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Two pairs of ants set off from the same starting point, walking side-by-side. One pair takes the red path, the other pair takes the blue path.

The red and blue paths are geodesics (the straightest possible paths, like great circles on a sphere), and each ant in a pair follows a geodesic that lies a small distance to either side of the marked one, initially pointing in the same direction.

If this ellipsoid has semi-axes of length 1 and 3, the ants taking the blue path will bump into each other at the “pole”, where all meridians converge, after travelling a distance of 3.34122.

How far will the ants following the red path travel before they bump into each other? More, less, the same?

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That's what I guessed after approximating the ellipsoid by a capsule, i.e. a cylinder capped by hemispheres.
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That sure seems intuitively wrong just looking at the illustration
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@slashdottir My intuition didn't immediately figure out what to do with "each ant in a pair follows a geodesic that lies a small distance to either side of the marked one, initially pointing in the same direction." (and in fact the illustration only shows one path per pair, I guess because figuring out where the other one lies is basically what the problem is about). @gregeganSF
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@soaproot @slashdottir I could use an explanatory illustration of the other paths then because I think I must've totally misunderstood the problem statement
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For the blue path, which is a meridian, the ants that walk side-by-side and “follow the blue path” just walk along two meridians with longitudes that are a tiny bit west, and a tiny bit east, of the one that is drawn. All three meridians meet at the pole, so the ants bump into each other at the pole.

For the red path, again the ants walk side-by-side, each of them a very small distance on either side of the red path (i.e. one of them very slightly north of the equator, the other one very slightly south of the equator). But circles of latitude are not geodesics, so their latitudes do not stay constant.

I did not draw the individual paths for the ants because they're meant to be an “infinitesimal" distance on either side of the paths that are drawn.

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@soaproot @slashdottir hmm. If the red paths are so close to the red circle (which is of radius 1, right?) as to be indistinguishable, I don't understand how the path length is so different from the (half? since the paths meet at ascending and descending nodes?) circumference of the unit circle. Except that that must be the point of the exercise, but if it's so visually similar...hm.

Sorry for being the thick student but I get concerned when I don't understand ellipses

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@ChateauErin @soaproot @slashdottir

On a sphere of radius 1 the ants following the red path would meet after they have gone 90 degrees around the equator, so one quarter of the circumference. If you extended their tracks into complete great circles, the distance between their two crossing points would be half the circumference.

On the ellipsoid, their paths still stay very close to the equator (the absolute value of their latitude is a maximum when they start, and I have said that is very small). But being close to the same circle, on a very different surface, doesn't mean they should meet up after a similar distance.

For example, if the red circle was on a cylinder, the ants would never bump into each other.

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@soaproot @slashdottir ohhhh. I somehow hadn't understood they were starting at the latitude extrema, but I see now why that's the case. hm.

I may need some kind of animation to understand the path the ants are taking and why they're not meeting where I expect / where the geodesics intersect. But obvs not your job to provide it

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These are the paths of the individual ants, from the starting point until they bump into each other.


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