Bypass paywall clean calling home
Bypass Paywall Clean -call home
Having looked at various browsers and what calls they make, I noticed on Firefox and other android browsers that when Bypass Paywall Clean is installed from main source:
gitflic.ru/project/magnolia123…
It makes calls to gitflic.ru quite often wether using a bypass website or not.
Anyone know on what the calls are about and if they are legitimate and or what telemetry is being shared?
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Selfhosting -- temat zbiorczy
Witam.W ramach integracji i wymiany informacji w tym skupisku osób odpalam ogólny wątek gdzie możemy luźno wymieniać się postami dot. seflhostingu poprzez opisywanie swoich rozwiązań, historii czy poprzez udostępnianie ciekawych nowości znalezionych w sieci "Internet". To może ja zacznę.
Wstępnie
Zainteresowanie selfhostingiem "zaatakowało" mnie z trzech stron. Pierwszym źródłem pchnięć był taki podcast, może kojarzycie, nazywa się Internet. Czas działać!. Prowadzący mówili o systemie Yunohost ułatwiającym selfhosting. Drugim źródłem pchnięć był kolega ze studiów, który miał swojego NAS-a oraz Home Assistanta. Trzecie źródło to była chęć korzystania z CalDAV do synchronizacji tasków z tasks.org. Dlatego też zanim zacząłem hostować "świadomie", miałem VPS Ubuntu w Linode z Nextcloudem ale praktycznie nic wtedy nie ogarniałem.
Ścieżka sprzętowa
Zaczęło się od Raspberry Pi 3B+, na którym zainstalowałem Yunohost. Poznałem wtedy sporo ważnych aplikacji, z których korzystam do dzisiaj, np. Hedgedoc. Szybko jednak poczułem brak większej wydajności. Wtedy właśnie używane Mini PC zaczynały być tanie i dobre i za bodajże 800 zł kupiłem HP 800 z i5-6500t, na którego przeniosłem Nextclouda i kilka innych aplikacji. Następnie przeprowadziłem się i do tego doszedł rabbit hole w postaci Home Assistanta, a wcześniej wspomniane Raspberry Pi 3B+ teraz wykorzystywałem do Pi-Hole i VPN-a.
Udało mi się znaleźć jakiś neofetch z Raspberry
Po kilku miesiącach pojawiła się opcja przesiadki na znacznie wydajniejszy Asrock X300 z Ryzen 5 5700G. W tym komputerze mam więcej miejsc na dyski, dlatego też mam tutaj dyski 2.5" HDD w raid1 na zdjęcia i inne dane, mam też dodatkowy dysk na multimedia do Jellyfina. Z tego komputera jako serwera korzystam do dzisiaj i jest to najwydajniejszy sprzęt tego typu w moim zasobniku. Sprzęt pracuje dalej pod kontrolą Yunohost (teraz v12) ale przygotowuję się do migracji.
Komputer GMKTec z N100
Do migracji na inne rozwiązanie aplikujące IaaC. Dlatego też w moim zasobniku pojawił komputer GMKTec z Intel N100 (popularny wybór) w celu nauki Terraforma (a raczej OpenTofu) w połączeniu z Proxmoxem w oparciu o własne moduły i skrypty. Póki co, repozytorium na Codeberg rośnie sobie powoli.
Fragment kodu HCL
Dodatkowo mam VPSy w Mikrus i kilka rozwiązań w Scaleway. Po drodze za drugie mini pc "robił" u mnie Xiaomi Mini PC, ale ten sprzęt zmienił swoją rolę jako zapasowy komputer desktopowy. Mam też Orange Pi Zero 2, który zawsze pełnił rolę serwera, ale z różnymi aplikacjami, aktualnie serwuje cups oraz Adguard Home. Wykorzystuję także storagebox w Hetzner (do backupów) oraz mam router ASUS z OpenWRT.
Beszel
Aplikacje
Kilka aplikacji już zdradziłem, ale postaram się wymienić w punktach jak największą liczbę tych, którą używam.Hostowane przeze mnie:
- Nextcloud - baza dla kalendarzy, tasków, kontaktów, plików, zdjęć, tablic kanban i dokumentów. Nie wykorzystuję pełnego potencjału ale bardzo cenię sobie ten kombajn.
- Adguard Home - blocker reklam oparty o DNS. Cała konfiguracja i sposób zarządzania na trzech node'ach udostępniłem tutaj: codeberg.org/cichy1173/adguard…
- HedgeDoc - lekka aplikacja do notatek markdown. Trochę brakuje w niej tree view czy folderów, ale cieszy szybkością, wygodą, prostotą i opcją kooperacji i publikacji zawartości dla innych.
- Home Assistant - kombajn do smart home i nie tylko. Wykorzystuję tylko fragment możliwości ale jest to ważny element życia codziennego.
- Beszel - proste narzędzie do monitoringu i alertów. Podobne do Zabbixa ale znacznie prostsze.
- Overleaf - korzystam mniej, ale sobie cenię. Jest to kooperacyjny edytor LaTeX.
- Uptime Kuma - narzędzie do pingania wybranych hostów/stron itd. i alertowania w razie downtime'u.
- Wallabag - używam już nieco mniej, ale jest to zamiennik do Pocket, pozwala zapisywać artykuły na później.
- Jellyfin - narzędzie do streamowania swojej biblioteki multimediów. Taki własny Netflix.
- Lubelogger - taka cyfrowa książeczka serwisowa dla samochodów. Całkiem fajne narzędzie.
- RabbitMQ - Broker MQTT dla urządzeń Smart i nie tylko.
- Homebox - narzędzie do tworzenia inwentarza sprzętów. Niestety, od jakiegoś czasu nie używam i nie uzupełniałem zawartości.
- Silverbullet - aplikacja do notatek Markdown z obsługą skryptów. Na razie się na nią nie przesiadłem.
- Pinchflat - ma kilka zastosowań, ale ja tę aplikację wykorzystuję do przerabiania filmów YouTube na podcasty audio słuchane w AntennaPod.
- Hoarder - apka, w której zapisuję jakieś linki czy obrazki na później.
Niehostowane przeze mnie, ale dostępne do hostingu:
- Mealie - hostuje kolega. Narzędzie do zapisywania przepisów kuchennych.
- Codeberg, czyli Forgejo - git forge, zamiennik Githuba. Bardzo dużo ostatnio korzystam z tego narzędzia, włącznie z Forgejo Actions na moim własnym runnerze, hostowanym na Proxmox.
- Bitwarden i Bitwarden Secret Manager - korzystam z oficjalnej instancji. Znany i lubiany password manager.
- Telegram - tego akurat hostować się nie da, ale używam botów Telegrama w automatyzacjach i alertingu.
A jak to wygląda u Was?
adguard-home-cm-repository
This repository features OpenTofu code integrated with a Forgejo Actions Pipeline, designed to deploy and synchronize the configuration of AdGuard Home across all nodes.Codeberg.org
Officials from over 30 nations meet in Colombia to demand end to Gaza genocide
News Desk - JUL 16, 2025
Ministerial delegates from over 30 nations gathered in Bogotá, Colombia, for a two-day summit to discuss measures for the international community to stop Israel’s ongoing genocide of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.“Each state must immediately review and suspend all ties with the State of Israel … and ensure its private sector does the same,” UN special rapporteur for the occupied Palestinian territory, Francesca Albanese, said on Tuesday. “The Israeli economy is structured to sustain the occupation that has now turned genocidal.”
Officials from over 30 nations meet in Colombia to demand end to Gaza genocide
The historic conference aims to announce 'concrete measures' against Israel, provoking outrage from the US governmentthecradle.co
GamingOnLinux: Valve gets pressured by payment processors with a new rule for game devs and various adult games removed
Valve gets pressured by payment processors with a new rule for game devs and various adult games removed
Valve have added a new rule to the Onboarding guide for game developers, noting that payment processors get a say in what stays on Steam.Liam Dawe (GamingOnLinux)
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nickyflowers: It would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. The advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though their definitions of family and friendly are fucked. But since they're in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. TikTokers say things like "unalive" and "seggs" because they know death and sex are too adult for online. Online is for idiot babies only now because they're easier to market to.
nickyflowers: Oh I'm sorry you're a trans adult? Super ban. You are super banned for life. You have upset Visa's feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. How could you do this to Google Ads?
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For unrelated reasons, yes, but I'm considering the possibility that payment processors know they'll be asked to prove they aren't facilitating illegal transactions, and may have asked Valve to make purchase details available to them for that purpose. If Valve agreed to remove content from the store instead of blowing up user privacy, that would be a win.
But it might just be the PPs being dickheads.
Reddit’s UK users must now prove they’re 18 to view many types of content
Reddit hires company to verify user age with selfie or photo of government ID.
How to accommodate neurodiversity in video game development
How to accommodate neurodiversity in video game development
"It's like handing someone the wrong game controller and then judging them for not being able to play the game."Lewis Packwood (GamesIndustry.biz)
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But expecting neurodiverse people to thrive in an environment designed for neurotypical people is destined to fail, she thinks. "It's like handing someone the wrong game controller and then judging them for not being able to play the game."
I'm not sure that this is a good attitude to have. Therapy and individual treatment can help those who are neurodivergent to become adjusted and successful members of society. And learning can actually be good for you and expose you to stuff that might help in situations down the line in future.
I'm not against the idea of tools to assist those who are neurodivergent, but there's something to be said for overcoming diversity through work and practice and learning new skills.
i don't think its fair to expect failure because someone isn't "thriving" in an environment they're currently in.
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It is exhausting running around circles and accomplishing nothing when shit gets real.
Recently moved from my little apartment to a house. I started out organizing and writing the contents of each box on the top. Very quickly I found myself just throwing random shit into boxes because I was taking too long. My landlord suggested the move because I have 4 kids and I needed more space. He was nice enough to put me in a much bigger place for only 20% more than I was paying.
I was already exhausted when I decided I needed to take my old toilet seat, which has two seats, a little one for little butts, and then lift that for the regular one for regular sized butts. I removed it from the toilet, put the small bits in a ziplock bag, and drove directly to the house. I walked a straight line from the car to the bathroom, took off the other seat, and then I couldn’t find the little square parts that mounted the screws. I didn’t have much backtracking to do. Walked back to the car, couldn’t find them. Searched from the entryway to the bathroom, nowhere to be found. Carefully checked the ground around the sidewalk. Nothing. Drove back to the apartment, nothing. I managed to keep my temper, but I was ready to blow my brains out on the emotional end of things.
After losing 2 hours searching frantically for the parts, I went back in to put the other seat back on and give up. There they were, just laying there beside the toilet in a spot I had checked a thousand fucking times.
And then guess what? Fucking lost the screws to the other seat and repeated the whole goddamn ordeal. Wanna guess where they were? In the SAME FUCKING SPOT as the other pieces I had lost.
I’m so fed up. My doctor won’t treat me because he’s old school and because I have a history of drug abuse (which is how he came to be my doctor in the first place). I can’t move to a new one because I don’t have the time to establish myself in the program. When you start a drug treatment program you begin by going daily, then weekly, then biweekly, and then finally, monthly. They all require you to do AA/NA/CR. It took me years to get out of all of that crap and I do not have the time to do it with all of these kids. I hate going to group, and after enough time passes with no failed drug tests you can get out of it. I haven’t been in 5 years. I don’t want to go now.
I’m going to beg my doctor at my next visit. I am exhausted living like this. I’m tired of being a burden to everyone around me because I can’t hold focus on anything for a minute. Entire days go by and I’m just in some void without even realizing it.
I just had to get it off my chest. I’d give anything to be like the people around me.
Donkey Kong Bananza - Nintendo Switch 2 - Digital Foundry Tech Review
Donkey Kong Bananza is a technically ambitious Switch 2 showcase, despite some rough edges
John Linneman delivers the Digital Foundry tech review of Donkey Kong Bananza on Switch 2, including details on the visuals, performance, resolution and sound.John Linneman (Eurogamer.net)
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This is the flagship instance of PieFed, an open source project for the fediverse. Also try another server. Rulespiefed.social
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Dont know, but why do you need an app when it is an http sandbox for the mobile site that already works in a browser?
Why does every fucking thing need an app? Just use the website. It looks and works the exact same way, but doesn't send telemetry to Apple or Google.
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Perhaps I am... and perhaps you are too, and is that even wrong/bad, to have opinions about what we like or do not?
The world is as it is, not as we wish it. That said, power comes from realizing that and turning it to your advantage. I wanted to gently push you to consider that, but I may have come on too strong myself. Don't let me ruin your day!
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They responded to the accusations with the following press-releases, but I'm not convinced:
join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-17…
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[share author='Laurens Hof' profile='https://fediversereport.com/author/laurenshof/' avatar='' link='https://fediversereport.com/lemmy-ask-you-anything-again/' posted='2024-01-31 16:25:14' guid='08552256-0668a744067f1819-b3fbfa44' message_id='https://fediversereport.com/lemmy-ask-you-anything-again/']Lemmy ask you anything (again)
The Lemmy developers Dessalines and Nutomic hosted their another AMA this week. The conversations ranged from decentralisation, the developer roadmap and funding to platform identity, and I’ll go over some of the responses that stood out to me
Lemmy is applying for a new funding round from NLnet, and with their proposed project they will add 2 extra (paid) developers to the team if it gets approved. Their detailed planned milestones are laid out here. For the current developers, they’ll be focusing on a replacement web UI, as well as their Android app Jerboa, API and performance improvements, as well as transitioning to a donation-funded co-op.
In response to a question about interoperability with other platforms, Nutomic notes the difficulty working with other fediverse developers, especially Mastodon, and a describes a lack of interest of other platforms to become interoperable with Lemmy. These issues with interoperability and a lack of cooperation mainly concern platforms that are of a different nature than Lemmy; newer link aggregators like Sublinks are explicitly working on interoperability with Lemmy.
Dessalines’ comment on the identity of a platform is worth reading in full, where he says:
“At the same time, it was clear that we weren’t making the mistake of all the other reddit alternatives, by promising to be a free speech haven for bigoted communities. Those people actively did our work for us by warning their communities to stay away from Lemmy and its tankie devs, thereby making Lemmy a much more enjoyable place from the very beginning. That was a crucial test: we were not willing to sacrifice our values for growth’s sake.”
The association of the Lemmy developers with tankies has been criticised within the broader fediverse community before. However, in those conversations this viewpoint by Dessalines is rarely mentioned, in how it helps in keeping “free speech” bigotry away.
The developers are also thinking about how to avoid centralisation around a few larger servers. Part of their approach is with making sure random instances get offered to new people who join Lemmy, and they are actively looking at other ideas to combat centralisation. In another comment, Dessalines links the issue of centralisation with the problems he views with social media, saying:
“The biggest concern for me about Lemmy, would be a centralization onto one big server, that tries to replicate all the worst things and behaviors about reddit: its combativeness, xenophobia, bigotry, pro-US-foreign policy agendas, and advertising. There is a noticeable chunk of Lemmy’s users who don’t really see any problem with those things, they just want a reddit that lets them use 3rd party apps again.”
Overall, lets hope that more platforms join Lemmy and PeerTube in holding regular AMA’s with their communities.
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There is an entire community dedicated to this at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works (see especially the megathread post with many linked examples), while other communities mostly have stopped talking about it since it is such common knowledge (therefore "old news" and thus off topic), but see also some posts in e.g. !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com .
I note that lemmy.cafe is one of the only instances I've ever heard of that is brave enough to defederate from all three of the largest tankie instances, despite the main devs of the Lemmy software also being the admins of some of those.
Edit: also there is this interesting post: feddit.nl/post/16246531 .
I note that lemmy.cafe is one of the only instances I’ve ever heard of that is brave enough to defederate from all three of the largest tankie instances, despite the main devs of the Lemmy software also being the admins of some of those.
What does defederating mean?
A complete cutoff of all communication between instances (servers). Theoretically should only be used as a last resort, where the instance admins refuse to moderate their userbase, but in practice there seem to be several instances that contribute mainly negative (i.e. trolling) content to the rest of the Fediverse, in which case losing everything from them - all the good but also all the bad too - becomes worth it.
See also the "Nazi bar" effect: YOU may not be a Nazi, nor any of your friends, and you may meet separately like a quiet corner or back room, but if you hang out in a bar that becomes known for being friendly to Nazis, then anyone you invite to join you at the bar is likely to deny your request. The possibility of goodness of conversations with you in that case gets outweighed by the likelihood of bad interactions with the Nazis that they would have to pass by on their way to you.
Although in the case of Lemmy, it is not Alt-Right Nazis, but Alt-Left tankies, at hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and to a lesser but still very significant degree lemmy.ml.
"pro-fascist" and "tankie" are polar opposites. There is a clear contradiction in your claim.
Or you used the liberal definition where fascist means "not white enough" and tankie means the same...
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First you gotta ask Dessalines why he's banning people for shit like this and then hiding it under Rule 1.
lemmy.world/post/32825174
lemmy.world/post/32776038
lemmy.world/post/32720652
lemmy.world/post/32425984
And here's your other admin, Davel
Oh yeah, and the time you guys federated with Hexbear and were all buddy-buddy with their tankiejerk comments in the announcement post.
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Are you trying to pull a Regina George, or...? I think it's pretty clear why people abhor your instance when everyone's getting a piece of it from the very admins.
Anyway, we're not talking about that. You said it was slander, and there you have it, it turns out it's not.
Yes, the movie Mean Girls. Regina tyrannizes the whole school, antagonizes everyone and she's all, "why are you so obsessed with me"? Like, gurl, why do you think?
But like I said, I was only replying to you about the slander. We wouldn't have those receipts if people didn't post them when they happened in the first place. But my question is, if the whole point of Lemmy is to have the transparency that Reddit lacks, why are the admins discouraging people from looking, painting it all as an obsession?
Raise your hand if you've been personally victimized by Lemmy.ml
Dessalines: is an asshole to people.
People: "We don't like you."
What part of this is confusing to you? Dude literally won't post off .ml because he can't handle any push back or criticism without having the banhammer ready.
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One-time donations aren't properly supported yet, but you can discontinue your donation immediately after initiating the first payment.
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The Lemmy money is spread across 3 devs or so? And they have been writing it since 2018 or something. It's not surprising that they have more momentum and name recognition.
PieFed is new and on Codeberg. Especially the Codeberg thing, I like. It does lack a CI though. How stable is it?
I meant that codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi doesn't have a CI setup.
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Project background: https://join.piefed.social Demo site / Flagship instance: https://piefed.socialCodeberg.org
It breaks all the time but usually only for a tiny bit of time.
It has a docker setup, so in theory a good ci could start with just making sure that runs. Then we get the nicities like testing, e2e, deployment, ect ..
I'm honestly looking for any reasonable excuse I can to donate. I had a conversation with the devs back when they were begging across Lemmy a few months ago, and I told them that even if they just committed to stop moderating on .ml (while still running it as admins as their test instance), I'd set up a recurring donation.
But as we can clearly see from their ridiculous behavior recently as recorded on the various tankiejerk communities, they have not done so, and so I am not morally comfortable with sending them any money.
The ball's in their court.
Edit: Remember, folks, that when baited by someone from lemmygrad or hexbear, the only correct response is to not engage.
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Why are you making this up when you can literally go back and reread our conversation? I'd do it myself just to copy/paste the whole conversation here, but it was on my lemm.ee account and in the lemmy.ee "Lemmy needs more donations" thread so I can't access it anymore. Feel free to do so - I have nothing to hide.
Being this disingenuous isn't winning you any points.
Edit: Hell, I'm the one who gave ground here. My original stance was that you needed to give up all association with .ml entirely, and I backed off of that position when I heard how necessary it was as a dev instance.
I'm practically bending over backward here to give you money, and you just won't let me.
Sorry I talked with many dozens of people about this topic and dont remember what you specifically said. In my head it all got mixed together into a single conversation.
The way I see it, funding for Lemmy development is an entirely separate issue from the moderation of lemmy.ml. The moderation for an instance should only be decided by its local admins and users. Imagine lemmy.ml users going around and saying that lemmy.zip must change this or that thing. You would tell them to mind their own business, and with good reason.
I found your reply now, here it is. You were asking for lemmy.ml donations to be separate from other donations. This was already addressed long ago, see here.
Look man I rlly don't like the tankies but I still think its okay for a couple hardworking devs to get by. They're not getting rich from this.
People keep acting like these people need to be boycotted as if they were Jeff Bezos or something. It's just some devs working on this shit out of the good in their heart.
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41425 MAU/$4250.39 = 9.74.../$1
1629 MAU/$60.86 = 26,76.../$1
But....
That is the exact opposite of what the comment asked for
assuming your numbers are correct:
4250,39 $ ÷ 41425 MAU = 0,1026 $/MAU
60,86 $ ÷ 1629 MAU = 0,0374 $/MAU
edit: formating
Both of those things demonstrate the same point:
Lemmy has more funding per user (or, similarly, fewer users per dollar) by a large margin
can we say that it is insanely cheap?
for an online platform competing with the big social media companies a total of less than 500 per month is nothing.
want to know the cost per active user per month and compare when Reddit and Facebook overhead.
Den 4 juni 2024 sköts rapparen C. Gambino till döds i ett parkeringsgarage på Selma Lagerlöfs torg i Backa, Göteborg. Göteborgs tingsrätt har dömt tre personer för medhjälp till mord på den 26-årige mannen.
blog.zaramis.se/2025/07/16/tre…
Tre personer dömda för mordet på C. Gambino - Svenssons Nyheter
Tre personer dömda för mordet på C. Gambino. Den 4 juni 2024 sköts raopparen C. Gambino till döds i ett parkeringsgarage på Selma LagerlöfsAnders_S (Svenssons Nyheter)
Roblox launches IP licensing platform, partners with Netflix, Lionsgate
great..... csam movie trilogies and action figures..... child trafficking versions of kpop demon hunters.....
just what society needed 😮💨
homo sapiens is so not worth the trouble. mother nature should just incinerate us now and cut her losses.
I don't see a need. Roblox is FULL of unlicensed IP copies. Apparently labooboo (so?) is the thing now. They cram whatever the cool IP is into every game.
Sonic the hedgehog movie comes out - all of a sudden there are sonic obstacle courses. Sonic idle games. Sonic PVP. Sonic tower defense.
Lucio Russo: un argine all’irrazionalismo
Il 12 luglio è mancato Lucio Russo, figura singolare di scienziato e umanista, proprio perché nel suo percorso culturale i due termini erano indissolubilmente intrecciati. Nato a Venezia nel 1944, laureato in fisica a Napoli e professore ordinario di calcolo delle probabilità a Roma Tor Vergata, ci ha lasciato contributi e riflessioni che vanno molto al di là di un circoscritto settore scientifico. I suoi studi di storia della scienza mostrano una coerenza del tutto particolare anche con gli interventi pubblici sulla politica dell’istruzione.
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Media ljuger om Greta Thunberg. Många medier ljuger om Greta Thunberg och ett diplom hon fick. Diplomet var från en organsiation som av altl att döma står nära Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP).
I början av mars stoppade tulltjänstemännen vid Öresundsbron en norskregistrerad bil som kördes av en litauisk medborgare i 60-årsåldern. Han är också ägare av bilen. Bredvid honom satt hans jämnåriga ryska fru. De berättade att de varit på en längre semester i Litauen och är på väg hem till Norge där de bor.
Efterlyst i Sverige och gripen i Irak. En 27-årig man som använder aliaset Dybdala har gripots av irakisk polis, Han greps enligt media för några veckor sedan i Erbil. Det ligger i den kurdiska delen av Irak av den lokala säkerhetspolisen, enligt uppgifter till SVT.
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Ross Scott Gets A Second Chance For His ‘Stop Killing Games’ Crusade
Ross Scott Gets A Second Chance For His ‘Stop Killing Games’ Crusade
A little over a year ago we discussed YouTuber Ross Scott’s attempt to build political action around video game preservation. Scott started a campaign and site called Stop Killing Games when …Techdirt
Setting aside piratesoftware's concerns (that it's economically untenable to require devs to develop a form of their game's source that would be publicly releasable), I'm not clear on why games should have this requirement and no other media, particularly when games are so much more complicated.
If we can't even require physical releases of any show or movie or album, because the company still owns the copyright and might choose to profit from it in the future, how can we expect active investment in the unwinding of their copyright from devs? Seems a double standard.
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Like, I don't want to be misconstrued; I want to live in a world where this stuff is possible. I guess I just feel like Stop Killing Games is shortsighted in its current form, and will get caught on some technicality like this, that will ultimately sink it.
My hope is that if it comes to failure, it will be as you say, a first step towards driving this media preservation objective, and advance the conversation.
If it passed in its current form, my fear is that it would effectively be an extra tax and burden just for choosing to make games instead of some other type of media, and I'm concerned investors would see it that way too, and move their financial support to these surer bets, ultimately harming individual game developers and lessening game releases.
If it passed in its current form, my fear is that it would effectively be an extra tax and burden just for choosing to make games instead of some other type of media, and I’m concerned investors would see it that way too, and move their financial support to these surer bets, ultimately harming individual game developers and lessening game releases.
But for most games, I don't think it would it be an extra burden? As an armchair developer, most games might do a DRM check online, which would have to get removed or emulated or something.
For multiplayer shooters, I don't know if dev hosted servers are somehow a lot easier to do, compared to dedicated servers of yore, even if they're just internal, and would get a public release when the game is EOL. Depending on how things are defined, a single player, offline mode against bots might also count and "just" the multiplayer aspect gets shut down.
Games that would have a harder time are probably MMOs or Live Service games. I don't know how those would get sold/made, if you can never shut down the game. Maybe those types of games would basically have to be rented or something, so it's explicitly clear you're not getting a perpetual license.
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If it passed in its current form
It doesn't really have a "current" form.
An EU citizens initiative can really only outline what the goal is, and if passed, force the EU comission to investigate the problem to determine what an actual law could look like.
It would mostly harm always online live service models. This stuff only gets complicated if a game has micro-transactions, and therefore has to have a bunch of systems to handle payment and accounts.
If your game just does server-client/peer-to-peer multiplayer, like older games (and a lot of modern ones), there's barely any complexity to handle. Even less so if your game isn't online at all.
Basically every title on GOG would already comply with any law this might lead to. It's really not that demanding. The big publishers who nickle and dime their players are the only ones who would have a hard time. And that's a good thing.
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They're also the most complicated, and the production budgets, the resources available for archival, are often higher on blockbuster movies, as well as the barrier to entry being lower, for them to participate in archival, there's no such thing as spaghetti code in a movie
Like, why games first, unless you're specifically trying to tamp down their profitability as compared to other forms of media? I'm suspicious that this is the kind of shit the MPAA would pull because they're getting outcompeted.
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So, I have no idea how purchasing a show or movie (to own) digitally works, but I would think that at least you wouldn't have to worry about a server being taken down and not being able to access the movie, and I'm 100% certain that it's not a problem when you have a physical disk. The thing is, most media isn't being watched this way. It's watched on Netflix or any other streaming service where you aren't actually paying for a movie itself, which is why it's okay for them to delist it and you not be able to watch it anymore.
The reason that Stop Killing Games is happening is because people own a disk of The Crew and are physically unable to play the game now
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This campaign is not asking to take away IP from devs or publishers, they would still retain it.
Legally speaking, a game sold for a single payment and without clear stipulation of an end of service would be considered a Good under EU law. Tjis means you're purchasing a perpetual license to your specific copy of the game, but not to the IP or copyright.
Ross, the creator of the SKG campaign, goes into extreme detail on this very topic of goods vs services, and how the game industry is committing fraud by destroying a customer's ability to access the content their perpetual license allows.
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It sounds like you're asking genuinely. Ross' interest is in games, hence that's the area he started it in. He's already stretched to his limit co-ordinating this limited campaign. He also advised to keep the scope limited so that the opposition to it will be mostly from games companies (Nintendo, Sony, Ubisoft, EA etc.) Than from movie companies (Paramount, Disney, Warner Bros. etc.) who will be also pushing as hard, using a lot of lobby money and a whole web of arguments from different fronts, that will be more difficult to deconstruct and rebut.
For other audio and visual content, there are often "analog loopholes" that can preserve media even if in a slightly degraded form no matter how many layers of DRM you put. Games do not have a standard method to do that, so access is unilaterally and permanently taken away without a way for it to have been preserved.
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The Stop Killing Games’ end goal is that governments will implement legislation to ensure the following: \
Games sold must be left in a functional state \
Games sold must require no further connection to the publisher or affiliated parties to function \
The above also applies to games that have sold microtransactions to customers \
The above cannot be superseded by end user license agreements
It's asking for games to remain functional, not for source to become available. Even the Video Games Europe reply linked in the article mentions that the main problem, for them, is "keeping servers online indefinitely":
It appears to be a combination of a requirement to provide online services for as long as a consumer wants them^[It's not that, you fucking douchebags], regardless of price paid, and/or a requirement to provide a very specific form of end-of-life plan where the game is altered to enable private servers to operate^[This is the easy solution and perfectly doable, no matter what bullshit they try to use as an excuse. Don't want to keep your own servers anymore? Release the files needed to run private servers, update files so any game can connect to any private server, done.]. We do not believe these are proportionate demands.
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Why do people trying to advocate against the movement push the narrative that source code is being asked for or that it is the only solution to make games work after it is sunset?
Just put in an offline mode like was done for Redfall.
ign.com/articles/redfalls-fina…
Knockout City provided tools for gamers to run their own private servers after it shutdown
knockoutcity.com/private-serve…
Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League has servers still running but put in an update to provide offline mode
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And fans have picked up the slack in Hitman with the peacock project when the companies lock certain things to online.
To reimplement the server side part of Hitman to run locally. So that if/when the official servers go down, anyone can still play the game. They've also made it easier/better to mod the game in various ways.This includes leaderboards, contracts, game progression and unlocks, bonus/event missions, as well as being able to play elusive targets with scoring. All things that are unavailable when you play offline
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So that's what I'm guessing the movement wants. Just to leave the game in a playable state as opposed to inaccessible when servers go down. And source code wasn't provided for these solutions.
Redfall's Final Update Is Live, Bringing With It Offline Mode, DLSS 3, and More - IGN
Redfall's final content update is live, introducing a new rank-based reputation system, "dangerously modified special vampire" boss fights, single-player pausing, and its long-promised offline mode.Isaiah Colbert (IGN)
require devs to develop a form of their game’s source that would be publicly releasable
That's not a requirement or even expectation. The petition just requests that the game be reasonably playable after support ends, and only for people who bought it. That's it. That could mean:
- release the server binaries so they can be self hosted
- bake server logic into client and allow P2P play
- for some games, merely remove the server requirement and allow single player
Or whatever other option the studio prefers. The only expectation is that the game is still playable in some meaningful fashion after support ends. How they achieve that is up to them.
For all of these options, they don't need to:
- release source code
- give up any IP rights
- allow anyone who hasn't bought the game to play
The petition is intentionally vague on solutions to give publishers and studios as much choice in how they comply as possible.
It might be too late for the Threadiverse...
It was a rather sombering thread, that echoed quite a bit of what I've been saying about .ml, the Triad, general toxicity of their Tankie "ideology" for months now.
I know @ptz@dubvee.org was speaking of general toxicity, but the Triad is a huge chunk of it, the culture they create...festers it. They comprise the bulk of the hostility, I've personally seen it over and over and over again. All the "Just go back to Reddit" or "just another lib Redditor refugee" comments for someone that dared to have nuance.
Hell, I saw hex users fucking cheering .ee's shutdown because it was some sort of psyop/CIA/fed/lib/"They didn't perfectly agree with me" instance. They call feddit.org a "Nazi Zionist" instance for the crime....of not wanting to be arrested and complying with German law...
I haven't looked to see if they've started any "celebratory" posts about Dubvee yet and I also don't really want to, if they're there, I already know what they're going to say in it -_-
Unfortunately, I fear the problem was far worse than I thought.
Ptz speculated that the toxicity has "metastasized". And you know what? He might be right, it seemed to be a lot better off 2 years ago, now....now I feel we might be losing the battle against the toxicity and I don't think PieFed will be enough. Complacency has set in
My hope was that with enough instances defederating from .ml and the rest of the Triad, it would be a tad easier to take down toxic Tankies, trolls and their alts. But, few wanted to burn the bridge with the toxic main devs' instance and now it might be too late. (Cheers to @Illecors@lemmy.cafe and the lemmy.cafe instance, one of the few of note to actually defederate from the entire triad!)
Like ptz said and I fully agree with, this place started with promise 2 years ago, but it appears to be ultimately morphing into 4chan (or like I've been saying, Voat 2.0) after all
Oh well, I've got some thick ass skin so I'll probably be here till the end, till the last sane instance shuts down.
I'll see you there @dessalines@lemmy.ml
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Heck, maybe I'll do a hail Mary and start an instance on a custom fork of lemmy with "normie proof" onboarding while dumping a few hundred in ADs (Maybe even on Reddit itself, HA!). I'll flood this place with "normies" LMAO
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For myself, I dont know how to tell the “subtle” trolls apart from people who are really just misinformed.
Based on my decades of experience anyone who could be described as a 'subtle' troll is just misinformed people. So many people expect everyone to know everything they do that malicious intent is assumed when anyone disagrees with them that accusations of trolling are tossed out like cheap bubble gum at a small town parade.
If a 'troll' seems subtle, just assume they are misinformed!
They call feddit.org a "Nazi Zionist" instance for the crime....of not wanting to be arrested and complying with German law...
Yeah how dare we :/
And how dare we don't want needlessly endless drama that doesn't lead to anything.
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Uh, I'm not sure if you read a different thread, but in his formal shutdown thread in !announcements@dubvee.org he was quite clear about it being about fighting against the toxicity. He basically got to a good point, but because of the .ee wake he had to start over.
But yes .ee was a special case, it was sad especially being the second largest instance. But a second instance shutdown in a month also citing burnout and toxicity is a red flag.
Now I'm worried if next week SJW or slrpnk is going to announce their shutdown due to toxicity
Now look at social media. You'll see irrationals infesting every platform. Reddit in special encourages it, and most lemmings are from Reddit.
True, but on other social media, there's millions of users and it's a LOT easier to dilute the toxicity when a SMs D/MAU is being measured in the millions
Why this matters: because I believe people here are focusing too much on .ml and Hexbear, without noticing the problem would still persist without them.
Yea, but I really think .ml not being defederated from is causing a bit of a feedback loop encouraging similar toxic behavior in other users for their own, even non-Tankie, reasons
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If you put an average person in here with a minimal idea of what 4chan is, what would they say this place is like?
When they inevitably get scared off because some .ml users were going off ranting about how such such article about NK that got posted was actually western propaganda and that "NK is all good actually", what do you think they'll tell others?
This isnt about me or you, we have thick skin and can deal with the BS toxicity and have even become desensitized to it so it doesn't seem that bad
But we are not the average person and if we want the Threadiverse to succeed and maybe even threaten Reddit a bit, we need the normal users
If you put an average person in here with a minimal idea of what 4chan is, what would they say this place is like?
What is that supposed to argue? That someone random might be ignorant?
But we are not the average person and if we want the Threadiverse to succeed and maybe even threaten Reddit a bit, we need the normal users
That's all well and good, but we're still, nowhere near 4chan, voat or even Twitter. Claiming that lemmy is "just as bad as voat" is nonsense and just serves to make people like me dismiss their opinions as someone ignorant and exaggerating.
I'll take someone claiming that a post about North Korea is western propaganda over someone that is trying to explain, how supporting genocide is somehow the right political choice.
I feel like the people that feel an over presence of "tankies" on instances that aren't ml, hexbear or grad, are confused that the fediverse is notably more left-leaning than what they are used from reddit, Twitter or other corporate social media. Being exposed to maybe not being that "lefty" after all and more of the right side of the political spectrum here, seems to rub them the wrong way.
Here's a screenshot of the !worldnews@lemmy.ml As you can see, on the "tankie instance" News positive for Ukraine is getting the upvotes and stuff positive of Russia is getting the downvotes
Here’s a screenshot of the !worldnews@lemmy.ml As you can see, on the “tankie instance” News positive for Ukraine is getting the upvotes and stuff positive of Russia is getting the downvotes
Would you like to check the modlogs next?
I usually don’t get bothered by people on the Internet, but holy fucking shit how I was absolutely going crazy over the fact that people unironically shill North Korea.
I'm Korean. We are under constant threat of shit balloons and missiles. They punish people and their family members for trying to leave the country. How can one possibly look at that and say, "Yep, that's fine"?
It's more ugly that they are also implicitly saying that you, as a Korean, should just become the plaything of Kim Jong Un. That really you should actually just become a puppet of them.
Said safe and sound somewhere from a bedroom in the USA.
B-b-but on the other hand, someone got a splinter somewhere in your country, so... you know... bOtH sIdEs SaMe?
(logic is not their strong suite, so much as loudly repeating something until people stop arguing back, at which point they declare victory, feel emboldened, and push even further)
It's a spectrum and Lemmy is definitely a far more toxic place then reddit is if you don't agree.
The dubvee shutdown posts makes some valid point, but I disagree on a few others.
The communities I'm in are mostly safe from toxic users
- !movies@piefed.social
- !casualconversation@piefed.social
- !wholesome@reddthat.com
- !lego@piefed.social
- !football@sopuli.xyz
I avoid news and politics, that probably helps a lot on that regard
This might be a call for mods to keep an eye on reports, and for users to post and comment on well moderated community. !fedigrow@lemmy.zip can help.
It's sad to see Admiral Patrick go, but it's not all doom and gloom.
Reddit keeps enshittifying (DM shutdown, UK age verification), we might see new people come here soon.
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Yes, definitely.
I only keep !funny@sh.itjust.works as it's usually actual funny content and not political messages (whatever the stance) hidden behind memes
I don't want to block half the Fediverse, and I don't want to make myself spiral into despair by inadvertently exposing myself to depressing news so I stay off /all.
For finding new communities I use stuff like
!newcommunities@lemmy.world
!communitypromo@lemmy.ca
!trendingcommunities@feddit.nl (RIP)
UK age verification
Isn't that an issue that literally all platforms that are active in the UK have to deal with, unless they are exclusively doing content that is considered appropriate for children? Or did Reddit do something that is extra-bad?
NSFW content as they define it? It's one thing to allow porn, but e.g. tumblr had a whole thing about banning transition timelines (AFAIK including ones that only had clothed pictures) and many consider any kind of sex education inappropriate for children. Plus the whole issue of violence and gore, which is a common theme in the news.
I have little faith about the UK being reasonable about this. And AFAIK it's not enough to ban certain types of content, they also have pretty steep requirements for how fast a website has to moderate it if users post disallowed content, with hefty fines if you don't comply well enough that would immediately bankrupt many smaller sites depending on how it's enforced.
I avoid news and politics, that probably helps a lot on that regard
Honestly, same. As an ML user (this is my UK alt), I never really saw any of toxicity described by so many others, but I guess I just learned early on to put my filters up and have been living in my own bubble within ML.
If a place gets toxic, I tend to just leave instead of doubling down, and that I think is a pattern that might be alien to some because how reddit used to function: you couldn't just leave reddit politics-wise because the frontpage literally hammered you with it, so you'd have to stand your ground and fight until users or mods waded in. But here? You can leave lemmy politics-wise because the frontpage is either your subs or local posts filtered through your block lists.
I'm very happy in my bubble, and it does genuinely confuse me when someone says "oh, you're from ML, are you?" and I think "yeah... and it's mostly quiet, just the way I like it"
you couldn’t just leave reddit politics-wise because the frontpage literally hammered you with it, so you’d have to stand your ground and fight until users or mods waded in. But here? You can leave lemmy politics-wise because the frontpage is either your subs or local posts filtered through your block lists.
How is this different from Reddit? Reddit has a user feed that consists of communities you're subscribed to and lemmy's All is the direct equivalent to r/all, i.e. Reddit's front page, and you could also block communities (at least with Reddit Enhancement Suite, not sure if that's a feature of the Reddit itself). The main difference is the existence of instances and their Local feeds. Note that it's been a while since I used Reddit beyond looking at Reddit posts that I found in web searches, might be that the feeds don't work like I remember them anymore.
Unfortunately I think some of this perception is an example of the echo chamber problem of social media.
If you're in the politics and news echo chambers you see horrendous toxicity all the time. But if you're in hobby groups and interest groups that have nothing to do with politics it's generally not toxic in my experience.
I'm in both and there are loads of positive and kind communities and people around. I fear the moderators in particular have an understandably skewed view as they have to trudge through the toxic shit every day and protect a lot of the rest of us from it.
I think there is something to be said for more defederation of entire instances where toxic cuktures are allowed to thrive, even if they also happen to host more positive communities too. Those communities need to move and the priority for the Threadiverse tech needs to be enabling movement of communities as easily and painlessly as possible so the toxic areas can be left to fester on their own.
Yea, no, I know you and whatever ban was handed down was justly deserved.
It keeps them contained and easy to block.
It's a failed theory, they all have alts upon alts, and block isn't a block on Lemmy
I sure did, I nipped a transphobic comment before it devolved into a full blown argument.
You are the "pORn iS A SiN" "HOmOSeXUalItY MakES jEsUS CrY" user. You are one of the ones they are talking about that is "subtle" in their trolling.
It was a response to openly mocking people’s choice to raise their children Christian.
It really wasn't: p.feddit.uk/post/feddit.uk/318…
The premise of the meme is that's it's hypocritical to think that children can't understand the ideas of being gay or trans, but somehow can decide to be Christian. Your response is mostly non sequitur and implies it's actively dangerous to teach kids about gay people.
It was a rather sombering thread, that echoed quite a bit of what I've been saying about .ml, the Triad, general toxicity of their Tankie "ideology" for months now.
A lot of what Patrick is referring to goes well beyond the 'tankie triad' (two of which are banned from most instances anyway).
Hell, I saw hex users fucking cheering .ee's shutdown because it was some sort of psyop/CIA/fed/lib/"They didn't perfectly agree with me" instance. They call feddit.org a "Nazi Zionist" instance for the crime....of not wanting to be arrested and complying with German law...
And yet all that happened was with lemm.ee shutting down, hexbear became more isolated because lemm.ee actually federated with them.
Outside of .ml, most tankies are despised across the fediverse.
Yea, but I really think .ml not being defederated from is causing a bit of a feedback loop encouraging similar toxic behavior in other users for their own, even non-Tankie, reasons
Can I just say that if instances start flipping from being lemmy instances to piefed instances, as is slowly happening, then lemmy.ml will potentially find itself more marginalised and the questions of defederation will happen. As it stands now, lemmy.ml is the foundational instance for the lemmy software and that is likely the primary reason why many instances won't pull the plug.
But is that from a "normie" perspective or from a regular Threadiverse user perspective? Because from a regular Threadiverse user perspective many have become desensitized I feel, and that's also another aspect of the problem.
Because ptz has been operating on tamping down toxicity with the goal of it being attractive to the average user.
The Threadiverse will not actually achieve much without the "normies"
echoed quite a bit of what I’ve been saying about .ml, the Triad, general toxicity of their Tankie “ideology” for months now.
Sorry, how is his post at all about the 'triad'?
Frankly, I think it's the constant attempts at instigating flame wars that I find to be so grating, not the users with opinions I find distasteful. I have no idea what ptz's specific experience was like, but seeing a prominent anti-tanky crusader project their personal vendetta onto this announcement is the kind of shit I find myself constantly rolling my eyes at.
Federated social media is built to facilitate community between people of different preferences, and it's exactly this constant crusading that's likely to extinguish it. You think you're on a mission of purification but it looks more like you're extinguishing what little enthusiasm there was for lemmy to begin with. Defederation is absolutely a tool for moderation, but making it your entire mission to push for it in every space you participate in is itself a suffocating cancer.
Let people decide for themselves what instances they want to commune with and stop pestering the entire platform into reflecting your personal tastes.
Now I would really like to make a deepdive and see how did blackskyweb.xyz manage to become huge moderating force in AT proto(bluesky).
I was surprised that over those 2 years bluesky is kinda selfhostable. Maybe decision to make instances more important than people has doomed ActivityPub to become a toxic cesspool. I still remember how technology connections has resigned from mastodon over toxicity.
I saw this toxicity at the beginning and changed how I interact with the network. No controversial topics whatsoever, no OC memes as they will be bashed. Now I just repost stuff from tumblr and comment here and there.
Bluesky's network topology doesn't work like APub's, so this question doesn't really make sense. Like, what is the 'instance' here? The relay? The users' PDS? The AppView? I suppose the PDS provider could ban a user and this would then be indexed by the relay(s). We can argue all day about how decentralised the AT Protocol is, but Bluesky the platform makes no effort to be decentralised*.
* By decentralised I mean a platform controlled by multiple independent actors, a multi-stakeholder platform. Even if you use a non-Bluesky the company relay + app view, it's still centralised around whoever is hosting those.
I knew by asking the question we would get into the Bluesky components questions 😅
Let's say tomorrow the feddit.uk team decides to self host a PDS provider.
Is it possible for the feddit.uk team to ban someone, or can that only be done by Bluesky? Would that ban be federated to other PDS providers?
Edit: I feel like Bluesky has the same issue than the Fediverse has with federated bans and alts, but because everybody uses Bluesky's centralized components, nobody notices.
I ~~don't~~ have concrete sources and answers but I know wafrn.net has banned JD vance in their server.
Oh… I found the thread: kolektiva.social/@sanana/11471…
I think bluesky is split in couple of microservices that you can host individually. A moderation service called Labbeler can directly talk to federation service called Firehose That can block identity as it's attached to a person regardless of hosting instance (PDS).
So you don't have to host whole AT proto stack but only a part of it. Just the data, just the pipeline or just the moderation. On fedi you NEED to host whole instance from data to moderation in one go.
Edit: medium quality blogpost about this cyrneko.eu/blog//there-is-no-b…
Labels and moderation | Bluesky
Moderation in Bluesky consists of multiple, stackable systems, including:docs.bsky.app
about alts. It would still be a problem but not bigger than usual, as anyone can make an alt. But as AT proto guarantees easy migration between PDSs there won't be a situation where suddenly lemmy.ee users get unbanned because they MUST make an alt.
I think there are still some problems that I can't see but if I would be able to subscribe to toxic user list curated by lemmy.world team for my 10 mau instance I would.
This is a battle with toxicity and so far fedi is losing. Every step to gain a little of safe ground would be a step into right direction.
Let’s say tomorrow the feddit.uk team decides to self host a PDS provider.Is it possible for the feddit.uk team to ban someone, or can that only be done by Bluesky? Would that ban be federated to other PDS providers?
We could stop hosting the account and purge it from our DB, though IRRC the user can migrate to a new host and have Bluesky populate that with their old data, because everything is public on AT and is kept in Bluesky's relay (I think this is a bad thing, just fyi). The user would still be banned from the various labelers as these operate (I presume) on the accounts DID, which should stay the same across migration. PDS providers don't talk to each other, PDS don't do much so don't really need to. They just store data.
Edit: I feel like Bluesky has the same issue than the Fediverse has with federated bans and alts, but because everybody uses Bluesky’s centralized components, nobody notices.
Bluesky does genuinely have some better moderation tools, labelers are something I think even us on Lemmy/PieFed/whatever might want to look at. But these aren't magic and there's plenty of toxicity on Bluesky, Bluesky just gives you some more tools to help manage it. When Mastodon gets the ability to disable replies I think will help a lot.
After all these years...?
Well, then it sucks for them to have to find out this way, but I do not want to allow such hostages to change my own determined path forward.
That said, PieFed, but crucially not Lemmy, allows for TRUE blocking of all users from an instance. Lemmy has something that is called that but surprise surprise, allows users to DM you, reply to your messages, thereby generating notifications, vote on your content, etc., and so is the absolute weakest "block" I have ever heard of (I am trying politely to say that it is a sham, and is no "block" at all). On PieFed though, any user that individually wants to defederate from an instance can do so - which is a game-changer (enticing me to join PieFed.social long before it was fully ready, since that one feature alone made it worth my while, in comparison to e.g. leaving the Threadiverse entirely b/c I was just so very tired of all the BS that I kept having to put up with everywhere).
Yeah, while people can have their valid criticisms of the culture of various instances, we need to be extremely wary of the idea that the problem will be solved if we just isolate outselves from the folks we sit furthest from on the political spectrum. I've seen toxicity from folks on all sorts of instances, even if some have more (though I've honestly seen more from certain instances other than the triad)
Literally every platform has toxicity, regardless of its political makeup. If we want to improve the culture of this space we can't just scapegoat a couple instances (that to be fair, do seem to have big issues from what I've seen from other folks, though my interactions have been mostly cordial)
And leftist spaces seem to chronically struggle a lot with in-group fighting and toxicity because we're all driven by our care for issues of moral importance- which often lets us justify being shitty to one another if we can frame someone as the villain in the story of an issue we care about.
I think creating a culture that is unwelcoming of anti-social, bad faith behaviour regardless of whether we agree with the stance or not would help massively. But that is a difficult thing to create structure around doing.
I know exactly nothing about the green party but like Jesus fuck you'd think leftists would have learned that's an important word to stop diluting given many of us are living under a system slipping into actual full blown fascism and it's an increasingly big problem globally
Its so painfully harmful to leftist causes to go around accusing your fellow leftists of being a nazi for not being your exact flavor of left. We all need to cut that shit out and grow some emotional and interpersonal maturity.
(not the comments and posts that .ml users make on other instances, I want to be able to downvote and report them if other non-tankie users can see them).
Not yet. We are waiting for an upstream change that would allow us to import existing bcrypt hashed passwords from the Lemmy database.
In my experience Piefed is quite fast, maybe there was some temporary issue with the piefed.world instance?
It's crazy that I've been on Lemmy for like 2 years and I think I've encountered direct toxic behavior only a handful of times. Obviously I'm aware of the trolls and problematic instances, but those can easily be blocked.
Am I the asshole?
That is the worlds tiniest block list IMO. Mine is several seconds to scroll from top to bottom, which is inconvenient to add new blocked instances.
Do you browse your own subs, the local subs, or all? I myself am constantly cruising on "all" for the variety.
It was an old truism on Reddit that you could avoid 99% of the worst behaviour by just never going on /r/all or visiting the default subs. If you just visit communities you actually like, you have a much nicer experience.
It's the same here. I subscribe to a bunch of communities I enjoy, and I browse Local on my home instance feddit.uk. I basically never go on the big All feed. And my experience is pretty tranquil; rarely do I see any trouble, and even more rarely trouble that the mods/admins can't keep on top of.
I saw some research about this recently let me see if I can find it, it was based on reddit communities but I think it applies to lemmy as much if not more.
ah here it is
ABSTRACTSocial media’s role in the spread and evolution of extremism is a focus of intense study. Online extremists have been involved in the spread of online hate, mis- and disinformation, and real-world violence. However, most existing work has focuses on right-wing extremism. In this paper, we perform a first of its kind large-scale measurement study exploring left-wing extremism. We focus on “tankies,” a left-wing community that first arose in the 1950s in support of hardline actions of the USSR and has evolved to support what they call “Actually Existing Socialist” countries, e.g., CCP-run China, the USSR, and North Korea. We collect and analyze 1.3M posts from 53K authors from tankie subreddits, and explore the position of tankies within the broader far-left community on Reddit. Among other things, we find that tankies are clearly on the periphery of the larger far-left community. When examining the contents of posts, we find misalignments and conceptual homomorphisms that confirm the description of tankies in the theoretical work. We also discover that tankies focus more on state-level political events rather than social issues. Our findings provide empirical evidence of the distinct positioning and discourse of left-wing extremist groups on social media.
Essentially that there a bunch of far-left users (in reddit in this case but in other places too) colloquially refered to as "tankies". They are noticably different from other groups and the centre- and far-left in what they talk about, who they associate with, and the agressiveness of their discussions.
They are far more focused on parroting the offical state position of the CCP, DPRK and Russia, far less interested in social issues and more interested in geo-politics, and far more likely to use violent language "kill the libs" etc.
The authors show this by looking at a huge chunk of reddit posts seeing who posts what, where and how communities link to each other.
This figure
is hard to understand at first but instructive once you do. For each of the word pairing the word on the left is what the tankie subreddits use and the one on the right is what the non tankie far-left subreddit in that column uses, the number is how strong this difference is. For example the blue one in the third column (Zelensky - Trump) means that the tankies use "Zelensky" in the same way the r/DemocraticSocialism uses "Trump", presumably talking shit about them. It gives a sense of just how different the discourse is between them and even the groups who you would expect to be ideologically most similar to them, and how they hugely prefer to use terms and framing that the Russian and Chinese government do.
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