Damn I miss the 80s action heroes.
Just felt good seeing those guys doing their one liners. Pure entertainment without any thoughts of political correctness. Just fun.
"Wicked: Part Two" gets new title — "Wicked: For Good"
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You will be changed. Wicked: For Good, only in theaters November 21, 2025.💚❤️
My custom Sofle RGB, my DD and my love
I designed the case and the custom NASA glyphs for POS caps, so it has a completely flat console-like feel. It's Stocked with ChosFox Arctic Fox clickies (box whites on crack). I rewrote the firmware (didn't like the stock one) and added VIAL support as well as some different color modes. Also handmade the interconnect.
I loved the formfactor of the Sofle RBG, so I basically polished it up. I have 3 sets of these and a few spare boards just in case.
My case design is published here, for free, for anyone who wants it :)
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China wants to dominate in AI — and some of its models are already beating their U.S. rivals
China wants to dominate in AI — and some of its models are already beating their U.S. rivals
Chinese AI models are already hugely popular and are keeping pace with — and even surpassing — some U.S. rivals, industry experts told CNBC.Arjun Kharpal (CNBC)
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"On Hugging Face, a repository of LLMs, Chinese LLMs are the most downloaded, according to Tiezhen Wang, a machine learning engineer at the company. Qwen, a family of AI models created by Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba, is the most popular on Hugging Face, he said."
Which LLM was this written by?
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What we are constantly bombarded with in the capitalist hype train bubble is fucked. Just watching so many corps tripping over themselves to force shit into things that really and truly don't need (or in shit like health insurance to auto-deny life saving care) is maddening. It is being used without concern over if it is even more than alpha stage. Just like how we see stuff like the games industry just launching games broken as hell as if they are completed and for full price. The stealing of work is very much in-line with capitalism, just as it always has been with regards to physical resources.
But it can have benefits beyond the above stated bubble cashing in and out. It could be very useful in socialist/communist nations. That is because under those systems, the ownership would be collective and benefits shared right back to everyone. But should be carefully applied and not for profits over lives. So really such advancements would make more sense in socialist/communist settings.
Also places like China actually do apply the death penalty to greedy leaders of companies. Which helps compared to the US and other capitalist nations that place those same greedy leaders on pedestals beyond true punishments.
death penalty to greedy leaders of companies
~~With the notable exception of people in power.~~ (Edit: They do get executed) Corruption is real bad there, there are plenty examples of people in gov positions being filthy rich and have kids who show off their erroneous spending on Douyin.
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Why not? It doesn't really matter who steals from who in the AI race, it's about who gets to the top first to dominate the market. So of course China would want that, as do every AI company around the world.
FYI, China although communist in name, actually functions mostly on capitalist economy, but party authority always comes first.
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FYI, China although communist in name, actually functions mostly on capitalist economy, but party authority always comes first.
In a capitalist economy the market comes first, the market dominates politics. In China it is the exact opposite, and that's why China can build entire cities in the time it takes a capitalist country to build a single bridge or highway. They don't wait for private investors to provide funding or wait for private contractors to bid for the project. They just decide they're building a city and then they do it.
In other words, politics are in command.
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What an impressive waste of resources. It's portrayed as THE most important race and yet what has been delivered so far?
Slightly better TTS or OCR, photography manipulation that is commercially unusable because sources can't be traced, summarization that can introduce hallucinations, ... sure all of that is interesting in terms of academic research, with potentially some use cases... but it's not as if it didn't exist before at nearly the same quality for a fraction of the resources.
It's a competitions where "winners" actually don't win much, quite a ridiculous situation to be in.
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Image gen did not exist in any way shape or form before. Now we're getting video gen like a few years later.
Let's not forget we started by playing the game of Go better. My prediction as a hobby Go programmer (the game, not language) in 2015 would be that better than human AIs would be there by 2020 and they got there by 2016.
Before the AlphaGo match with Lee Sedol people predicted the AI would just put up a decent fight since a previous version played questionably against a weaker player. It blew one of the best players ever out of the water, losing only one game of the series.
Future matches even against the world #1 with the better models showed it to be invincible against humans
You're making the same mistake. You're looking at the current capabilities and predicting a human speed of improvement. AI is improving faster.
Image gen did not exist in any way shape or form before.
Typical trope while promoting a "new" technology. A classic example is 1972's AARON en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARON which, despite not being based on LLM (so not CLIP) nor even ML is still creating novel images. So... image generation has been existing since at least the 70s, more than half a century ago. I'm not saying it's equivalent to the implementation since DALLE (it is not) but to somehow ignore the history of a research field is not doing it justice. I have also been modding old.reddit.com/r/computational… since 9 years, so that's before OpenAI was even founded, just to give some historical context. Also 2015 means 6 years before CLIP. Again, not to say this is the equivalent, solely that generative AI has a long history and thus setting back dates to grand moments like AlphaGo or DeepBlue (and on this topic I can recommend Rematch from Arte) ... are very much arbitrary and in no way help to predict what's yet to come, both in terms of what's achievable but even the pace.
Anyway, I don't know what you actually tried but here is a short list of the 58 (as of today) models I tried fabien.benetou.fr/Content/Self… and that's excluding the popular ones, e.g. ChatGPT, Mistal LeChat, DALLE, etc which I also tried.
I might be making "the same mistake" but, as I hope you can see, I do keep on trying what I believe is the state of the art of a pretty much weekly basis.
in any way shape or form
I'd normally accept the challenge if you didn't add that. You did though and it, namely a system (arguably intelligent) made an image, several images in fact. The fact that we dislike or like the aesthetics of it or that the way it was done (without prompt) is different than how it currently is remains irrelevant according to your own criteria, which is none. Anyway my point with AARON isn't about this piece of work specifically, rather that there is prior work, and this one is JUST an example. Consequently the starting point is wrong.
Anyway... even if you did question this, I argued for more, showing that I did try numerous (more than 50) models, including very current ones. It even makes me curious if you, who is arguing for the capabilities and their progress, if you tried more models than I did and if so where can I read about it and what you learned about such attempts.
So LLMs can trace their origin back to the 2017 paper "Attention is all you need", they with diffusion models have enabled prompt based image generation at an impressive quality.
However, looking at just image generation you have GANs as far back as 2014 with style GANs (ones that you could more easily influence) dating back to 2018. While diffusion models also date back to 2015, I don't see any mention of use in images until early 2020's.
Thats also ignoring that all of these technologies go back further to lstms and CNNs, which go back further into other NLP/CV technologies. So there has been a lot of progress here, but progress isn't also always linear.
Language models on their own do indeed have lots of limitations, however there is a lot of potential in coupling them with other types of expert systems.
Absolutely, I even have a dedicated section "Trying to insure combinatoriality/compositionality" in my notes on the topic fabien.benetou.fr/Content/Self…
Still, while keeping this in mind we also must remain mindful of what each system can actually do, not conflate with what we WANT it do yet it can not do yet, and might never will.
Sure we have to be realistic about capabilities of different systems. Thing is that we don't know what the actual limitations are yet. In the past few years we've seen huge progress in terms of making language models mode efficient, and more capable.
My expectation is that language models, and the whole GPT algorithm, will end up being a building block in more sophisticated systems. We're already seeing research shift from simply making models bigger to having models do reasoning about the output. I suspect that we'll start seeing people rediscovering a lot of symbolic logic research that was done back in the 80s.
The overall point here is that we don't know what the limits of this tech are, and the only way to find out is to continue researching it, and trying new things. So, it's clearly not a waste of resources to pursue this. What makes this the most important race isn't what it's delivered so far, but what it has potential to deliver.
If we can make AI systems that are capable of doing reasoning tasks in a sufficiently useful fashion that would be a game changer because it would allow automating tasks that fundamentally could not be automated before. It's also worth noting that reasoning isn't a binary thing where it's either correct or wrong. Humans are notorious for making logical errors, and most can't do formal logic to save their lives. Yet, most humans can reason about tasks they need to complete in their daily lives sufficiently well to function. We should be applying the same standard to AI systems. The system just needs to be able to function well enough to accomplish tasks within the domain it's being used in.
A bigger deal is that they are open source.
China does have a "delete America" program, and I saw an announcement, not repeated in west, that they banned Intel, AMD, Nvidia for certain Chinese customers about 2 weeks ago. Nvidia still has a big interconnect, CUDA, and driver stability advantage in GPUs, but China is catching up on price/performance, and national security makes this an area of high investment. A Chinese Nvidia solution is to just host AI training in Thailand. Hosted costs for AI in China are 1/7th the cost of cheapest US option (Llama).
Extreme US climate terrorist energy corruption is going to limit US datacenter and affordable electricity for all. Mexico has an opportunity for electricity exports and datacenter hosting with access to Chinese energy.
Incoming Administration promises to protect oil and gas oligarchs by limiting renewables/batteries/EVs, including potentially destroying big 3 automakers with Canadian/Mexico tariffs. Harming Tesla competitors with loses on their NA investments in batteries and EVs, that includes tariffs on JPN ROK batteries. Coercion of EU colonies is likely to force their dependence on extortionist US oil and LNG imports if they want to keep US in NATO, for the privilege of buying extortionist US weapons. NATO CIA stooge leader is telling EU that they need to give up pensions, social security, and healthcare, and institute drafts, to get to 3% of GDP military spending targets. EU blaming immigrants from US sponsored destroyed lands, instead of their own US subjugation, is certain to be the political climate for abandoning sustainability and prosperity.
Coercing US consumers on NG electricity expansions, with increased LNG exports, together with datacenter expansions, is attempt at boosting NG prices, even when $2/mmbtu is not competitive with solar for new electricity. Utility oligarchs are certain to feed better at the trough if they support NG extortion agenda instead of renewables.
The main point is that in addition to cheaper energy, outside of US extortionist energy pricing, foreign datacenters also allow for global customers.
Israel Is Closing Embassy in Ireland Over Country’s Opposition to Gaza Genocide
Israel Is Closing Embassy in Ireland Over Country’s Opposition to Gaza Genocide
Ireland said last week that it is backing South Africa’s case in the ICJ arguing Israel is committing genocide.Sharon Zhang (Truthout)
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What if we start killing board members instead of just CEOs, you know, the puppet masters along with the puppet.
While we are at it, also any billionaires to
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Working class means your primary wealth generation tool is selling your labor. The compensation plans vary widely, but I think most CEOs are earning most of their wealth through a salary vs returns on things they own.
You can hate it all you want, but that's what working class means.
I don't think value to society weighs into the equation, just the ratio of salary to ownership wealth gain.
There are bad people in the working class that are a net detriment to society, just as there are good people in the owning class that are a net benefit. Those good and bad deeds don't change how they accrue wealth and therefore don't change their class.
This working class isn't a morality judgement, it's a wealth ratio per individual.
What about a really dull guillotine?
One that takes ten or fifteen drops to do any real damage?
I mean, yeah, but it just doesn't have the same vibe to it. You can't make a grandiose speech about "condemning them to the depths." Plus it's just much more terrifying, watching the surface of the water rise above you, as you're pulled inexhorably down into the abyss...
Also, the water muffles the screaming!
I can't do it, this pressure!
Can't we just shoot the ceos and be done with it?
I guess this meme only applies to America?
In most European countries, you pay for your insurance by contributing a certain percentage of your wages to your insurance company and a retirement payout company. Of course, you don't have to bother with that, since your employer does this in most cases (if you're not a contractor). I think this is a better strategy than just paying from what you have.
In the Netherlands your pension fund is withheld from your wages (partially a mandatory government fund, partially a fund your employer might select).
My previous employer invested about 1% of my wages into the fund, which was quite shite. My current employer invests 10% and has a significantly better return.
Health insurance is a monthly cost you pay on your own (starting at around € 120 / mo). It's a € ~350 yearly deductible and coverage is mostly decided by the government. Any additional coverage is your own choosing and comes at a premium.
As you can only switch contracts on a yearly basis, comparing health plans is effectively a Christmas tradition for all Dutch citizens.
Yeah we shouldn't underestimate the appeal of power, it's less quantifiable, but in it's essence similar to net worth (at a certain wealth).
Yet if we wouldn't have this inequality because of capitalism, the political power might well be more focused on the good for the people (and less to the wealthy)
Well, you want to know a cold, hard, undeniable fact, grounded in the very fabric of reality?
Brian Robert Thompson will never kill again.
40,000 victims. But not one more.
You would have been saying the same if we were alive and talking about Guy Fawkes after he tried to blow up Parliament.
He stood the test of time, so why wouldn’t Luigi.
Being country agnostic for a moment, I don’t really see how other methods have been able to bring about change. You can try protesting and the police will beat you, you can try petitions but nothing changes, you can march and nothing changes.
Wasn’t it JFK that said something along the lines of you don’t allow a peaceful revolution then you make a violent one inevitable.
I’m not out here being violent, but I can’t say I’m sad about Brian Thompson, in fact I’m filled with glee that this might bring about some change for my American counterparts.
There is nothing wrong with that.
Not sure how you’re browsing Lemmy but many apps will let you filter out content you don’t want to see, perhaps that will make your experience more tailored. I personally use Voyager for iOS.
This! You have any idea how much people pay for boulders to landscape their yards? A small one about the size of a nightstand can cost 300+.
Can we just put them all in submarines and promise it will be different this time?
Netanyahu's court testimony canceled in corruption trial
The Tuesday session of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's corruption trial was canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," judges said on Monday.
Last week Netanyahu promised defiantly to knock down corruption allegations against him in his long-running trial, where he became the first sitting Israeli leader to take the stand as a criminal defendant.
The Times of Israel, citing Judge Rivka Friedman-Feldman, said that the cancellation came after Netanyahu's team had made "closed-door arguments" in favor of delaying the session, at which Netanyahu was expected to testify for the third time in the ongoing corruption trial.
Netanyahu's Court Testimony Canceled in Corruption Trial
Netanyahu's court testimony was canceled in his trial on corruption charges due to "extraordinary circumstances," judges said.Michael D. Carroll (Newsweek)
Tired: knocking down corruption allegations by testifying and proving your innocence
Wired: knocking down corruption allegations by cancelling the trial
"Hate crime" implies something else. What you're describing is the commutation of justice. Vigilantism could also describe it. Hate may be involved, but that's not the most significant detail of the act.
All that being said, what sort of trial did Netanyahu give to the 10s of thousands dead in Palestine? That, to me, sounds more like a hate crime.
So. You're all having a great time running Linux... Why on earth is it always so god dang buggy every time I try it?
Do you guys have higher tolerance to buggy bs? Are you all gaslighting people to get higher adoption? Does it just work? If so... How??
I've tried about every distro in multiple different laptops/desktops, amd gpus, basically every possible idea and there's always weird ass bugs and issues and a ton of involuntary learning involved.
edit. Any chances you guys could suggest me one setup that "just works" no ifs and no buts? Or does it not exist in the Linux world?
edit2. Since people are asking for specifics I'm going to pick one random distro I've tried recently and list the issues I've had:
- On Arch fresh install with archinstall, everything default pmuch:
Immediately greeted with this. thread discussing it here.
I could live with that though, kinda...
Gnome apps in Arch are taking multiple seconds to open/tab back into and freezing, no idea how to debug it.
Could also live with it...
The killer one is that the battery life just sucks badly. about 15W idling with tlp, for comparison Debian with tlp gives me sub 5Watts. But again, Debian comes with a whole different set of issues.
I've only listed the one I've tried most recently, but the experience is similar with all distros I've tried.
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What distros have you tried?
Like, literally all of them.
What bugs have you found?
All sorts of weird bugs in different distros. it would be much easier if you asked what bugs happened in a specific distros.
But what I wanted to know is more like: I'm not trying to solve every single little bug I've encountered so far. What I'm looking for is a less buggy experience, does it exist in the Linux world?
It's very strange that you've made a post about bugs but chose not to list any of the bugs.
Like, how can we make a recommendation if we don't know what types of issues you're running into? What type of hardware you have? What expectations you have?
It just kind of screams of disgruntled user syndrome. These are community lead projects so, yes, they'll have bugs. But if people never say what they are or what issues they had with what they used, the best the rest of us can do is just guess!
It’s very strange that you’ve made a post about bugs but chose not to list any of the bugs.
Sorry if I made it seem like the post was about bugs. It's about me asking what is the most seamless experience you can have on Linux?
I'm not particularly trying to post a laundy list of bugs that I'm trying to fix, because frankly I don't want to fight them tooth and nail.
I'm just trying to figure out if people put up with that and it's not a problem for them, or if there's a setup that you dont have to worry about that.
Buggy how? What specifically is an issue? Have you ever gotten to a stable and working point? If so, what changed?
I personally only use Linux in servers. It may take a while to configure initially, but then I don't touch it in any meaningful way for years.
Have you ever gotten to a stable and working point? If so, what changed?
I have, and what changed? Random new issues just pop up and we are back at square one.
Go use Windows or Mac and enjoy your "just works" setup and lack of involuntary learning.
My motto is “macOS/iOS on desktop/phone,” Linux on everything else. I’m a programmer by day but I don’t want to fight for all the features I take for granted in Apple’s walled garden.
Haters might hate, and I still love watching Linux development but I’m more into server/CLI stuff on Linux than I am trying to make Gnome/KDE/Wayland as seamless as macOS.
I've tried it, currently getting screen artifacts unless i follow these instructions which only bring more questions up for me. Because on mint I'm not using that kernel, it shouldn't be happening but yet here we are. Weird bugs.
Plus, on anything debian related flatpaks take about 5 seconds to open every time. And I have no clue how to debug that.
Tl;dr - Use Mint, as for other bug complaints pics or gtfo
Running the mainline distros I’ve never encountered an installation that didn’t “just work”. I’ve thrown mint on basically every device people in the family have any no one has come back to me for any software breaking bugs.
The only bug I can remember messing me personally up was a few years ago when a bad grub update stopped booting my arch machine, but that was more me than the os’s fault. Which is more than people who got bricks from CrowdStrike can say.
If you can narrow down anything beyond “bugs” and “basically all distros” you don’t want help. There’s tens of thousands of distros and an infinite number of possible bugs.
Tl;dr - Use Mint, as for other bug complaints pics or gtfo
I've recorded this video on Arch. But I was having the exact same issue on Mint. Also sadly on anything Debian related flatpaks are SLOW for me, like slow slow slow.
And this kind of comment is what I find so weird, it's such a diametrically opposite experience from what happens to me. On a fresh arch install currently: Those screen artifacts, gnome apps(terminal ,nautilus etc) just randomly freeze. Usually when tabbing back to them. And quite a few crashes all around.
What are your hardware specs, are you running xorg or wayland? The video is kind of hard to see what you're referencing beyond the screen tearing on desktop transition.
Can only speak from personal experience, sadly. Other than the self-inflicted kind (running Asahi on a MPB for example) I've had a more or less painless experience. Off the top I have about 9 devices running Linux (excluding Pis) and have used Linux almost exclusively for about 10 years.
I should note that bugs and the like aren't unheard of, for example I had a friend who's laptop refused to sleep properly - I just personally don't have any horror stories.
What are your hardware specs, are you running xorg or wayland? The video is kind of hard to see what you’re referencing beyond the screen tearing on desktop transition.
6900hs, 6800s / 680m on that laptop and wayland. I found a "solution" to that in the arch forums but one that wrecks battery life at the same time.
Is it an Asus laptop, when I search those specs a lot of those populate? Those have some known issues and there is at least one dedicated site for them
Assuming no make sure you are allowing for proprietary repos, mostly those are for nvidia stuff but it can't hurt to try.
Then, I'd try switching to xorg and see if all of those persist. While wayland is a really solid piece of software, it's still fairly young and has some compatibility issues that you might be inadvertently tangling up against.
Don't rule out you could have multiple unrelated issues that are seemingly from the same source.
I've tried all of those. They solve some issues but introduce some newer issues.
Currently I'm fighting Debian trying to fix an issue where all flatpaks take about 5 seconds to open. I can't even find a similar case on google.
Try what post #2 says? forums.debian.net/viewtopic.ph…
The guys in this thread also mention checking permissions and versions
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I don't typically use flatpaks so I am way outside my depth here.
Honestly, it just works or not works as much as other operating systems. I've just come to like its way of working or not working more than others. I get it. When something doesn't work the symptoms usually let me know where to look for a fix.
By now this comes down to experience and the ability to read and understand error messages.
When I watch people online in videos messing up with Linux it usually seems to be due to them not reading correctly and ignoring vital information, skipping stuff or trying to alter some process in a misguided way. See Linus Sebastian entering "yes, do as I say" without realising that the system is trying to keep him from making a fatal mistake.
For most people, using Linux is not a buggy experience. So no, people aren't gaslighting you. Normally, you grab a modern release like the latest Fedora or Ubuntu and you can get a live desktop up in seconds booting from a USB stick.
Esoteric hardware can be a problem if particular driver haven't been developed yet. That tends to hit laptops harder than desktops, but it's much less of an issue than it used to be.
People are asking for specifics because they don't share your experience and so can't fill in the blanks.
If you want an out of the box distro that just works and has that old-school flavour, maybe look into Mint.
If you want something a bit more modern, then pop_os! is something of a Linux darling
Ubuntu probably has the widest community support. Although it does seem to have some issues
I'm not clear on what your bugs are, but if it's like, you run a command in the terminal and a bunch of scary sounding messages come up, that's normal. That's just how it likes to be
If it's been a while since you've seen used it, then I'd say Linux is probably worth another shot. It's come a long way, and it only gets better with age
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Any chances you guys could suggest me one setup that “just works” no ifs and no buts? Or does it not exist in the Linux world?
You've given so little insight into your experience
My most recent hardware has been fine
- My framework 13 amd works perfectly with Fedora Kinoite.
- My Minisforum UM780XTX has been a great Steam console with Bazzite
- My desktop is a gigabyte x570 board with a ryzen 3700X and a 5700XT GPU, has been solid for years, running Fedora KDE and then Kinoite.
- My workstation at work is a HP 845 G11 and it works fine, also running Fedora Kinoite
In the past I've had thinkpads (an X1 carbon and a T485), also good choices
Over my 12 years of using Linux as my daily for work and home (and about 13 years of fiddling with it on and off before that), avoid realtek hardware, avoid nvidia gpus, avoid switchable graphics, avoid strange OEM feature devices. Check hardware for compatibility before you buy it. Stick to mainstream distros, not niche 1 man community distros. I've moved to immutable/atomic distros because they are harder to tinker with outside of user space, as historically tinkering is what got me into trouble, now I do that in a container away from my base OS.
Laptops are a crapshoot, so I'd recommend sticking with distros that are known to support your specific model.
Desktops should, in general, just work.
That said, I've never personally had a seamless experience. There's always something I need to struggle to configure. Usually it's because I'm very picky and I like things to work MY way. The alternative on Widows would not be that it works my way; it would be that there'd be no way to do that so I'd just have to deal with it. If you're willing to just roll with the defaults, then yeah, most basic things should just work.
The biggest gotcha is GPU drivers. Not all distros ship with recent kernel versions with modern drivers. You should be pretty safe with Fedora and derivatives.
config that just works:
- get a ThinkPad x230/t430/t530/w530 (~USD50)
- install linux mint
- set up the simplest wifi network possible (wpa2 2.4ghz)
- connect to the wifi network
linux is picky with hardware and networks so if you want the best experience you have to spend some money to buy hardware for it imo (although it really only costs as much as a store bought windows license)
it depends, I have 3 batteries of which 1 is new (fake aftermarket) and 2 are original lenovo (they came with the laptops, used).
The 1 new one lasts ~10h on idle, ~7h with moderate (web browsing) tasks, ~3h with youtube or games that max out the 35w tdp.
One of the originals lasts ~5h with moderate tasks, and the other lasts ~2h.
keep in mind though that I bought these 2 thinkpads really cheap used, and they are 11-12 years old
I am using the latest Debian on an Asus Vivobook laptop.
My only issue is a thing I bring upon myself and is cosmetic. I use an external monitor on the laptop and for text fields I sometimes get spurious lines between rows of text, not an underline, but between the actual rows.
It is a little strange and I could just go back to using the laptop screen only if it bugged me too much, so the higher tolerance argument fits this I guess. Otherwise it has been really great. I used to use only the laptop's monitor so I had no problems before with the setup I mentioned. I might just go back to use only the laptop's monitor because I can use the external screen elsewhere.
In fact I think I will, It would be nicer to have a color screen for my Apple IIc+ :^)
I also have a desktop machine running Debian 12 semi headless (the monitor is turned off 90% of the time), this machine is a file storage, backup target, and sometimes an SSH target.
Do you guys have higher tolerance to buggy bs? Are you all gaslighting people to get higher adoption? Does it just work? If so… How??I’ve tried about every distro in multiple different laptops/desktops, amd gpus, basically every possible idea and there’s always weird ass bugs and issues and a ton of involuntary learning involved.
Your question is a bit like asking 'why do you guys all have a perfect spouse while I only get to live with that stupid creature?'.
Obviously, you would be wrong in considering both your and our own relationships like that.
As far as Linux goes, nope, we're not more tolerant to BS or gaslighting anyone. That said, maybe you're the one gaslighting here (yourself, at least) if you're saying there is such a as a perfect OS?
My Linux machines (Debian/Xfce and Mint/Cinnamon, if that really matters) both have issues. Exactly like, what not-a-surprise, my Mac and my iOS devices have. They're different issues, but they're issues.
I don't know, say, I can't run Affinity Designer on Linux like I easily can run it on my Mac ('what a shitty OS that Linux is!'). But then I also cannot change all text size on the screen as easily on the Mac as I can do it on Linux ('what a shitty OS that macOS is!'). Or have a Windows laptop with as good a battery life as a M Mac (what a shitty... you get the idea).
The only serious question to ask should be: which issues are deal breakers for you, and which are not?
It's a relatively simple checklist to do. Then, it's a matter of asking a few questions around to confirm there is no solution available. Problem solved, you will know for sure if you can use Linux or if you cannot. No drama, no existential crisis. And, as a nice bonus, no need to question anyone else intelligence and/or honesty, not even your own.
edit. Any chances you guys could suggest me one setup that “just works” no ifs and no buts? Or does it not exist in the Linux world?
'Could you suggest a Mac that will just works? Or does it not exist in the Apple (or Windows) world?' You can't? And, no, you can't, don't believe the marketing. Because if you could Apple would certainly not need to spend the fortune it is spending on customer support and warranty repairs, and the repairman/right to repair advocate Louis Rossman would never have become the influencer he is. Macs and iPhone too have issues.
Well, neither can we help you find the perfect setup for Linux that is guarantee to work without issue ;)
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There are bugs, but they're less annoying for me than the deliberate enshittified features that exist in current versions of windows.
That being said, I don't run linux on a laptop, and so my experiences have probably been less buggy than yours
Honestly, YES. Almost every linux user I have come across has been like "Linux has been the best and most stable experience I have ever had" and then turn around and debug some obscure issue without batting an eye.
I do believe that most people are just so desensitized to "generic issues" that they don't even bat an eye anymore and straight up don't see them as issues.
I do believe linux is an extremely buggy experience regardless of what DE or distro you use. It just so happens that said bugs are often really easy to deal with if you have experience.
☝️But this is also true on Windows. There's no AIO plug&play OS ! That's what arcade and consoles are made for.
You want to customize your windows? Tweak some graphical knobs? Install some plugins? New driver? New hardware? Do some more advanced stuff with powershell?
This all implies some user interaction ! Debugging a Windows issue is not that uncommon but most people just format or restore from a backup image (because it's easier... Less time consuming...).
It's just that people got used to how consoles/Windows/MacOS work and are hand held like they are babies not capable of maintaining their own system.
Don't get me wrong, Linux IS harder to maintain than any other OS, but it also gives you back the opportunity to take control over your system/hardware/personal life !
I disagree that this is the same on windows, I think for the vast majority of users, windows is less buggy. At the very least, it's a lot more streamlined and when you do find an issue, the info you find is far more likely to be 1:1 on how to apply said info.
I would argue that most people don't want to tweak graphics or install plugins. Drivers are easy, you download a thing from a website, double click it, reboot and it's there. On linux you need to hope there is a dkms and hope the driver hasn't been removed from kernel. Windows is a far more streamlined and easier experience for the vast majority of issue. The problem with windows is it's increasingly fragile nature where some users simply can't get a working install. My mother does not like using linux, I constantly need to fix bugs for her, or install some weird app she needs for crocheting in wine.
I have had her try so many distros, Nobara, Ubuntu, Fedora, preinstalled arch, mint zorin etc. Not a single one of them after months of her using them have been remotely comparable in user experience then windows has for her. The only reason she doesn't use windows is because whenever we install the driver for her CNC cutter (which is absolutely required for her) it bricks her system.
I have supported companies, libraries, and individuals and this is a consistent experience regardless of linux distro (barring chromeOS, they do some good work there) across literally hundreds of users that eventually get funneled down to me.
It's not that linux is getting so much better that is causing people to swap, its that linux is getting so much worse.
This is why I have high hopes for cosmic/popOS, They do seem to be trying to focus on making sure issues like these do get solved. I am not ready to move my mom to it yet, but soon...
My experience has been quite the opposite: Windows is the one that's constant problems for me, with no obvious way to fix and if I were to follow the common advice on the Internet I'd be reinstalling it more than I use it.
Linux has been very reliable for me. Sometimes I look at my uptime and I'm like, maybe I should reboot soon.
They're always some initial problems just like Windows but usually once it's all fixed up it stays that way. My install is 13 years old and still going strong.
This, and no foced anything. I curse more abou the work machine than my Privat Manjaro, but i also have the distro hopping and breaking through.
Point is once the system runs, it runs.
My family runs a few flavors of Universal Blue, which are based on Fedora and hasn't broken for them, but I don't know the exact hardware.
I've been running NixOS (also immutable) on a Framework 16 since the laptop came out, I can't count a single hardware issue I encountered. However, NixOS does come with a steep learning curve, so it's hard to recommend, and it also has trouble running software that hasn't been already packaged for it.
OK, I'm gonna make this simple, since it seems like no one has tried to do that for you. There's only 3 points
- Do not expect to buy hardware and THEN use linux
- When choosing a linux distro, do not choose one that requires you to compile anything
- Your killer problem - battery life - is 100% a hardware support problem
Breaking it down...
- Do not expect to buy hardware and THEN use linux
Technically no operating system actually works this way. The problem is that every single hardware vendor works with Microsoft to ensure it works on Windows before they release it. You cannot just buy hardware and then later decide to use Linux. You must always check for linux compatibility, and often distro compatability, before buying your hardware.
The reason for this is that every single piece of hardware needs a driver and not every single piece of hardware has a driver in Linux, and not every driver properly works with the hardware it was built for.
So step 1 is always review your preferred distro for support for your target hardware and don't just wing it. There's a lot of shitty broken hardware that Linux devs haven't built workarounds for and only work in Windows because there's money to create driver workarounds.
This isn't that strange in the world of hardware, it's just something MS managed to prevent everyone from dealing with through it's monopoly power and Apple prevented everyone from dealing with it by only allowing OSX on it's hardware and controlling all the updates. In any other world, you don't just buy random components for your car, or buy electronics without worrying about EU vs US outlets or buy power supplies for electronics without researching voltage, amperage, and polarity. It's just a thing you have to do.
- When choosing a linux distro, do not choose one that requires you to compile anything
If you want a "just works" experience, then you do not want to be doing it. The forum link you posted is bonkers. There is no way someone with your level of experience should be bisecting anything. You fell into a hole, asked for a way out, and that forum gave you a shovel.
You want to stick with distros that are ready to go: Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, openSuse, Fedora. My personal opinion is every beginner should start with Mint, but everyone's got opinions.
- Your killer problem - battery life - is 100% a hardware support problem.
Whatever components you're running don't have whatever driver maturity is needed for power management. That could be a lot of things, and there's no fix unless you want to become a volunteer device driver developer, which is like asking if you want you to become a volunteer suspension bridge repairperson. It's not a real option for you. That means you're stuck waiting for someone else to write support for whatever hardware you have. Bringing me back to point #1, do not just attempt to put linux on any old hardware - you must research compatibility as part of your purchasing process.
I've been running linux for decades. In the beginning, it was a nightmare. I had to debug it every week, sometimes multiple times each week. Nearly every problem was something I caused trying to fix some other problem. Nearly every problem I was trying to fix was ultimately just a lack of out-of-the-box hardware support and hardware auto-configuration. Fast-forward to 2007, I bought my first thinkpad. I researched linux support and bought one that I knew worked with Debian. Worked first time, no tweaking. Fucking beautiful.
Except some features of the laptop didn't work. I needed to manually configure the pointer device.
But then, I bought my second thinkpad in 2010. Everything worked, and all the config was through graphical settings tools. Amazing.
Well guess what. I bought a new thinkpad a few years ago. I really wanted a Ryzen. But Lenovo only had the first gen available for sale, the second gen was sold out. I saw the support was perfect for the second gen, but not perfect for the first gen. I bought it anyway.
Wouldn't you know it. The motherboard has hardware bugs that the drivers just don't handle gracefully. There's a fight between Lenovo and the driver developers over it. It never gets fully resolved. However, the battery life problem gets resolved. Now I have 2 bugs:
1) sometimes I have to plug and unplug my external camera into the USB multiple times because the mobo can't negotiate the connection properly.
2) Sometimes the laptop fails to return from suspend and I have to reboot it.
Both of these suck, and there's nothing I can do to fix it. I could post on a forum and spend literal weeks trying literally everything everyone tells me, but I know what the problem is - hardware/driver support. I could volunteer to become a driver developer, or to work with a driver developer and give them absolutely everything in detail so they can maybe find the time to fix it, but the reality is, I bought unsupported hardware and this is the consequence. Had I bought the second gen ryzen thinkpad, I would not have these issues.
So don't try to force your way through this sorta shit and then assume everyone else is going through the same thing. Only buy hardware with components you know are going to work, only use distros that are simple to install and operate. And don't try to solve problems that are caused by failing to adhere to rules 1 and 2.
If you have bugs with mint - something newer like fedora will work
Arch is a bad choice for you.
There's occasionally something buggy, but the last time I ran Windows there were a lot of bugs too. They're just abstracted away, which Linux DEs don't do at all.
For me, it's about choosing the bugs that bug me less. If Windows is working better for you, just run Windows. Internet points are not worth much.
Okay, your post is a bit weird, so I'll just tell you about my setup:
I have a custom built PC for like 4 or 5 years and have Linux on there permanently for at least 2.
It has an AMD Ryzen 7 (AM4) CPU and a Nvidia 2060 Super.
I often tried new distros before the final switch. In the end I chose PopOS. For me it mostly just works.
All the core features are effectively bugless.
Games sometimes don't work or need a little tweak in steam, but that is like one game out of 20.
BUT:
I don't play AAA games. Like ever. I played Darktide for a month maybe and "Witcher 3" butthis is the closest I got to "real" AAA games in the last 5 years.
Indie Games nearly always "just work".
Few examples from the last months:
- Deep Rock Galactic
- Satisfactory
- Witch It
- Factorio Space Age
- Cogmind
- Dwarf Fortress
- Ultimate Chicken Horse
- Disco Elysium
- The Last Journey
- Core Keeper
- Celeste
- Stardew Valley
They all ran fine. The one Issue I had was that steam didn't show this DirectX-Popup and I thought the games didn't start. But after that it all just worked.
Also sometimes mods are hard. This is mostly for games I didn't buy on steam and that have weird community-built mod managers.
edit. Any chance you guys could suggest to me one setup that "just works" with no ifs and no buts? Or does it not exist in the Linux world?
Try Radeon GPU with Ryzen CPU and Bazzite KDE.
Gnome apps in Arch are taking multiple seconds to open/tab back into and freezing, no idea how to debug it.
Buy an SSD and try Bazzite KDE. It is the best distribution for beginners, IMO.
The only issue that exists for Linux is anti-cheats. They're as effective as Valve's anti-cheat, and we all know how effective VAC is.
Btw, you just need to get used to it. Based on what you wrote, you're just impatient.
Depends on what you're beginning.
The risk of forgetting some critical part of the install is mostly mitigated by arch-install. Arch is one of the easiest to "learn the ecosystem" since all packages are delivered to you as the author wrote them, so your first time through is a chore, but afterwards you can pretty easily replicate what you land on.
There's a lot more decisions made for you in other distros, ultimately I found it frustrating to work backwards trying to understand what those were the more polished they came.
It is however; the absolute last place I'd point someone who didn't want to or did not have the time, no matter how good the arch wiki is: it doesn't read itself.
I would say Linux Desktop users are generally always fiddling around.
It also depends on your specific hardware setup.
TL:DR Buy a pre-installed laptop of your liking, be it windows, Mac or even Linux-based.
I guess non tech users would go into a store and buy a laptop with Windows or MacOS pre-installed. You boot it up, go through some questions and boom you are ready to go.
It appears that you are expecting that same experience with a DIY installation of an unsupported OS on some random hardware. You cannot expect it to be so smooth.
So what I really suggest is that you get a laptop that is designed with Linux in mind from scratch.
Go to tuxedocomputers.com or system76.com and just buy a preconfigured Linux based Laptop. It will work out of the box. Problems solved. Easy peasy.
I’m running Linux mainly on a Microsoft Surface Go 1 and on a 2012 MacBook Pro occasionaly, so no friendly Linux machines.
On the Surface Go, except getting it to boot on the USB drive and some bluetooth problems everything works flawlessely.
On the MacBook, except a wifi card problem once a year, everything works fine.
I’m running Fedora Workstation and was using Ubuntu before (Fedora suits me better). Maybe you should try one of these distributions before trying a more difficult one.
I’m really encountering less bugs than on Windows at work.
First of all, Arch has very few use cases imo for the average person, Debian is extremely stable but most of its problems come from outdated packages, maybe try fedora or something similar? just a suggestion.
Also, buggy is the wrong word, i'm being pedantic, but the problems you're experiencing are very real, but most likely not from bugs.
I will say its interesting how a lot of tech people (myself included) tend to gaslight ourselves into believing stuff is easy, like the fediverse and linux, sure it makes sense to _you_ but it likely doesn't make sense to the average tiktok/bluesky user.
involuntary learning
I'm sorry but you can't call it 'involuntary' if you chose to install Arch. Arch comes with a reading list. Some Linux distributions are not made for people who don't want to know a ton about how they work. It's like if you want to drive a car without knowing how an engine works you shouldn't start with a kit car.
Use Linux Mint if you just want it to work.
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