[nukes are] the only way to properly secure sovereignty and territorial integrity

As North Korea had correctly identified early and worked towards diligently to protect their people.

Ah, so if he’s not doing the atrocities personally then it’s all ok? Gotcha :)

Still dense, gotcha (:

I hope you aren’t implying that Zelensky is a victim? For him this war is literally the best thing that could ever happen to him - he gets to rule the xountry for as long as he wish, reveives billions from the west, travels around thr world telling stories about how hr protects the democracy, etc. The victims are Ukrainians whom he (well, his rehime if you want to differentiate those things for some reason…) confines, kidnaps, tortures and murders.

Yes comrade, I too beg my neighbouring country to invade me, so I can stay in power. I thank them every time I'm attending a funeral of one of my soldiers.

So?

I just love how at the start of your meaningless ramble you were "concerned" for Ukrainian victims. But as soon as it gets pointed out who really has the power to stop this invasion you feign ignorance... Or you're really just that dense, that's a possibility too of course.

Yes comrade, I too beg my neighbouring country to invade me, so I can stay in power. I thank them every time I'm attending a funeral of one of my soldiers.

So why exactly doesn't it make sense? :)

I just love how at the start of your meaningless ramble you were "concerned" for Ukrainian victims. But as soon as it gets pointed out who really has the power to stop this invasion you feign ignorance... Or you're really just that dense, that's a possibility too of course.

Yeah, you are quite dense :)

I am concerned for Ukrainian victims, because me my friends and my family are potentially one of them.

But as soon as it gets pointed out who really has the power to stop this invasion you feign ignorance...

What ignorance? What Putin's/Russia's ability to end the war has to do with Zelensky's commiting atrocities on Ukrainians?

Why doesn't it make sense? For the same reason the normal person doesn't enjoy torturing pets.

You sure are a "potential victim" of Ukrainian drafting. That's why you spend your hours browsing the tankie instance of Lemmy. Yep. Yep.

If you really believe that Zelensky is committing "atrocities", then surely you are in favor of removing the one reason why Zelensky is committing those "atrocities". And also the reson he uses to "cheekily" stay in office by the by.

ohchr.org/sites/default/files/…

2.58.

The Commission previously found that Russian authorities had committed torture in
seven provinces of Ukraine and in the Russian Federation. 32 It has continued to gather
evidence of widespread and systematic use of torture by Russian authorities, in both Ukraine
and the Russian Federation.

Literally the first report I opened.

So Donbas was externally caused because... we should trust you that it was?

But Ukraine's 2014 coup wasn't externally caused because... it was different from all the other times the US deposed a government, since this time they put congresspeople like John McCain on the ground? Even US, anti-Russian sources recognize it as fact.

At this point you have to be deliberately dodging the evidence to not recognize what's going on.

Just admit Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine

Write it here.

Don't come back with more what about isms.

In what way is Russia weakened?

Last I checked, mainstream western sources report that Russian economy is booming. For example, the World Bank just reclassified Russia as a high income country blogs.worldbank.org/en/opendat…

The IMF forecasts that Russian economy is set to grow faster than all the western economies cnbc.com/2024/04/17/russia-for…

Russian oil and gas revenues soared 41% in first half of the year, as the data shows reuters.com/business/energy/ru…

Russian military is stronger today than at the start of the war spiegel.de/politik/deutschland…

The number of Russian troops is constantly increasing lemonde.fr/en/international/ar…

Russian MIC is outproducing the west. For example, Russia is able to produce 3x as many artillery shells as all of the west combined cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/ru…

People planning this stuff aren't idiots and they knew that there was no scenario that Ukraine could defeat Russia militarily no matter what weapons they provided. For example, back in 2016, Obama declared Ukraine to be not a core American interest and that he is reluctant to intervene in the country, because Russia will always be able to maintain escalatory dominance there.

I don't think their goal was to create a drawn out conflict however. The idea was to use Ukraine as fodder and then break Russia economically. Western planners fundamentally misunderstood the nature of Russian economy, and thought that it would collapse after they froze Russian foreign assets and put sanctions on. Not only did that not happen, but major countries like China and India snubbed the west and continued trade with Russia. That's where the whole hare brained scheme started to come apart, but the time this became obvious the west was already too invested to pull back.

If you can't even read the first two paragraphs of your own source

Mediazona, in collaboration with BBC News Russian service and a team of volunteers, maintains a named list of deceased Russian military personnel. This list is compiled from verified, publicly available sources, including social media posts by family members, local news reports, and official announcements from regional authorities. This list is not exhaustive, as not every military death becomes public knowledge.
To provide a more comprehensive picture of the war’s impact, we offer a second figure: an estimate of excess mortality among men, based on Probate registry data. This method was developed in collaboration with Meduza, to address the limitations of relying solely on publicly reported deaths.

“You don’t need to be protected from us” he said while invading.

Yeah, again, not a winning argument here.

True but that is because both sides are mostly doing the field battle thing like they did in the 1700 instead of trying to blow up all civilian infrastructure of the other party America style. Which Ukraine cannot do much because they would get nuked. And Russia so far has not done much either.

The entire war there is just very weird. There is no way for Ukraine to win besides getting nukes or somehow destroying all Russian oil without getting nuked. And both are basically impossible.

Continue, you only have several more claims that aren't cited. For example, the use of language "industrial scale" for torture.

Also please keep in mind that this isn't a high standard of evidence, as UN reports often are influenced- such as the significant citations of the German fascist Adrien Zenz in some of their reporting on China.

It’s only imperialism if it comes from the West

In the present stage of history, yes. No country other than Japan or the western ones have managed to rise to the status of being imperialist powers. The reason is simple. The powers which became imperialist first delayed the development of the rest of the world by literal centuries, preventing any other people from becoming imperialist. Japan happened to escape this fate by geographical luck and developed early, allowing it to join the ranks of the imperialists.

There is a reason why the most dominant/advanced capitalist countries today are still the same ones that were advanced over a 100 years ago.

otherwise it’s just sparkling being an asshole to your neighbors

This has literally nothing to do with imperialism, which is the system by which a handful of the most advanced capitalist countries have consumed unparalleled sums of human labor from the whole of humanity for centuries on end.

admit Russia is doing an imperialism

The very fact that you treat imperialism like an action and not a system shows that you don't have even the minimum possible of understanding of what it is.

If I call you a Putin asslicker it basically means that all the evidence you posted is null and I don't have to even read it or post evidence of my own, so, checkmate.

Add this one to the list, btw, Russia's surpassed Japan as the 4th world economy by PPP gross domestic product.

intellinews.com/russia-overtak…

On the other hand: Germany, one of the biggest sponsors of this war, is currently on its way directly to the shitter usnews.com/news/best-countries…

Jesus Fucking Gish Gallop Christ.

Nobody forced Russia to invade another sovereign nation. If anything it goes to show that being in NATO keeps you safe from Russia (just look at the baltic states). If Putin and/or Russia's goal was to stop NATO expansion this war already did the opposite.

Jesus Fucking Gish Gallop Christ.

All of those are Western sources, and most of them are well-known, MB/FC-blessed sources.

Next you’re going to tell me that NATO is a defensive alliance.
- The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
- CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
- Noam Chomsky, 2023:
- Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism
- Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It

Please enlighten me what the substantive difference between 'industrial scale' and 'systematic and widespread' is. Not enough conveyor belts and smokestacks?

Similarly, please point out to me what your exact issue is with the report I linked.

Also, citation needed that Zenz is a fascist. I found much criticism of him, but no credible allegation that he is a fascist.

Libs love Ukrainians until they meet one who doesn't agree with their narrative

So far very few libs even admitted that I might be a Ukrainian, CNN (or whatever else) told them that everybody not glorifying Zelensky's atrocities is either a Russian bot or Russian propagandist, no third options here.

Please enlighten me what the substantive difference between ‘industrial scale’ and ‘systematic and widespread’ is.

Literally the difference between the holocaust and a pogrom.

Similarly, please point out to me what your exact issue is with the report I linked.

A lack of institutional credibility and an unwillingness to read a 20 page report that references things that have already been debunked- for example, i took a vertical slice to dig into, looking in detail about their claims of abducted children that do not align with the reality of later western-biased reporting on the issue.

Also, citation needed that Zenz is a fascist. I found much criticism of him, but no credible allegation that he is a fascist.

He describes himself as a "Christian Nationalist" and "on a God given mission to destroy China" and his institute used to be a cia front (arguably still is, although it has now been obscured through another front organization) If he isn't a fascist, he is close enough to the picture that he still isn't credible.

No, those are on Putin.

The west does not support Putin (at least not nearly in the same capacity they support Zelensky) though, so at least there is that. And while I'm sorry for the Russians as well, I think you may understand that I'm more worried about Zelensky trying to exterminate me and people close to me than I'm about what Putin does to Russians.

Lol, you serious? From Turkey alone around 250.000 refugees already returned since Assad fell. They were hardly able to manage that stream of returning refugees at the border. Many, many more prepare to return. Most refugees fled from the Assad governement.

The Isis-thing was never more than a minor sub-conflict.

Let's this video of north Koreans 😂

We have multiple, as in more than a dozen, statements by Russian personell, that their squads are suffering up to 90% losses

[citation needed]

Bakhmut alone cost over 30.000 Russian lives.

Bakhmut was likely the costliest battle of the war for Russia, however as you look at the casualties it's clear they've been steadily going down en.zona.media/article/2022/05/…