Git is far from user friendly but that's a design consideration from a decentralized architecture. Fossil will have the same considerations. People need to learn how to use Git.

The problem is there's only one person who really knows how to use it: Linus.

So GIT has a ticketting system, a Wiki, Bug-tracker built-into it along with a Version-tracker

It also has a Sync All command (I'm sure Git also has it Somewhere)
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I'm so fuckin tired of hearing x is user unfriendly, it's not intuitive enough.

Like fuckin yeah. Sometimes you have to actually learn something new to use something new when I first started driving it wasn't user friendly. I had to learn how to do it

Am I missing something?

No and, in fact, this was (and still is) a selling point of Git over the alternatives (e.g. Subversion) available at the time that required you to "check out" some code and no one else could check out/modify that code while you had it checked out.

Rebasing is for advanced git users who knows what he's doing. If one does not know how to use it or not feeling comfortable in general, he can happily take his own code and try to merge it into the latest version instead. No one is judging.

For the rest of the world where projects are open-source, more often than not, not those projects inside a corporation where only the team lead is making decisions, it's a powerful tool to settle down conflicts sort out history.

One does not need to change the history again, if he's not comfortable with it. Just use git as if it's centralised VCS like SVN. No big deal. In fact, in corporations you do. There only needs to be one person who manages the repository.

Do you live in a world where storage is expensive or rare? Because I more or less forgot the meaning of deleting files.

Also git does support the git protocol as a server if you really need it.

As in it's literally Github-in-a-box you can spin up a web-server with a command

(Imagine a git serve command that launches your GitHub instance)

Oh Yeah I like Pijul as well & I fully agree with your point of breaking the Git Hedgemony

BTW, tell me more about Darcs I want to know
EDIT: Boy GIT-Fanboys are clearly mad about other VCSs existing😅

1995 is new to you? SSH is useful for way more thing than version control, you should be using it when interacting with remote servers in one way or another.

You must be trolling. I can't believe you just said that SSH is NOT the battle tested one. I just looked it up, git released in 2005 and fossil in 2006, it's the newer tool! So, to your comment, literally no U.

I really don't need github in a box sir. I can use the command line just fine and if I need more my code editor interacts with git I show me a fine interface just fine. Spinning up a local web server to see how the vc is going seems like bloat. The Linux mantra is for each tool to be centralised around one task and fossil seems to be overreaching. It looks like they decided on the name appropriately, some old thing not relevant anymore the no one has heard about in a long time, a fossil.

Addendum: You know that most lemmy clients, even the webview, don't render the HTML tags, right?

I ‘forgot’ it on purpose.

The compatibility with Git means it is ultimately shackled to the design decisions fundamental to Git which require hacky workarounds. The maker of Pijul has pointed out some of the fundamental ways it can never handle patches is the manner of Darcs/Pijul, but I am not in the position to pull some of these quotes.

I would rather see revolution over evolution, & the weird ties to Google & hosting the project Microsoft GitHub rub me wrong.

That's cuz most devs are incompetent & unskilled code-monkeys,
First of all it's the UNIX philosophy not Linux & Who decided on what mantra to use ?

Oh right you apparently

Fossil can track what you did, Git cannot & as for your Editor what does it do with Git anyway ?

The last time I checked Just because storage is cheap (it's not where I live) doesn't give you the excuse to create/use unomptimized garbage

All GIT does is versioning (which is Fine), Fossil comparitively has more features that GIT should have but doesn't (like a "Sync all" repos)

HTTPS has way too much bloat for it to be relevant where SSH is used. Its a protocol to send hypertext in a secure way, SSH is a secure shell. Saying that we should use https out of all tools as a SSH replacement is wild.

I call you a troll because is my kindest way to say that these opinions that you have are so out of touch with development since more than 30 years that your opinions are just wrong and you are saying them with such conviction that either you are intentionally misleading others for laughs (a troll) or it's a worse alternative. Yeah I was avoiding having to scrutinize your inability to recognize how the programming world has evolved in the last 30 years. Hell, mobile phones didn't really exist 30 years ago!

git is exactly as unfriendly as a distributed source control system that doesn’t shy away from power user commands needs to be

… sure it’s difficult to comprehend, but yknow what’s worse? getting into a bullshit situation and having broken garbage repos in every other “user friendly” system on the planet

Why should git have a mediocre ticketing system instead of getting out of the way of dedicated ticketing systems?

Small personal projects just need a text file with a Todo list, large organisations might need something super heavy weight like Jira. If your VCS has a ticketing system it's going to be dead weight for a large chunk of users, because there's no one-size fits all solution.

The binary executable for Fossil is a single file (repos are also single files, sqlite databases). That one executable does all the VCS functions but it also has a built-in web server that will host repos as a little customizable website. That's how you access the wiki, chat, forums, and ticketing system. You can also configure the repo, view timelines, view code, and all that stuff.

One can set up a proxy and publicly self-host the repo over the internet. That's what the official fossil site is, a hosted repo of it's own source code. I didn't feel like setting up a local web host, an ngnx reverse proxy, figuring out vpn for remote access, etc etc. So i just use synching and only run locally, because it's easier for me.

That's another nice thing about fossil, it's quite flexible and can grow with the needs of the project.

Cathedral-style coding isn’t very Open-Source

Cathedral vs bazaar is about development process, nothing to do with source code availability.

Git uses ~~mergetools~~, which do whatever you make them to. Patches can be created from snapshots, but snapshots are not guaranteed to be creatable from patches - you might not have original state.

EDIT: it uses merge drivers.

Specific merge tool can throw fits. Git doesn't care about specifics of how merge operation is done, it just tells to merge driver to merge three files(A, B and common ancestor) and stops if driver reports an error.

Also to correct myself: merge driver, not mergetool.

You'll actually have to talk to the devs to be included in the project
This VCS favours a more horizontal organization where the devs know each other (so A high-trust environment)

Please don't pretend as if OpenSource Devs don't constantly complain about pesky PRs😅

Please don't pretend as if OpenSource Devs don't constantly complain about pesky PRs😅

I've seen much more complaints about people constantly demanding their specific

annoyances

to be fixed without ever submitting a single line of code. Maintainers are pretty much universally welcoming to code

contributions

I soooo hope this does something funky with someone's Lemmy client