Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War
Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War
Ukrainians are growing increasingly weary of the war with Russia. Gallup's latest surveys of Ukraine show 52% would like to see the war end as soon as possible.by Benedict Vigers (Gallup)
And the rest are not draft eligible I guess..
A story from personal experience: most of my friends from Ukraine wanted the war to end from the very beginning. There was one exception though - a real patriot who considered Zelensky a hero and the best president we've ever had, "Slava Ukraini", "Russians are orcs", you know the type.
What on Earth could make such a patriot change his mind? Just like me he doesn't live in Ukraine, and about a year ago Zelensky started trying hard to forcefully return people from abroad to use as a cannon fodder (thankfully, he failed)... That made him change his opinion very fast :)
And every war supporter out there is the same.. The war is OK, as long as it's not me who is forbidden to leave the country and gets kidnapped off a street to be used as a cannon fodder.
like this
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ likes this.
Don't worry, there are some in Ukraine as well.
My favourite one is currently "Oleksander Leonenko". He seems like a very patriotic guy from Odessa, self-identifies as a "language inspector", his T-shirt print roughly translates to the following: "talk to me in UKRAINIAN, I live in Ukraine and I DON'T UNDERSTAND Russian", etc.
He is bravely defending Ukraine against the invasion of orcs right now!
Ah, wait no, sorry my bad, actually he was detained by conscription officers on 13th (his boyfriend used some extremely weird words when describing the situation - "police illegally kidnapped a person"... Sounds like Russian propaganda if you ask me, this literally never happens in Ukraine, why do Ukrainian sources even share this obvious misinformation...), and on 19th he started asking for donations attempting to raise 500k uah = 12k usd in order to "save his life". Not sure what are those money for, but definitely not for a bribe.
Doubt he's "from" Odesa. The country side around Odesa spawns Ukrainian Nationalists like crazy.
The language wars have been the funniest shit to me since I was a kid in Odesa. Especially with what happened now, half the country goes on Duo Lingo overnight. Having grown up with this stupid shit, it was really funny to immigrate to the US and learn about like the slave trade and Jim Crow, and be like "damn Ukrainians really do love to complain".
Which is heavily ironic because my dad immediately went the other way and just became mildly racist about how "black people be demanding things". Shit's hilarious because it was always like "in 1876 we were forced to cut out our tongues with the Ems decree, and we couldn't celebrate the Taras Sevchenko centennial, and the evil Soviets made Russian the academic lingua franca". But the people who literally couldn't vote until 1964 and couldn't live in certain neighborhoods (even to this day) are entitled.
It's such a silly fucking position because of it's wishy washy historicity once you start to "collect evidence" and ultimately it's like if all complaints of oppression in America by black people were summed up with "they wouldn't let us talk jive".
It's also really funny because if Ukraine fulfills it's wildest EU/NATO/US FREEDOM dreams, in 10 years there will be less Russian and Ukranian than there is now. It will be like Iceland or Ireland where it's fully colonized by capitalist English due to the economic realities, and there will be a large language divide between the younger and older generations in the country. Ukrainians only cling tightly to their traditions for their traditional enemies. They'll gleefully shed all that for Westernization because it's "the way of the world". Sure they'll be the classic holdouts of Galicia, but practically the country will erase its own language and culture much like Iceland and other countries suffering from success under neocolonialism.
I mean, same is true for Russian patriots, no?
Russians abroad always talk about how great the motherland is, but nobody wants to move back there and not just because of the war. Or have you moved back to Russia yet?
nah, I'm not gullible enough to believe stories about DPRK troops fighting in Russia
Yup, so while those people technically volunteer, I wouldn't be so sure that they're volunteering out of their love for the motherland.
Still, I reckon the order of motivation goes: Patriots who fight for the cause > Well-paid volunteers > Conscripts. So you've got that right. Unfortunately, I doubt Ukraine can offer any contractors nearly as much as Russia does.
I do hope there's peace soon, but that's still entirely up to Putin and literally nobody else. I'm pretty sure Ukrainians would be ready to accept a white peace immediately at this point, without even regaining Crimea or anything, but Putin needs to have territorial gains beyond that.
like this
LPS likes this.
There's no such thing as peace talks in this war. Russia wants it all, any Ukrainian who live in Ukraine will be forced into assimilation and I doubt they all want that.
Why? What on Earth could be a reason for doubting people would prefer to live rather than die?? It's literally written right here, in the article, from a western media outlet, that people don't want to fight and avoid it AT ALL COST, people would rather die trying to escape the country to the freedom than die for Zelensky's regime, and there are people on the frontlines just because Zelensky's murderous regime is forcing people to... And you are still "doubting"...
Your friends are maybe spineless cowards I don't know
Yeah yeah yeah, I've heard that before... "If you don't want to fight for MY interests than YOU are a coward". Doesn't work on anyone with at least half a brain, sorry :)
most of my friends from Ukraine wanted the war to end from the very beginning.
Nobody in Ukraine wanted this war to happen at all, but Russia went ahead and invaded them anyway, so they didn't have any real choice in the matter.
don't like this
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ doesn't like this.
so they didn't have any real choice in the matter.
Choice? Let's talk about choice.
We don't have any choice not because of Putin's actions, but because of Zelensky's.
It's his regime that forbids people to leave the country.
It's his regime that kidnaps people off the streets and send them to the meatgrinder every day.
like this
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ likes this.
don't like this
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ doesn't like this.
Would I rather live under Russian rule than die? Yes of course.
And the majority of Ukrainians would prefer that as well. And despite what you're (probably) going to say, this is not just my opinion, this is a fact - Zelensky has to prevent people from leaving the country, he has to kidnap people off the streets just so that there is some cannon fodder to prolong the war. People either hide at home, or run from recruitment officers. People would rather die trying to escape the country than die on a battlefield fighting for Zelensky's regime. And even western medias are writing about it now, it's not taboo anymore. Zelensky tries real hard to convince people that Putin will exterminate Ukrainians. And yet, it's you (probably) who believes him, not the actual people who are supposedly about to be exterminated.
Seriously, just stop for a moment and think - if Russia is as evil as some try to portrait it - why is Zelensky having so much trouble with conscription? Why those stupid stupid Ukrainians don't go and fight for their survival against Putin who is going to destroy them? Maybe, just maybe, it's actually propaganda?
like this
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ likes this.
don't like this
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ doesn't like this.
Unfortunately, as an Estonian, I know people whose families were affected by the forced deportations.
Oh well, I never really said that Russia is good, it has done lots of bad things, including to the Baltic states.
It's just that what Zelensky is doing to us is infinitely worse than what would probably be "under Russian rule".
By the way, how do you feel about Crimean Tatars or the Holodomor? Are those just anti-Russian propaganda too?
Holodomor - my great grandmother lived through it, I have little reason to doubt it or think that it is anti-Russian propaganda, it was terrible.
Crimean Tatars - I'm not very familiar with this topic so I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to (I guess it's the deportations?), but I'm sure it was also indeed a bad thing.
It’s just that what Zelensky is doing to us is infinitely worse than what would probably be “under Russian rule”.
I guess that's true, I'm not a fan of forced conscription and punishable desertion either. But if Russia wins, have you escaped forced conscription for good? Or will you be forced to fight in Putin's next conquest?
For now, you have a chance to build your own country still. Yes there's a lot of corruption and many, many other issues. Yes, the GDP per capita is pretty weak so Ukrainians are better off working abroad. But you still get a say in matters. Zelenskyy the comedian was elected because people were tired of the status quo. Has he fixed everything? Probably not, but he can still be replaced. In the modern day Russian empire you either vote for Putin or your vote doesn't count.
Crimean Tatars - I’m not very familiar with this topic so I’m not sure what exactly you’re referring to (I guess it’s the deportations?), but I’m sure it was also indeed a bad thing.
Yes, I meant the deportations. Russia deported every single one of them because they saw them as a geopolitical threat in Crimea. Here in the Baltics at least it was mostly people with land or nasty back-stabbing neighbours that were deported, not specific ethnic groups generally.
Anyway, I'm glad to see you're not a Russian shill, but an actual person with a real view to the entire issue. Obviously I support your right to not go to war against Russia. But I think just laying down arms isn't a solution either. Of course, I have a vested interest of my own. The more your brothers and sisters weaken Russia, the safer I am too.
don't like this
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ doesn't like this.
But if Russia wins, have you escaped forced conscription for good? Or will you be forced to fight in Putin's next conquest?
Forced conscription in general - probably not.
What Zelensky's doing is not just forced conscription, it's literally kidnapping people off the streets, putting them into vans, often beating them in the process, keeping people in basements for multiple days, etc. and only then sending them to the meatgrinder. It's also has been described in western medias already btw, it's called "busification" if you want to have a read / watch what happens on the Ukrainian streets.
For now, you have a chance to build your own country still. Yes there's a lot of corruption and many, many other issues. Yes, the GDP per capita is pretty weak so Ukrainians are better off working abroad. But you still get a say in matters. Zelenskyy the comedian was elected because people were tired of the status quo. Has he fixed everything? Probably not, but he can still be replaced. In the modern day Russian empire you either vote for Putin or your vote doesn't count.
With Zelenaky in leadership nobody has any say. He is for a long time already an unelected usurper. I am not here to discuss whether voting in Russia is rigged or not, but at least people there can vote, can form political parties. Under Zelensky's regime you simply can't.
I'd love to see my country an indepent and free country, but the first pre-requirement for that is removing Zelensky from power (trialing him for crimes against humanity would be nice, but I know that it would never happen), and then seek a compromise with Russia.
He and his regime are threat #1 to us.
Obviously I support your right to not go to war against Russia.
Thank you.
But I think just laying down arms isn't a solution either.
People should be able to decide for themselves. Zelensky knows it's not on the table for his regime, because apart from a few nationalists (a lot of whom are already dead) nobody is going to fight for his regime.
Of course, I have a vested interest of my own. The more your brothers and sisters weaken Russia, the safer I am too.
This is not a nice thing to say, but at least you're honest about this in contrast to the hypocrites who say that they are "helping us".
With Zelenaky in leadership nobody has any say. He is for a long time already an unelected usurper.
Is this not usually the case during defensive wars?
When the war's over, if he doesn't step down and call an election, you guys are going to have to Gaddafi him in order to keep/restore your democracy I guess.
I am not here to discuss whether voting in Russia is rigged or not, but at least people there can vote, can form political parties.
I mean yeah, but when a certain candidate is able to get over 100% of the votes, you might ask whether or not the elections happening are actually worse than not happening - at least when they don't happen, you're not under any illusions.
This is not a nice thing to say, but at least you’re honest about this in contrast to the hypocrites who say that they are “helping us”.
It's not a nice thing to say, but this is me laying the cards on the table regarding what my position is. If Ukrainians want to fight for their freedom - that's super and you have my full support. If y'all DON'T really want to fight, but are being forced to - I don't think any normal person is happy about it, myself not included, but technically it's still beneficial to millions of non-Ukrainian Eastern Europeans every time a Russian tank is blown up or an actually competent high-level officer killed. I just feel like a lot of people are disingenuous when they say support Ukrainians. Yes, much of the western world supports you guys, but so many of us also have something to gain, even if this is not the main motivation for most people's support.
I bet they do, but the only thing Russia is willing to accept is complete surrender.
That’s not really a negotiation, is it?
Oh it’s you again. 🙄
I’ll say it one more time: demanding complete surrender is not a negotiation.
Can’t wait to skip the copy/pasted “evidence” provided by your bot army.
Upgrade to Freedom! The Switch from Windows 10
Upgrade to Freedom! The Switch from Windows 10
The end of Windows 10 support in October 2025 presents a great opportunity for the Linux community to collectively help users transition their still-function...openSUSE News
like this
Dessalines likes this.
reshared this
Tech Cyborg reshared this.
Took my first steps last night, I flashed a USB stick with Mint Cinnamon and gave it a spin.
Happily using Mint myself, welcome onboard ;)
The big thing it has going for it is that they set up btrfs snapshots out of the box so you can rollback if necessary.
They also do more automated testing than Arch so theoretically it should be more stable.
opensuse was my shortest experiment when i used to distro hop because of how old their software seemed to be. (ie old like debian stable).
this was almost 20 years; has it gotten better?
... nowadays it’s in my top 3 list when I’m suggesting distros to people
same here; but only because of the support like red hat's and canonical's
i was wrong. i misread the article thinking that opensuse was going to turn into an analogue similar to centos stream ending up with suse eventually sun setting opensuse like red hat is doing with centos; but no, they're ARE doing a centos stream like model but it's going to be back and forth between opensuse leap and opensuse tumbleweed.
opensuse is back on the recommended list. lol
how do they do regular updates? how do they do major version upgrades?
I think both of these is a big pain point.
I don't understand, sorry. what I meant is the way you as the user do upgrades. you grab a terminal, elevate and run the system update command (zypper refresh, zypper update). major version upgrades are more complicated.
I can do this sure. But this is not noob friendly the slightest. and the YaST graphical tools don't make it much better either.
I won't say that the update system of windows is good because why the fuck does searching for updates minutes, and other reasons. but the UI of it is much better. it tells you what will it update, it has a button for starting the process, an automatism for it too. there's also a menu for the update history.
Does network work on those distros but not on openSUSE, or network doesn't work at all?
Maybe it's a switch issue? Can you try sudo rfkill and see what's the output?
No problem.
Hmm, if there was a soft-block or a hard-block that would affect all the other distros as well. In that case, trying from a Live ISO would indeed help. Maybe this could be something related to Network Manager. Can you check interfaces with ip a?
Also check if Network Manager running with systemctl status NetworkManager. If it doesn't work, start it with sudo systemctl start NetworkManager, then chekc your connection again.
leap 15.4, with KDE.
When there is an update a notification pops up, you go to system tray, click on the icon and do the updates.
you mean the menu that will make your system unstable if you dont reboot immediately after updates?
if I can remember, it also does not do it automatically, by which I mean there is no setting to make it automatic.
to try to make it better I had to install a separate package, of which I have not found any information on suse documentation, to have the KDE built-in automatic update system.
and it does not work.
it restarts the system twice, after which zypper still says that all the updates need to be installed.
you mean the menu that will make your system unstable if you dont reboot immediately after updates?
Not sure what that is or what menu it is. But yeah, the updates are not automatic, you have to manually start it. That "must restart after the update" thing is related to systemd, not openSUSE.
If someone wants an auto update system, that can be arranged with scripts. No idea where that could be done via GUI though. Sorry, I cannot check it right away since it's not my system. I don't use openSUSE or KDE myself.
Not sure what that is or what menu it is. But yeah, the updates are not automatic, you have to manually start it. That "must restart after the update" thing is related to systemd, not openSUSE.
I don't think it's systemd's fault that I repeatedly experienced general system unstability after installing updates with zypper.
By this I mean several elements of the system becoming unresponsive, like the shutdown, reboot, log out buttons stopping from working (them being pressed only resulting in a syslog error about being unable to start the program that shows the countdown), but also other programs like firefox acting weiry.
I don't think it's the fault of opensuse specifically.
And if you think about it, it's logical that this would happen.
Because version A of programs is what is still running, but the filesystem now has version B of a lot of things including executables and libraries, with lots of changes, and the assumptions for which version A programs were coded do not hold up anymore. And they crash, not even start, or do bad things. Processes that make use of D-Bus are especially sensisensitive to this, but others like firefox sometimes get tangled into it when they load a library only after the files were updated (yes I've experienced that too, both on linux and windows).
It's no wonder windows installers always ask you to close all (related) programs before installing or updating. It's not unique to windows: android kills the app when it is updated, abd system updates require a restart as well. I don't know what does flatpak do, but I'm sure that after updating the package, only after restarting its app will the changes get applied.
Not completely but kind of, all those poweroff, reboot etc. tied to systemd, though I believe this is mostly related to polkit run out of time. Can be fixed with a longer timeout. This also happens to me on Arch and yeah it's kinda annoying.
Normally updates don't change a thing on Linux since the system runs on RAM. However, with these systemd updates, things have changed. Without systemd, it's still the same more or less.
Not completely but kind of, all those poweroff, reboot etc. tied to systemd, though I believe this is mostly related to polkit run out of time.
that's right, but as I remember the error was talking about being unable to launch that KDE-specufic countdown overlay. journalctl has shown such an error for every time I tried to stop the session in any of the ways.
Normally updates don't change a thing on Linux since the system runs on RAM.
that's not how I understand the system is working. could you elaborate?
Usually you would only need to reboot if you want to use the new kernel right away after an update.
and the new version of all the software that is still running with the old version.
For most of the programs, you don't even need to restart them if they're already running.
~~how? won't they keep being the old version?~~
However, if you restart them they will run as the newer updated version.
oh, yeah, we agree on that. but my point is that in my experience, a lot of software gets very confused if some libs it would use or resource files have changed after they were started. often that's also the reason why holding back a package's version makes trouble over time (because certain other packages can't be updated either), or same with using custom repos that have a different release schedule or maybe are not even in sync with your distro
and the new version of all the software that is still running with the old version.
That's why it's recommended to reboot after a major update, and usually there is a notification for that. But there is usually no need to rush the reboot if you work on something.
If one needs a certain release of a program I guess using the AppImage version would be the best.
It’s polished and easy to use, it leverages all the work that goes into Debian and Ubuntu, but it’s still Linux under the hood and doesn’t forbid you from getting into the weeds.
I run Mint Cinnamon on my work machine, developing software for embedded Linux products, and I haven’t had any regrets.
Longtime every OS user. But have been using Linux since the days of Mandrake in ‘96. Switched to Debian shortly thereafter though mostly as a server/SDN device. Then a long spell on Ubuntu starting with 8.something. While I don’t use Linux on the desktop as my primary work OS, I do use it daily.
Recently, annoyed with windows, which I only used/booted up for gaming, I gave gaming on Linux a try. It’s been mostly flawless even when the games aren’t Linux-native. Hilariously Ubuntu was awful and I couldn’t get it working so I’ve switched to something more gaming specific and couldn't happier.
Garuda.
I’d never used Arch or Arch derivatives but if this is the experience I understand the memes a little more.
The package management is easy and very up to date. I like the BTRFS snapshots, and it had everything game-related available right out of the box. My Nvidia graphics card, which was the thing I couldn’t get working on Ubuntu, performed as well or better than under windows.
The only thing that didn’t work for me was ZFS - but because everything else was working well, I just went another route.
I need to do this with my gaming computer yet. I run Linux on my other machines (and have for many years), but this one is Windows. I bought the computer in 2021, but it doesn't have the trusted computing module, so I can't upgrade it to Windows 11 even if I wanted to.
Last night I tried to add an SSD that I had from a laptop that died, figuring I'll put a fresh install of Linux on the second SSD and not touch the original drive. Unfortunately, the computer didn't want to boot off the original drive any more - even when I changed the boot priority to the original drive, I still got grub from the new drive. I had to disconnect the new SSD to get the computer to boot Windows on the original drive (I wasn't ready to do the Linux install and might need Windows in the mean time).
I know it's a temporary issue at worst, as the installer will likely pick up that Windows installation and make it an option in grub. But it was a setback I wasn't expecting. I figured I'd put in the drive and have it just idling there until I had time to run the Linux installation.
Bird flu in Canada may have mutated to become more transmissible to humans
Bird flu in Canada may have mutated to become more transmissible to humans
Scientists are racing to understand what a hospitalized teen’s case of bird flu may mean for future outbreaksMelody Schreiber (The Guardian)
like this
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ likes this.
What are the anti-personnel landmines the US is sending to Ukraine and why are they banned by more than 150 countries?
What are the anti-personnel landmines the US is sending to Ukraine and why are they banned by more than 150 countries?
President Biden is ramping up support for Ukraine in his final days in office with the provision of controversial anti-personnel landmines.Michael Drummond (Sky News)
like this
Dessalines likes this.
Why turn Ukraine into Cambodia when you could just order your troops to go home instead....?
The whole wanting Ukraine as a buffer state doesn't really make sense when you're just annexing the buffer territory anyways.
don't like this
Dessalines doesn't like this.
like this
Dessalines and ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ like this.
don't like this
Dessalines and ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ don't like this.
like this
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ likes this.
Lol, and America's military is only used to spread freedom......
You guys are just pissing on each other and calling it rain.
PieFed, a FOSS Feed Aggregator alternative to Lemmy, but faster
Welcome to a new era of interconnected content discussion with PieFed – a link aggregator, a forum, a hub of social interaction and information, built for the fediverse. Our focus is on individual control, safety, and decentralised power.Like other platforms in the fediverse, we are a self-governed space for social link aggregation and conversation. We operate without the influence of corporate entities – ensuring that your experience is free of advertisements, invasive tracking, or secret algorithms. On our platform, content is grouped into communities, allowing you to engage with topics of interest and disregard the irrelevant ones. We utilise a voting system to highlight the best content.
- Source Code (Codeberg)
- Roadmap
- Comparing network utilization of Lemmy, Kbin and PieFed
- Instances
Video introduction the codebase
pyfedi
Project background: https://join.piefed.social Demo site / Flagship instance: https://piefed.socialCodeberg.org
Us sitting here with our fiber internet and recent model phones have it pretty good. But the “i” in iPhone stands for “inequality”. Most people in the world still have pretty bad internet and old/slow phones. For a platform to be widely adopted and to serve the needs of those who often miss out, it needs to be frugal in network and cpu usage.
Lemmy Kbin PieFed Home page 4.5 MB 1.65 MB 700 KB – 930 KB Viewing a post 360 KB 826 KB (varies) 29 KB Home pages
Due to Lemmy’s javascript-heavy software architecture, visiting a Lemmy home page involves downloading a lot of JavaScript – about 4.0 MB of it. And this only gets you 20 posts! Also community thumbnails, even if displayed as a 22px by 22px icon are served directly from their home instances, unresized, which can often be multiple megabytes in size. The home page of lemmy.nz is currently weighing over 9 MB.Kbin’s home page comes in at a respectable 1.65 MB due to relying less on JavaScript. However it is let down by not using loading=”lazy” on images so they all need to be loaded immediately and by generating post thumbnails that are twice as big as they need to be.
The PieFed home page, showing 5x more posts than Lemmy, weighs between 700 and 930 KB, depending on which posts are shown. In low bandwidth mode, the home page is only 320 KB due to not having any thumbnails.
Viewing posts
When viewing a post, we can assume various assets (CSS, JS and some images) are cached due to loading the home page first.The picture looks similar when viewing a post, which is a bit surprising. One of the usual benefits of the JS-heavy SPA architecture used by Lemmy is that once all the ‘app’ is loaded into the browser, subsequent pages only involve a small API call. However, going to a page in Lemmy involves two API calls (one for the page and one for the comments) both of which return quite a bit of data. If you look at the ‘get the comments on this post’ JSON response you can see the developers have fallen into the classic SPA pitfall of “over-fetching“. They’re retrieving a whole haystack from the backend and then using JavaScript to find the needle they want, which involves transferring the haystack over the internet. Ideally the backend would find the needle and just send that to the frontend.
Kbin sends more data than it needs to when viewing a post, again because of not using loading=”lazy” which causes every profile picture of the commenters to be loaded at once. Making this simple fix would bring the weight down, from ~800 KB to around 50 KB.
PieFed only sends 10 KB – 30 KB to show a post, but it varies depending on the number and length of comments. This could be reduced even more by minifying the HTML response but with PieFed under active development I prefer the source to be as readable as possible to aid in debugging.
This is no accident. It is the result of choices made very early on in the development process, well before any code was written. These choices were made based on certain priorities and values which will continue to shape PieFed in the future as it grows. In a world where digital access remains unequal, prioritizing accessible and fast-loading websites isn’t just about technology; it’s a step towards a more inclusive and equitable society.
join.piefed.social/2024/02/09/…
#Kbin #Lemmy #piefed #threadverse #webPerformance
The Performance Inequality Gap, 2024
How much HTML, CSS, and JavaScript can we afford? More than in years past, but much less than frontend developers are burdening users with.Alex Russell
like this
jwr1, makmarian, Druid_Moo, TheFederatedPipe and LPS like this.
Might have been a user error then! Admittedly I did not try very hard.
There's also a low bandwidth mode available. It's an impressive platform in general.
Two of the developers are scary communist tankies. And no, I don't think software can be right wing or left wing. Maybe if it's centralized, like X, but the developers of Lemmy can't interfere with Lemmy servers they don't admin, and it's open source (lots of other people contribute to the Lemmy source code at this point and so would be able to spot things added in).
Personally, I think the right way to advertise other competitors on the fediverse isnt to fear monger about the developers, but to say what features the alternatives have that might be good. Also, it is nice to have competitors, so also just to advertise based on the availability of alternative options, since it is nice to have those just in case.
The Lemmy devs? I'm aware of this. I'm a right winger and that doesn't affect me nearly as much as the far left communities of Lemmy users.
The features are all I care about. Eventually I'll find the right people here and be able to build the communities I want.
like this
realcaseyrollins likes this.
Ooh I didn't know that the exploding-heads guy did anything else.
Why block instances though? I've never been a fan of that, I just let people block me.
hilariouschaos (set up by the old exploding-heads guys)
...really? I always got the impression that the admin is some teenage girl
I’m a right winger and that doesn’t affect me nearly as much as the far left communities of Lemmy users.
I am surprised that you have survived this long. I am rather moderate left, and even after blocking the main extreme left instances, I still question my presence when I see the amount of far left populism that gets acclaimed here.
realcaseyrollins likes this.
I am rather moderate leftblocking the main extreme left instances
Sounds like you're plenty interested in hearing from conservatives. 🤔
like this
Fitik likes this.
Tbf you're on Lemmy 24/7 so you'll hear about things much earlier than many others. I've also been on Piefed for a minute.
But I've come to understand how slowly knowledge propagates through large numbers of people, at least via this medium. First with the APIcaplyse, when I realized that virtually nobody on reddit had even heard of the API changes, let alone moving to Lemmy. And then on Lemmy itself with various major events/dramas that people were totally unaware of until much later.
Piefed is developing rapidly and seems like a worthy alternative to Lemmy and Mbin. The private voting feature is also really cool.
like this
Fitik likes this.
No need to be on Lemmy that much, just watching !fedimemes@feddit.uk you would see Piefed mentioned every week
Same here, on !fediverse@lemmy.world
like this
Fitik likes this.
like this
Fitik and falseprophet like this.
Filtered word: nsfw
Yeah but usually it's just "try piefed", with a smug tone so it's kind of hard to take people seriously.
Aside from that, adoption becomes a hassle for everything fediverse due to the whole pick your server thing, I went from fmhy to nsfw to dbzero to cafe... I'd be so happy if picking a server would not require so much trial and error.
What drove you from dbzer0 to cafe, blocking ml?
It takes trial and then error because it's user depend, some people might have gone the opposite, from cafe to dbzer0
What drove you from dbzer0 to cafe, blocking ml?
Yeah, ml and hex.
Too much mexican goverment propaganda and getting swarmed by those users to defend it, is not a good time.
It takes trial and then error because it's user depend, some people might have gone the opposite, from cafe to dbzer0
I know, and it's a pain... And it will always be a pain.
That's also what discourages me from trying piefed, having to server jump until I find a decent one again.
Looks like a pretty nice and standard Lemmy visualizer.
it doesn't pull in all the content unless someone subscribes
I think that's how Lemmy works too
like this
Fitik likes this.
It would probably also be against the TOS for Voyager (Jerboa actively prevents it's use with anything other than Lemmy, even if the API is the same).
nothing like that in voyager terms
To be completely honest, if you want a healthy 3rd party app ecosystem, the official UI and backend need to be completely separated with a publicly documented API.
Biggest win with Lemmy, and biggest fluff with kbin. And it shows when it comes to 3rd party app ecosystem. People wanted to build apps for kbin….
Hello from Piefed! I was a regular on Lemmy and Mastodon for years, but I migrated to Piefed because it is much more lightweight.
The features page shows some differences between Piefed and Lemmy - join.piefed.social/features/ Mostly, I appreciate that it is written in Python, so more developers in the community may easily understand and contribute to the code base, and that it is so lightweight. When I connect to the internet I always have to consider data caps, so it's a relief when websites make a genuine effort to be efficient. I can reliably browse the fediverse through Piefed even when my access is throttled to 50Kbps download.
Some features of the site (like responding to your comment) require JS, but I just tried blocking JS with uBlock and I was able to use most of the site perfectly fine.
I am not sure about strict mode on Tor, but you should totally report back if it works. Give it a shot!
Sounds great!
But I suspect that the Lemmy backend is faster since it's in Rust. Also Rust codebases are much easier to maintain since it's a strict language.

like this
Fitik likes this.
Ah, so sorry to hear that! I got excited to hear that you were excited to work on it too... 
Thank you for telling me so I won't spread misinformation about it. I hope you get to where you have more time irl soon - whether you choose to spend it on that topic, on Lemmy at all, or touch grass or sth else instead (our health is important!!!). Take good care of yourself (and then get back to work! only if/when you want to ofc:-P).
But I do hope it comes soon:-). And yet the web UI I would hope would be polished regardless.
This code: codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/b…
Its mostly freamon and rimu working on that part. Iirc its meant to be lemmy api compatible, but i think there are some adaptations needed to accomadate the piefed way differences.
Freamon got a fork of a lemmy app to sort-of work back in september (https://matrix.to/#/!NVUzKiFppMtECaxHQm:matrix.org/$KJqJfus8DVy-B64AC8uWEQ9oiGsRA04AReRF-05nQYA?via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de&via=jeena.net) so the alpha api stuff has been coming in since then.
like this
Fitik likes this.
Yes. I added that myself a couple months ago 😎
edit: you have to export your lemmy user settings. that comes down as a .json file. Then you make a piefed user, and there is an import settings in the piefed user profile.
it will also attempt to import any blocks/bans of users/communities you had in the lemmy settings. But if the instance of piefed you are on does not 'l\know' about those users/communities it wont add them to bans list. But of course that means the community in question is not federated to the instance you are on, so half-dozen-of-one-six-of-the-other really.
like this
Fitik likes this.
Yes really. Here's an example - see the communities at the top, and hashtags at the bottom.
On second thought, that's not a fantastic example of categories, so here and here are better ones.
There's a lot that is not yet implemented in PieFed, like no preview feature for writing messages or user tagging (e.g. @openstars@piefed.social does not send me a notification), yet it already has several features that Lemmy does not - it's so exciting to watch it develop!
yep, it show's under 1 day on wefwef/voyager.
i think I'll still stay on lemmy.
On my account I use the (dark) theme Card Shadow. I had an issue with it where I needed to disable the Dark Reader extension in Firefox. Lemmy ignored that but it actively messed up PieFed, though after disabling it, PieFed works perfectly for me.
piefed.social/communities has a create local and add remote buttons that look like they would create communities, though I did not text them out.
Edit: and the Create Local option has a "local only" checkbox, i.e. the default being to share the newly created community with Lemmy and Mbin instances via the ActivityPub protocol.
The reason my first example wasn't a good one was that this meme community (!tech_memes@lemmy.world) wasn't part of the organized hierarchy of Home -> Topics -> Chilling -> Memes, but rather the generic Home -> Communities (as in, all of them in aggregate) -> Technology Memes@lemmy.world. So yeah, it's a very new community, although !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca is older but the same happens with it too. Therefore I assume that it requires an admin approval to bundle these "Topics" together, and it definitely doesn't strike me as something that an individual user could put together.
Then again, someone (perhaps you? or me?) could send requests to the admin to add communities to topic areas, or perhaps modify the codebase directly if it were placed into a file and people granted access (whereupon once again, the admin would have to approve - although in this case a mechanism would also be needed to assess the differences and apply them).
Anyway, there's a LOT of polish that PieFed lacks, and this doesn't even crack the top half imho, next to things like user mentions (@openstars@piefed.social) and Notifications properly taking you to the actual thing that you are being notified about (a goodly fraction of the time it does not, right now.
On the other hand, Lemmy has no such thing as "Categories" or "Topics" of any kind so... anything that PieFed has along these lines is surely better than the nothing that exists in that regard there, right?
Thank you very much for taking the time to explain where things are at for folks!
I'll have to wait and see if an Android client that supports it shows up, it looks really neat!
You are most welcome:-).
An app? Apparently an API is in development for it, but it's still in alpha stage. Even so, there's a bunch of new features in PieFed that Lemmy does not have, such as Categories of Communities, so in some ways it would be a downgrade to use an app.
I just use Firefox to access PieFed.social, and it works fine. Well, mostly, bc even though PieFed has things that Lemmy lacks, it lacks some polish compared to the Lemmy web UI that has had more development work put into it. This is where an app would come in handy - if you didn't need all the new features that PieFed offers and just want Lemmy without the "Lemmy" part:-). (And didn't want to use Mbin, which iirc also lacks an API and thus ability to access via an app.)
Edit: One cool thing is that PieFed is written in Python rather than Rust, so the development process should move forward more quickly since more people know the former language while the latter is reportedly quite difficult. And another cool thing is that the developers are SUPER responsive:-).
Can I aggregate all threads that link to the same URL so I can view all comments on that URL in one page?
Ideally across all instances of mastodon and Lemmy and others?
Therefore I assume that it requires an admin approval to bundle these “Topics” together, and it definitely doesn’t strike me as something that an individual user could put together.
That's why I'm saying it's not personal multi communities, which is something people are definitely looking forward (most upvoted Lemmy GitHub issue)
I remember discussing personal multicommunities with @rimu@piefed.social a while ago, at the time it was not a priority for Piefed, maybe they'll revisit in the future.
I personally do not like the
People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name
I think this creates a prejudice on the person before you even read what they have to say and overall increases the echo camber effect.
and the
Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.
to me seems quite an arbitrary rule.
PieFed, a FOSS Feed Aggregator alternative to Lemmy, but faster
Welcome to a new era of interconnected content discussion with PieFed – a link aggregator, a forum, a hub of social interaction and information, built for the fediverse. Our focus is on individual control, safety, and decentralised power.Like other platforms in the fediverse, we are a self-governed space for social link aggregation and conversation. We operate without the influence of corporate entities – ensuring that your experience is free of advertisements, invasive tracking, or secret algorithms. On our platform, content is grouped into communities, allowing you to engage with topics of interest and disregard the irrelevant ones. We utilise a voting system to highlight the best content.
- Source Code (Codeberg)
- Roadmap
- Comparing network utilization of Lemmy, Kbin and PieFed
- Instances
Video introduction the codebase
PieFed - Open Source Federated Forum
A link aggregator, a forum, a hub of social interaction and information, built for the fediverse.PieFed
reshared this
Tech Cyborg reshared this.
Pakistan’s Imran Khan gets bail in a graft case but with more cases pending, he is staying in prison
ISLAMABAD (AP) — A Pakistani court granted bail Wednesday to former Prime Minister Imran Khan in a graft case, his lawyer said. But with a slew of other charges pending against him, the opposition leader is staying behind bars.
Still, the order by a superior court in the capital, Islamabad, was a boost for Khan in the case in which he is accused, along with his wife, Bushra Bibi, of keeping and selling state gifts in violation of government rules when he was in power.
His convictions were later overturned in appeals but he cannot be freed due to other, pending cases against him. Because the law is unclear in a situation with multiple cases, Khan has remained in the same prison in the garrison city of Rawalpindi where he has been incarcerated since his first conviction.
He has maintained his innocence and has argued that the cases are an attempt to sideline him politically by keeping him out of the public area.
Pakistan's Imran Khan gets bail in a graft case but with more cases pending, he is staying in prison
The lawyer for Pakistan's former Prime Minister Imran Khan says he has been granted bail in a graft case but with a slew of other charges pending against him, the opposition leader is staying behind bars.MUNIR AHMED (AP News)
From the telegraph article:
Imran Khan has been granted bail by a Pakistani court for one of the cases against him but the ex-prime minister is likely to remain in jail because of a host of other charges.On Wednesday, Justice Miangul Hassan Aurangzeb, of the Islamabad High Court, accepted the former cricketer’s bail plea in a trial relating to alleged illegal sale of state gifts.
But there was “no chance” of his release because of at least eight other charges against him, Pakistan’s information minister said.
“Release for him is not possible; there are many other cases he needs to secure bail in,” Attaullah Tarar told Pakistani media.
Mr Tarar added that the eight other charges related to the “mayhem” of May 9 2023, when Khan’s supporters rioted and stormed the Pakistani army’s headquarters in response to his arrest.
Seems like something brewing behind the scenes after the US election considering they were stalling all these cases since August last year.
Why are New Zealand’s Maori protesting over colonial-era treaty bill?
Why are New Zealand’s Maori protesting over colonial-era treaty bill?
Thousands are marching against a bill they believe undermines the Treaty of Waitangi and limits Maori rights.Sarah Shamim (Al Jazeera)
like this
Dessalines likes this.
There is a lot more nuance than is explained or even hinted at in the article.
There are a bunch of biased comments in the article.
- It paints the Maori as a consistent group.
- Before the arrival of the British and for a long time after, the Maori were similar to the Greek city states; alliances, wars, betrayals and friendships.
- Their culture was just as fragmented.
- It says in the article that Maori speak te Reo.
- This is unfortunately not true, it is changing and there is more te Reo being spoken "in the wild"; but walking down the street, it is not often I hear te Reo being spoken.
- te Reo is an amalgamation. The Maori were a diverse group, each had their own dialect, at some point in the recent past te Reo was "standardized". There was a bunch of contention around some words that were pronounced and spelt differently by different Iwi.
- The land grabs and persecution parts are true.
- Some Iwi did a lot better than others.
- Some Iwi didn't sign the treaty at all.
- Some tribes "sold" their land, when they thought differently.
- The part about Te Pati Maori only holding 6 out of 123 seats is funny.
- There are 7 Maori electorates, TPM won a bunch of these. Labour won some.
- Every party has Moari MP's, TPM is not the only Maori voice in parliament. Implying TPM is the only voice for Maori is demeaning. The Maori people are not a monolithic group; their politics is as varied as any other group.
The main issue is that the two treaties, the English language version and the version written in "Maori" are not the same. Te Triti (the Maori version) grants rangatiratanga; or self determination to the Iwi; whilst the English version grants sovereignty to the crown. There are a bunch of other differences, but this is the main one.
Contract law has the doctrine of Contra Proferentem; or against the drafter. Since the British crown wrote the treaties; as at the time there was no Maori written language; the interpretation of the contract should be read as to benefit the non-drafting party, in this case Te Triti should be taken as the "correct" one.
Now to the issue with the proposed bill.
- It sets out to "equalise" all peoples, which on the surface sounds really good. Why wouldn't you want to treat people equally?
- Under NZ law, all peoples are already equal!
- There are specific carve outs, to allow for the closing of historic inequities suffered by Maori. The bill seeks to remove or reduce these.
- There is also culture war bullshit, around dual names for government departments etc.
- Treaty negotiations have been ongoing for decades at this point. They look set to continue for many decades to come. The ACT party wants this to stop.
Some say that ACT are hiding their racism behind the guise of equality. My opinion is that they are not specifically being racist. ACT is the libertarian party here; I think this is a long game to transfer more power to the corporates and private sector. This kind of culture war crap is a great smoke screen to transfer more power away from the people.
As someone who basically knows nothing about this but what is in the article, the Maori sound like they have the right idea to me.
The Maori version of the original treaty seems very generous and would make sense to most people how it was written. How anyone would believe the British version was legitimate unless it was signed under coercion or misrepresentation makes zero sense.
Despite the bill being highly likely to fail, many believe that just by allowing the bill to be tabled in Parliament, the coalition government has ignited dangerous social division.
That they are protesting even though the new bill is unlikely to pass seems very smart, given what is going on in other parts of the world and how manipulation by governments works in history. By entertaining it as any form of reasonable proposal, it gives it credence, no matter how small, and each time it is suggested, it will be normalized a bit more, and they will pick up another supporter here and there until they can pass it.
Not many people know the history of the treaty. It basically was signed under duress. Prior to the meeting where it was signed all but one of the Maori tribal leaders were against signing the treaty, even the Maori version. What was said at the signing was purposely never recorded, but considering the existential threat of the New Zealand Company (NZC) on the horizon (the primary reason a treaty was even being discussed), it is believed that the Maori leaders were basically given the choice of 'sign this treaty and be a part of the British empire, or don't and have no legal rights against the whims of the New Zealand Company'.
The New Zealand Company was a private British company with the goal of obtaining as much land as possible at any cost, and the Maori would have had zero legal protections unless they were part of the British empire. Without a treaty the NZC would have been able to push out the Maori entirely with no repercussions. The British people who brought the treaty to the Maori leaders knew this was coming, and wanted to avoid it.
Signing the treaty was a quick and dirty solution to the quickly approaching NZC and was responsible for preventing the worst of the damage, but it is a very flawed document. The translations were rushed, and vague. Basically everyone was against signing it, but they knew it was the least worst option available. It was never designed to be the core document underpinning a nation, merely a speed bump to stall the private annexation of New Zealand.
Zelensky says Ukraine will lose war if US cuts funding
Zelensky says Ukraine will lose war if US cuts funding
US President-elect Donald Trump has campaigned on a promise to end America's involvement in wars.Gabriela Pomeroy (BBC News)
Claude AI crea un tool per confrontare le mappe online
Claude AI crea un tool per confrontare le mappe online
Map Matrix è un'applicazione Web sviluppata utilizzando Claude AI, che consente il confronto di mappe online, con una particolare attenzione ai percorsi ciclabili. Il progetto è stato completato con l'ausilio di Cursor AI.Michele Nasi (ilsoftware.it)
Bottenhavets strömmingar är feta och har gott om föda. Detta enligt finska Naturresursinsitutet Luke som undersökte strömmingens (sillens) och skarpsillen (vassbukens) tillstånd i september månad.
Misstänkt sabotage mot datakablar. En förundersökning om misstänkt sabotage har inletts med anledning av två kabelbrott i Östersjön.
FLTK 1.4 Released With Wayland & HiDPI Display Support on Phoronix (19 Nov 2024)
I started to learn how to use FLTK in Rust this year, so its fair to assume this update is specifically made for me; its so obvious. FLTK is basically a suckless toolkit for GUIs, with the goal of being small, light and standalone without being complicated. It is very small and can be compiled into the app without runtime requirements. It has most common functionality you would expect from a toolkit and should work cross platform.
Happy to see this update! Need to experiment and learn more about it soon for my first FLTK app.
You're right they do, I'm not sure where I got the idea that you couldn't run em but I'm sure I've got some error message about static linking before when trying to run a binary
Might've been whatever the opposite is (dynamically linked?)
Lead Paint Girl and Asbestos Boy were just here!
"Lead Paint Girl" ?!? You can't call someone that! Lead is heavy and causes mental retardation (I'm sorry if that word offends you, it's the literal translation of the diagnosis in my language)... Anyway, calling people "lead paint person" indicates that they're both heavy and idiots.
So with no further ado, let me introduce to you, the next president of the United States of America:
Donald "The Lead Paint President" Trump
It could be abbreviated as LPP. Alternative uses of the abbreviation, could revolve around pronouncing the letters PP, and substituting the L with words like "Little", "Leaky" or "Leprous". Finding better words starting with L may be a fun game to play with your friends, when you're hiding in the hidden part of your basement, while armed right wing nut jobs go hunting for libs in the 2028 election.
This reminds me of the efforts made against tobacco and for cleaner air in certain areas, but it also reminds me how we do this for other things too.
Radium toothpaste, lead paint and asbestos curtains.
So, as someone that sees cars as a significant source of pollution, from exhausts, brake pads and tires, I find it ironic that some places are banning outdoor smoking in public areas while it's perfectly acceptable to drive a gas guzzler around and among those places.
Like, I'm so grateful nobody can smoke around me on that restaurant's terrace, this way I can fully enjoy breathing the pollution from the thousand of cars around.
You can tell that it is because of it wasn't it would have the tobacco brand emblazoned all over it.
As if Marlboro would create a mascot that didn't have their logo on it! They're be walking down the street handing out packs of 20 to kids.
Blushes back at you and passes away
Is this meme meant to provide awareness about revisionist evil or excesses?
Sir_Kevin
in reply to Arthur Besse • • •chloroken
in reply to Arthur Besse • • •