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I just had a look, nothing has changed, the website is still using Lemmy's content to pretend to be active
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Den vedervärdige HVB-chefen. ETC har publicerat ett bra reportage om en man som först arbetade på ett SIS-hem och misskötte det på det allra grövsta sätt. Han fick sluta men fick då istället anställning på ett privat HVB-hem där han fortsatte med sin tradition av att allvarligt missköta verksamheten.
I present: Managarr with Sonarr support!
I was recently furloughed from work, so in between job applications, I decided to polish off Sonarr support in my Managarr TUI. Thus, I'm very proud to announce the beta release of Managarr with Sonarr support!
TL;DR: Managarr is a TUI and CLI for managing your Servarr instances. As of now, it now supports both Radarr and Sonarr and all the features that are available in the UI are also available in the CLI for scripting and additional automation.
The new version has the following features:
- Wider platform support (Windows, Mac, Linux, x86_64 and arm64)
- View your library, downloads, blocklist, episodes
- View details of a specific series, or episode including description, history, downloaded file info, or the credits
- View your host and security configs from the CLI to programmatically fetch the API token, among other settings
- Search your library
- Add series to your library
- Delete series, downloads, indexers, root folders, and episode files
- Trigger automatic searches for series, seasons, or episodes
- Trigger refresh and disk scan for series and downloads
- Manually search for series, seasons, or episodes
- Edit your series and indexers
- Manage your tags
- Manage your root folders
- Manage your blocklist
- View and browse logs, tasks, events queues, and updates
- Manually trigger scheduled tasks
- Manually trigger scheduled tasks
- And more!
Here's some screenshots of the Sonarr tab:
Thanks to everyone's feedback when I first posted the alpha release here, this version sports a handful of additional performance improvements and platform support.
This is now technically in beta, so if anyone encounters any issues, please let me know!
Thank you so much! I was wondering if anyone had been using it more consistently because I was waiting for more bug reports to come in but haven't yet. I started thinking, "There's no way I didn't miss something. I gotta figure out how to break it! 😂
I'm so glad you like it and use it!
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Cool stuff, thanks.
Now if Sonarr didn't depend on a .NET version that is EOL... recently deactivated it for that reason
So I'm currently building the package, and there's one thing that irks me a bit about it, which is that you first tagged your release as 0.4.1 and then changed your Cargo.toml… which means that if you check out that tag on GitHub, the information is always one release behind. This also seemed to be the case with other releases (0.4.0 shows as 0.3.7, 0.3.7 as 0.3.6…). From the commit history, this also seems to affect Cargo.lock, so we're always getting the lock file for the previous release when checking out the tag. Not ideal
An issue with the program itself: it will always show servers for both radarr and sonarr, regardless if you have them configured or not. Switching to an unconfigured one will yield an error for missing configuration. The program itself looks nice, though I'd prefer if there was the option to respect my shell's color theme.
Thanks for pointing out the tagging bug. I just pushed out the fix to the release pipeline to correct that.
As for the configuration, it's quite funny you mention that because I just earlier today pushed out the fix for that and I plan to have it as part of the next release. The fix being, that the UI dynamically changes based on what Servarrs you have in your config file.
And as for the color theme, that's an interesting thought. I'll look into it now!
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it. And seriously, thanks for catching that tagging bug. That's definitely not ideal...
No worries, I look forward to using this in the future :) (though probably rarely, I don't use my *arr stack often)
Once you have pushed your next release, I'll submit the package definition I wrote to nixpkgs, currently worked around the ordering by checking out two commits after the tag, but since there's no rush to push this, I'll wait for the next release.
{
lib,
fetchFromGitHub,
rustPlatform,
perl,
}:
let
pname = "managarr";
version = "0.4.1";
in
rustPlatform.buildRustPackage {
inherit pname version;
src = fetchFromGitHub {
owner = "Dark-Alex-17";
repo = pname;
rev = "df9bba32cb1628fe0bdf33c71089d7ae085066d4";
hash = "sha256-2KWuqv0nxMc+H+lmuNQ0lbEm5yE2akuZTa7PT5JcvBs=";
};
cargoHash = "sha256-hB4uRgVUp6YngMoXqd03U/n+HdlcYdL5bwvTxI4xCLE=";
nativeBuildInputs = [ perl ];
meta = {
description = "A TUI and CLI to manage your Servarrs";
homepage = "https://github.com/Dark-Alex-17/managarr";
license = lib.licenses.mit;
maintainers = [ ];
};
}
No, but I will try to incorporate the nixpkgs update script into it now that the metadata is fixed for the release. I'm not a nixpkgs maintainer (yet) though but usually this is close to automatic.
If you want, you can also submit and maintain the package, or I can put us both as maintainers
Given that I can't really see what would change in Managarr that would require additional changes in the Nix package, I see no reason not to have us both as maintainers, especially since I don't currently have Nix installed. (It's high up on my to-do list, don't worry! I know I'll like it!)
Are there any files that would need to be checked into the repo so we can maintain an official package for it?
Cargo.lock is the only relevant optional one for Rust packages and that is already there, so we should be good. I'll request it tomorrow if someone else doesn't beat me to it ;)
Thanks for doing the legwork on this! I would definitely be a bit out of my depth on that PR without actually having Nix installed 😂.
Once it's merged I'll update the README to mention the Nix installation method.
Skottlossning i Frölunda. Igår kväll fick polisen in larm om skottlossning i eller invid Ruddalen nära Frölunda torg. Larmet kom ungefär tjugo i tio på kvällen. En stor polisresurs skickades till platsen och en skottskadad man hittades snart.
Bet, it's just been like a hundred comments of the same three talking points from liberals in .world. The reason it's not just bad because it's a "bigger authority" is because of the class character of the state, as well as the subject of the oppression. Lenin dedicated an entire book to the subject, State and Revolution. As to how it applies to China and why popular support among a revolutionary government despite capital and billionaires being allowed to exist, one of the best pieces I've ever read on the subject is this redsails.org/china-has-billion…
It's good that there's a bigger authority than capital, the party rules through popular consent, and they chose Xi Jinping as well as the people that do the actual legwork of the anti corruption drive to be the executors of that will. If the US had a popular mandate that prevented corporate abuses, Luigi Mangione wouldn't have needed to be incarcerated, he would have already gotten his surgery.
Still not a liberal
Conservatism is a form of liberalism.
Please show your work. What is the proof that it was done to consolidate power?
This isn't to mention that your use of the word authority is strange. How exactly do you determine who has more authority between a US house representative vs. a CEO?
And again, it’s not like there could be selection biases in a Harvard study. That absolutely never happens.
Jesus dude, just admit that nothing could ever be enough to change your mind.
Not that either.
Why is that I must belong to either of those ideologies? Is it so you can have pre conceived notions a our who I must be in the other side?
As I if can't disagree on the minutia and still be in general in agreement?
It never ends and it's never so simple.
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how could a Marxist ever get confused by China's imperialist and state capitalist tendencies? You must be a lib.
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Ok, you’re definitely a liberal, if you were anything else you’d just say it, rather than doing this coy bullshit.
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Or you never asked and you just kept pushing labels on me that aren't correct. So, I kept pointing out they weren't correct.
Edit: also you replied to not me.
I made a response, then quoted it when someone made a response ignoring it.
I'm not sure why you are confused by this.
Cause you are still wrong. That's kinda the whole point. You'd rather be wrong and feel right. It's completely unproductive even to yourself.
You got to be willing to ask and listen to other points of view and respond to that. That's having a conversation and getting more out of this world else wise it's still just you vs everyone and everyone who thinks they are in the "in" group until they aren't.
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Cause it wasn't me. And I think you thought it was even though they made mention of Marxism and other points.
I'm confused cause it's confusing. As if you are just trying to cover for something that didn't quite work out and doesn't quite make sense.
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It is not defined by it being present even in the microscopic.
Yeah, China does not have a 'microscopic' amount of commodity production, it is infact, dominated by commodity production.
Answer, why do you think Marx and Engels wrong in the context of my quotations?
They aren't in that a certain level of productive forces are required to be present before the early stages of communism (socialism) can begin. No nation state has ever reached Socialism, in fact, it is impossible for a "Nation State" to really be socialist, from Engels principles of communism:
Will it be possible for this revolution to take place in one country alone?No.
China is a bourgeoisie nation state, with a DoTB like every other nation state.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_work…
This system would NOT be possible in a DoTP.
Surely we are not expected to blindly trust this claim
Why not? They did when the CIA told it [to the journalists that repeated it] to them.
The comment I replied to says:
Working class rebel vs Elite class looking for more control
Notice the part highlighted in bold. I am asking for proof of this. In other words, proof that the Chinese government executed CEOs only because they sought "more control". Surely we are not expected to blindly trust this claim, right?
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I swear to god ultras are more interested in the sort of masturbatory philosophising of categories than it actually producing any useful insights.
It's the most anti Marxist thing to insist that a thing has to be only a singular thing with a concrete and rigid definition, it's like Marx didn't bludgeon you with dialectical materialism hard enough on practically every work of his. He spends decades insisting on the dialectical process and the necessary work to resolve contradiction through material means, which is an integral part of development, only for y'all to go "but this is vaguely like thing, how can it be other thing?"
Man said communism and the abolishment of the commodity form, of private property, the development of the productive forces, couldn't be achieved overnight, and every ultra went "but it's already been overnight, so now it can be, right?"
China has all the elements of a capitalist mode of production
It does when you ignore all the material differences. A state where the biggest capital holders are regularly punished if they break the law or step out of line politically is not a state where capital has final say.
There's been no counter revolution in China, the organs of proletarian power remain in place even as reforms have been undertaken in every facet of life in China. It is the utmost chauvinism to pretend to know better than the biggest communist party in the world where even local officials are required to study Marxism diligently. Being really confident and having misunderstood Das Kapital to be a prescriptivist economical taxonomy doesn't make you an authority on Marxism. Applying that shit is what does.
Xi executed CEO's that poisoned babies with lead.
What did the US do to the CEO that poisoned American babies?
Nothing.
A state where the biggest capital holders
So you admit it is capitalist?
are regularly punished if they break the law or step out of line politically is not a state where capital has final say.
The state are capitalists, they employ workers in state enterprises and pay them a wage in exchange for their labor. They are just a different aristocratic rank then the private capitalists
There’s been no counter revolution in China, the organs of proletarian power remain in place even as reforms have been undertaken in every facet of life in China.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_work…
This system would NOT be possible in a DoTP.
Because the Chinese state has fiat monetary sovereignty, it doesn’t function in the capitalist mode. It has no need to make a profit because it has infinite money[1]. It doesn’t need to extract surplus value from workers, and it doesn’t even need to break even. The logic of capitalism doesn’t apply.
So you admit it is capitalist?
Are you twelve? Jfc.
It's obvious you're skimming a comment for gotchas, so I find it just as likely you've skimmed excerpts of Marx rather than take on the rather arduous task of reading and understanding him, let alone fucking applying any of it
Infantile disorder moment.
“996” was never legal,
Cool. Union-busting is illegal in the US too. Not paying overtime is illegal in the US too. Doesn't make it DoTP.
was never pervasive
Proof?
and the state cracked down on it years ago.
Proof?
was never pervasiveProof?
It was a private tech industry thing, occurring within the relevant special economic zones. The same NATOpedia entry you posted: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_work…
and the state cracked down on it years ago.Proof?
Again, the same NATOpedia entry you posted.
Because the Chinese state has fiat monetary sovereignty, it doesn’t function in the capitalist mode.
Yeah all nation states have this. Countries that don't call themselves socialist have state owned enterprise and turn a profit. Non-seqitur.
All states don’t have it, actually. None of the Eurozone states do, for instance, and the US didn’t until 1971.
You don’t seem to be engaging with the content I’ve posted, but here’s one by Gabriel Rockhill anyway:
So it’s planned economy that you’re disputing
I really can’t think of any proof that you would believe if you’re disputing that
My friend, you're the one who's actively denying the opinions of the Chinese people I know, while pushing a Harvard study on my face. And then calling me racist/chauvinistic. I am not sure how that helps your case, but I guess just spouting random nonsense is your idea of a conversation.
To help you out, I have taken some time to find some of the articles from the time I was in SG, and cases I discussed. These are the articles.
bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-chin…
economist.com/china/what-peng-…
theguardian.com/world/2022/oct…
Most of the people I talked to related with these incidents, and acknowledged that while they may not the be the norm, they're certainly not anomalies. And a lot of people dont come out because the government reacts in such dracnonian ways.
The people I talked to were not representative of all of China, it would be ridiculous to consider that. However, ignoring multiple unrelated people sharing similar stories would be an asinine thing.
If your response is going to be a an aggregate study about economic development, and ask me why would people be unhappy with that, then you need some sort of help to understand that economic freedom is not the only freedom in the world.
I have shared some articles on China's crackdown on dissent here. Will you will change your mind after reading them?
The PRC has a hair over 50% of its economy in the Public Sector, and another near tenth in the Cooperative Sector. The Private Sector makes up the minority of the economy. Furthermore, this Private Sector is gradually being folded into the Public Sector. Moreover, the Public Sector has key industries like Steel that the Private Sector must rely on, further making the Public Sector primary. In what manner is the Private Sector dominant? At what arbitrary point would you say the PRC needs to reach for it to pass your imaginary thresholds? This is silly, and anti-Marxist.
Your next paragraph elaborates on your conflation of Socialism with Communism. Communism must be international, and must be global, eventually. Socialism can begin in one country, as Socialism is the transitional phase to Communism. By your definition, a fully socialized economy in one country would still be Capitalist! Again, you directly shatter Marx and Engels telling you that under the DotP, Capital will be wrested gradually with the degree to which it develops, and call this phase "Capitalism" for seemingly no other reason than to discredit AES, even if it ends in absurd conclusions like a 99% socialized global economy being Capitalist, or a 100% socialized country being Capitalist.
This "no true Socialism" stance is anti-Marxist as well, Marx referred to the Paris Commune as a DotP and a Socialist system until it was overthrown. Even if we ignore all of AES that Marx never lived to, there has been Socialism even by Marx's words. Same with Engels, who analyzed Utopian Socialists who were working down the wrong path, but still could be considered "Socialist."
Additionally, productive forces have different levels of development in different sectors where public ownership and central planning makes more sense. There isn't such thing as a "general" level of development. Your steel industry may be well developed and thus easily planned, but your automotive may not be yet, at which point you want to use markets to centralize and then gradually increase control and ownership over that industry until its fully socialized. To go further than reality is anti-Marxist.
Further, you reference a joke, and not actual working hours, when trying to discredit the PRC. Furthermore, such a system absolutely can be present in a DotP, a DotP does not mean there is suddenly a "worker's paradise," but that the Proletariat is in control. The CPC has an over 95% approval rate, unheard of in most countries, and it owes this to the rapid transformative capacity of a Socialist economy to rapidly plan and build up infrastructure, and eliminate poverty. I want to stress, you opt to not analyze the structures and class dynamics at play, and instead believe you can reference a joke about how the PRC isn't a wonderland, not actual working hour statistics, and think that means the Bourgeoisie is in control? This is absurdity.
You have no points, Socialism is Communism for you, and you refer to a DotP with a largely publicly owned and centrally planned economy that is further absorbing the Private Sector as "Capitalist." Can you please make a point that logically follows what Marx and Engels were writing and explain why they clearly stated that the DotP will gradually wrest Capital from the Bourgeoisie, and why you believe this phase to be called "Capitalism?" This reeks of Trotskyism, which coincidentally is only really found in western countries as it isn't practical in any capacity and thus isn't dangerous to the status quo, and moreover adopts an anti-solidarity stance with AES in the Global South.
who otherwise run rampant in countries like the US, this is a good thing
Billionaires are not fine in any of the cases, neither when they run rampant or when they are subdued by the government to support their agenda and narrative. You can not take two bad cases A and B and then say B is not A therefore it is good. That is a logical fallacy.
you also expect a Communist revolution in the US for the next 4 years?
I don't expect a communist revolution in the US for the next 4 years, all I am saying is that I expect them to subdue billionaires into obedience like China does. That is not communism to me. Whatever the overall arching goal of China and USA is for subduing millionaires, I think they meet in the common denominator: wanting have absolute control everything and I think there is a word for that kind of state.
How on Earth is Trump going to wrangle billionaires under him when the entire US state apparatus is designed from the ground up to represent billionaire interests?
Whether or not Trump will be able to achieve it we will see. But he can still do it in a way that represents billionaire interests: all he has to do is convince the billionaires that it is in their interest to support him. It will likely through mixtures of bribery and intimidation attempts. Of course billionaires might get threatened by him and try to burn him to the ground as well.
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- How do you get rid of Billionaires while remaining interlocked in a global economy and not suffer from Capital Flight and Brain Drain? Decouple and go the same way as the USSR? Ultraleftists like yourself reject Marx and let right take priority over what's possible at the present moment, and risk the entire Socialist project.
- What has given you the impression that the US government can subdue Billionaires, let alone will? The last time Trump was in power the opposite was the case, and that has consistently been true for every presidency.
- This is silly. Trump is in this to get rich, his interests are in billionaires getting richer. He isn't going to "subdue" anyone for those aims.
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Interlocked in a global economy is an understatement for a country in which millions of its citizens work for US based multinational enterprises owned by billionaires. They are at this state organic extensions of each other, cut one out and the other likely dies. Very similar to clothing sector in India, Bangladesh etc but for other sectors (like electronics I suppose).
The question you asked is a difficult one I will give you that. I have no dreams (well I mean sometimes I do but don't believe the practicality of it) of getting rid of all billionaires all at once. It is a bit like cancer I guess which must operated on surgically. Going to a billionaire free society is one of the many possible pathways that can lead from subduing billionaires. But at this point all you are presenting me with is the possible good-will of Chinese government. A more simplest explanation is that it simply is a very authoritarian government.
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Can? I don't know. I believe Trump will try. And he will try precisely because of the reasons you have presented. US is run by billionaires, if you subdue billionaires then you are the most powerful man in US. I think Trump is deluded enough to try this given that Elon likely also shares the same goal with him, perhaps even more enthusiastic than Trump about it. As I said above, there may be many reasons why a government tries to subdue billionaires, getting rid of them is just one of many such reasons.
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Well after you subdue the billionaires, it is entirely up to you to decide how to use that power. Trump will %100 sure use it to get more powerful himself, might even try to change things so that he can be a president the next term as well. In the simplest cases, he will make forced deals that will immensely benefit the businesses he owns (well now his sons "own" them if you believe that).
- You are correct that the PRC's economy is tied with the rest of the world. This is by design. The PRC witnessed the fall of the USSR in real time, and decided to take the opposite approach while still working towards Socialism: make themselves the producers of the world so the US can't directly oppose them. This has paid off in spades. Further, what is "authoritarian?" What mechanically gives rise to that, why does it exist, and why is it bad? Is there an arbitrary level where democracy turns to authoritarianism?
- I would love to see any proof behind this other than vibes. Until then, the logical conclusion is likely the correct one.
- Same as 2, I would love to see any proof that isn't just vibes.
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So it’s planned economy that you’re disputing
No.
My question is very clear, why can't you address it without pretending I asked something else?
Again, you made the claim that CEO executions were made for the reason of seeking more control. Please provide proof that they were done for this reason and not any other reason. I have not asked for planned economy proof or anything else.
If your next comment does not answer my question, then you are being intentionally misleading
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Why is it bad? Well most people who like authoritarian governments because they are allured its power and efficiency only do so until freedom to do something they really care about is taken away from them because it is deemed "harmful" to the society at large. So if you don't realize why a very authoritarian government is bad, either you or your kids are yet to realize why.
The questions you have asked could probably fill text books and by no means by me and I would agree there is no red line which separates non-authoritarian from authoritarian. All law making states are authoritarian to some extent. I did however say "very" authoritarian, and in my mind there are more clear signs of such a government: holding state above the law, subduing sources of power by carrot and stick and amassing them by your side, subduing media to create your own narrative, creating the notion of "external and internal enemies" and using that as casus belli to declare war on parts of your own country that don't agree with you. A succinct summary could be abusing power to stay in power.
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I mean, to start with, obviously there won't be any proofs but more likely clues, especially this early on. Here are some clues:
a- To start with he has (or thinks has) subdued Elon:
by probably promising him government contracts and a "say at the table". Elon likely has his own plans and thinks this arrangement is temporary (given his extremely inflated sense of self importance I don't think he will see him self as support billionaire to Trump forever). Even by US standards a billionaire being so intertwined with a president is a new low and is a sign of things that are going to change (for the worse).
b- Many companies that have previously withheld their ADs from twitter because of Elon's misinformation campaigns and fascists rants are now coming back one by one:
ft.com/content/34b6fc20-23f7-4…
This is a form of favour seeking and kissing the ring. This means, at least locally in time, they are subdued (or acting as if subdued). They might or might not have their own agenda we will see.
c- Trump's pick for the cabinet:
theguardian.com/us-news/2024/d…
If when I say subdue you understand that Trump seizing a billionaires assets and companies then that is wrong. He is subduing them by saying "either side with me or you will lose a seat at the table filled by your rivals and they will make sure you will perish".
d- Other tech companies have already started to lick his feet because they know if they don't the consequences will be dire for them:
cnbc.com/2024/12/13/tech-compa…
And I am not talking about the inauguration fund (which existed before Trump and is just a proof of what a circus US is). I am talking about the way CEOs of these companies are reacting to the election results:
“President Trump will lead our country into the age of AI, and I am eager to support his efforts to ensure America stays ahead,” Altman said"
Now again, to some extend all of these existed in the US before: rewarding billionaires who have supported the presidential campaign. But never before this directly, this early on and so fiercely. Trump hasn't even taken office yet but people are scrambling to prove their loyalty to him. This is much different than the "favour seeking" that existed before in the US.
- This is all wishy-washy vibes based analysis, though, which is why I urged you to take a materialist perspective. None of your comment answers that.
- Trump is explicitly hand-picked by the bourgeoisie to fulfill their will, as has been the case with all US presidents. He is not above them, but a servant to them and their interests.
Which part?
Calling out a world leader economic, manufacturing state for their mistreatment of their citizens instead of holding up needless national pride for a country I don't even live in? Cause you are a classic Nationalist.
Heck you might even be Nationalist Socialist at the rate you push specifics onto others that don't match to alleviate your own desire of the world.
Which comments cause you keep just shouting an insult to feel right then high fiving yourself. We can all see you masturbating publicly to this sense of superiority I just am waiting for the post nut clarity to get you to even point out your logic.
If it’s a planned economy then the government controls it
You’re just saying the same thing
He specifically doesn't want to hear anything that doesn't confirm his world view and in being loud about it it's getting him likes from his in-group which he thinks is all he needs and makes him superior.
You can see it in the way he responds to everyone with either the idea they fully agree with him or are deserving of indignation.
Wait till he finds out even his echo chamber doesn't pass the purity test and God forbid he ever fail it himself.
Also I swear the amount of small business owners I know in Singapore who agree they live there for a better life is wild if you know anything about the authoritarian lean of Singapore. Grass is always greener and all that.
Wishy-washy? Sure buddy. And hoping that China after decades of slaving away its citizen to US billionaires, building a highly authoritarian surveillance state that has state controlled media, state controlled billionaires will slowly work its way towards socialism isn't wishy washy. Based on what? Approval polls? Keep telling yourself generations of wasted lives will be all worth it once China turns into a gloriously socialist welfare state. If we are talking about an ant colony kind of socialism maybe. Even then not completely accurate. It is more like an ant colony where the queen allocated generations of its population to be eaten by the ant eaters so that they become weak and dependant on them and can't destroy the colony lol. By exploiting its population and building superbly oppressive and authoritarian state, China has become a leading country in tech and science. I will give you that. But that only means we can bet on which of US or China turns first into a high tech dystopian surveillance state.
Regarding Trump we will have to agree to disagree and see. My opinion is that Trump and definitely Elon is not in this to get a more richer in the next four years and then quietly part ways with their newly gained wealth once the presidency is finished.
Thank you for your comment. From my skimming of the articles you sent, they seem to argue that the state has a track record of cracking down on dissent and protests.
I'm not sure this proves your initial claim though (that CEO executions were done to combat government criticism), unless there's a detail in these articles that I missed by skimming too fast. Please let me know if I missed it.
While your claim is plausible, it is also equally plausible that they are acting within the defines of their state ideology, and we would need more evidence to prove it is one or the other.
Disclaimer: I only skimmed the articles and did not attempt to verify the evidence they present, as it didn't seem that they are addressing your initial claims.
Who gives a shit about purity tests? Y'all are literally all over the thread going "oh but is it perfect? Thought so, tankies".
Also I swear the amount of small business owners I know in Singapore who agree they live there for a better life is wild if you know anything about the authoritarian lean of Singapore.
Maybe because what business owners consider "less authoritarian" is being better able to exploit your workers? I don't know how many different ways one can explain this to you
I think you've misread my comment.
"Xi doesn't get the solidarity like Luigi, because his government has a track record of punishing citizens when they show dissent" was the point of my original comment.
I believe this context is important if we're to discuss the likability of a country's leader based on their actions. Additionally, "acting within the defines of state ideology" would permit a national head to practically do anything since they are the ones defining the state ideology.
You do.
You go around saying anyone that disagrees with you, even on minor details, is a liberal and insisting that China is a fantastic Communist state. You are setting the bar on purity with no room for disagreement ~~without~~ with taking to insults and acting poorly.
The purity is that which you are insisting in others not even on the country. I have not even called you or anyone else in here a tankie once but you insist that I did so it okays you to "react" appropriately.
And how would a local business with a single employee be thinking they could better exploit themselves? Do you not see how you aren't even cooperating in the conversation? You barge in to shout a lot and see the discourse as productive even if it's just loud nonsense.
You don't even know that I have a 10 year work visa in China and have spent a generous amount of time over there, you have no knowledge of my detainment for giving out a VPN nor do you know about my detainment in Singapore for the same thing. There is nuance and more to the world than just one thing such as workers or economics on broad scale, but it's easier for you simplify for the sake of the fantasy you wish to have.
Ohh wow, look who has appeared. Mr No reply to the original comment. Wonder what he will add to the conversation.
Like usual, it's nothing of value.
~~With due respect, that's quite different than the claim you explained in the comment I replied to, so I hope you will edit it to clarify that.~~ edit: I seem to have misunderstood the original comment.
As to the point you stated in quotes in this comment (edit: which is what OP originally intended), I don't see how they're related. Criticizing China's crackdown on dissent must not mean you should deny their credit on executing CEOs.
America sucks and I like what the guy did.
Still in such topics I didnt feel like it was related to America as China was the topic.
Interesting how fucked up the situation is with CIA sponsoring it. In a world of Propaganda I am afraid to believe or not believe such facts. I dont even know if sources would help, as any article positive or negative could tell lies.
I will partly believe this with questions and curiousity. I know how America is full of propaganda and money laundring. But this doesnt mean that other sources are not similar.
Whatever, I like to have no opinions
Damn, yeah. I should start to create a chart of how truthful articles are and automatically remove them from search.
I can see how lost the articles are sometimes, following money.
I'm arguing against people saying that china isn't perfect ant isn't communist because it has billionaires, by pointing out the class character of the state and the political apparatus that regularly clamps down on the capitalists (unlike any capitalist state).
I'm also arguing against libs saying big gubmint bad bc it's too communist. China is a socialist country, I never claimed it's a perfect utopia, you just don't have any angle of attack with facts so you have to put up a fictional one you can throw your "nuanced" platitudes at.
You don't engage with the facts you don't like and only hold up the sources that prove your points. I pulled out facts about citizens self mutilating and you responded with an ad hominem claiming I was using a word that belonged to you rather than engage with the facts.
You blame others for what you are doing.
I have and others in here have been just pointing out other ways that China is not perfect but you ignore those and hold up the Harvard study you have as if it was a silver bullet to finally slay all the mean things people say about the country you apparently love, that won't love you back.
I never claimed it's a perfect utopia,I'm arguing against people saying that china isn't perfect
You are a hypocrite. We all are but you refuse to see it.
Saying that China isn't perfect and isn't communist
What part of this was too hard to understand? I know it's not perfect, it doesn't have to be. That doesn't make it not socialist.
It's legitimacy doesn't come from being perfect, it comes from being overwhelmingly popular with its people, which you ignore while pulling your melodramatics.
Most of us can't even buy a place to live without enslaving ourselves for half our life to bankers.
It's perplexing then, why people most likely in this situation claim that capitalism is the best system.
I am a westerner. No other comment. You've already made up your mind.
So are the policy makers of the so called "developed" nations who immediately scoff and label anything good done for society as "communist". Seems like the people who made up their minds are the ones actively screwing over the U.S and U.K (I am sure there are other countries where the brain rot is expanding to).
And of course the rest of the world have made up their mind. Who wouldn't after seeing for-profit healthcare and industrial prison complex, the war-mongering in the name of democracy of the capitalist class.
Anything good done for the common citizen and the planet s considered "socialist" and within a fraction of a second labelled as "evil"? Isn't that hypocrisy? Capitalism's treatment of "Just Stop Oil" activists is enough to convince a lot of people who are not brainwashed by propaganda.
Vindkraft i reformisternas landsbygdsprogram. Den femte delen av min serie om reformisternas landsbygdsprogram handlar om vindkraften, I programmet finns bara fem förslag om vindkraft men ett av förslagen är att förslagen i den statliga utredningen Värdet av vinden (SOU 2023:18) ska genomföras.
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Mysterious tablet with unknown language unearthed in Georgia
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A basalt tablet inscribed with an enigmatic language has been unearthed near Lake Bashplemi in Georgia's Dmanisi region.Dario Radley (Archaeology News Online Magazine)
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I read that as "Lake Blasphemy" then got to half of article and was like "wait a second what did i just read".
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Bird flu jumps from birds to human in Louisiana; patient hospitalized
Bird flu jumps from birds to human in Louisiana; patient hospitalized
This is the first human case of bird flu in Louisiana.Beth Mole (Ars Technica)
Good thing we learned from all our mistakes during covid.
Right?
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remember: as long as it's not human to human, we're somewhat okay.
If it does however...
so about that
Infectious disease experts have recently warned that H5N1 may only need to acquire a small number of mutations to become a greater threat to humans.
First Look at the Stealth Optimised AL-51F-1 Engine Powering Russia’s New Su-57M Fighter
The Russian Air Force has demonstrated high confidence in the Su-57’s stealth capabilities, and has deployed the fighters for high intensity combat operations to parts of the Ukrainian theatre with particularly high concentrations of Ukrainian air defences.The Su-57 program has prioritised reducing maintenance needs and operational costs to avoid the very low availability rates that have plagued America’s F-117, F-22 and F-35 stealth fighter fleets. One notable means by which this had been achieved is through reduced reliance on radar absorbent coatings, which was achieved by using innovative solutions such as radar absorbent fibreglass. In contrast to American stealth fighters which consistently cost far more to operate than their fourth generation predecessors, this approach allows the Su-57 to potentially achieve lower operational costs than its direct predecessor the Soviet Su-27, thus allowing Russia to move its fleet into the fifth generation without either significantly raising sustainment funding or contracting the number of fighters in service.
First Look at the Stealth Optimised AL-51F-1 Engine Powering Russia’s New Su-57M Fighter
The first images of the new flat nozzle AL-51F-1 engine developed for an upcoming enhanced variant of Russia’s Su-57 fifth generation fighter have been released, withMilitary Watch Magazine
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The universalization of ‘liberal democracy’
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The following article, written by Danny Haiphong and Carlos Martinez, has been accepted for publication in the journal International Critical Thought, where it will appear in early 2022.Friends of Socialist China
The universalization of ‘liberal democracy’
The universalization of ‘liberal democracy’ - Friends of Socialist China
The following article, written by Danny Haiphong and Carlos Martinez, has been accepted for publication in the journal International Critical Thought, where it will appear in early 2022.Friends of Socialist China
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Corporate Fearmongering Over Fast Food Wage Hike Aged Like Cold French Fries
Corporate Fearmongering Over Fast Food Wage Hike Aged Like Cold French Fries
The narrow focus on whether a Big Mac costs 15 cents more, and if it does, shouldn’t you yell at the people behind the counter, is a distortion, and a tired one,FAIR
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Mom Charged With Terrorism for Health Insurance "Threat"
Mom Charged With Terrorism for Health Insurance "Threat"
How the FBI is protecting the insurance industryKen Klippenstein
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I’m sorry, but repeating the words associated with an actual murder, but not saying “I am going to kill you” is a bit of a stretch to claim terrorism.
Here is the definition of domestic terrorism from the FBI’s website: “Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.”
What about this incident is violent?
EDIT: Just to be clear, I am in no way defending these people. I just think the terrorism charge is overdoing it. Sure, a threat, but terrorism?
She made a direct threat, and it wasn’t buried in the article or anything.
The woman, Briana Boston, a resident of Lakeland, Florida, said in a phone call with Blue Cross Blue Shield “Delay, Deny Depose,” according to the affidavit, and told the company that “You people are next.”
That's not a direct threat, it's a probably factual statement, and will continue to be so unless things change.
It also almost surely doesn't reach the definition of a True Threat for any charges. This is 100% a rightfully pissed off person being charged as a threat against the rest of the populace trying to enact any change on the status quo.
Mali’s government issues arrest warrant for Canadian mining company CEO | MR Online
Mali’s government issues arrest warrant for Canadian mining company CEO | MR Online
On December 2, 2024, Mali’s popular anti-imperialist government issued an arrest warrant for Canadian mining company Barrick Gold’s CEO, Mark Bristow, a South African national who fought for the apartheid army in the 1970s.Owen Schalk (MR Online)
UNRWA Employees in Gaza Forced to Eat Animal Feed to Survive, Agency Head Says
UNRWA Employees in Gaza Forced to Eat Animal Feed to Survive, Agency Head Says
That staff for Gaza’s main humanitarian group can’t access real food is a show of the severity of Israel’s aid blockade.Sharon Zhang (Truthout)
Israel Destroyed North Gaza Hospital’s Water Tanks With Remote-Controlled Robots
Israel Destroyed North Gaza Hospital’s Water Tanks With Remote-Controlled Robots
“Tonight was one of the most difficult nights we have faced,” the facility’s head said amid Israel’s months-long siege.Sharon Zhang (Truthout)
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Study Finds 96% of Gaza Children Fear Imminent Death—And Half Want to Die | Common Dreams
Study Finds 96% of Gaza Children Fear Imminent Death—And Half Want to Die
"The world's failure to protect Gaza's children is a moral failing on a monumental scale," said one advocate.brett-wilkins (Common Dreams)
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The Gaza-based Community Training Center for Crisis Management, supported by War Child Alliance, surveyed more than 500 Palestinian children in Gaza last June and found that 96% of them fear imminent death, 92% are not accepting of reality, 79% suffer from nightmares, 77% avoid discussing traumatic events, 73% display signs of aggression, 49% wish to die because of the war, and many more "show signs of withdrawal and severe anxiety, alongside a pervasive sense of hopelessness."
Children aren't stupid. And any who survive will have a long road toward healing, both physical and mental.
And this is how "terrorists" (freedom fighters) are made.
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recursive_recursion they/them
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Just saw this and while I can't check at the moment the instances admins I've pinged might want to consider defederating from Clubsall
@snowe@programming.dev @Ategon@programming.dev @mp3@lemmy.ca @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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in reply to recursive_recursion they/them • • •Hi there, I am creator of clubsall.
There are a lot of adhoc discussions and rules. Some discussions such as this one does skip my notice too. So it has been very difficult to be fair and run a new instance.
It seems anyone trying to build a lemmy competitor is being killed. If that is the rule, lets state that and I will kill clubsall myself.
If not, can I request a discussion or at least a set of rules that we should comply to so I can save clubsall?
@snowe@programming.dev @Ategon@programming.dev @mp3@lemmy.ca @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Blaze (he/him)
in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •Oh yes, that's probably why piefed.social/ and kbin.melroy.org/ are never praised as alternatives, nor are they fully compatible with Lemmy both ways.
(For people unaware, they are)
vinay_clubsall
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in reply to Ada • • •In other words, I am promising to implement federation out before our instance matters.
m-p{3}
in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •From what I understand, Clubsall doesn't allow federation to go both ways and accept that users outside of its domain can participate freely in their communities.
Can't have it both ways of leeching the posts from other large instances while simultaneously making it an exclusive club where only local users can participate, it goes contrary to the social contract and spirit of the Fediverse.
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in reply to m-p{3} • • •vinay_clubsall
in reply to m-p{3} • • •We are not trying to have it both ways, just need time to get there. We started with moving to sublinks library. This seems to be the best path forward, but timelines got extended after we found out that federation out is also under development there as well.
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in reply to haverholm • • •I am the creator of Clubsall.
Please see my update above. Based on previous discussion, I was under the impression that until there is meaningful traffic, it is ok to give us time to implement federation. There were a set of rules proposed in another thread. However, seems like the rules were not finalized or not accepted or not distributed. If those rules are not acceptable, can we have a discussion first so we can agree what is fair and I have a chance to save clubsall?
haverholm
in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •Look, at a glance it looks to me like you're populating a monetised platform with content off the fediverse without attribution. That's strike one.
Then you seem to stall for time to implement federation while admitting your developer quit... and continuing the above content scraping. Strike two.
And from what I read in this thread it appears you're actively dodging defederation by using subdomains to keep scraping content. Strike three.
My concern in this is the integrity of the fediverse and its users. Yours, apparently, is "saving" a platform that leeches content off federated platforms to make a buck off those users. I don't see much chance of agreement on "what is fair".
@jwr1@kbin.earth, I stand by that request to defederate.
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in reply to haverholm • • •When the OP was initially made, I actually did end up adding clubsall to the defed. list, but I feel like I might have done that prematurely. I took a brief look at the Clubsall website, and I couldn't really tell that there was anything inherently evil about it. Sure, the usernames and community names don't display the server they come from, but I feel like that's more of a frontend/design decision (any Lemmy frontend or app could do the same), and if you hover over the names on desktop (or click on them), you can see the URL still has the instance of the users and communities. Maybe that's a good idea for a setting that could be added, where the user can toggle whether the username or community domain is displayed or not.
Yes, there are still many improvements to be made, such as a link back to the original user on their instance would be nice, federation support needs to be worked on, and probably much more. And I will admit, the fact that they don't currently have a developer doesn't bode well in fixing some of these issues, but I feel like if we are going to block them,
... show moreWhen the OP was initially made, I actually did end up adding clubsall to the defed. list, but I feel like I might have done that prematurely. I took a brief look at the Clubsall website, and I couldn't really tell that there was anything inherently evil about it. Sure, the usernames and community names don't display the server they come from, but I feel like that's more of a frontend/design decision (any Lemmy frontend or app could do the same), and if you hover over the names on desktop (or click on them), you can see the URL still has the instance of the users and communities. Maybe that's a good idea for a setting that could be added, where the user can toggle whether the username or community domain is displayed or not.
Yes, there are still many improvements to be made, such as a link back to the original user on their instance would be nice, federation support needs to be worked on, and probably much more. And I will admit, the fact that they don't currently have a developer doesn't bode well in fixing some of these issues, but I feel like if we are going to block them, we should come up with some definitive reason, and have it defined in our kbin.earth rules list. If we block clubsall for being closed source and having incomplete federation, then we would need to block threads.net as well (for the same reasons). At the moment, neither of those two technically break our rules; if we were to block them, we would need to make a decision as an instance to add another rule.
The clubsall creator already made a comment in the OP stating that the open sourcing and federation issues were being worked on. I know @vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world isn't the developer, but maybe he would have some sort of explanation for the additional subdomains that are being used for federation, which appear to be used to dodge defederation (I haven't personally experienced this though). I try not to assume the worse in a situation, so I'd like to give Clubsall the benefit of the doubt. However, if it is found that they have evil intentions (such as dodging defederation), then I will definitely reblock the domain.
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in reply to jwr1 • • •I appreciate the consideration you put into the matter.
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in reply to jwr1 • • •I can explain subdomains. As far as I know, my developer used some subdomains while developing (and trying to understand and make federation working), but eventually settled on api.clubsall.com (he wasnt able to get clubsall.com working).
So as of last few months, only domain being used should be api.clubsall.com. If that is not true, do bring that to my attention please.
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in reply to haverholm • • •1. This is not monetized platform, there is no way to pay me, no advertisements, no premium plans etc. I am guessing you are saying since it is not open source yet, it is monetized. That will change, we started working on changing architecture to use sublinks, but got stuck as sublinks itself is under development.
2. As soon as sublinks federation works, we will be able to adjust quickly. Without this I have only two choices - spend a lot of money or shut it down. I would like to avoid both if possible. Since there is no traffic, I am requesting the community to give us benefit of doubt.
3. The developer used various subdomains while trying to implement federation. As far as I know, the final subdomain was api.clubsall.com. My guess is that admins are blocking clubsall.com and not api.clubsall.com. If another subdomain is still active, please let me know.
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in reply to Chozo • • •I am the creator of Clubsall. Can we have a discussion first so we can agree what is fair and I have a chance to save clubsall?
originalucifer
Unknown parent • • •its nonreciprocal for monetary gain.
they seem to be in quite a hurry into ingest remote content while not really creating any method whatsoever to attribute that content to its source, or allow their users to interact.
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in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •i generally only block for spam or technical/legal reasons.
blocked for technical reason: scraper.
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in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Hello Blaze,
One request, whenever you post about clubsall, can you please tag me so I can also participate? Thank you.
As for this discussion, when we had a discussion last time on reddit, I thought we agreed that as long as there is not meaningful traffic, it should be ok. I guess you were not fully onboard with this.
My request with all admins is - can we agree on some rules. If we block all new sites on hunch or rules as we make up, it will kill anyone trying to do something new.
There was another thread (that I cannot find now) where some rules were proposed. (If someone can find, please reply to this).
There are 2 things being discussed
1. federating out
2. open sourcing clubsall
I can give an update on both of these. As I mentioned previously, someone was helping me in doing some audit, implementing federation and then we could also open source.
... show moreWe were going to use "sublinks", which would do a number of upgrades. So that seems the right choice moving forward. It will allow self hosting, federation, move to postgres, move to dock
Hello Blaze,
One request, whenever you post about clubsall, can you please tag me so I can also participate? Thank you.
As for this discussion, when we had a discussion last time on reddit, I thought we agreed that as long as there is not meaningful traffic, it should be ok. I guess you were not fully onboard with this.
My request with all admins is - can we agree on some rules. If we block all new sites on hunch or rules as we make up, it will kill anyone trying to do something new.
There was another thread (that I cannot find now) where some rules were proposed. (If someone can find, please reply to this).
There are 2 things being discussed
1. federating out
2. open sourcing clubsall
I can give an update on both of these. As I mentioned previously, someone was helping me in doing some audit, implementing federation and then we could also open source.
We were going to use "sublinks", which would do a number of upgrades. So that seems the right choice moving forward. It will allow self hosting, federation, move to postgres, move to docker etc.
However during implementation we found that sublinks itself does not implement federation out. So we were blocked by that. I checked with developer just few days ago and I was told that since all developers are volunteers and they got busy, federation was delayed. The work will pickup again in new year.
I am not sure when they will be able to finish federation. I can quickly move there once done. However that seems months away.
In the meantime, can we have a discussion about a set of rules for clarification and fairness?
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in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •Sure, I'll make sure to keep you tagged. I was not sure you were using your Lemmy account, so that's why I did not tag you in this post.
You are channeling the traffic from 44k monthly active users to your website without giving credit to the instances where the content is created.
I just checked, the homepage of Clubsall shows content from !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone, while lemmy.blahaj.zone have you defederated: lemmy.blahaj.zone/instances, as "clubsall.com" is in the blocked instances.
But if we look at the linked instances, there is now "api.clubsall.com" and "clubsall-api4.renchesterjramos.workers.dev"
... show moreSure, I'll make sure to keep you tagged. I was not sure you were using your Lemmy account, so that's why I did not tag you in this post.
You are channeling the traffic from 44k monthly active users to your website without giving credit to the instances where the content is created.
I just checked, the homepage of Clubsall shows content from !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone, while lemmy.blahaj.zone have you defederated: lemmy.blahaj.zone/instances, as "clubsall.com" is in the blocked instances.
But if we look at the linked instances, there is now "api.clubsall.com" and "clubsall-api4.renchesterjramos.workers.dev"
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone FYI
Everyone here is trying to make a new platform. Every Lemmy server, as well as Mbin or Piefed, federate content both ways, and allow to go to the original posts from the federated copies.
Every admin make their own rules. Feel free to convince them, a few of them are in this thread.
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... show moreThis is because federation is fairly complex and we are new to this and do not fully understand. I really do not know why we are getting content from lemmy.blahaj.zone when they have blocked us. The content is coming from federation, so how is it being pushed to clubsall after blocking?
This is because federation is fairly complex and we are new to this and do not fully understand. I really do not know why we are getting content from lemmy.blahaj.zone when they have blocked us. The content is coming from federation, so how is it being pushed to clubsall after blocking?
My request stays the same, give us some breathing room until some traffic threshold. Is that fair?
Ada
in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •I blocked your instance based on your domain. But because you are using other domains to pull the content, you're still receiving content from the domains you use that I haven't blocked.
What is your plan for what clubsall will look like? I have no interest in killing a new and interesting platform for building community in the lemmy space. But if you're just going to pull content from lemmy instances without giving anything back, that's not building community...
Tell me you've got plans for something other than a content scraper, and I'll happily work with you.
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in reply to Ada • • •Thank you for responding. Here are my plans
There is almost no traffic today, users are not missing out on any content. Since the timelines are not in my hands, my ask
... show moreThank you for responding. Here are my plans
There is almost no traffic today, users are not missing out on any content. Since the timelines are not in my hands, my ask is for admins to give me benefit of doubt and be patient until I wait for sublinks federation implementation (or if clubsall have traffic in which case, users will be missing out on content. In that case, I will have to think of something else)
Feel free to ask me anything else.
Blaze (he/him)
in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •Do you mean this? github.com/sublinks
If there is almost no traffic today, why do you complain about being defederated?
vinay_clubsall
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •I mean this library github.com/sublinks/sublinks-a…
We have a handful of users. Their comments are being federated. They are not making any posts (because without federation there are no replies). Defederation will mean users cannot even comment and will have to abandon ClubsAll. A site being abandoned at this early stage usually means death of site, which I would like to avoid if possible.
Blaze (he/him)
in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •Are you aware that most of the activity on Sublinks has stopped, with 1 change in November, and the other most recent ones from October? github.com/sublinks/sublinks-a…
As I mentioned in another comment, why did you not fork a project like codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi which is still being actively developed?
How many do you have at this moment? 10, 25, 50?
vinay_clubsall
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Yes I am aware, that is why our progress has stopped. I was told they will pickup again in new year.
I just did not know about pyfedi, I will look into it.
We have about 10 users in last month.
Blaze (he/him)
in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •I don't know where you got that information, but the whole project just seems stopped at the moment. Development resuming in January would be surprising.
Good to know, thanks. Honestly, for 10 users, you should probably just host a standard Piefed instance, and that would probably be more than enough for your users.
Ada
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in reply to Ada • • •vinay_clubsall
in reply to originalucifer • • •Hello there, I am the creator of clubsall.
We are not in a hurry. In fact as stated, my developer has left, that has halted our development.
Also, we are a very small site with < 10 comments a month and I believe 0 posts.
So federation will hardly help everyone.
Still we want to implement federation, please read my update above.
My request is to agree on common and fair rules so we can be seen as upstanding community participants.
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in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •sure. its pretty simple... dont put out a product that cannot participate fully. there are many unfinished platforms, but they dont scrape the fediverse content because, ya know, theyre unfinished.
as soon as you get full federation implemented (or even basic linkbacks to the original content), youre welcome to let everyone know so they stop blocking your scraping mechanism.
until then your unfinished product will likely be blocked.
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vinay_clubsall
in reply to originalucifer • • •Thanks for this.
My worry is that other admins have different set of rules. Someone said clubsall should be open sourced, someone said clubsall should be self hostable, another person said, it should attribute posts and have canonical links. Unfortunately the admins do not seem to have common agreed set of rules that are fair. So no matter what we do, it seems we will be blocked. Can we have a viable alternative?
There was a discussion about having a common set of rules which had proposal which is different than yours.
So I am requesting some breathing room exception based on traffic, so we can survive until we can develop more or there is a common set of rules agreed to. Would that be fair?
originalucifer
in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •i would say youre running before you can walk.
you have an unfinished product, and you say youre in no hurry.. then why do you insist on scraping the fediverse?
finish your product, or dont. if you cant, there are plenty of open source platforms you could implement today. but youre not. why not?
if you insist on building a new wheel, finish it already or stop asking why people dont want to interact with you.
vinay_clubsall
in reply to originalucifer • • •originalucifer
in reply to vinay_clubsall • • •im tellin ya. make a product that participates and attributes the content back to its source, or dont bother. those are your options.
as it is you are monetizing other sites content with no attribution.
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vinay_clubsall
in reply to originalucifer • • •1 Can you explain how do you see us monetizing?
2. For attribution, currently you can see which user made the post. Should I display the server name on the sidebar?
vinay_clubsall
Unknown parent • • •Yes this is easy to implement. While I do not fully agree because impersonation can still be done by using username Bytes0nBikes. I feel showing instance names adds complexity for the user and it does not fully address impersonation anyways.
But then again, even though I disagree, many people mentioned that lack of attribution bothers them. So I should take feedback and get this done. I hope this is what everyone meant and they will accept this as a solution.
This is rather easier to implement. I should be able to get this done rather quickly. I will try to do this before end of Dec.