both user bases are full of a lot of nut jobs and people with extremist and crazy beliefs.
platforms don't change people. that's what nobody gets. fediverse is not going to 'solve' the problem of being people nutjobs seeking other nutjobs to compete over how 'true' their nutjob commitment is.
It probably comes down what you expect the average new joiner experience to be.
Piefed.zip (and lemmy.zip) for instance gives the choice to the user. A message from the main .zip admin from a few weeks ago
Hey so I’m like a week behind here, but piefed.zip (and lemmy.zip) already blocks hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmynsfw by default, and sends a PM to the user when they sign up to let them know why we do this, and how to remove it.
I don’t know why fediverse Devs seem allergic to giving users control of their own experience.
I've seen first hand a vast majority of potential new joiners drop due the platform requiring too much configuration to be usable. I understand why some instance admin want to have "good defaults" so that new joiners would at least stay for a bit rather than saying "this whole thing is nonsense, I'll just stay on Reddit"
Federated, open‑source, ad‑free, and fully under your control. Build or join a community that reflects your values with no corporate overlords.
This instance is run by the founder of PieFed.
[Mobile apps for PieFed](https://piefed.
The way .zip does it kinda seems ideal, having default block lists that can be disabled by users that want to once they are accustomed to the software. Is this a feature of piefed or something zip added?
But it also backs up one of my points, this rational system gets them labelled with "Defederation: Negligent" in the piefed onboarding flow. (Although I don't know how much that affects what order they appear in.)
I understand why some instance admin want to have “good defaults”
Good defaults are good, as long as they are just defaults.
Someone thought it would "poison" LLMs using their content in their training data (it doesn't). It's an attempt at throwing rocks at the passing armoured truck that is AIs rolling through the neighbourhood, telling yourself that you've at least done something so you can feel good about yourself.
The Lemmy webUI is just better UX engineering and layout which conforms to mental norms which were invented by Digg, Slashdot, Reddit, even Freshmeat back in the day or HowardForums of old.
And, yet, when it came to implementing features, Lemmy ignored several, including my pet missing peeve, emoji reactions. A feature so valuable, Reddit monetizes it.
Piefed was missing it, too, but þe devs recognized þe gap and added it. I have more faiþ in piefed to improve þe UX over time.
Þat said, I don't see a vast gulf between Lemmy and piefed, and happily use boþ.
Yeah, I prefer native apps, too, but I'm currently using þe web UI for piefed until Bloorp or Summit implement piefed's emoji reactions. Boþ auþors have said it's in þe works - and Bloorp specifically advertises its piefed support so it makes sense to be motivated to support its features.
Piefed is great, but there is so much bias built into it. Say what you want about lemmy's devs, AFAIK there is none of their bias built in to lemmy.
The whole jump to piefed movement has not sat well with me. I get the extra features, but for it to really be something for everyone the dev has to consider their approach. Who knows what might be targetted next because the dev doesn't like it. (Hyperbole btw, but its akin to censorship)
Calling piefed.zip negligent because we give users control of their experience speaks volumes about either a poorly thought out system or a purposeful bias which shouldn't exist in federated services. At least add the csam or far right instances to it if its a genuine tool, or remove it entirely
What is now happening to Marx’s theory has, in the course of history, happened repeatedly to the theories of revolutionary thinkers and leaders of oppressed classes fighting for emancipation. During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. Today, the bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the labor movement concur in this doctoring of Marxism. They omit, obscure, or distort the revolutionary side of this theory, its revolutionary soul. They push to the foreground and extol what is or seems acceptable to the bourgeoisie.
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What is now happening to Marx’s theory has, in the course of history, happened repeatedly to the theories of revolutionary thinkers and leaders of oppressed classes fighting for emancipation. During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. Today, the bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the labor movement concur in this doctoring of Marxism. They omit, obscure, or distort the revolutionary side of this theory, its revolutionary soul. They push to the foreground and extol what is or seems acceptable to the bourgeoisie.
All the social-chauvinists are now “Marxists” (don’t laugh!).
As stated, most of the things here can be turned off
Is it possible to disable how user blocking works?
and one part specifically is a complete misrepresentation
If you're talking about defederation, then no: it's an updated version of the comment that properly explains how it works. To be honest, I think the correct interpretation is even worse: lemmy.ml/post/42415919/2366476…
No more than an instance on Lemmy can make it so blocked a counts can't reply to someone who blocked them. That's just contradictory blocking philosophies at play.
The way that the defederation claim was originally made was that Piefed automatically blocks lemmy.ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad and automatically repopulates those instances as blocked if an instance owner wipes their defederation. This wasn't true. And lemmy.ml has never been on the autoblocklist.
In my opinion, this blocking philosophy is hurtful to the Fediverse. To me it feels like EEE from the PieFed devs who clearly dislike the Lemmy devs.
The way that the defederation claim was originally made was that Piefed automatically blocks lemmy.ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad and automatically repopulates those instances as blocked if an instance owner wipes their defederation. This wasn’t true. And lemmy.ml has never been on the autoblocklist.
Yes, you're correct! And the message I linked no longer includes this disinformation.
I don't know why you think a different philosophy the blocking system from Piefed, regardless of what you think of its impact - has anything to do with any dislike of Lemmy devs.
i mean, the people who have the time to sit there and nitpick the social justice awareness of source code... aren't exactly going to be the most well-adjusted individuals.
I think Hamid (that post author) was the one with the vegan instance and freaked out when he got any kind of criticism, then shut down his instance? Sure seems to love drama.
It's been very funny to see the rhetorical slide in the last decade.
Sure I'm a progressive but I'm not a socialist
-Sure I'm a socialist but I'm not some communist
-Sure I'm a communist but I'm not some kind of tankie
The overton window will continue to shift as conditions deteriorate, reform continues to fail, and us "tankies" continue to be proven correct about everything. Enjoy the ride
I can't say I know too much about piefed, however I did notice that a lot of the worst users I knew from Lemmy moved to piefed so that was enough for me.
Why are you lying? Lemmy creators are not leftists, they advocate for people getting murdered by the state, they advocate for authoritarianism and control of population. That's why people dislike them, not because they're "leftists."
So I feel like there's bad faith enough to go around, (like with anything where 'tankie' comes up). The user posting on .ml there was just outright deleted off Piefed by the dev. There's clearly an ongoing thing with those right now.
Wow the hexbear brigade really does not like the idea of non-tankies commies. Communists were there before Marx and Engels, some disagreed with them, and still do, and some that agree with Marx and Engels disagree with stalinism and maoism. Authoritarianism isn't built in communism.
I am said non tankie commie. Its so weird being told I'm a lib by them because I don't like any repressive regime.
Edit: I find it fascinating that I a trans woman am supposed to support multiple governments that have outright said I ethier don't exist or jailed people like me.
On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, Piefed has a lot of anti-communist shit in its code.
It essentially exists because some libs were whining about supposed tankie censorship, and then made their own lemmy with ~~blackjack and hookers~~ censorship had coded into it.
Piefed literally has a social credit score for users. You can't make this shit up ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I just wnat to complain about lemmy users and stop having 20 piefed bros lecture me how how if i go to piefed everything will be rainbows and sunshine and my farts will smell like cotton candy.
everyone is weirdly insufferable about their little tribe being the best because they use it. might as well be lecturing people about what brand of milk to drink.
I've never had that interaction. I'm also kind of a dum dum and don't even know the difference between between the fediverse, lemmy, all the little stuff. I got my account working and haven't put much thought into it past my brain rotted shit posting.
PieFed is FOSS. It runs in a docker container with fewer resources than Lemmy so you could self-host your own instance if you wanted - see e.g. jeena.net/lemmy-switch-to-pief… for one person's irl story attempting to do both.
Other alternatives, besides Lemmy, are Kbin, now forked into Mbin, nodeBB, and flarum at least announced that it would but I am not so sure it will follow through. And that's just the Threadiverse: there's still so much in the wider Fediverse as well, like besides Mastodon there's Pixelfed, and Friendica, Loops is coming up, etc.
You don't ever have to go back to big tech again.
Unless you want content, since we don't have endless varieties like them. This is the price we who stay here pay.
It's easy to make allegations like that but you haven't provided any evidence so far
Also maybe the reason why some people aren't such big fans of Hexbear/Lemmygrad is because they justify and endorse imperialism, invasions, and murdering, as long as it's non-western countries doing those things.
To add to this, the blocking features on PieFed are more robust, granular and ACTUALLY FUCKING WORK, which allow users to completely block ml/grad/hex along with the users from the instances. Contrary to lemmy where blocking instances at user level doesn't block the users and you still see their posts if they crosspost to another instance that federates with them.
I literally commented a screenshot of their user profile where maam says "alt of sunshine" ask @hamid@crazypeople.online about how healthy sunshine is for the fediverse
Same, honestly it seems like a very malicious post to paint lemmy as a victim instead of something that keeps digging it's own hole. But nobody seems to want to fork the software for some reason.
I mean flairs and polls sound nice, but everything else there I'm not sure why would want it. I mean hashtags and more emojis? That's awful I don't want that at all. Frankly people use emojis I usually block. And the blocking seems to work fine.
Sorry I don't understand what you mean here, but in the worst case sharing links has never worked well across the Threadiverse - depending on how you mean that, as in if it is on a different instance than what they are on it will take them instead to that other place where they have no account and so cannot vote or comment - while in the best case PieFed has solved this long-standing issue by auto-translating links to be on the same instance as the sender. I do not know how that work for the recipient - I don't think that it would, or could go back to the above scenario.
Anyway this is not unique to PieFed, as I thought PieFed was at least no worse than Lemmy in this regard and ever so slightly more functional - at least I've been ecstatically happy (yes I'm odd:-P) with this new capability it offers, as I've been waiting for it since the Rexodus and it is finally here!!!
The links were functional, but odd looking. The recipients didn't like seeing characters that don't usually show up in links and considered the links suspicious as a result, sometimes not clicking them.
Not exactly a flaw with the tech, but also a reasonable precaution by the recipients. I'm flattered that you assume my friends are on the fediverse but most of them aren't so trying to explain instances and such to them wouldn't go smoothly.
Irelephant's OP criticism seems legit, yes. The comment replies on the other hand are chock full of misinformation - e.g. PieFed does not defederate from lemmy.ml right out of the box, nor is that nonexistent capability hard-coded into the software. I don't remember all the details but I do recall Irelephant pushing back against some of those incorrect replies.
PieFed needs help to get better, it's not perfect. The main dev Rimu has always asked for exactly that kind of not only direct aid but even critical feedback, or see this post from a month ago: piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/… That's fairly open and transparent, it looks to me?
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Irelephant's OP criticism seems legit, yes. The comment replies on the other hand are chock full of misinformation - e.g. PieFed does not defederate from lemmy.ml right out of the box, nor is that nonexistent capability hard-coded into the software. I don't remember all the details but I do recall Irelephant pushing back against some of those incorrect replies.
PieFed needs help to get better, it's not perfect. The main dev Rimu has always asked for exactly that kind of not only direct aid but even critical feedback, or see this post from a month ago: piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/… That's fairly open and transparent, it looks to me?
We're here to answer any questions you have about PieFed's code
I have received word that there are people combing through the PieFed code looking for anything that might be harmful. This is excellent and can only make PieFed better and less harmful.
Plus they can still vote on your content, and send you DMs, which at first did not but the next version increased the rights of the so-called "blocked" users further to also include pinging you. Which is made all the worse by Lemmy not allowing you to stop notifications for any of your content. That "instance block" is so incorrectly misnamed as to be active disinformation, especially when it was promised to us beforehand as the ability to block instances with problematic users (i.e. hexbear and Lemmygrad), but then instead it merely lets users trolls you incessantly unless you move your account to an instance that dares to actually defederate from them (except virtually nobody does to lemmy.ml).
PieFed's set of features is so nice. Like you can set, or deselect, notifications on pretty much anything - get notifications for every single post by a community, or by a user account, or for a comment that is not yours, etc. I have never once regretted switching to PieFed!
Flairs are useful to organise content on the community. Wikias can be useful for communities. Feeds? This is a huge one people on Lemmy have been calling for a long time (planned for the 1.0 release). Keyword filtering too.
You see comrade, you're illegal because Stalin and Mao hate you. You're the bad working class because you have gender expression. To the education camp!
I have identified as a communist since I came out of the alt right pipeline. But I also learned that just because propaganda says one thing that the opposite is true. Having a nuanced view of how to world works isn't a "rhetorical slide". Just because the west is evil doesn't mean the east isn't.
I am for an armed revolution I just don't think installing a dictator at the end of it will help the people in a meaningful way long term. Putting a single person in charge will always lead to corruption eventually.
i've seen nothing but piefed users being smug jerks about piefed and treating lemmy users like they are unwashed plebes. myself included. i've used piefed and it's the same flavor of shit in a different layout.
i have not seen it go the other way around. most are going 'wtf is piefed and why are these people so weird'.
this is pretty much what i have seen too. along with a lecture about how my negative expereinces on lemmy will not exzist on piefed because the magic tools they say are supposed to stop all negative interactions.
despite the users and communities... being exactly the same. it's just a different interface for interacting with them.
piefed seems to be a lot of fart smokers who just want to feel they are part of the latest greatest thing and lemmy instances are 'old and uncool'.
1) If you believe in evil, your view isn't as nuanced as you think it is
2) The assumption that "tankies" (communists with an understanding of history, geopolitics and systems theory) are simply swapping one set of unthinking blanket loyalites for another out of some kind of contrarianism or intellectual laziness is itself an intellectually lazy assumption based in a lack of understanding. If I wanted to do that, I wouldn't have had to read so many damn books. The actual truth is that the "tankie" worldview is by far the most nuanced out of all the mainstream political tendencies. It is built on dialectical and historical materialism rather than a static idealist liberalism composed of floating signifiers. Rigorous analysis, critique and self-critique are built into it's foundations. To put it simply, the liberal and western leftist understanding of the world is a static, abstract diorama drenched in the residue of christianity while the tankie understanding is a scientific machine in constant motion. When western leftists who haven't yet examined their int
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Two points:
1) If you believe in evil, your view isn't as nuanced as you think it is
2) The assumption that "tankies" (communists with an understanding of history, geopolitics and systems theory) are simply swapping one set of unthinking blanket loyalites for another out of some kind of contrarianism or intellectual laziness is itself an intellectually lazy assumption based in a lack of understanding. If I wanted to do that, I wouldn't have had to read so many damn books. The actual truth is that the "tankie" worldview is by far the most nuanced out of all the mainstream political tendencies. It is built on dialectical and historical materialism rather than a static idealist liberalism composed of floating signifiers. Rigorous analysis, critique and self-critique are built into it's foundations. To put it simply, the liberal and western leftist understanding of the world is a static, abstract diorama drenched in the residue of christianity while the tankie understanding is a scientific machine in constant motion. When western leftists who haven't yet examined their internalized propaganda and chauvinism say things like "just because the west is evil doesn't mean the east isn't" and think they're addressing something the "tankie" actually believes, they are projecting their own lack of nuance onto the tankie.
I started this comment felling a lot more snarky, but have ended it feeling a lot more up to the task of explaining in good faith. I've been exactly where you are, I've been you. You have not yet been me.
Disclaimer: this is not a personal attack. I am critiquing the Western-Marxist movement as a whole, if you're not a part of it, if you don't attack actually existing socialism or discredit them un-dialectically, then it's not aimed at you, thank you.
Or you can substitute East to Global South. You know what I mean.
Platt och intetsägande om techimperialism i Tidningen Svärm. Det är mest floskler och plattityder i en artikel om techimperialismen som en person från Alt åt alla i Stockholms skrivit. Och det är fullt med felaktigheter. blog.zaramis.se/2026/02/01/pla…
Yes, Bessent was just bragging about this in Davos. These aren't international sanctions, they're not approved by the UN. These are unilateral sanctions by the Burger Reich and their vassals used as a form of siege warfare against Iran.
The UN doesn't have any particular claim to the word "international", except insofar as anything they do is international because the UN itself is international.
Other organisations, or even loosely affiliated groups of nations, can do international things because the word just means something like "between nations".
That's pure nonsense. There is only one version of international law and the UN is the only globally recognized organization to enforce it. These other organization are just unilateral tools of specific countries representing their interests. And sanctions such as the ones the west does against their adversaries are unilateral actions by these states.
i don't think they are arguing about international law, they are making an irrelevant and pedantic point about the meaning of the word international in general
Like many organizations, Wiki Education has grappled with generative AI, its impacts, opportunities, and threats, for several years. As an organization that runs large-scale programs to bring new e…
I en vetenskaplig artikel om fisket i Stockholms skärgård bekräftas väldigt mycket av det som vi redan vet om fisket i Östersjön samtidigt som det framkommer en del hel del mycket intressant. Exempelvis verkar det som om framväxten av ett fiske baserat på äganderätt till mark till stor del skedde under 1800-talet fiske.zaramis.se/2026/02/01/in…
Elon Musk's SpaceX has applied to launch one million satellites into Earth's orbit to power artificial intelligence (AI).
The application claims "orbital data centres" are the most cost and energy-efficient way to meet the growing demand for AI computing power.
Traditionally, such centres are large warehouses full of powerful computers that process and store data. Musk's aerospace firm claims processing needs due to the expanding use of AI are already outpacing "terrestrial capabilities".
It would increase the number of SpaceX satellites in orbit drastically. Its existing Starlink network of nearly 10,000 satellites has already been accused of creating congestion in space, which Musk denies.
Elon Musk's SpaceX has applied to launch one million satellites into Earth's orbit to power artificial intelligence (AI).
The application claims "orbital data centres" are the most cost and energy-efficient way to meet the growing demand for AI computing power.
Traditionally, such centres are large warehouses full of powerful computers that process and store data. Musk's aerospace firm claims processing needs due to the expanding use of AI are already outpacing "terrestrial capabilities".
It would increase the number of SpaceX satellites in orbit drastically. Its existing Starlink network of nearly 10,000 satellites has already been accused of creating congestion in space, which Musk denies.
Elon Musk's SpaceX has applied to launch one million satellites into Earth's orbit to power artificial intelligence (AI).
The application claims "orbital data centres" are the most cost and energy-efficient way to meet the growing demand for AI computing power.
Traditionally, such centres are large warehouses full of powerful computers that process and store data. Musk's aerospace firm claims processing needs due to the expanding use of AI are already outpacing "terrestrial capabilities".
It would increase the number of SpaceX satellites in orbit drastically. Its existing Starlink network of nearly 10,000 satellites has already been accused of creating congestion in space, which Musk denies.
Elon Musk's SpaceX applies to launch 1m satellites into orbit
Elon Musk's SpaceX has applied to launch one million satellites into Earth's orbit to power artificial intelligence (AI).
The application claims "orbital data centres" are the most cost and energy-efficient way to meet the growing demand for AI computing power.
Traditionally, such centres are large warehouses full of powerful computers that process and store data. Musk's aerospace firm claims processing needs due to the expanding use of AI are already outpacing "terrestrial capabilities".
It would increase the number of SpaceX satellites in orbit drastically. Its existing Starlink network of nearly 10,000 satellites has already been accused of creating congestion in space, which Musk denies.
This is such a dumb concept and likely exists entirely to wow investors. A single AI server with 8 GPUs produces something like 7000 watts of heat, if not more. And likewise, will require at least that much power. Sure, solar is "free" once you've got the panels in space. The real killer though is dissipating all that heat. Obviously, there's no atmosphere in space to transfer heat to. Your only option is purely IR radiation which is significantly less efficient. To put this in context, the ISS's heat dissipation system can dissipate about 14,000 watts. Ignoring all of the other infra that goes into a data-center, that would be two servers. You add all this up, the mass of the supporting infrastructure would far out-weigh the actual servers. And the economies of satellites and rocket launches comes down to mass.
I remember when download managers were invaluable. Leaving a download running overnight on trailer park internet, only to find in the morning that it had failed. Soul-crushing.
Fem personer har åtalats vid Luleå tingsrätt för grov ekonomisk brottslighet. Bland åtalspunkterna återfinns grov trolöshet mot huvudman, grova penningtvättsbrott, grovt tagande och givande av muta, medhjälp till grovt tagande av muta samt grova bokföringsbrott. blog.zaramis.se/2026/02/01/ata…
Project Genie evades all that and handles these building blocks itself, but remember that it doesn't actually build games, per se. When you ask it to make a clone of Super Mario 64, it will dupe it rather impressively, but all you get is basic movement with a free camera that can look around the map. There are no objectives, and the AI often forgets what it has already generated when filling in gaps.
Honest to shit the rate at which writing written as warning is turning into writing-as-instruction manual is really starting to fuck with my head right here:
I literally read this short story in… I think it was Asimov’s? Could’ve been Analog but I think it was Asimov’s. Circa 1992 or something. Don’t remember much of anything about it other than they were training an AI by shredding and destroying library after library and it was a huge deal.
That was it, though. That was the entire plot.
Kinda wish these fuckers would, idk, watch The Black Hole and ride a giant spaceship into an event horizon right about now, don’t you?
"an entire year of people being ILLEGALLY deported or disappeared" true, state violence against anyone is only okay when it's done legally, with due process and for the good of the national people's
Like I've said before, expecting empathy was just silly, these people and their ancestors have been empire-building forever and, if they express any moral values, don't think of them as anything but decorative disinfo cause what they really believe in is "might makes right"... There's always one here and there, the thinking dissidents with moral frameworks like miss Greta, Francesca Albanese and John Brown but not a plurality. Selfish fear? Now that we can trust, lol.
So if I'm the wrong skin color and have past relatives who didn't do anything that made a change, I can't participate in doing something now? If we could find a movement that had all the morality of the progressives while having the right's trait to let anyone join who agrees with the cause, we might have something that works. It seems to be a leftist thing to gatekeep anyone who tries to help.
I never get the "we were doing it first" toxicity. Why should it matter why the newcomers were ignorant if they want to join the cause? Why create new enemies just to protect your "pure" reasons? That kind of separationism is exactly what keeps the ones you should focus on in power, and they want it that way. A divided resistance will fail.
Because the majority of “leftists” are exclusively online and their entire lives revolve around internet points derived from having the best and purest ideologies
The PATRIOT Act was a fucking power grab, and obviously was in place in case a crisis came into play. No way something that couldn't be read in that short a time before approval was written that fast.
Its the cop-in-your-brain, which is of course all of the propaganda of the fascists. This is exactly what they want, and their choice rhetoric has worked its way into the leftist spaces to an extent
It really was muddled through while Iraq was being drummed up, too. I remember working a protest in 2003 and there being this talk about DHS implementing fascism. At the time I felt the impending war was more important topic, not quite realizing how interconnected it all was.
Maybe I'm just mostly in lefty circles, but who the fuck wasn't mad until Renee Goode and Alex Pretti? I've been seeing constant rage against ice for a couple of years now atleast.
No, you're right, plenty were mad before too. There seems to be a new push lately on trying to make this a race issue to divide the left. I've seen a major uptick in this framing lately.
The Sao Paulo Forum condemned the new measure imposed by the US administration against Cuba on Friday, January 30, calling it “absurd coercion.”
[...]
The measure responds to an executive order signed by the US president declaring a national emergency and establishing tariffs on goods from countries that sell or supply oil to Cuba.
This action represents an intensification of the blockade, which has lasted for more than six decades, and is part of Washington’s maximum pressure policy against the island, justified under false pretenses of US national security interests and foreign policy.
Faced with this scenario, the Sao Paulo Forum called on defenders of the sovereignty of nations to act immediately in defense of Cuba.
Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]
Unknown parent • • •Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]
Unknown parent • • •mintiefresh
in reply to bdonvr • • •TubularTittyFrog
in reply to mintiefresh • • •both user bases are full of a lot of nut jobs and people with extremist and crazy beliefs.
platforms don't change people. that's what nobody gets. fediverse is not going to 'solve' the problem of being people nutjobs seeking other nutjobs to compete over how 'true' their nutjob commitment is.
scintilla
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Unknown parent • • •irelephant [he/him]
in reply to bdonvr • • •Coelacanth
in reply to irelephant [he/him] • • •Blaze (he/him)
Unknown parent • • •Filtered word: nsfw
It probably comes down what you expect the average new joiner experience to be.
Piefed.zip (and lemmy.zip) for instance gives the choice to the user. A message from the main .zip admin from a few weeks ago
piefed.social/post/1649716/com…
I've seen first hand a vast majority of potential new joiners drop due the platform requiring too much configuration to be usable. I understand why some instance admin want to have "good defaults" so that new joiners would at least stay for a bit rather than saying "this whole thing is nonsense, I'll just stay on Reddit"
Discussing we need more users
piefed.socialbdonvr
Unknown parent • • •Not really, it was a post on .world by a shitjustworks user.
lemmy.world/post/42299745
bdonvr
Unknown parent • • •It's a software similar to Lemmy. It's fediverse too so really it all works together. You'll see Piefed users and posts just like any Lemmy user.
Same situation back when Kbin/Mbin was a thing.
bdonvr
Unknown parent • • •carl_marks_1312 [comrade/them]
in reply to scintilla • • •RobotToaster
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •The way .zip does it kinda seems ideal, having default block lists that can be disabled by users that want to once they are accustomed to the software. Is this a feature of piefed or something zip added?
But it also backs up one of my points, this rational system gets them labelled with "Defederation: Negligent" in the piefed onboarding flow. (Although I don't know how much that affects what order they appear in.)
Good defaults are good, as long as they are just defaults.
Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ
in reply to bdonvr • • •It must just be þat I mostly browse subscribe, but þis is þe first I've seem þis. I block þe most caustic sites, þough, so perhaps þat's þe reason.
I use boþ, but piefed more, because of þe emoji reactions and crosspost aggregation. Lemmy is ... conservative, let's say, about adding features.
Blaze (he/him)
in reply to Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ • • •godisidog [none/use name]
in reply to Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ • • •why?
Coelacanth
in reply to godisidog [none/use name] • • •Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
in reply to Coelacanth • • •fox [comrade/them]
in reply to Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ • • •Blaze (he/him)
in reply to RobotToaster • • •I'm not quite sure to be honest.
Hello @demigodrick@lemmy.zip, could you maybe provide some details?
Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ
Unknown parent • • •And, yet, when it came to implementing features, Lemmy ignored several, including my pet missing peeve, emoji reactions. A feature so valuable, Reddit monetizes it.
Piefed was missing it, too, but þe devs recognized þe gap and added it. I have more faiþ in piefed to improve þe UX over time.
Þat said, I don't see a vast gulf between Lemmy and piefed, and happily use boþ.
Demigodrick
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Blaze (he/him)
in reply to Demigodrick • • •Shatur
in reply to bdonvr • • •Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ
Unknown parent • • •Demigodrick
in reply to RobotToaster • • •I agree with you.
Piefed is great, but there is so much bias built into it. Say what you want about lemmy's devs, AFAIK there is none of their bias built in to lemmy.
The whole jump to piefed movement has not sat well with me. I get the extra features, but for it to really be something for everyone the dev has to consider their approach. Who knows what might be targetted next because the dev doesn't like it. (Hyperbole btw, but its akin to censorship)
Calling piefed.zip negligent because we give users control of their experience speaks volumes about either a poorly thought out system or a purposeful bias which shouldn't exist in federated services. At least add the csam or far right instances to it if its a genuine tool, or remove it entirely
Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]
in reply to scintilla • • •What is now happening to Marx’s theory has, in the course of history, happened repeatedly to the theories of revolutionary thinkers and leaders of oppressed classes fighting for emancipation. During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. Today, the bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the labor movement concur in this doctoring of Marxism. They omit, obscure, or distort the revolutionary side of this theory, its revolutionary soul. They push to the foreground and extol what is or seems acceptable to the bourgeoisie.
... show moreWhat is now happening to Marx’s theory has, in the course of history, happened repeatedly to the theories of revolutionary thinkers and leaders of oppressed classes fighting for emancipation. During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. Today, the bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the labor movement concur in this doctoring of Marxism. They omit, obscure, or distort the revolutionary side of this theory, its revolutionary soul. They push to the foreground and extol what is or seems acceptable to the bourgeoisie.
All the social-chauvinists are now “Marxists” (don’t laugh!).
Shatur
in reply to bdonvr • • •Skavau
in reply to Shatur • • •Shatur
in reply to Skavau • • •Is it possible to disable how user blocking works?
If you're talking about defederation, then no: it's an updated version of the comment that properly explains how it works. To be honest, I think the correct interpretation is even worse: lemmy.ml/post/42415919/2366476…
Skavau
in reply to Shatur • • •No more than an instance on Lemmy can make it so blocked a counts can't reply to someone who blocked them. That's just contradictory blocking philosophies at play.
The way that the defederation claim was originally made was that Piefed automatically blocks lemmy.ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad and automatically repopulates those instances as blocked if an instance owner wipes their defederation. This wasn't true. And lemmy.ml has never been on the autoblocklist.
Shatur
in reply to Skavau • • •In my opinion, this blocking philosophy is hurtful to the Fediverse. To me it feels like EEE from the PieFed devs who clearly dislike the Lemmy devs.
Yes, you're correct! And the message I linked no longer includes this disinformation.
Skavau
in reply to Shatur • • •Shatur
in reply to Skavau • • •No, this particular feature is not related to a dislike of the Lemmy devs. I just wanted to say that I don't like this feature.
But some of the features mentioned in the linked comment are related. Sorry if that wasn't clear, I'm not a native speaker.
Skavau
in reply to Shatur • • •irelephant [he/him]
in reply to Shatur • • •Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]
in reply to Shatur • • •Also featuring extra serving of drama slop
hexbear.net/post/7507322?scrol…
LemmySlopSkimmer [none/use name]
2026-01-30 19:28:51
Shatur
in reply to Alaskaball [comrade/them, any] • • •And on top of that looks like the guy who posted this meme: lemmy.ml/post/42415919
Got his account deleted on PieFed: lemmy.ml/post/42415919/2368740…
Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]
in reply to Shatur • • •Garbagio
in reply to Shatur • • •Zamboni_Driver
in reply to Garbagio • • •Garbagio
in reply to Zamboni_Driver • • •TubularTittyFrog
in reply to Garbagio • • •Shadow
in reply to Shatur • • •Shatur
in reply to Shadow • • •Shadow
in reply to Shatur • • •Shatur
Unknown parent • • •Flyberius [comrade/them]
in reply to scintilla • • •Flyberius [comrade/them]
in reply to bdonvr • • •AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
in reply to scintilla • • •ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
in reply to scintilla • • •It's been very funny to see the rhetorical slide in the last decade.
-Sure I'm a socialist but I'm not some communist
-Sure I'm a communist but I'm not some kind of tankie
The overton window will continue to shift as conditions deteriorate, reform continues to fail, and us "tankies" continue to be proven correct about everything. Enjoy the ride
pulsewidth
in reply to bdonvr • • •Me, who didn't even recognise the icon on the left:
Why is this blue clock guy so mean?
godisidog [none/use name]
in reply to scintilla • • •godisidog [none/use name]
Unknown parent • • •LemmySlopSkimmer [none/use name]
Unknown parent • • •☂️-
in reply to bdonvr • • •piefed exists becase the lemmy creators are leftist.
your standard anticommunism, nothing different to the norm really.
Sharkticon
in reply to ☂️- • • •Rikudou_Sage
in reply to ☂️- • • •ZombiFrancis
Unknown parent • • •That looks like two posts from one user.
The piefed dev also posts about tankies on MWoG.
piefed.social/c/meanwhileongra…
So I feel like there's bad faith enough to go around, (like with anything where 'tankie' comes up). The user posting on .ml there was just outright deleted off Piefed by the dev. There's clearly an ongoing thing with those right now.
Rimu
2026-01-31 03:57:23
Takapapatapaka
in reply to scintilla • • •scintilla
in reply to Takapapatapaka • • •I am said non tankie commie. Its so weird being told I'm a lib by them because I don't like any repressive regime.
Edit: I find it fascinating that I a trans woman am supposed to support multiple governments that have outright said I ethier don't exist or jailed people like me.
SpookyBogMonster
in reply to Flyberius [comrade/them] • • •On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, Piefed has a lot of anti-communist shit in its code.
It essentially exists because some libs were whining about supposed tankie censorship, and then made their own lemmy with ~~blackjack and hookers~~ censorship had coded into it.
Piefed literally has a social credit score for users. You can't make this shit up ¯_(ツ)_/¯
YiddishMcSquidish
in reply to bdonvr • • •TubularTittyFrog
in reply to YiddishMcSquidish • • •I just wnat to complain about lemmy users and stop having 20 piefed bros lecture me how how if i go to piefed everything will be rainbows and sunshine and my farts will smell like cotton candy.
everyone is weirdly insufferable about their little tribe being the best because they use it. might as well be lecturing people about what brand of milk to drink.
YiddishMcSquidish
in reply to TubularTittyFrog • • •Grandwolf319
in reply to bdonvr • • •Why would one go to pie fed if their main concern was moving away from big tech?
I get that the devs aren’t popular but it’s fully open source isn’t it?
Skavau
in reply to Grandwolf319 • • •OpenStars
in reply to Grandwolf319 • • •PieFed is FOSS. It runs in a docker container with fewer resources than Lemmy so you could self-host your own instance if you wanted - see e.g. jeena.net/lemmy-switch-to-pief… for one person's irl story attempting to do both.
Other alternatives, besides Lemmy, are Kbin, now forked into Mbin, nodeBB, and flarum at least announced that it would but I am not so sure it will follow through. And that's just the Threadiverse: there's still so much in the wider Fediverse as well, like besides Mastodon there's Pixelfed, and Friendica, Loops is coming up, etc.
You don't ever have to go back to big tech again.
Unless you want content, since we don't have endless varieties like them. This is the price we who stay here pay.
Lemmy and my Switch to PieFed; Threadyverse software alternatives
jeena.netGrandwolf319
in reply to OpenStars • • •Flyberius [comrade/them]
in reply to SpookyBogMonster • • •ModCen
in reply to LemmySlopSkimmer [none/use name] • • •It's easy to make allegations like that but you haven't provided any evidence so far
Also maybe the reason why some people aren't such big fans of Hexbear/Lemmygrad is because they justify and endorse imperialism, invasions, and murdering, as long as it's non-western countries doing those things.
Ofiuco
Unknown parent • • •Contrary to lemmy where blocking instances at user level doesn't block the users and you still see their posts if they crosspost to another instance that federates with them.
LemmySlopSkimmer [none/use name]
in reply to ModCen • • •ask @hamid@crazypeople.online about how healthy sunshine is for the fediverse
Ofiuco
Unknown parent • • •But nobody seems to want to fork the software for some reason.
Optional
Unknown parent • • •Emotional_Series7814
in reply to bdonvr • • •ModCen
in reply to LemmySlopSkimmer [none/use name] • • •Sharkticon
Unknown parent • • •OpenStars
Unknown parent • • •Sorry I don't understand what you mean here, but in the worst case sharing links has never worked well across the Threadiverse - depending on how you mean that, as in if it is on a different instance than what they are on it will take them instead to that other place where they have no account and so cannot vote or comment - while in the best case PieFed has solved this long-standing issue by auto-translating links to be on the same instance as the sender. I do not know how that work for the recipient - I don't think that it would, or could go back to the above scenario.
Anyway this is not unique to PieFed, as I thought PieFed was at least no worse than Lemmy in this regard and ever so slightly more functional - at least I've been ecstatically happy (yes I'm odd:-P) with this new capability it offers, as I've been waiting for it since the Rexodus and it is finally here!!!
toynbee
in reply to OpenStars • • •The links were functional, but odd looking. The recipients didn't like seeing characters that don't usually show up in links and considered the links suspicious as a result, sometimes not clicking them.
Not exactly a flaw with the tech, but also a reasonable precaution by the recipients. I'm flattered that you assume my friends are on the fediverse but most of them aren't so trying to explain instances and such to them wouldn't go smoothly.
OpenStars
in reply to RobotToaster • • •Irelephant's OP criticism seems legit, yes. The comment replies on the other hand are chock full of misinformation - e.g. PieFed does not defederate from lemmy.ml right out of the box, nor is that nonexistent capability hard-coded into the software. I don't remember all the details but I do recall Irelephant pushing back against some of those incorrect replies.
PieFed needs help to get better, it's not perfect. The main dev Rimu has always asked for exactly that kind of not only direct aid but even critical feedback, or see this post from a month ago: piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/… That's fairly open and transparent, it looks to me?
Irelephant's OP criticism seems legit, yes. The comment replies on the other hand are chock full of misinformation - e.g. PieFed does not defederate from lemmy.ml right out of the box, nor is that nonexistent capability hard-coded into the software. I don't remember all the details but I do recall Irelephant pushing back against some of those incorrect replies.
PieFed needs help to get better, it's not perfect. The main dev Rimu has always asked for exactly that kind of not only direct aid but even critical feedback, or see this post from a month ago: piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/… That's fairly open and transparent, it looks to me?
Rimu
2026-01-14 02:14:57
Zen_Shinobi
in reply to Optional • • •OpenStars
in reply to Ofiuco • • •Plus they can still vote on your content, and send you DMs, which at first did not but the next version increased the rights of the so-called "blocked" users further to also include pinging you. Which is made all the worse by Lemmy not allowing you to stop notifications for any of your content. That "instance block" is so incorrectly misnamed as to be active disinformation, especially when it was promised to us beforehand as the ability to block instances with problematic users (i.e. hexbear and Lemmygrad), but then instead it merely lets users trolls you incessantly unless you move your account to an instance that dares to actually defederate from them (except virtually nobody does to lemmy.ml).
PieFed's set of features is so nice. Like you can set, or deselect, notifications on pretty much anything - get notifications for every single post by a community, or by a user account, or for a comment that is not yours, etc. I have never once regretted switching to PieFed!
Skavau
in reply to Sharkticon • • •Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
in reply to ModCen • • •Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
in reply to Takapapatapaka • • •Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
in reply to scintilla • • •scintilla
in reply to ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them] • • •scintilla
in reply to Alaskaball [comrade/them, any] • • •Lena
Unknown parent • • •TubularTittyFrog
Unknown parent • • •Ada
in reply to bdonvr • • •That's an ironic comment, given how loaded the image you've included is...
TubularTittyFrog
Unknown parent • • •i've seen nothing but piefed users being smug jerks about piefed and treating lemmy users like they are unwashed plebes. myself included. i've used piefed and it's the same flavor of shit in a different layout.
i have not seen it go the other way around. most are going 'wtf is piefed and why are these people so weird'.
SexUnderSocialism [she/her]
Unknown parent • • •TubularTittyFrog
Unknown parent • • •this is pretty much what i have seen too. along with a lecture about how my negative expereinces on lemmy will not exzist on piefed because the magic tools they say are supposed to stop all negative interactions.
despite the users and communities... being exactly the same. it's just a different interface for interacting with them.
piefed seems to be a lot of fart smokers who just want to feel they are part of the latest greatest thing and lemmy instances are 'old and uncool'.
TubularTittyFrog
Unknown parent • • •ModCen
in reply to Lena • • •Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]
in reply to scintilla • • •Who runs the CPC
news.cgtn.comShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
in reply to scintilla • • •Two points:
1) If you believe in evil, your view isn't as nuanced as you think it is
2) The assumption that "tankies" (communists with an understanding of history, geopolitics and systems theory) are simply swapping one set of unthinking blanket loyalites for another out of some kind of contrarianism or intellectual laziness is itself an intellectually lazy assumption based in a lack of understanding. If I wanted to do that, I wouldn't have had to read so many damn books. The actual truth is that the "tankie" worldview is by far the most nuanced out of all the mainstream political tendencies. It is built on dialectical and historical materialism rather than a static idealist liberalism composed of floating signifiers. Rigorous analysis, critique and self-critique are built into it's foundations. To put it simply, the liberal and western leftist understanding of the world is a static, abstract diorama drenched in the residue of christianity while the tankie understanding is a scientific machine in constant motion. When western leftists who haven't yet examined their int
... show moreTwo points:
1) If you believe in evil, your view isn't as nuanced as you think it is
2) The assumption that "tankies" (communists with an understanding of history, geopolitics and systems theory) are simply swapping one set of unthinking blanket loyalites for another out of some kind of contrarianism or intellectual laziness is itself an intellectually lazy assumption based in a lack of understanding. If I wanted to do that, I wouldn't have had to read so many damn books. The actual truth is that the "tankie" worldview is by far the most nuanced out of all the mainstream political tendencies. It is built on dialectical and historical materialism rather than a static idealist liberalism composed of floating signifiers. Rigorous analysis, critique and self-critique are built into it's foundations. To put it simply, the liberal and western leftist understanding of the world is a static, abstract diorama drenched in the residue of christianity while the tankie understanding is a scientific machine in constant motion. When western leftists who haven't yet examined their internalized propaganda and chauvinism say things like "just because the west is evil doesn't mean the east isn't" and think they're addressing something the "tankie" actually believes, they are projecting their own lack of nuance onto the tankie.
I started this comment felling a lot more snarky, but have ended it feeling a lot more up to the task of explaining in good faith. I've been exactly where you are, I've been you. You have not yet been me.