
Actually Kamala needs to run without holding primaries. It is too late now!
Kamala must promise keep supporting Genocide, if she doesn't she will lose
Kamala needs Liz Cheney to win over voters.
Actually the economy is bad so it does not matter what Democrats would have done
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Surely it had nothing to do with denying the humanity, feelings and fears of white males for decades, especially the poor ones.
Yeah, I'm sure it was about the latest hype war thing everyone gets so invested in yet no one does anything about beyond participating in thinly veiled socialization rituals and including symbols of support into their wardrobes and memes.
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war thing everyone gets so invested in yet no one does anything about beyond participating in thinly veiled socialization rituals and including symbols of support into their wardrobes and memes.
Maybe, but I don't feel particularly invested in any war thing.
Polarization does get to me sometimes, but I feel like my contributions regarding that issue constitute legitimate efforts.
It's still projection. You are incapable of caring about the genocide of millions, and so you assume that everyone else is too.
P.S.
What humanity? What humanity do the sons of settlers have? What matter are the feelings they've used to rule over all and sundry for practically all of recorded western history in some form or another? What "white men" fear sickens me, because all that cohort has EVER seemed to fear was not being on top. Crackers fear that we would treat them as they have treated us; and honestly at this point, it'd be warranted if we did.
That is 'the quiet part you won't say out loud'. That is what the cohort you currently bear the water of fears. That you want me to shed tears for that genuinely sickens me, you fuckin loser.
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Honestly I don't believe that; but even that's true, you're still carrying their water; so you may as well be white.
We're not fucking friends; and I don't claim you as kinfolk. "Humanity of the settler", get the actual fuck out.
Ermm.. should i post pics of my unibrow? My post history is 90% spanish. My entry point is from a chilean server in which I actively participate... Why is this even relevant though?
The only water I'm carrying is the one that nurtures universal empathy. Maybe you should take a sip. It's very healing.
Ok, non-friend. I'm sorry for attempting to extend consideration towards you.
Have a nice day and I'm sorry if I upset you.
Yep, us collective Americans can just all agree to vote third party... Except the reds won't, so you just advocated red genocide.
... They can. Easily
I don't know where you're from but third party candidates have never won in the US because of fptp voting.
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Who cares about genocide and actual demonization of immigrants.
I mean... Do you? What things are you doing to address these issues?
Edit: Also, did you assume I'm a white male? I'm not.
The most basic thing I’ve done was demanding the genocidal party stops doing the genocide if they want my support which I’ve done since oct-8, their refusal to listen doesn’t change my demands or how serious I was in those convictions.
How's that been working for you?
Did I?
I believe you did. You referred to me "doing it to them (other people)". I'm other people.
You pushed the white male victimhood narrative
Did I? I didn't, in any way, make a judgement on the value or ethical implications of the dehumanization of white men (even the poor ones). I didn't imply it was right or wrong. I merely suggested, sarcastically, that it was a big factor in losing the election.
You seem to be under the impression that this dehumanization is warranted, though. Do you think this mindset helps the problems that our societies and democracies are currently facing?
Do you think ranking people regarding their levels of assumed victimization due to ethnic, sexual or identity backgrounds is something desirable in general?
Food for thought, my friend.
Maybe do some self reflection and growth
This is universally good advice.
The blue genocidal party lost just as I told them they would if they didn’t listen and stop doing genocide. So I guess I’ve been vindicated in my demands they stop.
Do you think this will have an impact on the actual genocide, though? Do you feel like you've done enough? Can you fairly and honestly say this is something you care about if this is your only action regarding this problem?
Are you really going to debate bro me on whether I assumed you to be a white male or not?
Yes, this is definitely what I want to do with my afternoon (this is actually not sarcastic). Did I remove any relevant context? Please elaborate if you care to continue this surreal tangent.
You placed “white males” as a standalone group in your comment.
I did.
white males are not seperate from other groupings of peopledismissing the struggles of other groups
Any chance on giving that statement second thought? I think you'll find something interesting.
Oh, you just are a debate bro
I'm unfamiliar with the term. Maybe if you clarify I can tell you if I feel identified with the definition.
this is when you, sarcastically, pushed the white male victimhood narrative.
Erm... So by me suggesting their vote was lost, i implied they were victims? I'm sorry but I disagree.
my rebuttal of the white male victimhood narrative signals to you that I support white males being victims
No. I think you may have a fixation with victimhood and its implications on the value and humanity of people, and I think you've pushed this fixation in every point during this exchange, projecting it into my arguments.
rank white males at the top of a victimization totem pole.
This is another example of the former. You seem to be under the impression that victimization is a ranking system.
Maybe I should clarify. Under my perspective, everyone deserves to be listened to, have their humanity accepted and treated with respect (even in situations of conflict and mutual destruction). You, me, white males, bolivians, jews, palestines, fundies, tankies, billionaires, criminals, war criminals, nazis, hitler, genghis khan. Everyone.
The reason behind this is that without that basic extension of empathy, all possibilities of consensus are lost before a conversation even begins. Do I always extend these basic forms of empathy to everyone? No, sometimes I'm a dick, but I do try.
My original point was about the consequences of the lack of willingness to convey these basic forms of empathy to white males in the election (this doesn't imply i consider them victims. I don't.)
What I'm currently trying to convey now is that victimization is not a ranking system, friend. And voting or not voting for someone is not an effective course of action to solve anything you truly care about.
I'm sorry people you care about are suffering. ❤
Edit: I don't think I did, and I honestly have no use for information regarding your sex, gender or ethnicity.
Thank you for taking the time to reply to my comment thoughtfully. I understand our disagreements better now, and I apologize if I came across as arguing in bad faith.
I'm sure you understand my perspective better now, and I appreciate you addressing it with respect.
Peace to you and all those you care about.
A solution to facilitate the writing and execution of E2E tests understandable by any human
Discovering your application by usecase validation. Make test writing fast, understandable by any human understanding English or French. Open source under MIT license.
[Cross-posted from https://programming.dev/post/21401242]
GitHub - e2e-test-quest/uuv: Solution to facilitate the writing and execution of E2E tests understandable by any human
Solution to facilitate the writing and execution of E2E tests understandable by any human - e2e-test-quest/uuvGitHub
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This sounds neat. But we’ve used protractor with Gherkin years ago. Even at my current job we use BDD a lot. What’s new here? The comparison table is honestly very Apple-like: just pick something you know you’ll beat and dumb the comparison down a lot to leave little room for fact-checking.
I’m not saying this is bad software. I’m saying it’s not being sold well to someone that has been in this space for a while. It seems to mainly sell to people that have never heard of Gherkin/Cucumber before.
Just out of curiosity, and I don't know anything about testing.
Is uuv is equivalent to Playwright + Cucumber?
Att inte satsa på arbetarklasspolitik innebär valförlust. Det ser ut som om Donald Trump kommer att vinna det US-amerikanska valet. Dessutom får republikanerna också en majoritet i senaten. och i representanthuset. Valet är ett misslyckande för demokraterna. För republikanerna kommer att vinna valet.
US lawmaker urges investigation into China’s chipmaker SMIC over alleged Huawei ties
A top Republican lawmaker has accused the Biden administration of not doing enough to prevent China’s Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation (SMIC) from strengthening the country’s chipmaking industry and military-industrial complex.Michael McCaul, chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, urged US Commerce Department agents to visit SMIC’s facilities and check whether the company is illegally producing chips for Huawei Technologies, the sanctioned telecommunications equipment company seen as a national champion within China’s chip industry.
In a November 4 letter seen by Reuters, McCaul described what he called “growing bipartisan frustration” that the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) had not acted on reports of Huawei’s efforts to evade US export controls.
McCaul said SMIC’s breakthroughs – including its advanced chip in a Huawei smartphone, and expected production of over a million artificial intelligence (AI) processors for Huawei – are a “smoking gun” for a violation and could help China surpass the US in AI.
The Commerce Department said it had received McCaul’s letter and would respond through “appropriate channels”. Last week, in response to similar criticism, it said that no Commerce Department had been tougher on China.
SMIC did not immediately respond to requests for comment, nor did Huawei.
The Chinese embassy in Washington said in a statement that “certain US politicians” were “overstretching the concept of national security” and politicising “science and technology and economic and trade issues”.
China to import Russian tech and expertise to boost low-altitude defences
Deal signed between Chinese firm and Russian aviation engineering institution comes as Beijing and Moscow step up military cooperation.A Chinese security company and a Russian university have had “extensive interactions” over importing Russian aviation technology, including low-altitude counter-drone technology, according to Chinese state media.
A Chinese company specialising in emergency technology and security services – Guangxi Xinhang Shengjie Emergency Industrial Park Management Company signed a deal on Monday with Russia’s Ufa State Aviation Technical University, a leading centre for aviation engineering, to bring in low-altitude drone defence technology, China News Service reported on Tuesday.
“China and Russia held extensive interactions on topics such as bringing in Russian aviation technology and low-altitude drone defence technology,” the report said. The signing took place in Wuzhou in Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region in southern China.
Under the deal, the Russian university will send experts to China to provide long-term support in areas such as technology, talent training and teaching, according to the report.
The Chinese side also planned to boost its low-altitude equipment manufacturing operations by adapting Russian heavy-lift helicopters and drone technology, it said.
It comes as China and Russia have stepped up military cooperation in recent years amid pressure from the United States and its allies.
Last month, Washington announced sanctions against two Chinese companies accused of cooperating with Russia to design and build long-range attack drones.
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in reply to queermunist she/her • • •You can blame Democrats all you want. This is a cause of Americans being idiots and bigots.
I don't wanna hear another damn word about Palestine from young leftists, after they stayed home. You all need to shut the fuck up with your moralizing and bitching, when you won't even vote. Enjoy Trump, morons.
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in reply to Dessalines • • •Actually, 90 dems boycotted that speech. This also deflects from my argument that the situation in Gaza is going to become far more dire in a few months.
To answer your question, though: You know how there's around 2 million Gazans still alive? Starving and desperate, but still alive. It's not just us, but the whole international community that is responsible for that, otherwise Netanyahu could've implemented his "General's Plan" six months ago. Nothing except international leverage can maintain those lives. Leverage is not free, though, it must be purchased somehow. People do not just listen to you otherwise, unless they get something from it. While it would be theoretically possible to attempt sanctions, doing this to an ally during war would be political suicide domestically, resulting in a different administration and reversal of the policy. This would result in their eventual deaths anyway, simply after a delay.
Not that our current timeline is looking any differently, admittedly. But actually saving them is not nearly as simple as everyone seems to think, as if s
... show moreActually, 90 dems boycotted that speech. This also deflects from my argument that the situation in Gaza is going to become far more dire in a few months.
To answer your question, though: You know how there's around 2 million Gazans still alive? Starving and desperate, but still alive. It's not just us, but the whole international community that is responsible for that, otherwise Netanyahu could've implemented his "General's Plan" six months ago. Nothing except international leverage can maintain those lives. Leverage is not free, though, it must be purchased somehow. People do not just listen to you otherwise, unless they get something from it. While it would be theoretically possible to attempt sanctions, doing this to an ally during war would be political suicide domestically, resulting in a different administration and reversal of the policy. This would result in their eventual deaths anyway, simply after a delay.
Not that our current timeline is looking any differently, admittedly. But actually saving them is not nearly as simple as everyone seems to think, as if some total boycott of arms to Israel would somehow quickly lead to an Israeli military defeat. Advanced munitions are not necessary for a genocide, it can be done with napalm and the withholding of food. This would not be expensive. Nor are advanced munitions necessary for the continued survival of the IDF, which numbered around 400k strong in the initial stages of the war.
Defeating this genocide is unfortunately far, far harder than people make it out to be, due to a powerful faction of domestic support among American citizens and AIPAC lobbyists.
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in reply to Carrolade • • •No. There is one country giving 17 Billion dollars in weaponry and aid to Israel. Don't blame the "international community" for the genocide being funded and armed by your party. Your own party is opposing the current resolutions in the UN to denounce this genocide.
Israel would quickly go the way of south africa without US support. Will anything make US democrats stop pointing fingers at other people, and start accepting blame for their own actions?
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This is nothing more than faith. Israel trades with many countries, including India, where anti-Muslim sentiment is very strong among the ruling Hindu nationalists. US contributions are only a small fraction of their total annual budget. All they would really lose irreplaceably is advanced weaponry.
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