‘Black Myth: Wukong’ Named 2024 Game Of The Year At Golden Joysticks
‘Black Myth: Wukong’ Wins 2024 Game Of The Year At Golden Joysticks
‘Final Fantasy VII: Rebirth’ claimed four gongs–and the incredible indie hit ‘Balatro’ picked up two–but the public favored ‘Black Myth: Wukong’ for GOTY.Matt Gardner (Forbes)
ARREST NETANYAHU
ARREST NETANYAHU
The International Criminal Court has officially issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu. But it means nothing if world leaders refuse to comply with it - sign the petition now to demand they act:Avaaz
The US is busy threatening all their "allies" over this too.
Nice to see them go full mask off and drag world into a objectively worse situation.
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Kenya cancels airport and energy deals with Adani group after the US indicts the Indian tycoon
Kenya cancels airport and energy deals with Adani group after the US indicts the Indian tycoon
Kenya’s president says he has cancelled multimillion-dollar airport expansion and energy deals with Indian tycoon Gautam Adani after U.S. bribery and fraud indictments against one of Asia’s richest menEVELYNE MUSAMBI Associated Press (ABC News)
Kenya scraps airport, power deals with Adani after US fraud indictment
Business - Kenya scraps airport, power deals with Adani after US fraud indictment
Kenya's president has announced the cancellation of two major infrastructure deals with India's Adani Group, after US prosecutors charged its founder Gautam Adani and his associates with fraud over a 250 million dollar corruption scheme.Yuka ROYER (FRANCE 24)
Biden calls ICC warrant for Israeli PM 'outrageous'
Biden calls ICC warrant for Israeli PM 'outrageous'
WASHINGTON, D.C. — US President Joe Biden called the International Criminal Court's arrest warrants for top Israeli leaders 'outrageous' in a statement Thursday.Agence France-Presse (The Manila Times)
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Outrageous that it took so long, right?
"Whatever the ICC might imply, there is no equivalence — none — between Israel and Hamas," Biden said
Hard agree. One is a genocidal menace whereas the other is tenaciously resisting said genocide
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Personally i disliked it and i gave it 3 tries because everyone i know raved about it.
It just feels like teenage drama through and through. It's the usual, 25 year old teens doing dumb things, being sexualized and being over the top dramatic with special cramming on classic cliques. There's some sci-fi elements to it, but at some point i loathed all the characters, in particular the protagonist.
Full disclaimer, i didn't make it past the second season.
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Ah yes for China it's a "final warning", for Russia people "fall" out windows, North Korea's absurd perfect leader trope, and the USA's "outrage" at the rest of the civilised world.
My grandma, what good company you keep.
“The Babylon project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed. bum bum bah In the year of the Shadow War it became something greater; our last best hope for victory.”
Edit; I’m actually doing a rewatch now and nearing the end of Season 4. I already miss Season 3. Although nothing beats “Drazi: Captain, we’re sorry we thought you were dead. Sheridan: I was, I’m better now.”
Who are you?
What do you want?
Why are you here?
Where are you going?
Do you have anything worth living for?
The universe began with a word. But which came first: the word or the thought behind the word?
He's so damn good! The makeup is just 👩🏼🍳😙👌🏼 I have a mighty need for a rewatch!
I rewatch fairly often 😅 especially when I’m indoctrinating someone close to me to the series haha. I was born when it premiered and watched it when young. I live vicariously through newcomers reactions to plot reveals.
It’s one of those shows that gets better and better upon rewatching as there are references to upcoming events if you know what to look for.
I just need to buy the DVD set tbh, last I watched it was yearssss ago 😭 but I'm proud of myself for remember the questions haha
There's so much foreshadowing! Fuck, off I go to get the set haha
No the memes are gettin self-referential too quickly for me because i need even more cat pics.
I will add a cat pic because this post does not have one and by gaw it will
Beehaw defederated from a bunch of instances, maybe you're not federated with the one people are posting to
They're all in the cats community if you aren't subscribed prob won't see em
Same for me, which strikes me as a fundamental problem with the platform that once one community blows up it drowns out the others
Could do with some balancing algorithm that soft caps the ratio of posts from a single community that get shown on any given page
Singapore hangs drug trafficker, third such execution in a week
Singapore hangs drug trafficker, third such execution in a week
Southeast Asian city-state is among a handful of countries that impose the death penalty for drug offences.Al Jazeera
Nice File Performance Optimizations Coming With Linux 6.13
Nice File Performance Optimizations Coming With Linux 6.13
In addition to the pull requests managed by Microsoft engineer Christian Brauner for VFS untorn writes for atomic writes with XFS and EXT4, Tmpfs case insensitive file/folder support, new Rust file abstractions, and the renewed multi-grain timestamps…www.phoronix.com
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En nazist är en nazist. Svea hovrätt har beslutat att en person som arbetar på den högerextrema tidskriften Nya Tider ska få skadestånd efter att ha blivit utpekad som dömd för dråp.
Dragon Ball characters, named Bibidi, Babidi and Boo, respectively.
(Ok the last one is called Majin Boo but he's referred as Boo too)
'A harbinger of what's to come:' NASA satellites show massive drop in global freshwater levels
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Global fresh water demand will outstrip supply by 40% by 2030
'A harbinger of what's to come:' NASA satellites show massive drop in global freshwater levels
NASA satellites discovered that Earth's surface has lost enough water to empty Lake Erie two and a half times since 2015. And the problem could be here to stay.Ben Turner (Live Science)
Britain 'directly involved' in Ukraine war, Russian ambassador tells Sky News
Britain 'directly involved' in Ukraine war, Russian ambassador tells Sky News
The ambassador says there has been "deliberate cheating of us" as he'd received multiple assurances the Storm Shadows would only be used inside Ukrainian territory.Sky News
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Unfortunately, when trying to expand your regime sometimes other nations take issue (as they should)
Direct support should have been immediate and global but each nation is too afraid of not being backed by all the others that they won't take the risk.
We, as a species, should be stomping on governments that attempt to take what rightly belongs to another.
Indeed. We in the global south should have stomped out America during the cold war instead of letting them topple governments all over the world and making armed resistance against their proxies inevitable.
No worries tho, America will go the way of Rome and the world will be well rid of it. It's only a matter of whether that nazi ass country will succeed in their attempt to kill us all if it can't keep leeching off our labor and resources.
Nooooooo we only provided weapons, guidance systems, money, intel, spies, and one or two or ten acts of sabotage.
Ukrainians are the ones supposed to die for our stock market, not us!
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Starmer’s popularity collapse bigger than any PM
Sir Keir Starmer suffers biggest fall in popularity for new prime minister
Approval rating plunges from high of plus 11 after landslide election win to -38 – a net drop of 49 – ahead of BudgetCharles Hymas (The Telegraph)
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I mean the title should be "... time to move to the other browser".
Safari is the new IE with extra iCrap on top.
Random browsers usually use one of the 3 web engines, but without browser polish, or functionalities like a working adblock. Those that don't are just someone's toys.
So the only real option is Firefox, and the Mozilla foundation lost 80+% of their funding because they can't get the Google money anymore. Maybe they'll start actually funding FF instead of some BS humanitarian work that I can bet was primarily lining their pockets...
Smaller browsers built on webkit do exist; see 'Epiphany', 'surf', 'luakit', and 'Nyxt'.
Qt's web component used to be based on webkit as well, though they've switched to Blink (Chromium).
Unfortunately, none of the browsers listed above are 100% sufficient to replace Firefox. They all rely on GTK bindings on webkit, which has its own quirks; and none have support for webextensions.
I said they're the new IE for a reason.
The w3c standard: ok so we all agreed that this feature will be placed in the body tag
Blink: ofc, that's what I've been telling you
Gecko: sure, idc
WebKit: yeah nah, put it in the html
So many little senseless gotchas like that that exist for no reason that to be iSpecial
Really looking forward to this new browser tbh.
As comfortable as I am on Firefox, I kinda just want something totally new to enter the space at this point.
Zero loyalties.
If Firefox did something similar, they'd be off my drive before I finished the article.
Chrome is a web browser created and maintained by an advertising company. This whole situation was never going to go any other way.
Firefox is equally doomed since so much of their current revenue comes from Google.
We have a foundation dedicated to the development of an entire kernel, but a web browser is a stretch.
(It indeed may be a stretch)
Who's "we", though? Here's the list of Linux Foundation members: linuxfoundation.org/about/memb…
It's a foundation by, and for, commercial interests; not the users. If the same interests made up a foundation to develop a browser, it wouldn't be different from Chrome; because in the realm where browsers are supposed to work, those 'commercial interests' would demand doing what Chrome does.
It's a 'happy accident' that with respect to a unix-like OS kernel, the interests of the industry ended up being compatible with the interests of the user.
Russia gives North Korea a million barrels of oil, report finds
Russia gives North Korea a million barrels of oil, report finds
Satellite image analysis shows several North Korean tankers visiting Russia dozens of times since March.Jean Mackenzie (BBC News)
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You can make that exact same argument about dropping bombs.
When countries are threatened and dropping bombs relieves that threat instead of increases it, then they do. It's just that right now violent escalation doesn't benefit China, so it stays in the realm of sabre rattling
Who decides what speech threatens the government? The government.
Uhuh. In other words, governments restrict speech that they think threatens them.
I can say fuck Joe Biden, fuck Donald Trump, and fuck every member of Congress and the Supreme Court. Can you point me towards someone living in China who’s comfortable openly saying “fuck Xi Jinping?”
First off, how many Chinese people have you actually talked to? You know there are Chinese people on the internet that you can talk to, right? And foreign exchange students? You can even visit the country if you want.
And yes, you're free to say things that don't actually threaten the US, like saying fuck Trump or Fuck Biden. You're allowed to be as ineffectual as you'd like. Compare your statements to all the black lives matter organizers who've been found to commit suicide by bullets to the back of the head or public hanging from trees.
Imperialism is human nature, yes.
It is human nature in the sense that humans have been known to do it. It is not human nature in the sense that humans will always do it when the opportunity presents itself.
Are you really trying to argue that Communists can’t be imperialist?
That would be a strange form of communism. Imperialism is, however, baked into capitalism, because once the capitalist class has absorbed the domestic, it tries to exfiltrate new resources abroad and subjugate new labor abroad and access new markets abroad. That is what the UK did, and that is what the US, as the global imperialist hegemon, has been doing for decades, along with its imperial core junior partners.
Sure, if you know literally nothing about the military industrial complex and government capture and its role in creating war, and you want to buy into the propaganda that the US only attacks when it feels threatened.
When countries are threatened and dropping bombs relieves that threat instead of increases it, then they do.
Settler-brained-as-fuck idea about how conflict works
First off, thanks for the substantive response. I appreciate these sorts of discussions over people just trying to dunk on each other like it's twitter.
I don't think China would drop bombs as soon as possible. I think they'll start dropping bombs as soon as that is the best or easiest way of achieving some goal.
China is super xenophobic, like many Asian countries. They won't even try to hide it behind a facade like the West does.
They don't bother using bombs right now, because it would give the US an excuse to get involved, and the US currently outspends the next 11 countries combined. That would be a total shitshow for them no matter what happened. Nobody bothers trying to outspend the US, because you'd wreck your economy and get nothing. If the US went poof though, you'd get a game theoretic situation where everybody invests in the military because everyone else is investing in their military and you don't want to be left out. If China then decided that they want to finish the job on making the Korean peninsula Chinese, who would realistically stop them?
The belt and road initiative is a great extension of soft power, but that says nothing about how they'd use hard power if given the opportunity.
The justice system in the US is inexcusable, but China's is also not great.
The vast majority of arrests lead to informal "administrative" detentions wherein you are held for (usually) a short time—a few weeks, maybe more if they don't believe you're reformed.
You get picked up one day and they tell you to confess. It's in your best interests to confess to something, even if you think they have the wrong person, because they tell you it will go to trial if you don't, and that would just be so hard on your family, right? They'll highlight their impressive over 90% conviction rate too, so you know if you don't confess you likely go to jail for years and your life is over.
You confess, you go to a detention center, any number of things can happen because it's all informal and left to local officials, and then one day they just shove you back into the street like nothing happened. You're likely out of a job now since you haven't shown up in days, and you get some fun new restrictions on your ability to travel. But at least it wasn't prison.
It's also worth noting all this time that your family probably doesn't know what happened to you.
Another factor that contributes to China's lower incarceration rates is that they often choose not to prosecute "personal" crimes. This would be things like robbery, sexual assault, etc. where the victim is another individual citizen. Usually those are handled via financial compensation, essentially the victim can sue for damages, and there's no need for trial or imprisonment if the offender just chooses to pay.
Their execution or imprisonment stats must be much higher than the US!
That's the neat part! There aren't any. China doesn't publish their stats on executions and they don't permit any external auditing of their justice system. What I do know is that, unlike the US, China does not bother with long prison sentences for those sentenced to death. Usually it just happens right after the trial, so those sentenced wouldn't contribute to the imprisonment rate. But I don't buy into the vague estimate of "thousands" that the UN and Amnesty International claim, so that's probably a negligible statistic anyways. But I would certainly believe China is close to the top globally in terms of executions, even if they didn't advertise it to those of us living there.
On the other hand, we should also start counting "shot by police" as an act of execution in the US. Might level the playing field after that.
TL;DR: Who needs high imprisonment rates when you could just go hard on the Panopticon Effect and make your entire society carceral in nature?
I don’t think China would drop bombs as soon as possible. I think they’ll start dropping bombs as soon as that is the best or easiest way of achieving some goal.
See, now that's totally different, as a claim, slightly more reasonable, glad you clarified.
I also, I dunno, I think I just dispute that the disposition of the US empire would immediately lead to some sort of mass arms race, or struggle. I think at most you'd expect to see some more minor movement on china's other political objectives, like just, taking control of taiwan, which I imagine would be a pretty much instantaneous and relatively bloodless kind of move, since they're most of the way there already. But militaries, and military spending, isn't infinite, it's a direct drain on the economy in real terms, especially with modern warfare, as we've seen with ukraine, and especially with the threat of nukes.
We're able to produce all that military shit because we just dump a frankly massive and insane portion of our economy (and especially our extractive economy) into it, in a kind of constant feedback loop where people in power pay themselves. People who work at lockheed martin get hired from positions as US military personnel, where the FAANG is a revolving door with the CIA, that sort of shit. All as sort of a massive sunk cost, that would be pretty hard to disentangle from while maintaining the US economy, since the US economy is so tied to the US empire. We can look at the sort of, landscape that emerged out of the slow dissolution of the new deal, and post new deal government projects, as being less a sort of desert where everything just fell into ruins, and more being a morph kind of slow and incestuous merge between government organizations and private companies, since the "necessity" of those organizations still existed.
I think there's also definitely some extent to which we're getting cooked by china more than we realize with this kind of stuff because our economic metrics are so fucked as to be almost certainly useless.
If you can get your objective without draining massive portions of your economy, then there's really no reason to, and I don't think china would have many problems taking really any soft power objective they set their eyes on. Obviously I'm not a soothsayer, so I can't say what the landscape would form into given this hypothetical, but I don't see a whole lot of geopolitical conflicts of interest, or uncrossable roads, so far as china is concerned in terms of their longer term economic growth or outlook.
I think there's also something to note there about how like, I dunno. I think it's naive to think that military conflicts purely arise out of a latent cultural xenophobia. I think it would be naive to say that plays no role, either, but I don't think it's as nearly shaping a factor as people make it out to be. Certainly, if your nation's finding itself in such a position where someone so idealistic and delusional is making your higher level decisions, and especially your military decisions, as the US currently finds themselves in, you'd probably be cooked like, whatever that person's position is. Probably there's some sort of back and forth here also about china's interactions with their uyghur population, perhaps, as an example of how they've responded to that kinda stuff, and I don't think they have a bad track record.
No, China has something called a democracy and Chinese people don't want to drop bombs on little kids. Let me make that clear, Chinese people don't want to blow up little kids. It might be hard to wrap your mind around but a majority of people don't want something to happen, so it doesn't happen.
The average American also doesn't like the idea of having children be blown up, but they watch slop TV instead and complain about gas prices and having to wear a mask once in their life. When kids do get blown up the TV tells the american settler that they were evil kids, so they go back to complaining about tv shows and self-flattery.
I haven't actually met or talked to a lot of Chinese people, on account of not speaking the language, and the Great Firewall. I wonder why that's there
You've acknowledged that I'm allowed to say things that don't actually threaten the US government. Does comparing Xi Jinping to Winnie the Pooh actually threaten the Chinese government?
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Close, but that metaphor was not equating either country with a serial killer, I was merely pointing out that one party's use of bombs does not necessarily make them worse than another party who does not use bombs. Sorry you're bad at reading
And also, it's not the infrastructure or clean energy that gets people to not like china, it's all the censorship and oppression
Posting racist images online is not a meaningful expression of freedom, as anybody with a functioning brain would understand. Here's what actual tangible freedom looks.
- newsweek.com/most-china-call-t…
- csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacif…
- bloomberg.com/opinion/articles…
- web.archive.org/web/2023051104…
- tbsnews.net/world/china-more-d…
- web.archive.org/web/2020122913…
The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. nber.org/system/files/working_…
From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world’s total poverty population would have risen) semanticscholar.org/paper/Chin…
From 2010 to 2019 (the most recent period for which uninterrupted data is available), the income of the poorest 20% in China increased even as a share of total income. data.worldbank.org/indicator/S…
By the end of 2020, extreme poverty, defined as living on under a threshold of around $2 per day, had been eliminated in China. According to the World Bank, the Chinese government had spent $700 billion on poverty alleviation since 2014. nytimes.com/2020/12/31/world/a…
I love how there are people dumb enough to keep parroting obvious propaganda that's been debunked to death already.
The whole conspiracy theory started with a claim of millions of Uyghurs being supposedly imprisoned story is based on two highly dubious “studies.”.
However, this claim is completely absurd when you stop and think about it even for a minute. That figure 1 million is repeated again and again. Let's just look at how much space would you actually need to intern one million people.
This is a photo of Rikers Island, New York City's biggest prison. The actual size of a facility interning ten thousand people.
According to Wikipedia, "The average daily inmate population on the island is about 10,000, although it can hold a maximum of 15,000." Let's assume this is a Xinjiang detention camp, holding ten to fifteen thousand people. How many of these would it take to hold one million people?
Let's do some math:
| Rikers Size | Rikers Prisoners | One Million Uyghurs Size |
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| 413.2 acres (0.645 square miles) | 10,000 to 15,000 | 43 to 64 square miles |
In reality, one million people would probably take more space; all the supposed detention camps we see are much less dense than Rikers.
For comparison, San Francisco is 47 square miles. Amsterdam is 64 square miles. You'd literally need detention camps that total the size of San Francisco or Amsterdam to intern one million Uyghurs. It'd be like looking at a map of California. There's Los Angeles. There's San Diego. And look, there's San Francisco Concentration City with its one million Uyghurs.
Literally visible to the naked eye from space.
CHRD states that it interviewed dozens of ethnic Uyghurs in the course of its study, but their enormous estimate was ultimately based on interviews with exactly eight Uyghur individuals. Based on this absurdly small sample of research subjects in an area whose total population is 20 million, CHRD “extrapolated estimates” that “at least 10% of villagers […] are being detained in re-education detention camps, and 20% are being forced to attend day/evening re-education camps in the villages or townships, totaling 30% in both types of camps.” Furthermore, it doesn't even make sense from logistics perspective.
Practically all the stories we see about China trace back to Adrian Zenz is a far right fundamentalist nutcase and not a reliable source for any sort of information. The fact that he's the primary source for practically every article in western media demonstrates precisely what I'm talking about when I say that coverage is divorced from reality.
Zenz is a born-again Christian who lectures at the European School of Culture and Theology. This anodyne-sounding campus is actually the German base of Columbia International University, a US-based evangelical Christian seminary which considers the “Bible to be the ultimate foundation and the final truth in every aspect of our lives,” and whose mission is to “educate people from a biblical worldview to impact the nations with the message of Christ.”
Zenz’s work on China is inspired by this biblical worldview, as he recently explained in an interview with the Wall Street Journal. “I feel very clearly led by God to do this,” he said. “I can put it that way. I’m not afraid to say that. With Xinjiang, things really changed. It became like a mission, or a ministry.”.
Along with his “mission” against China, heavenly guidance has apparently prompted Zenz to denounce homosexuality, gender equality, and the banning of physical punishment against children as threats to Christianity.
Zenz outlined these views in a book he co-authored in 2012, titled Worthy to Escape: Why All Believers Will Not Be Raptured Before the Tribulation. In the tome, Zenz discussed the return of Jesus Christ, the coming wrath of God, and the rise of the Antichrist.
The fact that this nutcase is being paraded as a credible researcher on the subject is absolutely surreal, and it's clear that the methodology of his "research" doesn't pass any kind of muster when examined closely.
It's also worth noting that there is a political angle around the narrative around Xinjiang. For example, George Bush's chief of staff openly saying that US wants to destabilize the region, and NED recently admitting to funding Uyghur separatism for the past 16 years on their own official Twitter page. An ex-CIA operative details US operations radicalizing and training terrorists in the region in this book. Here's an excerpt:
US has been stoking terrorism in the region while they've been running a propaganda campaign against China in the west. In fact, US even classified Uyghur separatists as a terrorist group at one point mintpressnews.com/us-was-at-wa…
Here's an interview with a son of imam killed in Xinjiang news.cgtn.com/news/2020-06-19/…
Here's an account from a Pakistani journalist who has been all over Xinjiang (which borders Pakistan) claims that western media reports on "atrocities" are lies. dailytimes.com.pk/723317/expos…
It's also worth noting that the accusations originate entirely from the west while Muslim majority countries support China, and their leaders have visited Xinjiang many times.
Also notable that whenever western media actually deigns to visit Xinjiang, which is not often, they're unable to produce support for any of their claims of mass imprisonment and oppression, so they opt for insinuations instead apnews.com/article/coronavirus…
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"Making fun of Xi Jinping is racist"
Winnie the Pooh is banned in China because Chinese people were making fun of him that way. I guess Chinese people are racist?
I'm done lmao y'all are insane, I really don't care about a bunch of headlines about Chinese citizens being strongarmed into saying "I love the CCP." There's a reason you can find a lot of Americans talking about how they don't like the American government, and not a lot of Chinese people saying they don't like the Chinese government, and it's not because the Chinese government is perfect. Adolf Hitler won his last election with over 99% of the votes. Do you think that's because he was just such a great political leader?
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It is not human nature in the sense that humans will always do it when the opportunity presents itself.
What would be the best historical example that you can think of? To be specific, what is a historical example of when a country would have benefited from expanding an empire, had the resources and ability to do so, and chose not to for an extended period of time?
That would be a strange form of communism.
Human greed is a base desire that has been a constant throughout our entire history. At some point, you're arguing for a fantasy. Either Communism is a realistic political system that can be implemented with humans as we are, including all of our base animal impulses, or it's a fantasy that requires humans to achieve a higher level of consciousness first or something.
For example, here’s George Bush’s chief of staff openly saying that US wants to destabilize the region, and NED recently admitting to funding Uyghur separatism for the past 16 years on their own official Twitter page.
God damn. I didn’t know the quiet parts had become that out loud. These people suck at their jobs.
“This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated.” No censorship here, though! 😂 Luckily Archive.org still gotchu:
- web.archive.org/web/2024022719…
- Transcript: web.archive.org/web/2024062407…
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Edit to add: I never heard of Factcheck Lab. They’re based out of Hong Kong. Unfortunately I can’t read a lick of Chinese.
- gitlab.com/factchecklab
- Mirror: github.com/factchecklab
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Winnie the Pooh is banned in China
Winnie the Pooh is not banned in China, despite Western propaganda to the contrary.
There’s a reason you can find a lot of Americans talking about how they don’t like the American government, and not a lot of Chinese people saying they don’t like the Chinese government, and it’s not because the Chinese government is perfect.
No government is perfect, but Chinese people like their government a lot more than Americans like theirs for good reason: their material conditions have been steadily improving over the last several decades while ours have been steadily deteriorating under grinding neoliberalism.
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No, not really. You're just memory holing (or are ignorant of) the numerous clandestine operations done by the FBI and the CIA to destroy leftist movements of all stripes in the 20th century alone both abroad and at home. It's an open secret that I suspect most americans are aware of but don't want to actually deal with outside of TV.
MLK had government agents attempt to blackmail him with letters that even told him to commit suicide and ruin his marriage with his wife, he was also beaten and jailed by state governments for his demonstrations. That's just one example, but a very good one considering MLK's character and what he means nowadays to many liberals.
Currently, students across many universities are being targeted for Pro-Palestinian activism and there are laws in many states prohibiting the boycott of Israel for any reason. IDF soldiers are able to speak freely about their crimes but students in makeshift camps have their bodies beaten with batons, all for protesting against a genocide. Interestingly, China doesn't have that problem, which is because contrary to your settler-colonial education, democracy can be practiced without constant violence and danger when the people's demands and desires are actually being met.
China's human rights record is a world above any European/American "Free nation". This cannot be denied or disproved.
This isn't even mentioning the amount of misinformation and hate speech that is regularly distributed in American news media and online platforms which silences voices of vulnerable groups. Trump didn't come from thin air, he comes from the same arrogance you espouse here.
Speech is silenced and censored in America, you're just fine with it.
The threat of nukes is real. I wouldn't expect any major wars between nuclear states right away, but there would be a lot of consolidation of smaller countries without nukes into larger countries with nukes. In this scenario if you're Japan, you will have the option of getting nukes ASAP or deciding if you want to learn Russian or Chinese.
I think it’s naive to think that military conflicts purely arise out of a latent cultural xenophobia
I'm not claiming that only xenophobia leads to military conflicts. It is often used to whip up support for conflicts that people in power want, though.
If you can get your objective without draining massive portions of your economy, then there’s really no reason to, and I don’t think china would have many problems taking really any soft power objective they set their eyes on
Soft power is preferable, yeah. The real measure is when someone has something you want and they say "no".
our economic metrics are so fucked as to be almost certainly useless.
Definitely agree that they're all fucked up. It remains to be seen how much it helps vs hurts though. Like the saying "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent", sometimes the fact that the metrics are all made up can be useful. I say that as someone that doesn't like how little they resemble the real world.
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China is super xenophobic, like many Asian countries.
Those savages. Yeah, that doesn’t sound racist at all, not orientalist at all. Are you Josep Borell?
If China then decided that they want to finish the job on making the Korean peninsula Chinese, who would realistically stop them?
What are you talking about? Koreans are still in Korea, speaking Korean. If it were in China’s “nature” to make Korea Chinese, then why didn’t they do it at any point over the centuries?
Crackkker projecting again
Seems you haven't seen humanity ever in you life so you can't imagine it existing
Sad
ofc china is the best super power in the world!!!
except if you live in africa... or taiwan... or tibet... or mongolia... or hongkong... or you're a uigur... or you're queer... or you're black... or you're a farmer... or you live in a tofu dreg building... or you like human rights... or free press... or privacy...
should I go on?
you see, china does a lot of bad things that don't require bombs, which the us doesn't, but in return they throw bombs, both are just imperialist genocide driving forces, as most states
also china's not that far away from throwing bombs:
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taiwan is not china's own territory
EDIT: also, what nonsense, are you denying the genocide against the uigurs for example?
taiwan is not china’s own territory
Ignoring the historical illiteracy in this assertion, are you claiming that China bombed Taiwan and this is how I'm learning about it and nothing happened?
EDIT: also, what nonsense, are you denying the genocide against the uigurs for example?
Not even your own nazi blood libel propaganda sources are pretending this is a real thing anymore. Give it up.
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There is no community rule against calling people on their bullshit, reporter.
Also, we do indeed deny the bullshit “genocide” against the Uyghurs.
- lemmy.ml/post/22296023/1484060…
- lemmy.ml/post/22296023/1483934…
Ignoring the historical illiteracy in this assertion
most taiwanese people want a own country, that's reason enough to justify them getting one
are you claiming that China bombed Taiwan and this is how I'm learning about it and nothing happened?
no, I said china isn't that far away from bombing other countries, because they tested missiles on taiwanese territory
Not even your own nazi blood libel propaganda sources are pretending this is a real thing anymore. Give it up.
bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-…
so, I speak against genocide, a police state, dropping bombs, pro free speech, and anti imperialist which makes me... ~~an anarchist~~ a "neoliberal nazi"?
no, but seriosly, calling other people on the left nazis is surely something, like seriosly go back to ~~stalin~~lemmygrad, you imperialist genocidal scum
To be blunt, have you? If you had you would know that even among empires not every one behaved with the same level of bloodthirstiness every time. The leap from "people have been violent forever" to "therefore they must be the maximum amount of violent at all opportunities" is totally unsubstantiated.
Sure, what they can get away with to achieve their goals is one factor in how countries behave. But it is totally absurd to suggest that a country's culture would have no impact on the approach they take to foreign affairs. It has dramatic impacts on all their other laws and ways of doing things, by what possible crazy coincidence would foreign policy always be totally identical regardless of culture?
So yeah, things would be different. Way back in this discussion you snarkily characterised a straw man arguing that things would be perfect and people singing kumbaya, but nobody (here arguing against you in this thread) thinks that. This meme is about dropping bombs. We have substantial real world evidence that China does not prefer to take that approach. The USA absolutely does prefer to take that approach, even when other options would be more successful.
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Your posts trend more on the "Communism is good, Capitalism is bad" side than showing straightforward facts like this post, plus the absolutely uncontestable fact is front and center.
Not saying your posts aren't accurate, they are, but agitprop varies in effectiveness.
This was not a defense of the USA you braindead idiot. I did not offer "feeling threatened" as an excuse for the USAs behaviour. The USA is threatened by the mere existence of successful countries that are not hypercapitalist (although tbf the tool used in this case is usually a coup, rather than bombs).
Not all countries consider the same things to be threats.
You're entirely ignoring davel's point. The reason the US bombs is because of what davel calls "Imperialism," and linked to examples of it. What you call "human nature Imperialism" and what davel calls "Imperialism as a stage in Capitalism" are fundamentally different concepts, you're talking past davel, and davel is 100% correct here.
The reason the US bombs countries is not because humans are mean. The US bombs to protect its interests. This you both agree on. However, davel has successfully identified why the US' interests depend on bombing others, and China's interests do not.
To simplifiy davel's point, Capitalism centralizes and spreads, until it spreads along international lines. This results in the country with more Capital leveraging this to gain favorable trade deals, so it can super-exploit foreign countries for super-profits. The bombing the US does is to keep their power projected and punish those turning against it.
China does not have a Capitalist system, it has a Socialist Market Economy. China manufactures the vast majority of its own goods, rather than manufacturing overseas, so its interactions with the Global South have a fundamentally different character. China wants to uplift the Global South so that the Global South buys from China and makes them even more money.
Both countries are acting in their own interests, but because of the structures in place, this results in the US bombing and plundering, and China building up infrastructure and hospitals. Even when China wants resources housed in the Global South, this difference in internal structure makes trade more mutually beneficial, rather than plunderous.
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God you're just trying so hard 😔
[1] China's administrative punishments law. Note the inclusion of 行政拘留 under 第九条.
[2] the carceral outcomes of China's social credit system.
[3] An overview on Baidu of how party members can be held extrajudiciously. Baidu is basically just the Chinese equivalent of Google but they have their own sources cited.
[4] the administrative litigation law outlining the process of claiming compensation for personal acts.
Just produce some evidence. I'm sure it's easy, it's not like you'd have to resort to something weird like pointing at a fraction of a percent difference between censuses as evidence of a genocide.
Just to be clear, that was sarcasm and is what the allegations of genocide are entirely based upon - dig into any allegations of uygher genocide and you can link back to Adrian Zenz's "study".
To be clear, I never said "genocide". I honestly don't know that that word applies to this situation.
For evidence that what's going on is not good, here's one of the first hits I find on searching the internet. It mentions a tribunal in the UK, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International all reaching similar conclusions and I find no mention of Adrian Zenz in the article or on the tribunal's web page nor any mention of population change.
it’s against the law in China to even say you don’t agree with the law
Your link doesn't support this, and it's nonsense on its face, anyway.
"Do not oppose the basic principles established by the Constitution" is not "you can't even say you disagree with the law," as anyone familiar with the difference between a constitution and subordinate forms of laws (e.g., statutes) can tell you. And of course you obviously can say the constitution should be changed; how else do you think they amended it in 2018?
Another factor that contributes to China’s lower incarceration rates is that they often choose not to prosecute “personal” crimes. This would be things like robbery, sexual assault, etc.
Tons of these crimes aren't prosecuted in the U.S., either, especially claims of sexual assault. And here are some sentencing guidelines from China that address both those crimes, which they don't have just for fun.
You probably don't understand Chinese law as much as you think you do, and you're definitely exaggerating the idea that it's uniquely unfair or arbitrary. Pre-trial incarceration happens all over the world, police telling suspects to confess happens all over the world, collateral consequences of arrest and imprisonment happen all over the world.
There's also a ton of context needed to determine whether any of these things are even bad in a given situation. Pre-trial incarceration has all sorts of issues, but if someone goes on a shooting spree and has a history of not showing up to court dates for prior arrests, it's appropriate.
China is not a magical place where everyone just sings kumbaya all day
When you're seriously engaging with what another person is saying
Maybe if you tried even the briefest line of investigation into who any of the groups named are and how they reached their conclusions you wouldn't be embarrassing yourself by naming organisations that are very publically recorded as basing their opinions on his work.
You should be embarrassed at how little effort it took me to find that link.
Either Communism is a realistic political system that can be implemented with humans as we are, including all of our base animal impulses
That is precisely what it is.
or it’s a fantasy that requires humans to achieve a higher level of consciousness first or something.
That is precisely what it is not.
I think there’s ~0% chance you’re interested in understanding dialectical materialism or historical materialism, but I’ll link to this anyway: Elementary principles of philosophy
Those savages
If that's what you jump to, you might want to introspect on that. They're not savages for being xenophobic, that just makes them human like the rest of us.
If it were in China’s “nature”
That paragraph is a commentary on power relations and geography. It's not in "China's nature", but if they decided to invade in a world that looked like ours today but without the US, there would realistically be nobody to stop them. Perhaps North Korean nukes would be enough of a deterrent actually, but shy of that there would be no realistic opposing force.
Why wouldn't I reply to you, while taking a shit? Do you think people with lives don't poop or something?
How embarrassing for you 🫢
I'm not saying "therefore they must be the maximum amount of violent at all opportunities". Can you point to any period in history in which empires were just chill and sung kumbaya all day long, though?
We have substantial real world evidence that China does not prefer to take that approach.
We have zero evidence that China would not take that approach in a world without Pax Americana (as much as I think the term is silly, it's a convenient shorthand). We do have a lot of evidence that China is a normal country like everywhere else and pushes their interests where possible:
I agree on what it is and isn't, but that's the counterpoint to your statement that communism and imperialism don't mix. My assertion is that imperialism is a part of human nature, and so either you acknowledge that communism and imperialism do mix, or that communism isn't realistic for humanity.
I think there’s ~0% chance you’re interested in understanding [..]
It's hard to convey over text on the internet, but I am actually interested in better understanding the world. As much as I think places like Hexbear are silly, it's useful to encounter worldviews so alien. I really hate low-effort "dunking" even if it's something I agree with, because you can't learn anything from that and it loses all nuance.
If that’s what you jump to, you might want to introspect on that. They’re not savages for being xenophobic, that just makes them human like the rest of us.
You are the one saying that they are xenophobic, and I reject your racist, orientalist, essentialist claim. Yours is an idealist position, not a materialist one, yet you’re the one trying to argue that communism as idealist.
It’s not in “China’s nature”, but if they decided to invade in a world that looked like ours today but without the US, there would realistically be nobody to stop them.
You say, “if they decided.” What’s the point of this hypothetical? You’re doing a lot of mental gymnastics to construct a straw man.
Materially, they're xenophobic, like the rest of humanity. Claiming that they're uniquely not xenophobic is racist in its own way.
They've decided before. So has Japan. But you're missing the point here. It's not about likelihood of it happening, it's about what's possible today vs possible in a changed world.
I'll try stating it another way. If the US got busy with a civil war for the next few years and I was in a leadership position of say Korea or Japan, I would be pushing for a nuclear program posthaste, because that's the only real deterrent.
So essentially your reply is to ignore analyzing why the US acts in the way it does materially, and why the PRC acts the way it does materially, and instead analyze based on vibes and some deterministic idea that Chinese people will turn to conquest even if it benefits them more to continue down their current path?
This is absurd. Analyze why things happen like we have, otherwise you have nothing.
funny 'cause when i was in china there was winnie the pooh merch in like every fuckin' store
you're full of shit and you just parrot clickbait youtube talking points instead of doing any actual research, but you're named after some libertarian right shit so i guess that tracks
They're still imperialist, they just don't have the power to effect it as well as they have historically:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_…
They lost out to bigger imperialists in the 19th century. Now, they're recovering and behaving exactly as you'd expect if they're still imperialist, just with less power (but growing).
EDIT: Fixed link above to be direct
That's a link to a wikipedia segment saying a Western Imperialist think tank has accused China of slowly going bit by bit to get larger gains than had they gone all at once. That isn't proof of the PRC hyper-exploiting the Global South for Super Profits via the export of Capital, nor proof of anything. It's an accusation from a biased source.
You are clearly rejecting the definition of Imperialisn davel, I, and other Marxists use. Whether it's intentional or not I don't know, but if it is, why have a conversation with us? You haven't proven that the PRC is Imperialist, just that it acts in its own interests, which we all agree about. Davel and I have just pointed out that the structure of the economic system of the PRC means it is moving to uplift the Global South so they can buy more from the PRC, rather than bomb them to death and hyper-exploit their workers like the West does.
I'm using a common definition of imperialism. If you wish to redefine it so that it can't be applied to your favorite imperialists, you need to justify that redefinition. To me, you haven't. Here's Wikipedia's definition. Whether or not you agree with it isn't really the point, it's a common definition and if you want to use it in a different meaning, you should make that clear upfront and/or justify the new usage:
Imperialism is maintaining or extending power over foreign nations, particularly through expansionism, employing both hard power (military and economic power) and soft power (diplomatic power and cultural imperialism). Imperialism focuses on establishing or maintaining hegemony and a more or less formal empire.
I guess you could call that intentional? Intentionally doing the thing that makes sense, i.e. using the common definition, which is kind of a weird use of the word. At any rate, I'm having a conversation with you because you've been giving thoughtful replies, as much as we disagree with each other. This is the sort of discussion that is actually worth having. As hard as it is to talk about these things over text, I think this has actually been productive. I wouldn't have known that you're using a different definition of imperialism otherwise, for example. That is one of the hardest things when trying to communicate, is using the same words but talking past each other.
The article btw doesn't just reference western think tanks. India for example, has accused China of the same behavior. Many of their neighbors have accused them of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_… as well. I also edited the link above to point at the main article, instead of a section that links to it.
I guess as long as we can agree that the PRC is acting in its own interests. I just have less faith in humanity than you do, I guess.
I already explained that what you use as "Imperialism" and what davel and I have been explaining is different, and I explained that the Marxist definition is better because it can accurately explain why the US is working in the way it is and why China is not. Even if you wish to claim the Marxist definition is "Extraction" or some other term, China still isn't Imperialist by your definition, because it isn't advantageous to be!
Again, to simplify:
Davel and I are explaining that it is in China's material intetestd to mutually cooperate with the Global South because a strong Global Soutb can buy more goods from the PRC, which focuses on exporting commodities.
Similarly, the US' material interests are dominating the Global South because it focuses on exporting Capital.
You have no counter to this so far, other than you don't "trust" China because in the past, under an entirely different Mode of Production, China has been Imperialist. This is a weaker explanation than ours, because our analysis focuses on mechanics while yours focuses on ideas.
Secondly, India has pivoted towards increased mutual cooperation with the PRC and has stepped down on its claims of aggression, and turned more away from the US. That point no longer really stands.
I don't necessarily have faith in "humanity," but economic systems and material interests. China has no material reason to turn to Imperialism (or "Extraction") while the US does and has. Simple as that.
No, you're right. People with lives don't know how to use toilets.
You'd make for the absolute saddest sequel to Pixar's Inside Out. You're trying so hard for these zingers but there's just nobody home in there.
Can you point to any period in history in which empires were just chill and sung kumbaya all day long, though?
Ok, you just keep doubling down on straw men and not actually responding to any points made, so I guess we're done here.
If you want power over another country, attacking them is a very inefficient path. You will take losses, and you won't be able to take their resources intact. The easier and cheaper method is to just bribe their leaders into selling you whatever you want.
The US starts wars even when it doesn't need to, because there are a handful of companies that stand to make a lot of money selling weapons. No other country has such a large and influential military lobby, so other countries tend not to start wars for private profit.
You make it sound like a few min on the shitter a day is a big investment. I sit down, see an unread message and I reply.
I'm not being especially clever, all I do is give you a little rope and you keep hanging yourself 🤷
China is super xenophobic
This is really really not true. Anyone that has actually visited China or engages regularly with Chinese people knows it's not really true. It's the kind of shit people who don't question anything see in a reddit comment and then accept as fact because it confirms racist biases you already have that you've not had questioned or self-examined within yourself.
You should question this. You should re-examine this view. You should self-crit. You're talking about the largest marxist country in the world, where marx is taught in schools and universities, where a marxist-leninist party leads, and where the established ideology of internationalism continues to progress. It's just so utterly out of touch with what China actually is.
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