Trump says Palestinians will have no right of return to Gaza under his plan
Summary
Donald Trump stated that Palestinians displaced by Israel’s military actions would not have a right to return to Gaza under his plan.
Instead, he proposed resettling them in Egypt and Jordan, despite both nations rejecting the idea.
Trump suggested creating permanent refugee communities funded by the U.S., calling Gaza a "real estate development for the future."
His proposal has drawn condemnation from Arab nations and legal experts, with the UN warning it could constitute ethnic cleansing and violate international law.
Israel’s far-right settlers welcomed the plan.
Trump says Palestinians will have no right of return to Gaza under his plan
People will have ‘no alternative’ but to leave territory after destruction left by Israel, US president said in Fox interviewAndrew Roth (The Guardian)
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Hamas delays captive release 'until further notice' accusing Israel of violating terms
Published date: 10 February 2025 16:44 GMT
Hamas delays captive release 'until further notice' accusing Israel of violating terms
Hamas said it would delay the release of the next tranche of Israeli captives "until further notice", accusing Israel of failing to comply with the terms of the ceasefire deal.Alex MacDonald (Middle East Eye)
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Hamas delays captive release 'until further notice' accusing Israel of violating terms
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/25854998
By Alex MacDonald
Published date: 10 February 2025 16:44 GMT
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At least 40 are dead after a bus plunged off a bridge in Guatemala
At least 40 are dead after a bus plunged off a bridge in Guatemala
At least 40 people are dead after their bus plunged off a bridge Monday on the outskirts of Guatemala’s capital. A firefighting spokesman says a multi-vehicle crash sent the bus off the bridge before dawn. Another 15 people were seriously injured.AP News
Fitgirl repacks some how escapes sandbox?[bottles on Linux]
So i was installing a repack on my linux system, using bottles because of its flatpak sandbox.
As the install was wrapping, it asked the standard question about redirecting the websites, I (probably thinking nothing will happen) didn't uncheck anything, and to my surprise, it opened the Firefox browser on my main system and launched the website: giving me quite the spook
doesn't this mean that anything i install on bottles can somehow still ping home even if I disable networking from Flatseal?
am I being paranoid or is this a serious security flaw?
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file if it was tampered with. I'm quite sure your installer just changed a random hosts file inside the wine bottle
Fediversum och användbarheten. Användbarhet kan vara ett problem i Fediversum. Men ibland är det bara ett upplevt problem på grund av att programmen inte ser ut eller fungerar exakt som Facebook eller X. I det fallet är det ofta så att programmen faktiskt fungerar väldigt bra. Det som användarna ser av ett program är användargränssnittet.
How and why I installed GSI on my phone
Looking for a collaborative bookmark manager
With a few other volunteers we are monitoring a list of websites for a local project. Every few days we manually go through all those links to check if new events were published on those websites. (We can not automate this task).
I installed readeck.org/en/ on my server, but it isn't suited for our use case.
I am looking for an opensource tool where everyone (without creating an account) can go to
- browse a list of url
- add new entries
- sort them in categories
- easily mark it as "visited on [curent date]"
I know i could just use a shared Ethercalc or any table tool but i would love a dedicated tool where the last clic by someone on a link is automatically monitored and update the last visit date. Also it would be great that when adding a new link, the tool would check if it isn't already in the database.
Our goal is to simplify this collaborative task and avoid the time spent checking websites others have already checked a few days ago.
I hope some of you have any ideas
EndeavourOS: Our new ISO release is here, meet Mercury
Our new ISO release is here, meet Mercury - EndeavourOS
It has been a while since we released our last ISO, Endeavour Neo, and even though this new ISO comes...Bryanpwo (EndeavourOS)
Nintendo details plans to meet demand for Switch 2
Nintendo details plans to meet demand for Switch 2
Nintendo has shared further details about its plans to meet customer demand for the Nintendo Switch 2.Sophie McEvoy (GamesIndustry.biz)
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Russia says U.S. relations are on brink of collapse, refuses to confirm Trump call claim
Summary
Russia warned that U.S.-Russia relations are near collapse, with Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov stating the Ukraine war will continue unless Kyiv abandons its NATO ambitions.
The Kremlin declined to confirm Trump's claim that he spoke with Putin, despite Trump's assertion that he expects more discussions to end the war.
Trump’s security adviser suggested economic pressure on Moscow to negotiate, while Ukraine's Zelenskyy insists on U.S. and European support before engaging with Putin.
Meanwhile, a Russian drone attack injured a civilian in Ukraine’s Sumy region.
Russia says U.S. relations are on brink of collapse, refuses to confirm Trump call claim
The Kremlin said Russia-U.S. relations were nearing collapse and would not confirm whether President Putin had spoken with President Trump, after Trump said so.Astha Rajvanshi (NBC News)
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two eyes, a brain, and a fucking pukse.
stop shilling for fascists.
edit: btw took a look at your history....very convincing btw.
Need help setting up PPPoE, DSL connection with a Modem and an OpenWRT router
DSL, Telekom: how to configure tagged VLAN in reForis?
I have tried to setup a connection from my MOX via my Draytek Vigor 130 (bridge-mode) to a Vodafone network via Telekom DSL lines.Turris forum
Astronomers Amazed by Perfect 'Einstein Ring' Gleaming in Space
"That ish is so damn cool". Says sumguyonline a citizen of the United States of America
Astronomers Amazed by Perfect 'Einstein Ring' Gleaming in Space : ScienceAlert
Around a galaxy just 590 million light-years away, astronomers have discovered a stunning example of one of the rarest phenomena in our skies: a perfect ring of light.Michelle Starr (ScienceAlert)
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Trump orders Treasury to stop minting 'wasteful' pennies
Trump orders Treasury to stop minting 'wasteful' pennies
Mr Trump's decision, shared on social media, is one of many financial cuts his administration has made in just three weeks.Sky News
Python 3.14 Lands A New Interpreter With 3~30% Faster Python Code
Python 3.14 Lands A New Interpreter With 3~30% Faster Python Code
Merged last week for Python 3.14 is a new tail-call intepreter that aims to offer significantly better performance with around 10% faster performance in PyPerformance or around a 40% speed-up in Python-heavy benchmarkswww.phoronix.com
AI Will Save Dating Apps. Or Maybe Finally Kill Them
AI Will Save Dating Apps. Or Maybe Finally Kill Them
A slew of tools—from Iris Dating to Grindr’s forthcoming “wingman”—promise that they can increase your odds of finding someone with AI. So far, the results are mixed.Reece Rogers (WIRED)
First of all, dating apps have always used "AI", these apps are algorithm-fueled.
Secondly, why would apps that aren't designed to help you find love change their minds just because neural networks got invented?
Kanye West leaves X after 'antisemitic rampage'
Kanye West leaves X after 'antisemitic rampage'
The US rapper, also known as Ye, has been criticised for posting offensive comments about Jewish people by Friends star David Schwimmer and others.Sky News
Networking Oddity
Hello Selfhosted!
So I have an interesting issue. I have a docker host, and that host i have a Caddy container. I have that setup to handle reverse proxying. I have it setup to be local only. I have a pihole and a wireguard server. And can connect to my network successfully.
The part that confuses me is that while on network everything works great. While on VPN I can connect to services by IP:Port. If I use mobile data with VPN, I can't use the site addresses. x.domain.xxx (for privacy sake I'm leaving my domain out of the post.) But when I connect to WiFi, any WiFi, and connect to VPN I can go to the address I have setup for reverse proxying.
I am unsure how to troubleshoot this. Any pointers would be appreciated.
Israeli police raid Jerusalem bookshops and arrest Palestinian owners
Israeli police raid Jerusalem bookshops and arrest Palestinian owners
Raid on Educational Bookstore branches described by rights groups as part of harassment campaign against Palestinian intellectualsEmma Graham-Harrison (The Guardian)
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Unknown parent • • •Right, because Harris wanted to kick all of the Palestinians out so she could build a resort.
At least she and Biden attempted to negotiate peace.
earphone843
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Unknown parent • • •AbidanYre
Unknown parent • • •And yet Trump is still worse on that "single issue" that was important enough to let him win over.
Yeah, I'd like the Democrats to be farther left on a lot of things too, but I understand the system we live in and I remember his first term.
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Keeponstalin
in reply to earphone843 • • •No, they really didn't. That was the whole problem
... show moreYear of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars
No, they really didn't. That was the whole problem
Year of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars
apnews.com/article/israel-pale…
Israel prepares for Gaza exodus as per Trump's plan
SAMY MAGDY (AP News)Microplasticbrain
Unknown parent • • •Doorbook
Unknown parent • • •The disingenuous is your statement saying they will be allowed back, how about move them back to their home that they cannot return to since 1948 aka "right of return" ? or moving them to housing options in west bank ? why Egypt? why Jordan?
why would Egypt send their military and build a wall across the border when Biden admin suggested that? Israel was planing that before October, On June 2023 their prime minister goes to UN and draw a pipeline on a map across Gaza. Making it clear they want to annex it. Do you think the US weren't aware of it? Do you think Egypt who warn Israel about October didn't pass the info to the US?
Do you really think people don't read history or know what is going on to believe outlandish statement that Biden will move them to Egypt, drop the equivalent of two nuclear bomb on the region, then build it up, then bring people back?
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in reply to earphone843 • • •Yes Biden, and by extension Kamala "nothing different" Harris, did want to kick out the Palestinians, they just tried to do it under the table
apnews.com/article/israel-pale…
"The diplomat said Egypt rejected similar proposals from the Biden administration and European countries early in the war, which was sparked by Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023 attack into southern Israel. The earlier proposals were broached privately, while Trump announced his plan at a White House press conference alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu."
Israel prepares for Gaza exodus as per Trump's plan
SAMY MAGDY (AP News)tym
in reply to MicroWave • • •Friendly reminder: The crescendo of the first six months of project 2025 is using civil unrest to deploy the US Military as a domestic police force. The accompanying suspension of habeus corpus is absolutely needed for them to turn up the heat even more.
They're laying the groundwork for defanging the judicial branch as we speak - it's their last obstacle.
From constitutioncenter.org/the-con… (emphasis mine):
"The Suspension Clause protects liberty by protecting the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus. It provides that the federal government may not suspend this privilege except in extraordinary circumstances: when a rebellion or invasion occurs and the public safety requires it. "
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in reply to MicroWave • • •Not surprising to say the least. Just have to wonder how bad will it get.
Edit: well that didn't take long. reuters.com/world/trump-gaza-c…
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Unknown parent • • •Count042
in reply to Microplasticbrain • • •You keep saying:
Like Trumps plan is different from Bidens.
But it isn't. Biden literally tried to get Egypt to accept a giant tent city refuge camp in the Sinai desert. You know, like Gaza originally was in the first place?
So, laughing at the people you incorrectly blame for Trumps election and pointing at this as a consequence is just stupid. This was literally Bidens plan as well.
Count042
Unknown parent • • •This was literally Bidens plan as well.
You can have fun laughing at people that didn't want to vote for someone directly responsible for killing their families (as if you'd be different at all), but don't do it because you think this is something worse that Trump is doing that Biden wouldn't.
Count042
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Unknown parent • • •Yerbouti
in reply to MicroWave • • •tym
in reply to MicroWave • • •The real lesson of trump: you can get away with anything after you've conditioned your victims enough.
I read recently that all conservatism is is "I'm a good person and anyone who says otherwise deserved whatever I did to them."
Pretty sure this is how it all started in the 1930s.
Zink
in reply to tym • • •Microplasticbrain
in reply to Count042 • • •I don't blame y'all for shit dawg this is all on the fucking DNC, and I ain't laughing at you im laughing as cope.
But to act like it would have been exactly the same under Biden is a fucking joke, you know trump is gunna dial the spite and cruelty to 11.
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in reply to MicroWave • • •Phoenixz
in reply to MicroWave • • •Lol no, om going to use the US funds to pay for millions of refugees that I artificially created so that I can have my very own Riviera for free
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Unknown parent • • •Teknikal
in reply to MicroWave • • •jj4211
in reply to Teknikal • • •Sadly every major power tends to be the baddies to some extent, it's how they get to be and stay major powers. We just get to grade on a curve. Nazi Germany really set the curve and the US got to be the pretty unambiguous good guys, at least up to the firebombing campaign in Japan, the nuclear bombs, and being complicit after the fact in Japanese atrocities by shielding them from consequences.
While we have an "ambient" level of baddie-ness most of the time, we at least have balanced it out by sometimes defending against unjust violence and providing humanitarian aid.
Now Trump seeks to turn that baddie scale up to the max while simultaneously cutting out all aid efforts.
narp
in reply to Teknikal • • •Not ironic it all.
The US condemns China for the treatment of the Uyghurs. US good, China bad.
China condemns the US for the treatment of the Palestinians. China good, US bad.
Both countries don't give a shit about either.
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in reply to Teknikal • • •I don't think China (the government) actually cares. Just like the US supporting Ukraine, the US (the government) does not actually care about Ukrainians.
Russia - Ukraine conflict
Israel - Palestine conflict
Its all just a chess game to become (or remain) the superpower
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Unknown parent • • •vga
in reply to MicroWave • • •Trump seems to practicing a classic example of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brinkman…
Not sure if purposefully or just accidentally.
Brinkmanship - Wikipedia
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in reply to AbidanYre • • •NSRXN
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in reply to MicroWave • • •Wonder where all the people that fall for the Russian propaganda on Kamala are?
Probably found another single issue to base their entire political identity around. I know a lot switched over to the Gulf of America outrage.
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in reply to MicroWave • • •Maggoty
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in reply to Maggoty • • •Maggoty
in reply to nautilus • • •Yeah. It's pretty ridiculous. The DNC decided it's voters were wrong and got the election result that usually gets in a country with elections every 2 years specifically to ensure politicians are responsive to voters.
But nope, it's the voter's fault.
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in reply to SilentStorms • • •Here is a source even:
nbcnews.com/news/investigation…
Russia is trying to exploit America's divisions over the war in Gaza
Dan De Luce (NBC News)Maggoty
Unknown parent • • •It's also worth remembering that half or more of any unit is too young to drink alcohol legally. Expecting teenagers to make a critical analysis of foreign policy, geopolitics, and international law is ... Not realistic.
The anti war movement will make far more gains educating young soldiers than they will spitting at them.
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in reply to MicroWave • • •LongLive
in reply to IndustryStandard • • •ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed
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in reply to John Richard • • •And your question is still fundamentally flawed.
We don't get to vote for a candidate for the US of A that has the Palestinian people at the front of their agenda.
The Palestinian people who are not US citizens do not get a vote at all. Those that are US citizens chose to throw away their vote so they're in the same camp as those who are not US citizens for the sake of the conversation/argument.
So, of the candidates that were presented, you have to choose the lesser of the two Evils (LEV) to have the greatest chance of accomplishing your goals, even if none of the options specifically further your goals. It's about limiting the fallout/damage to your goals as much as possible.
This is something the Palestinian people who were US citizens chose not to do.
It is now why they are facing a much more serious threat from the US than they were during Biden's administration. This is not to absolve the Biden/Harris administration, but to show th
... show moreAnd your question is still fundamentally flawed.
We don't get to vote for a candidate for the US of A that has the Palestinian people at the front of their agenda.
The Palestinian people who are not US citizens do not get a vote at all. Those that are US citizens chose to throw away their vote so they're in the same camp as those who are not US citizens for the sake of the conversation/argument.
So, of the candidates that were presented, you have to choose the lesser of the two Evils (LEV) to have the greatest chance of accomplishing your goals, even if none of the options specifically further your goals. It's about limiting the fallout/damage to your goals as much as possible.
This is something the Palestinian people who were US citizens chose not to do.
It is now why they are facing a much more serious threat from the US than they were during Biden's administration. This is not to absolve the Biden/Harris administration, but to show that the reason things are worse now, is because, in large part, the Palestinian people who were US citizens chose the worse of the two options by not exercising their right to vote.
At no point in the process was there an option that would have accomplished what the Palestinian people would have wanted. To let the greater evil win because of that is going to be a very, very painful lesson for everyone involved, and I feel for the Palestinian people that are now going to be guaranteed to lose their home, their rights, and their freedoms because the new US Administration has even less respect and care for their rights than Biden's.
So, back to your question.
The flaw is in assuming there was another option other than the LEV scenario playing out, and that the Palestinian people who were not US citizens had a vote here. They did not. They do not have enough power, militaristicly speaking, to have autonomy over their own region, and are unfortunately at the mercy of Israel and their close allies (e.g. the USA right now), to control their fate/future.
They had some influence, in the form of Palestinian Americans and allies who could have voted and chosen a less evil/less terrible path ahead, and they flubbed things in the name of making a point. A point that has had little to no impact, and in fact has galvanized a lot of Americans and the world against them because their poor decision during the US election is going to affect everyone in the world. There is nowhere they can run to, or will be safe from the reach of trump's US imperialism.
Your question is therefore flawed. It assumes the Palestinian people had any option other than Kamala to give them the best possible scenario forward. To claim otherwise is to be ignorant of the world, and the facts of the situation. Just because we all agree that having "no choice" sucks and isn't fair, doesn't mean refusing to vote and letting the worst option (by far) on the table win is anything more than disappointingly idiotic.
And that's where we're at now.
guiding principle for a moral dilemma
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in reply to finder • • •John Richard
in reply to jackeryjoo • • •Here you assume that there are no Palestinian Americans, very racist.
Here you claim that Palestinians that didn't vote for Kamala are US citizens, but you don't consider them to be US citizens... more racism.
Here you claim that Palestinians don't know what is best for them, which is more racism.
... show moreMore racism by you attempting to claim that there aren't Palestinian Americans.
Here you assume that there are no Palestinian Americans, very racist.
Here you claim that Palestinians that didn't vote for Kamala are US citizens, but you don't consider them to be US citizens... more racism.
Here you claim that Palestinians don't know what is best for them, which is more racism.
More racism by you attempting to claim that there aren't Palestinian Americans.
Weird how you could have voted for someone else that didn't support genocide & unconditional support of Israel, which would have given them more autonomy but you chose not to.
Weird how you claim to always know what is best for them. Just like the white man always knows what is best for African Americans. Very racist of you.
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in reply to John Richard • • •This is an illogical misinterpretation. Consider a Venn diagram of Palestinians and US Citizens. The intersection is obviously not the empty set. That initial sentence you quoted is describing the set of Palestinians minus said intersection. You even betray your misinterpretation by quoting "Palestinian people who were US citizens" between accusations of racism.
Much of the rest of your comment similarly falls apart from this illogical misinterpretation.
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Unknown parent • • •Saurok
Unknown parent • • •Microplasticbrain
in reply to Saurok • • •I just consider weapons being sent to Israel as standard operating procedure, just a continuation of the status quo, so I still think he just didn't do anything.
My point is Trump will be worse than Biden, you can cope all you want but it wont change the reality.
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in reply to JigglySackles • • •Count042
in reply to kiwifoxtrot • • •Biden didn't state anything. That was his thing. Not giving interviews. With his administration it wasn't what he said, it's what his administration did.
And yes, Anthony Blinken flew all over the middle east trying to get this proposal through. I'm sorry you like to post opinions on something you apparently have no knowledge of.
newlinesmag.com/reportage/midd…
As the Middle East Reels, a New Option Takes Shape: Expulsion - New Lines Magazine
Editorial Staff (New Lines Magazine)JigglySackles
in reply to Saurok • • •subignition
Unknown parent • • •No, that's not entirely on her. It sucks that she didn't step out of line from Biden's stance on Israel. But it also sucks that a lot of Democratic voters decided their personal feelings of moral sanctimony justified electing someone with a drastically worse stance on the issue.
I don't think there's been an election in living memory where people liked 100% of the candidate's policy. Your duty as a voter is to make the most suitable choice from among the viable candidates. People who claimed they couldn't vote for Kamala because she wouldn't oppose Israel's genocide, and who abstained from voting, directly contributed to worsening the situation with their choices, and they aided in deeply sabotaging (if not destroying) the country in the process.
"You can't support Harris without supporting genocide" was right-wing propagandist bullshit the entire time, and it's deeply saddening that so many people couldn't see the forest for the trees. Most of them are probably still feeling smug about it while ignoring the blood on their hands.
Microplasticbrain
in reply to Saurok • • •Good job you won the debate that I never cared about to begin with, my point was always that trump would be worse, sure biden did worse than nothing, you win that narrowly framed argument lmao.
Take your gold ribbon for a free smoothie at the new trump gaza resort and casino.
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in reply to Microplasticbrain • • •finder
in reply to Saurok • • •The Russian Federation is a threat to Europe and the USA.
2021-2025.state.gov/russias-pi…
Technical Difficulties
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in reply to finder • • •https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M
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in reply to kuato • • •Al Jazeera is heavily influenced by the Qatari government. The same government that has the death sentence for apostasy and homosexuality.
Edit: Also Al Jazeera spun the mass-murder Yahya 'bring back suicide bombers' Sinwar as some honorable martyr.
Hamas restarts suicide bombings? Report says new chief Yahya Sinwar has issued orders to renew 'martyrdom operation'
Web Desk (The Week)kuato
in reply to finder • • •And the US State Department is literally the US State Department. The same US that just aided and abetted a Palestinian genocide for 15 months.
And Noam Chomsky is Noam Chomsky, regardless of who funded the production of that video.
1988 book on mass media by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky
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in reply to kuato • • •I think you need to reread his book, because looking at who funded the message is part of what Chomsky is talking about.
>The first level displays the public domain in which prominent ideologies within the masses can influence the intentions of mass media. The second level pertaining to the business firms accounts for the media’s source of information[14] as business firms are wealthy enough to supply information to media organizations while maintaining control over where advertisers can sell their advertisements and stories. The final layer, the governments of the major global powers, are the wealthiest subgroup of the pillars of society.
1988 book on mass media by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky
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