The United States, the world’s largest plastic polluter, recycles a mere 5% of its household plastic waste.
How Much of the World’s Plastic Waste Actually Gets Recycled?
This chart breaks down plastic waste disposal, showing just how little recycling is happening at the global level.Nick Routley (Visual Capitalist)
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Dr. Michael Parenti 1986 Lecture "Yellow Parenti"
Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism
But that expropriation of the Third World—has been going on for 400 years—brings us to another revelation—namely, that the Third World is not poor. You don't go to poor countries to make money. There are very few poor countries in this world. Most countries are rich! The Philippines are rich! Brazil is rich! Mexico is rich! Chile is rich—only the people are poor. But there's billions to be made there, to be carved out, and to be taken—there's been billions for 400 years! The Capitalist European and North American powers have carved out and taken the timber, the flax, the hemp, the cocoa, the rum, the tin, the copper, the iron, the rubber, the bauxite, the slaves, and the cheap labour. They have taken out of these countries—these countries are not underdeveloped—they're overexploited!
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Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.m.youtube.com
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I keep asking myself, why are they poor? Are they really poor? Or are they overexploited?
This reminds me that I've wanted to ask you in particular, since you made that nice reading list, do you have a recommendation of documentaries or lectures that you could please recommend on any politically left subject that would be helpful in introducing people to radical politics or radicalizing them further?
I just know ones like Pilger's War on Democracy, Black Power Mixtape, and (I know, I know) Zizek's Pervert's Guide to Ideology.
I have some best friends who aren't really readers, unfortunately.
Honestly? Blowback. Seeing the unspeakable evils of empire really jolts you into radicalization real quick. Also, Parenti, of course.
I tend to prefer reading over listening, but those are a couple notable exceptions.
Same about reading v. listening for me so I'm always at a loss. "Uhh, just read Lenin!" Haha
Is Blowback (man, almost had a Freudian slip there) a podcast or a documentary? Sorry, I've heard it mentioned but never encountered it. And, yeah, I'll suggest Parenti too!
Thanks!
Haha yea, reading is just more convenient.
Blowback is a podcast documentary, it's a doc in podcast format. Really good series.
Trump's Mideast Envoy Forced Netanyahu to Accept a Gaza Plan He Repeatedly Rejected
Trump's Mideast envoy forced Netanyahu to accept a Gaza plan he repeatedly rejected
Israeli sources say that the involvement of the incoming U.S. administration, led by Trump's aggressive Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff, revived hostage talks with Hamas.Chaim Levinson (Haaretz)
Linux distro for 14* year old laptop?
Hello all,
So I have this old Samsung RV520 laptop. You can see the specs there. I've installed and reinstalled a few different linux distros on it for the past 12 years or so, the last one being Arch (btw) which is what I use as my daily driver on my main desktop as well (by the btw). But I really don't need this laptop anymore, so I was thinking I'd give it as a birthday present to my friend's son, who turns 2 this month. It would be used as a "media station" to basically just play kids' videos from Youtube.
The problem is that I basically need to install an extremely windows-like (or otherwise simple) distro on it, because while my linux-fu is somewhat high level, my friend uses windows daily so system maintenance must be simple. Ubuntu is for me the obvious choice, but I'm not sure if the laptop can even run it anymore :D of course the HDD in it is also 16 years old and I'm pretty sure I'll upgrade it to an SSD before set up. So, taking all this preamble into account, what would you recommend? Some Ubuntu-derivative, pure Debian, maybe even Arch with linux-lts? Give me your thoughts!
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Mint xfce runs perfectly for me with the integrated Intel graphics on a sff dell from 2011.
Xfce is also much more customizable in appearance than just about any other DE.
Sucks that they are the last of the popular DEs to still not support Wayland, though.
I logged back into an X11 session recently for some testing. It now feels like going back to the stone age.
For someone who doesn't want to deal with maintenance, I'd recommend Fedora Kinoite.
The desktop is similar to Windows, you install all programs through the app store, updates are installed when ready during the next reboot, when something goes wrong you can just reboot into the last working state, and the command line is almost entirely useless.
(but that distro looks sexy as fsck!)
Tiny Core Linux, Micro Core Linux, 12MB Linux GUI Desktop, Live, Frugal, Extendable
Welcome - Tiny Core Linuxtinycorelinux.net
Lubuntu has more done to it to make it run on older/slower/less RAM hardware than Xubuntu. Xubuntu is better for modern but low powered machines.
For stuff that's actually relatively old and low-power, I've had much more luck with Lubuntu.
If you want something that will scream on that hardware, AntiX (Debian based). AntiX runs much faster than Windows XP on my Pentium 3 rig from the late 90s.
Otherwise, I'd go with one of the flavors of Linux Mint, which should also run fine, especially if you go with Xfce or MATE.
If it can run Windows 7 fine, it can run Mint even better.
You have an opportunity. Give him a pre-installed Linux and a terminal, along with a page of commands that he can run to do neat things... including starting the GUI to watch his favourite (ideally pre-downloaded) videos, running some demos, etc.
Don't make it too easy, but not too hard (2 you said? Can type a few characters though..)... Add to it over the years, unlocking the power, and guiding him to discover more by himself.
Kids won't become tech savvy if we hand everything to them on a silver platter, with touch screens, controllers, and flashy games. It can be bland and boring, until they do something.
It might just be the most life changing gift they ever receive.
That would be wonderful! I got the opportunity to try Linux when I was like 5 (didn't know it was Linux) and even though I was already very interested in computers, I didn't know I was using Linux nor how capable it was.
It took time until I had my own laptop and could start learning new things, and only knowing about Linux from afar since I wasn't able to install it myself and didn't have any adults that could teach me, but you could be that person to this kid (if they're interested in the future ofc)!
Linux Mint will work wonderfully on it. It has 4 GB RAM and a cpu that scores 1220 CPU points on passmark benchmark. That's more than enough to run Mint with Cinnamon -- which is very Windows-like, and the recommended distro for windows users.
I'd suggest you install it for him, and you configure it as it should (go through the prefs). Also, disable a couple of startup things found in the utility in the prefs, e.g. the wizard and the reports, to save ram. To save even more ram, install chrome for your friend (I know, I know, Firefox is there, but Chrome uses less ram on youtube -- almost 2/3s). On a 4 gb laptop, for someone who specifically wants to use youtube, that matters. And along with it, ublock origin on the medium level, so it can block youtube ads.
I’m sorry to judge you, but I don’t think a 2 year old should be using a computer.
I think it’s important for kids to learn how to really use a computer (instead of just a smartphone), but it’s mostly important to show them they can have fun away from screens.
I used a computer without any hard limits since I was 2 and I turned out ~~homose🏳️🌈~~ just fine.
Actually on second thought I have crushing depression and feel terribly unsatisfied at my job as a software engineer, maybe you have a point.
2 years old need to learn interaction with other people.
That’s how they learn language.
So, spend time with them, not the screen. Screen time will come by itself.
In fact there’s data of development delays if kids are exposed to screen at early ages. That is because our eyes like movement, but screen picture doesn’t provide meaningful world context. Especially games.
Only personal interaction gives words in meaningful action context.
My wife is speech pathologist, so I am sharing what I wax told.
We have a friend, who didn’t listen to no screen time. Kid is delayed in development. It is serious staff and yet so simple to prevent.
Give your kids all the time you can in 1st several years.
Totally. Please keep kids away from screens as long as possible.
For this laptop I recommend mx linux fluxbox edition. You also have a 32 bit version.
Yes, I agree, and I do believe the kid's parents would also agree. And it's not like the kid is given free reign to roam the internet, looking for the most cancerous, brain rotting, worst AI-slob the internet can provide, no. It's more like a TV basically, with age appropriate shows running in the background, and in our own language no less. He basically seems to occasionally take like a breather of sorts, stopping for something to bite or a sip of his milk or whatever, before running along with his childish endeavors.
But yeah, absolutely. Too much screentime in early childhood can and will lead to developmental delays, and in order to raise the optimal human being one should optimize every aspect of the child's life, adjusting at optimal intervals all according to the child's personal development. But you know, life doesn't work like that. And yet, as I just stated to the comment you replied to, I am thankful for your concern; we're all trying to do our best for this kid. If my little gift of an old laptop can bring joy and happiness into that little dude's life, that is basically enough for me.
I really don't want to start arguing against this sentiment, because I agree with it. But the kid in question is not my son, and however much I personally don't agree with using a screen as much as my friends have with the kid, I also understand why it has come to this (that the kid's parents had decided to use a screen to calm him down, which it does) and how different peoples' life situations can be. Also it's not like he's completely swallowed by the bright lights and colours and noises the screen provides, at least as far as I can tell, as whenever I am or anyone else is around he likes to do other things as well (such as playing with his physical toys or engaging in other activies kids like to do, such as climbing furniture and doing somersaults and stuff) though I'm obviously not there all the time. Also he goes to daycare where the screentime is minimized I assume, and more emphasis is given to social education and stuff.
And this laptop wouldn't even be his first, this would be basically an upgrade over the old, beaten-up laptop his dad has had laying around.
So yes, thank you (all of you, other comments as well) for your concern for this child's wellbeing. We will continue doing what we can towards doing the best we can with the information we have at the given moment.
Activity Manager [Android app] - Helps to make shortcuts
cross-posted from: lemmy.sdf.org/post/27882871
cross-posted from: lemmy.sdf.org/post/27852459
It allows to launch exported activities from various apps and helps to create useful shortcuts2 examples where I find it to be quite useful:
1. Quick Record shortcut for Audio Recorder
::: spoiler It currently does not have a quick recording shortcut.
Audio Recorder Gitlab issue where a user requests the feature. Maybe attention from someone here would be helpful?
:::You can directy search for the app in Activity manager, open it and create a a shortcut for the Recording activity.
2. Shortcut to open Android/data folder in the native Files app
::: spoiler Context for the folder location I use here
For Android 11 & onwards, you can't access the Android/data folder(without root) from regular file manager apps like Material files(awesome opensource file manager).
The Telegram X app stores it's downloaded files in a folder there.
Material files calls the native Android Files(not GFiles, documentsui.files) app to open the Android/data folder.
Activity manager can be used to create a shortcut for that
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- Search for and open the Files app in Activity Manager and choose the Launch with parameters option for the FilesActivity
- Action, choose ACTION_VIEW
- Data =
content://com.android.externalstorage.documents/document/primary%3AAndroid%2Fdata%2Forg.thunderdog.challegram%2Ffiles%2Fdocumentsor any other directory you like- Mime type, choose vnd.android.document/directory
You can then launch the activity with the parameter.
This will be recorded in History(the clock sign). You can long-press the entry and create a Shortcut.Do you have any other cases or ideas where this would be usedul? Please do share them here.
On a tangent, Material files allows making shortcuts to files and folders. Markor, text editor app, allows the same too.
Activity Manager | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
Advanced activities and shortcuts launcherf-droid.org
Ibis version 0.2.1 released with table of contents, user displayname/bio and more
Ibis is a federated encyclopedia which uses the ActivityPub protocol, just like Mastodon or Lemmy. Users can read and edit articles seamlessly across different instances. Federation ensures that articles get mirrored across many servers, and can be read even if the original instance goes down. The software is written in Rust and uses the cutting-edge Leptos framework based on Webassembly. Ibis is fully open source under the AGPL license, to make future enshittification impossible.
Checkout !ibis@lemmy.ml for more updates and discussions.
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Ibis version 0.2.1 released with table of contents, user displayname/bio and more
Ibis is a federated encyclopedia which uses the ActivityPub protocol, just like Mastodon or Lemmy. Users can read and edit articles seamlessly across different instances. Federation ensures that articles get mirrored across many servers, and can be read even if the original instance goes down. The software is written in Rust and uses the cutting-edge Leptos framework based on Webassembly. Ibis is fully open source under the AGPL license, to make future enshittification impossible.
Checkout !ibis@lemmy.ml for more updates and discussions.
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Backdooring Your Backdoors - Another $20 Domain, More Governments
Backdooring Your Backdoors - Another $20 Domain, More Governments
After the excitement of our .MOBI research, we were left twiddling our thumbs. As you may recall, in 2024, we demonstrated the impact of an unregistered domain when we subverted the TLS/SSL CA process for verifying domain ownership to give ourselves …Benjamin Harris (watchTowr Labs)
Coloring matched portions with GNU grep, sed and awk
Coloring matched portions with GNU grep, sed and awk
Examples for highlighting text of interest with various Linux CLI tools.learnbyexample.github.io
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TikTok Denies Report China Is Looking to Sell App to Elon Musk
TikTok Denies Report China Is Looking to Sell App to Elon Musk
TikTok denied a report that China is exploring a sale of the app to Elon Musk to keep TikTok operational in America amid a looming U.S. ban.Todd Spangler (Variety)
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Absolute Linux has reached the end – where next?
Absolute Linux has reached the end – where to next?
Linux distros that don't exist, but we wish didLiam Proven (The Register)
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PSA: Ciclofficine Popolari, per (imparare a) riparare la tua bici, e trovare l'attrezzatura giusta, gratuitamente (Milano e hinterland)
Fare manutenzione alla bici è nella maggior parte dei casi facile e poco costoso. Un modo per imparare a farlo è andare in una ciclofficina popolare, dove potete trovare gente esperta (volontari!), attrezzatura dedicata in abbondanza e parti di ricambio (recuperate).
L'idea è che ognuno si ripara la propria bici, anche con l'aiuto di un volontario, e poi si può lasciare una donazione libera, per aiutare la ciclofficina a restare aperta.
Nell'articolo trovate una mappa delle ciclofficine popolari di Milano e hinterland.
Sapevate della loro esistenza? Le usate già?
Ciclofficine Popolari di Milano e Hinterland | FIAB Milano Ciclobby
Ciclofficine Popolari di Milano e Hinterland Bici in cittàStefano Lodi (Fiab Milano Ciclobby)
Scira
Scira (Formerly MiniPerplx) is an minimalistic AI-powered search engine that combines multiple data sources to provide comprehensive answers. The name ‘Scira’ is derived from the Latin word ‘scire’, meaning ‘to know’ - reflecting our mission to make knowledge accessible and intuitive.
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Andi - AI Search for the Next Generation
Andi is AI search for the next generation. Instead of just links, Andi gives you answers - like chatting with a smart friend.andisearch.com
and also collects analytics by default.
regardless of what a privacy policy says.. it's too tempting for AI companies not to use user input in non-direct ways. i wouldn't trust any AI company and probably not even the host.
In any case, I use Scira only occasionally in the Web Panel, I almost exclusively use Andisearch with the best PP of all AI search engines, which also has WA among its sources, but apart from that, it always uses a random proxy with sandboxed results for searches, apart one of the most accurate.
Andi - AI Search for the Next Generation
Andi is AI search for the next generation. Instead of just links, Andi gives you answers - like chatting with a smart friend.andisearch.com
Mbin release v1.7.4 - Mbin Blog Updates - Mbin
Mbin release v1.7.4 - Mbin Blog Updates - Mbin
Mbin released a new version: [Mbin v1.7.4](https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/releases/tag/v1.7.4)....kbin.melroy.org
For the latest release: gehirneimer.de/m/mbinReleases/…
Still better than Twitter, but let's be honest
Blog post by Christine Lemmer-Webber, co-editor of ActivityPub: dustycloud.org/blog/how-decent…
The likely answer to this is that there will always have to be a large corporation at the heart of Bluesky/ATProto, and the network will have to rely on that corporation to do the work of abuse mitigation, particularly in terms of illegal content and spam. This may be a good enough solution for Bluesky’s purposes, but on the economics alone it’s going to be a centralized system that relies on trusting centralized authorities.
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Dude, the reason twitter is a shitty place to be is because of how it works. If you just move to another platform that does exactly the same, it will devolve into the same shithole twitter ~~was~~ is.
Quote-tweets (or whatever they are called) were resisted for so long in mastodon because it leads to toxic "omg, look at this person, let's make fun of them" posts. It's entirely too easy.
Add to it a tiny character limit and the majority of thing people can post is flickers of thoughts and incomplete works. Forcing people to reduce their expression directly leads to information being lost and for confusion or misunderstandings to be more common.
It is insane to repeat the same thing and expect a different outcome. Bluesky might be nice right now, but when twitter falls, the same people will just move to the Bluesky and nothing will have changed.
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Quote-tweets (or whatever they are called) were resisted for so long in mastodon because it leads to toxic “omg, look at this person, let’s make fun of them” posts. It’s entirely too easy.
Bluesky allows you to block quote-tweets of your posts. That's already a good mitigating measure for this kind of harassment.
Another thing that Bluesky does well is blocklists. We should probably consider something similar here on Lemmy/Mbin, that would help to crowdsource moderation and reduce the workload on mods/admins.
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I mean... ok.
People assume that you need to "fix" social media.
Social media is bad by definition. Yes, including Fedi and Masto.
You're making it momentarily less crappy in a small region so that's where you are for a bit until it gets messy again and you have to move on.
Twitter is tobacco, Bluesky is weed, Fedi is vaping. The free information utopia of the 90s wasn't hijacked by corporations, it was wrong in the first place.
That's like saying food is bad. Most of society might be eating trash fast food with zero nutritional value, but that doesn't mean a healthy diet isn't possible.
I would posit that the fact I can converse with anyone anywhere at any time, makes the world a more connected and potentially peaceful place.
In fact I'd go so far as to argue, that thanks to the internet and social media, we are closer to global consensus as a species than ever before, in history.
Yeah, mostly because for a lot of human existence, we straight up didn't know what was happening even a couple hundred miles away.
But now we do. THAT IS GOOD. And that applies to any thought, event, or experience, be it a natural disaster or the latest chapter of a furry fanfic.
It used to be that people only formed communities where geographic proximity allowed for it. Social media has the potential to remove that limitation.
Does that come with downsides? Yes, but only if we let it. And I wouldn't even say that the immediately obvius downsides are the most pressing ones, not right now.
The most pressing issue with mainstream social media, is the fact it needs to make money, without its actual users being the customers. Instead of connecting people that wouldn't otherwise have crossed paths, or maintaining connections that would have otherwise broken, commercial social media maximizes engagement, which coincides with maximizing critical apathy, radicalization, and moral outrage.
Algorithms impose artificial forces that act on human social behaviour. A really big one is that people are a lot less likely to form communities online with people they don't already agree with about most things.
That has never been true in reality. People absolutely do come together and overcome differences. Reality often requires it. People who live or work together used to HAVE to figure it out, or go mad. Social media could be imposing that requirement globally.
Instead, because the effort required is a turn-off, commercial social media platforms are designed to not just let people avoid it, but to encourage them to do so.
We may be closer to global consensus than we have ever been before, but some of the systems we have built to supposedly facilitate communication, are actively taking us further away from it. But that's not inherent in how social media works. It's because of how it's been designed.
Engaging with society for real, takes effort, and a lot of it. Every piece of difference between how you personally view the world, and how everyone else does, tires you. You have to constantly do mental and emotional work, in order to comprehend the people you are engaging with. When actually doing that, no one can spend all day online. It tires you out, even as you enjoy the exchange of thought.
But since that doesn't make maximum money, who cares about connecting people across the world and facilitating mutual understanding!? Here's a post that confirms what you already think about that other political party, that other state, and that other country, and those other people! Here's two dozen more! Here's content you didn't even know about, and that is really a nothingburger, but which our algorithm has determined will flame up your feelings like a second coming of Hitler!!!
Bit of a wall of text, there and skimming the technooptimist take is dead on arrival with me there, so I'm not particularly interested in disecting it.
I'll say that comparing social media to food is maybe the most depressing thing I've seen all week, and there is quite a bit of competition.
You can also just compare it to communication in general. Maybe you can go your whole life never asking what other people think, but I can't, nor do I want to.
And I can not only find out what the person next to me is thinking, I can essentially sample people any place on earth on their thoughts and feelings. I think that is beautiful beyond words.
But I'm hardly an optimist. I am fully aware that we have utterly missed the train on climate change. Food production will crash. Millions will starve.
If you take the time to actually read what I'm saying, I'm not discounting the issues social media has, but I simply do not agree with your assessment that social media and its problems are one and the same.
Now, if you want to discuss whether we'll actually pull off solving them in time to not go extinct, that is a coinflip I wouldnt bet on.
But do you honestly believe that your comment, and mine, being possible, is a bad thing? Are the groups organizing relief efforts through social media after the LA fires, a bad thing?
I'm not sure how you define "social media" but to me it's an extremely wide term. To say it's all bad, is mad. You might say the good things can be done in other ways, but what are those other ways, that don't fit the definition of social media?
We are a species of sentient social individuals, currently transitioning from national scale thinking into planetary scale thinking.
If the internet and social media can't be molded into the tools we need to boot-strap pseudo-hivemind-thinking onto humanity, I don't know what can.
Say what you will, but for us to take care of this planet, the individuals most in need, and overall just make better decisions on a global scale, we need that, badly.
Yes, I believe it's a bad thing.
I also believe that patterns in communication emerge on large scales, and I believe most of those patterns are noxious, or at least that the noxious patterns disrupt most of the positive patterns, even without maximizing for engagement (but especially when maximizing for engagement). It is fundamentally different to engage communication personally than through broadcast media than through peer to peer social media. The behaviors each generates are not the same and the results of letting that communication run over time are also different.
We have historical examples of this. Changes brought about by mass media first, then social media. It's not philosophy, it's sociology. It can be measured.
Also, you keep trying to make this sound optimistic and making it creepy. "Kickstarting the hive mind" and "planetary scale thinking" aren't as bad as "that's like saying food is bad", but they're up there. I extremely don't want those. I have started blocking US media actively in my feeds to avoid those specifically. And hey, turns out it's pretty healthy. I feel a bit better.
The hypothesis is that shutting down all social media would be even better, but I haven't tested that one since 1994.
Do you consider book authoring to be social media, then? Should print be abolished? How is modern social media more than just a supercharged version of writing down your ideas, printing a shitload of copies, and handing them out in the street?
Also, you keep trying to make this sound optimistic and making it creepy.
I'm fully aware. I'm not exactly excited about it, rather it's something I think is necessary for human society to function at the scale it has grown to.
And we're not going to become an actual hive mind. But unless it becomes "normal" to make decisions in a way that doesn't screw someone over on the other side of the world, down from us as individuals, up to our representatives in government, the world will continue to be shitty. That's what I'm referring to when I say "hive-mind" or "global" thinking.
We used to be able to live our lives within the confines of a tiny plot of land, and nothing you did within that plot of land affected anything outside that plot of land.
That is no longer the case. The materials of our homes, clothes and devices are made of, and the labor to assemble them. Our food, and the immense logistics around producing it just in time for us to consume.
All these things and so many more, and how they are achieved, have global implications.
As a species, we don't get to go back to the simple life anymore. We have responsibilities now. Ones we will likely fail to live up to, sure, but responsibilities nonetheless. And I don't think we can even attempt to function as a species without global broadcast communication, or whatever you want to call it.
That actually doesn't mean individuals can't opt out. If we can figure out how to make every t-shirt cruelty free, then yeah, you don't need to think about which one you wear anymore. And even before then, I don't think there's anything wrong with some living life as passengers in society.
I have started blocking US media actively in my feeds to avoid those specifically.
That's fine. The social media I think would be best for us is one that nowhere near everyone needs to engage with. Not everyone needs to connect globally, the same way you don't need to know everyone at work, or every person in your city.
Everyone using it all the time is something commercial social media strives for. Because it needs to make money. And not just some, but ALL the money.
When it comes to communication, there IS such a thing as too much. If you only ever talk, then you never do. And if you refer back to my original comment, the kind of social media I want to see, takes very real effort to properly engage with. That kind of social media can't be something you use every day. Or even the kind every person wants to, or needs to, use.
We don't need to connect every person to every other person. But I think there does need to be systems that connect some people in every community, to a couple other people in every other community. And each connection doesn't even need to be the same few people.
The part that matters is that if done right, I think social media could teach us to stop playing the prisoners dilemma by endlessly defecting on a planetary scale.
That's something communication of all kinds achieves on a daily basis in millions of tiny instances. No-one has really built a system of communication around aiming for exactly that. In fact, most modern platforms very deliberately do the opposite.
Do I consider book authoring to be social media? No. That's mass media. Single origin, broadcast destination. At least once books started being printed industrially and sold as commodities. The definitions of these things are not new and are pretty well established.
And it had its share of fundamental changes compared to prior communication methods. People died. A LOT of people died.
Now, I used to think the people at the time saying print was bad and had to be controlled (and there were many) were the equivalent of modern social media naysayers and the Internet would bring a similar expansion of human consciousness past the growing pains.
I started being less sure about that maybe halfway through last decade and I was pretty convinced it wasn't true during the pandemic. Didn't even need the whole Musk/Trump stunt to get there. I don't necessarily think we can go back but I also don't think that the upsides are nearly as many as with print. Plus a bunch of the people that are gonna die this time are not dead yet, so I have a bit more empathy for them.
People died. A LOT of people died.
Yup. And they have, and will continue to, this time, too. Mankind has not found a way to integrate a new technology into the way it functions without finding the no-no buttons by actually pushing them. Except maybe with nuclear weapons, and I'm still not sure we pulled that one off.
Now, I used to think the people at the time saying print was bad and had to be controlled (and there were many) were the equivalent of modern social media naysayers and the Internet would bring a similar expansion of human consciousness past the growing pains.
They were right though. Lives absolutely would have been spared, in the short term, had the printing press remained uninvented. We only know for sure that it probably ended up being for the better, because we get to look at it with a couple hundred years of hindsight.
And even then we probably CAN find a bunch of ways it could have been done with much less blood spilled!
I don't necessarily think we can go back but I also don't think that the upsides are nearly as many as with print.
We literally can't know. And it's a pandora's box type problem, we are doing this, there is no undo. I think there's a bunch of positives that social media can realize. I have absolutely no clue whether they will be.
All I'm saying is, social media isn't its problems. Nuclear technology isn't just bombs and waste, it's also cleaner energy and life-saving warmth, and so many other things.
I don't take issue with you saying modern social media is doing bad things (even beyond what commercial social media does). I do take issue with the kind of claim that goes along the lines "insert technology" is wrong in the first place.
Yes. That is like saying food is bad. Can it be? Yes. Does it have to be? No. Is it optional? No. This stuff isn't going back in the box.
So then why attribute good/bad to the concept itself? Either you eat well, or you don't. Not eating, isn't one of the options. This has been true for every major paradigm shift in history. And not a single time has mankind pulled off not having a big bite of absolute trash while figuring out which is which.
I try to be one of the ones who figure out which parts are safe to eat. The more people are like that, the sooner we can stop chowing down on the poison. I hope.
No, we can know. Again, this stuff is measurable.
Books resulted in a mass expansion of literacy, tools for mass education where before culture had been distributed through apprenticeships at best. It eventually enabled news distribution at a scale that just wouldn't have been possible before, which in turn is a key element of liberal democratic revolutions.
Social media has been in place for almost half a century now and it's done none of that. None.
I'll give it this, it was easier to work from home during the pandemic than in the last pandemic. That was a thing. I won't even give it full credits, because honestly the biggest improvement there was point to point logistics making it so we all got back to having toilet paper pretty fast.
Every now and then something gets crowdsourced in a way that would have been difficult before, but it's not widespread and not the main use of the tech, if it involves social media at all. There is no revolutionary upheaval of the socioeconomic system anywhere, beyond taking the semi-oligarchic gatekeepers we had before and removing the few limitations on fact checking that used to go with them being able to decide the official version of reality.
If we find a revolutionary application of social media now (and again, it hasn't happened yet), it will be something else. We'd certainly label it differently. Many techbros think it's AI. I think they're probably wrong. But it's certainly not gonna be social media of any kind.
50 years is nothing. Its not even a generation. Tech might move faster than ever, but collective human culture, the REAL core of it? The truly basic stuff, like "anyone can learn to read", is as slow as ever.
Some things only change once every person who ever shared that thought, is gone. That takes several hundred years, at least, if it happens at all.
Did you not understand when I layed out how global communication can facilitate learned compassion on a global scale, allowing for world peace? As well as the kind of decision making that doesn't destroy the planet? That's my "revolutionary application".
How if, we can stop caring about whatever men like Putin and Trump care about, on a cultural level, then the way people like them navigate society can become utterly unacceptable on a socially fundamental level.
And before you say, "that's stupid, it'll never happen" that's probably what the nobility thought about peasants learning to read.
I think that every person on earth has the capacity to be raised into a compassionate being that would not sacrifice the well being of others to enrich themselves beyond their basic needs. Or at least enough of us can be, that the ones who can't, are too few to matter.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Or maybe, in a couple hundred years, it will be untinkable that children ever worked in sweatshops.
Fine.
I'll leave you with this. Modern media might go through a hundred times more content every passing year.
But I think the average speed at which people can change their minds, or the number of times the average person does it throughout their life, is exactly the same as it was ten thousand years ago.
There is a maximum speed at which collective humanity can figure certain things out, and while some things are happening faster than ever, others, are happening at a fixed speed and at a scale no-one alive today will live to see.
I want you to think about what that means when it comes to the way mankind learns to apply something like social media, or any other technology, towards doing good.
The change I hope social media can facilitate, isn't the kind that happens in 50 years. It's the kind that happens over several hundred. Maybe more.
As for the optimism you keep trying to attribute, please stop. I'm disagreeing with some of what you claim, not that things are shit and will continue to be shit. I fully agree there. People like to eat trash, and will continue to do so.
Telling you salads exist, isn't exactly optimistic when I'm fully expecting the diets of most people to consist of 100% trash for the foreseeable future.
But there IS an option besides not eating at all. Which, when it comes to communication, same as food, isn't optional. For you individually, sure, modern society, no.
To be clear, I'm not pessimistic overall. I'm by and large not a technophobe and I don't think we're worse off now than we were any arbitrary number of years in the past, all things considered.
But social media was a mistake. People waited to be enraged about the impact until they could attribute it to artificial intelligence, but the vast majority of the objections to generative AI are simple iterations on processes invented by social media, from the mass copyright breach to the dramtic increase in data centre power consumption and additional vectors of disinformation. In most of those areas AI has been barely a bump on the line started by "web 2.0".
But social media was a mistake.
You honestly think there is no way to have the good without the bad, and that if we survive it, we'll opt to leave it behind entirely, rather than figure out how to apply it to do good, the way we have done with every technology before it?
People waited to be enraged about the impact until they could attribute it to artificial intelligence.
I disagree. I was seeing the problems and thinking it needed to work differently from the day I started using it. The main reason I abandoned Facebook for Reddit over fifteen years ago was that Reddit was the most suitable platform to apply towards what I thought social media should actually be for.
Well, you are not people, then. But people did wait.
The warnings were there from the start, and experts in sociology and communication were warning from pretty much the full suite of effects since day one. Nobody listened, though. Mass media was fixated on the downsides of TV until two billion people were on Facebook using their pictures to train facial recognition and being roped into misinformation-driven frenzies.
And yes, I think the core mechanics of this stuff are inherent to massive, instant peer-to-peer communication. I don't know you and you don't know me, but we've had a long discussion about this because we disagree on it. The attention economy patterns are at play right here, with no algorithm, in a distributed network with no central owner. We have the same incentives and disincentives. It's not min/maxed, but it's not working fundamentally differently.
Something people around here like to forget is that a bunch of that "Facebook incited genocide" stuff didn't happen through algorithmically selected posts, it happened through Whatsapp and Facebook chatbooks that aren't driven by their centralized engagement engines. The toxic patterns are built into the tech when applied en masse.
The warnings were there from the start, and experts in sociology and communication were warning from pretty much the full suite of effects since day one. Nobody listened, though. Mass media was fixated on the downsides of TV until two billion people were on Facebook using their pictures to train facial recognition and being roped into misinformation-driven frenzies.
I'll quote my other comment here: Some things only change once every person who ever shared that thought, is gone. That takes several hundred years, at least, if it happens at all.
The stuff I think is at play here, is the part of human collective consciousness that is really, really, really slow to change.
Something people around here like to forget is that a bunch of that "Facebook incited genocide" stuff didn't happen through algorithmically selected posts, it happened through Whatsapp and Facebook chatbooks that aren't driven by their centralized engagement engines. The toxic patterns are built into the tech when applied en masse.
Not the tech. Us. This stuff happens, because that is how humans work. It's where the word "meme" comes from. How we conceive ideas, spread them, and then alter them as we spread them, optimizing the idea to spread as effectively as possible, to the point it may no longer have anything in common with the original thought.
And yes, I think the core mechanics of this stuff are inherent to massive, instant peer-to-peer communication.
This stuff happens using the very first form of communication we ever used as a species. Word of mouth. How in the world can it be inherent to mass media, except in the way it amplifies it?
Overcoming our own flaws and the biological biases of our brains is one of the challenges we face as a species, and another trial that cannot be opted out of.
I mean Ive been working on figuring out how to use this: github.com/itaru2622/bluesky-s…
Ive gotten pretty close, just a few small issues now I'm trying to figure out. I mean as long as its FOSS and self host able idgaf if its corporate. The CIA made SELinux and its one of the tools I use daily. FUTO makes GrayJay and its another tool that I use daily.
I hate corpos, don't get me wrong, but if theyre actually giving you Something for free (free as in freedom, not as in free beer) I dont see the problem.
GitHub - itaru2622/bluesky-selfhost-env: bluesky self-hosting tool for easy deploy in anywhere.
bluesky self-hosting tool for easy deploy in anywhere. - itaru2622/bluesky-selfhost-envGitHub
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You can self-host everything, but it doesn't scale well, and you will likely go bankrupt between 3 - 4 business days.
Of course, partial network relays/appviews are possible to host.
The CIA didn't make SELinux. Not sure where you got that from.
It was the NSA lol
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make the front-end appear like any other website
So like clubsall.com/, who fetches content from all of Lemmy without federating back?
- feddit.org/post/5628646
- clubsall.com/
As a reminder, ClubsAll is still showing all of Lemmy's content without federating back
A post from 2 months ago which explained the context: lemmy.world/post/20694710I just had a look, nothing has changed, the website is still using Lemmy's content to pretend to be active
Home - ClubsAll
ClubsAll is an interactive online platform that empowers users to connect with people, engage in a wide range of discussions, and share content on a variety of topics.ClubsAll
So actor portability?
- sh.itjust.works/comment/153968…
- hubzilla.org/page/info/discove…
- feddit.org/post/190822
- socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/…
What really needs contributors are the streams repository and probably also Forte. They're very powerful, they're highly advanced, they're secure and resilient, they're basically what the whole Fediverse should be like, and they can blow not only Mastodon out of the water, but also Pleroma, Misskey and all their forks. But they only have half a maintainer at best because their creator has officially retired.Allow me to elaborate:
These are the youngest offspring of a family of roughly Facebook-like Fediverse server applications created by Mike Macgirvin. They started in 2010 with Mistpark, later Friendika, now known as Friendica. The focus has never been on aping the UI/UX of something commercial and centralised, like Lemmy apes Reddit, but to create a replacement that's actually better. Toss out stuff that sucks, add features that could be useful like full-blown blogging capability, including blogging-level text formatting, and a built-in file space with its own file manager.
The next in the family was a 2012 Friendica fork originally named Red that introduced the concept of nomadic identity. As of now, and outside developer instances, nomadic identity is a feature exclusive to Mike's creations. Red became the Red Matrix, and in 2015, it was renamed and redesigned into Hubzilla, a "decentralised social CMS" and the Fediverse's biggest feature monster.
What followed was a whole bunch of forks, mostly development forks, only one of which was officially declared stable. This led to the creation of the streams repository in October, 2021. It's a fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork?) of Hubzilla, but the first fork already lost many of Hubzilla's extra features and a lot of Hubzilla's connectivity.
The streams repository contains a Fediverse server application that is officially and intentionally nameless and brandless ("streams" is the name of the repository, not the name of the application), that is not a product, that is not a project, and that is just as intentionally released into the public domain, save for 3rd-party contributions inherited from Hubzilla that are under various free licenses.
While (streams), as it is colloquially called, may not have Hubzilla's wealth of features, it has to be one of the two most advanced pieces of Fediverse software out there. With its permissions system that is even improved over Hubzilla's, hardly anything can match it in safety, security and privacy. On top comes resilience through nomadic identity. Also, (streams) is more adapted to a Fediverse that's driven by ActivityPub and dominated by Mastodon whereas Hubzilla seems stuck in the mid-2010s in some regards.
At this point, it should be mentioned that while Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) can communicate through ActivityPub, none of them is based on it. AFAIK, Friendica is still based on its own protocol, DFRN, which is used by nothing else. Hubzilla is based on an older version of the Nomad protocol known as Zot6. (streams) is based on the current version of Nomad and also understands Zot6 for the best possible connectivity with Hubzilla.
So one of the latest development goals for the streams repository was the introduction of nomadic identity via ActivityPub, a concept that first appeared in 2023. I'm not sure how far this has been developed. But Mike created a new (streams) fork named Forte in August this year which had all support for non-ActivityPub protocols removed, probably also to cut down the maze of ID for everything which blew up on (streams) when support for FEP-ef61 was pushed to the release branch in July. Also, Forte has a name, it has a brand, it has a license, it has fully functional nodeinfo, and it is a project. Otherwise, Forte is identical to (streams).
Currently, there is only one Forte instance with one user, and that's Mike's private channel which mostly only his friends know about. Forte can be considered very experimental at this point, at least until Mike declares it ready for prime-time. After all, Forte has to handle nomadic identity via ActivityPub which, so far, is only proven to work under developer lab conditions at best.
However, there isn't much going on in terms of development. After the hassle that was getting malfunctioning (streams) back on track this summer, Mike officially retired from Fediverse development at the turn from August to September. He hasn't quit entirely, but he only works on (streams) and Forte sparsely. At the same time, the (streams) community was and still is too small to have a willing and able developer amongst themselves, and Forte has no community.
According to Mike, Forte could (and should) be "the Fediverse of 2030". It only needs more people working on it.
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If it's disadvantageous to the money in control of it, it won't happen.
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Wafrn, the social network that respects you
Wafrn is the main wafrn instance, a tumblr inspired federated social network that can connect with the fediverse. Follow your friends from mastodon, misskey, akkoma, and, if its your thing, threads tooapp.wafrn.net
Re: Still better than Twitter, but let's be honest
There is no generic one available right now, though its easy to self host. iirc, there's ~1000 PDSes right now, which is pretty small compared to the fediverses 17,000.
Wafrn (app.wafrn.net), technically counts as they have bluesky integration.
Because there's little incentive.
Anyway, wafrn does count, in my opinion.
There's as little incentive to host a Lemmy instance.
I am having a look at wafrn, do you have an example of a Bluesky account visible from there? I only see local accounts.
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