Finland's Ministry of Justice is considering halting its plans to start using US-hosted cloud services
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I’ve seen too many conversations go like this:
PieFan: “Piefed is better.”
“How is it better?”
PieFan: “It’s growing much faster than Lemmy.”
“So it’s bigger than Lemmy?”
PieFan: “No, but it will be soon.”
“So Lemmy has more people.”
PieFan: “Piefed has better features and looks better.”
“What are the better features?”
PieFan: “They’ll be integrated soon.”
“How does it look better?”
PieFan: “Well, if you’re using an app it looks the same. And if you’re using the desktop website it looks the same.”
“So it’s better on mobile?”
PieFan: “it will be soon.”
“So if Piefed is roughly the same as Lemmy and is federated with Lemmy, I can just stay on Lemmy and keep my posts, comments, and history while still accessing everything on Piefed.”
PieFan: “I hate Lemmy admins!”
I respect your personal opinions, and even agree with some of the grievances you may have, but for people who are already established on a Lemmy instance there is no practical reason to leave it for Piefed. It’s a preference, same as choosing a Lemmy instance.
Edit: People are already taking this personally. I have no skin in this game, but I see these exchanges all the time and it’s frustrating to watch in-fighting between platforms that are connected to each other by design in the first place.
Just one detail: Piefed already reads Lemmy instances, so it being less-used doesn't matter.
And Piefed already has a ton of tools that Lemmy doesn't have, so no-one is replying "they'll be integrated soon" yet. They already exist.
Note: not saying this to convince you of anything. Just noting some details.
A wiki would be nice. That’s one feature of Reddit I actually miss.
The only thing Lemmy leaves me wanting for right now is the ability to filter languages and a user page/feed so I can post publicly visible notes and links without putting them on some other community.
A wiki would be nice
Features - PieFed
Nice things about PieFed: There are two other options for reddit-style federated forums, Lemmy and Kbin (recently forked to Mbin, which shows some promise). Having used them both extensively I came away unsatisfied, for a variety of reasons.PieFed
Some apps don’t support all of these yet.
Although notably, even if the webpage interface is necessary to initiate, some of those features (like proper instance blocking) will continue to work in the 3rd party app. Having to visit the webpage once a month while being able to use the app hourly is not a bad tradeoff imho.
PieFan: “Piefed has better features and looks better.”
The thing for me is that.... piefed.social webUI looks like ass. It's the victim of "we have to look different so everyone knows we're different!" - many, many years and people who study UX to arrive at the common interface standards we see on all "clone" sites - where the vote numbers are, where the vote arrows lie, how the images work to open dynamically, etc.
The Lemmy webUI is just better UX engineering and layout which conforms to mental norms which were invented by Digg, Slashdot, Reddit, even Freshmeat back in the day or HowardForums of old. Piefed reeks of the "not invented here" syndrome of having to eschew norms to try and prove some point about "not being Lemmy" for political reasons. As a user, the visual layout and operation of the Lemmy webUI is what I want and expect to be using.
All that said, I'm a die hard F/OSS person and all competition is good, it drives innovation and progress. Best wishes to Piefed on their journey.
They each are good in different ways. Lemmy's search is superb - far better than Reddit's or especially PieFed's. Though PieFed has solved the community discovery and onboarding issues for new users.
Imho PieFed seems unquestionably better for a new user, whereas Lemmy is typically more suited for an established user of the Threadiverse, unless they want one of the new features that only PieFed offers (i.e., most people don't need to move, especially if they use a mobile app).
Many people (especially in Europe) do not like tankies, particularly the pro-genocide apologetics and heavily pro-authoritarian stance, but that is a separate issue than the FOSS software.
Many people are extremely frustrated with the slowness with which features come to Lemmy - it hurts to be promised something for years and years and have it just never come, more so than if the promise had never been there to begin with.
But I don't recall anyone ever saying that Lemmy should die? Criticism is not the same as hate. The latter is like Linux vs. Windows, while the former is like one Linux distro vs. another. We truly can all get along, each enjoying our own favorites.
Except Hexbears and Lemmygrads, who can't stop themselves from trolling, but even that is somewhat helpful to the Threadiverse in a short term sense to keep it contained there? (While also harmful in the long run to train inside that echo chamber, subsequently making interactions worse outside of it.)
I have, however, heard Lemmings say that PieFed should die as in no longer exist. Somehow the "we should all get along" only ever seems to be applied in a single direction when said by certain people. Btw, you should all move from wherever you are at to Russian, China, North Korea, or the USA - that is the only way that we can ever truly be "at peace"! (/s) But don't worry, if you refuse to move, one of those will come all the way over to you! (I wish I could add /s on this one, especially for the sake of Ukraine, Hong Kong, South Korea, Greenland, etc.) Side note: authoritarians would like it very much if you would simply take their words at face value without considering any context at all.
Somehow the "we should all get along" only ever seems to be applied in a single direction when said by certain people. Btw, you should all move from wherever you are at to Russian, China, North Korea, or the USA - that is the only way that we can ever truly be "at peace"! (/s) But don't worry, if you refuse to move, one of those will come all the way over to you!
As I said in a comment:
There also is a rising anti-piefed sentiment too that seems to have risen up in the past week. I think it's mostly reactionary to [see post].
I saw these and it seems like a pretty new thing.
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