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Lemmy wouldn't really takeoff to replace Reddit until it's content is search indexable
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/19004972
Let’s be honest, the real reason Lemmy build most of its traffic is because of Reddit users. But the thing is, outside of the mass exodus in the west that too from the PC era.. people discover and join Reddit not because it’s another social media like Facebook or Twitter that people need to reserve their usernames on like a brand or celebrity but because Google Search is kinda… actually absolute trash by SEO and machine learning crawlers.
Most of the world (I am from India btw, hello~) join or even discover reddit because they’re trying to search for actual solutions, recommendations, advice or even reviews by actual experienced people without having to go through another YouTuber which can stem from troubleshooting a router, finding an actual FOSS option or seeking immediate solutions to the recent CrowdStrike fiasco for example. After having to visit reddit every time whenever using a search engine including for education to career advice, I ended up directly signing up with reddit a decade ago.
Recently, Reddit even restricted its search results to Google only in a business partnership meaning those using Bing, DuckDuckGo to Ecosia or even SearchGPT wouldn’t be able to access Reddit answers anymore. Say, if someone searches for how to block ads on chrome as example - Solutions like uBlock Origin come into existence and continue to exist because of the combined community in Reddit that Lemmy is trying to preserve.
Unlike others, am not saying Lemmy would be dead but it would be pretty much like Discord-Telegram or Tumblr instead of wiping Reddit or correcting Facebook. Reddit is not something you discover from word-of-mouth or join from peer pressure unlike other social media which is even truer for Lemmy but because it actually helps and is useful to people.
Lemmy can’t be taking the path of 𝕏 (Alone Mask’s Twitter) but any of the good platforms were before the Enshittification with Facebook’s way~
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Rich Homie Quan, a hitmaker who helped rap evolve, dies at 34
The Atlanta hip-hop star Rich Homie Quan rose to fame nationally in 2013 with his first hit single “Type of Way” and had a short but intense burst of success. He died Thursday.
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RustDesk: I Found This Open-Source TeamViewer Alternative Impressive!
Please have a look at the warnings in the comments:
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RustDesk: I Found This Open-Source TeamViewer Alternative Impressive!
RustDesk is a fantastic secure remote desktop tool. Let's take it for a spin!Sourav Rudra (It's FOSS News)
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Yeah it's pretty awesome. My only gripe with it is the fact that it is super annoying when you want to send a client with your self-hosted urls to a customer.
You can either awkardly add it to the filename or you need to fork the client and build it yourself. Kind of sucks that the easier custom client function is stuck behind their subscription.
It freaked him out how easily I could get on and control his PC. I was impressed by the whole experience.
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The server is used for hole punching, to open up a P2P connection thorugh NATs and Firewalls. If it doesn't work the server also relays the traffic between the clients.
Getting an end to end connection through todays internet is unfortunately not easy for an average user.
Rustdesk looks good on the outside, but if you look inside, it has a really bad codebase and has done some sketchy stuff in the past.
Last year, it installed custom root certificates as trusted on windows, which is a huge security risk: github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/d…
On linux systems, it forced its own autostart with no option to disable this behavior: github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/i…
In the past, when it didn’t have Wayland support yet, it edited your GDM config and just disabled wayland: github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/b…
Furthermore, the code quality is really bad. 90% of the linux platform-dependant code is just executing shell commands and parsing their output, while the same could be achieved in a safe way with proper rust builtins: github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/b…
While I agree that Rustdesk works pretty flawlessly, the codebase and the behavior of the developers made me distrust the software and I don’t recommend using it.
@petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de you might want to add that warning to the post.
They also tried to submit the app to Flathub, but had way too broad permissions with no explanation why. "Users expect filesystem access" etc. In the end it was rejected and they publish a .flatpak file themselves.
github.com/flathub/flathub/pul…
The other points are far worse though.
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Rustdesk controversy
The whole discussion on that pull request is extremely sketchy, IMO.
Okayyyy… thats not great. I just read one of the threads and thats scary.
The person(s?) maintaining this seems to be VERY BAD at communicating. They did fix the auto start problem but did not at all discuss this from what I see. Thats not great.
To add on:
- There is no transparency about who is behind it. It just a Github account called "Rustdesk." It could be a real company in Singapore or it could be some guy in China as people have speculated.
- The Rustdesk software needs way more permissions than necessary. This became evident with the flatpak as they did sandbox escapes which prevented them from being on flathub
- The Rustdesk distribution is entirely centralize release server run by Rustdesk. They could easily push out malware to lots of devices.
- They have done some sketchy things in the past. One of the things they did was quietly switch Linux desktops back to X11.
- The Rustdesk system is not terribly resistant to brute forcing. The weak password means they someone could try every combination.
- Rustdesk docker deployment docker compose exposes all ports on the host. This is minor but it could lead to a sandbox excape.
- Rustdesk servers keep getting hosted in countries that have freedom problems such as China and Russia.
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could be some guy in China
I don't see how that's a problem, it's not like it's by a Chinese run company or like the Chinese government is spying on you; in the case you described it'd just be a rando with a hobby/vision.
The fact that it keeps getting hosted in countries that have freedom problems, such as China and Russia, does concern me, though.
How do they make that illegal?
I can't find much on tech impeding laws online, whatever search terms I enter related to China and privacy just leads me to articles about their data protection law.
(edit: and their 2017 cybersecurity law)
Really sad about this, because Rust Desk has been the absolute best remote access tool I've ever used in the IT world, and that includes many different professional tools like Ninja& Teamviewer.
It's so clean, easy to install and run, fast and low latency, handles multi-monitors great, runs on mobile, Linux, Windows, etc.
Such a shame that it is mired in controversy.
Wth is that, that is the most anti-idiomatic code I have ever seen
github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/b…
pub fn get_cursor() -> ResultType<Option<u64>> {
let mut res = None;
DISPLAY.with(|conn| {
if let Ok(d) = conn.try_borrow_mut() {
if !d.is_null() {
unsafe {
let img = XFixesGetCursorImage(*d);
if !img.is_null() {
res = Some((*img).cursor_serial as u64);
XFree(img as _);
}
}
}
}
});
Ok(res)
}I'm not an expert but this seems wrong.
And sadly MeshCentral is pretty much death development wise, isn't it? The main dev left Intel and now has not enough time for the project, wasn't that the story?
Edit: it seems to be developed again, much slower,though. But better than nothing.
I must actually revoke my statement,it seems like it is now being revived and is developed again, at a much slower pace,though.
But much better than nothing and at least security updates seem to be working.
Sorry for the misinformation, my bad, the different sources are quite misleading sometimes.
Have you tried changing the default view from Columns to List? IMO it makes the UI much better. Then you can add in a more details about each PC on the main view. Make is very useful if you have a lot of computers you are managing.
You can also switch from the left bar interface to top bar interface. That looks better to me. Also dark mode.
It's older than ChatGPT, but maybe this is true for their newer articles.
I also feel HowToGeek used to be great, now it's just affiliations and misinformation. Shame.
DO NOT USE THIS
This is a massive security risk and they have had so much controversy. They also routinely delete Github issues and discussions that question them. To top it off they are likely Chinese run.
China bans encryption
Most confidently wrong statement I have read all year.
As an american, the amount of people who refuse to accept that American Propaganda exists is staggering. I had an immediate reaction to seeing "China is good though" and I have no way of knowing if it's justified because I've been my told my entire life that China is an evil shithole by American propaganda.
To take it a step further and say "America doesn't have your best interest at heart" is deeply unsettling to the vast majority of Americans who blindly hand away their freedoms in the name of Freedom. Wait until people find out that our country is just like all the ones we're taught to hate
Of course China uses encryption. So an obtuse, direct reading of that statement allows you, correctly, to say the commenter is wrong.
But what the commenter probably meant was “China bans the use of encryption that prevents the Chinese state from reading what is being exchanged” and that is confidently right. I’ve operated teams in China where we had a secret category 1 incident when it was discovered a couple of our devs had set up a VPN between a Chinese and a western service that didn’t go through the official Chinese-state controlled VPN services.
They absolutely do not want data they cannot read.
lol. I AM the source. DM me with your LinkedIn handle, I’ll connect with you to validate my identity and you can tell anybody else watching that the story is legit. I don’t want to spill too many details in public as I don’t want to involve my old company in it.
And in terms of “state controlled VPN” services, it’s not that the Chinese state runs honeypot VPNs for companies (though they most definitely do for their own citizens), but that to have a license to operate a cloud service in China, you have to enforce CSL and that means they get private companies, western too, to do their bidding. If you encrypt data, you’ll get a stern call (as we did).
Maybe meshcentral?
It depends on what you are trying to do. You also could do something like Tailscale + TightVNC
Completely disagree. Meshcentral is amazing. I use it almost everyday. Sure it has some querks, and I am not a fan of the default layout but that is an easy change.
It is certainly not discontinued.
Yes Ylian (the developer) was laid off from Intel and later started working at Microsoft. But the project is still alive and well. (He owns the domain so he was able to keep the website alive. Another user (Si458) Has taken up alot of the development (30 commits this month ) and Ylian has also continued development although much less now he has a day job. (1 Commit this month)
The only thing that got discontinued was the publicly hosted server of MC. That was costing to much and it required to much maintenance now this became a side project. So you will need to self host it now.
You can download everything here.
meshcentral.com/downloads.html
~~But to your point meshcentral.com (That is linked in the Github page give me a certificate error. Guess they need to fix that lol) But meshcentral.com (without the www) works.~~
Github page has been fixed!
Yay everything is back
I wanted it to control the computers via Intel amt, but the official tools sucked. Went to download and they were removed: of course he had to be fired after multiple decades to make the shareholders happy
From that day i am boycotting Intel, you have customers that paid a premium for fucking Intel vpro and then you fire the guy who in his free time made an invaluable tool that increased your corporate sales???
What?
Rust doesn't solve all security issues in codebase?
People should take note of that; I surely did...
I was hesitant to open this post because I already know about rustdesk, but eventually I did to see the community's opinion on it. I'm so glad that I did because this is terrible!
I think more people should hear about all of this
I spent like 20 minutes self hosting and running over tailscale so traffic is always private... Never had an issue. I've got over 20 devices accessible on it.
Easy to remote register over ssh just by sending the installer plus running with server name plus key, then setting a static password.
I still think gaming wide moonlight is great though. You won't really regret that.
This is a smart move on the part of DarkSky International. It is increasingly clear that the way to achieve anything like a peaceful coexistence between astronomers and the commercial space industry is to invest in technology development. The D&QS Act would fund such work in part and make brightness/radio mitigations accessible to more companies planning to launch in coming years.
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Long covid death:
"Sergio Mendes, the Brazilian-born pianist, composer and arranger who brought bossa nova music to a global audience in the 1960s," had died.
"His family said in a statement that his death, in a hospital, was caused by long Covid."
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TAKE THE WIN !!
that has NEVER happened, the past Vice President of USA endorses the OPPOSITE PARTY's nominee. Dick Cheney shits on Trump, and votes for Kamala Harris
He's a war criminal and climate destroying Darth Vader but we say, this vote is GREAT
Who is the NEXT Republican?
Do we get W?
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Die4Ever
Unknown parent • • •There's no objection here https://www.google.com/search?q=Lemmy+wouldn’t+really+takeoff+to+replace+Reddit+until+it’s+content+is+search+indexable
An example fix from over a year ago github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/i…
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in reply to gnu • • •Exactly and for the same reason Lemmy won't become as big as it has the potential to become. "Join Lemmy!" "How?" "Go to one of hundreds of websites and join and you'll have access to the Lemmy content the admin decided you could have access to... Oh and people logging in from those other sites might not have access to the content on your site so you might not be able to interact with a big chunk of users unless it's on a website that is connected to both your site and the site your site isn't connected to so choose the site you create your account on wisely! Makes sense?"
Also, even if you find results through searching, it sucks that it probably brings you to an instance that isn't yours so you have to figure out a way to open the link from your own instance in order to post in the discussion... That is, if you actually can from the instance you're signing in from!
threelonmusketeers
in reply to Kecessa • • •Lemmy Universal Link Switcher
This is a pretty much a solved problem, the solution just needs to be promoted more, perhaps even on the join-lemmy page.
Kecessa
in reply to threelonmusketeers • • •themusicman
Unknown parent • • •badbrainstorm
Unknown parent • • •Do any of the apps do better with search?
Die4Ever
in reply to themusicman • • •something on your end? my top result is from lemmy.world
maybe try opening the link in Private Mode or Incognito
Die4Ever
in reply to badbrainstorm • • •I_Miss_Daniel
in reply to Avieshek • • •dis_honestfamiliar
in reply to I_Miss_Daniel • • •MarkalAlvarez
in reply to I_Miss_Daniel • • •It’s not really about the name, people are just too lazy to switch app and they don’t care about the greedy Reddit’s CEO trying to make money in every possible way. Last thing I read about him was his idea to put some subreddits behind a paywall.
I was still using the Reddit app but with some tweaks installed on iOS to block ads, otherwise every app that it’s full of ads it’s just unusable.
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in reply to MarkalAlvarez • • •Boost and Sync are available here as well
Lvxferre
in reply to I_Miss_Daniel • • •Even taking only English speakers into account, it isn't a bad name. It's a simple word, it sounds like "let me" (good association - unlike... GIMP), at most it might evoke you Lemmings.
And once considering other languages it's actually better than plenty brands out there, including Reddit, Facebook or Twitter. By sticking to CV syllables there's less room to butcher it into unrecognisability.
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Unknown parent • • •That's good, I didn't know about that. Although the problem does still seem to exist with
different software
and different frontends
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in reply to Avieshek • • •There are MANY reasons that Lemmy won't replace Reddit.....the list is almost endless, with each individual reason not being a hurdle on its own that can't be solved. However the combined number of problems is just mind blowing.
There is one chief problem that sums up all the little problems quite nicely. It's the Fediverse culture. It's somehow a platform that is designed to be open and free, but because of the userbase comes off as a walled garden. If you're not a programmer, or a linux user, or have techie interests, it's not the platform for you. And in order to even be comparible to reddit, it has to be a platform for everyone.
As it stands though, Lfmmy is a disjointed, unorganized mess that if you aren't part of their clique, you're not welcome. If you say anything bad about linux, or star trek, or github, you get downvoted to hell. Ask me how I know.
Oh, and for the record, linux is ALSO a confusing hot mess for the average person. But until linux developers accept this, and make a linux distro that is as easy to understand as windows, it's userbase will
... show moreThere are MANY reasons that Lemmy won't replace Reddit.....the list is almost endless, with each individual reason not being a hurdle on its own that can't be solved. However the combined number of problems is just mind blowing.
There is one chief problem that sums up all the little problems quite nicely. It's the Fediverse culture. It's somehow a platform that is designed to be open and free, but because of the userbase comes off as a walled garden. If you're not a programmer, or a linux user, or have techie interests, it's not the platform for you. And in order to even be comparible to reddit, it has to be a platform for everyone.
As it stands though, Lfmmy is a disjointed, unorganized mess that if you aren't part of their clique, you're not welcome. If you say anything bad about linux, or star trek, or github, you get downvoted to hell. Ask me how I know.
Oh, and for the record, linux is ALSO a confusing hot mess for the average person. But until linux developers accept this, and make a linux distro that is as easy to understand as windows, it's userbase will remain something akin to a rounding error for windows userbase numbers. And I'm saying that as someone who's remaining on Windows 7, because everything since has been hot garbage.
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in reply to Cloudless ☼ • • •Cloudless ☼
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •No. My post got 40% down votes. One particular user insisted that I was using Samsung flaws as an excuse to like the iPhone. That I should admit that I just wanted an iPhone and my criticism towards Android were invalid.
I felt like talking to cultists. But I don't think mods needed to involve. Lemmy is what it is.
Blaze (he/him)
in reply to Cloudless ☼ • • •Sad to hear.
I think they should to an extend, especially if the topic is Apple, being Apple to like Apple products seems like an evidence.
threelonmusketeers
in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Die4Ever
in reply to threelonmusketeers • • •That's a cool idea. There have been somewhat related discussions, but I can't find any exactly like that. Maybe you should file an issue on GitHub for them?
github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issu…
github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issu…
lambalicious
in reply to threelonmusketeers • • •Lvxferre
in reply to Cloudless ☼ • • •I've seen your post. Ouch - you stumbled upon some nasty circlejerking there. On multiple levels.
Plenty people here expect you to treat their "vision" as above everything else. Including your agency ("free will"), issues that you might want to solve, etc. That makes them unable to tell the difference between "criticising Apple" (a fair thing to do) versus "treating someone who bought an iPhone as an emissary of Satan" (what they're doing against you).
To make things worse plenty muppets there are putting words in your mouth, regarding Samsung vs. Apple.
If it's any consolation, it isn't just Lemmy. The whole internet of the 20s feels like this nowadays.
TL;DR: I know that feel, bro.
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in reply to Lost_My_Mind • • •If not simply moderated out of the community because 'fostering dialogue is an important goal'.
Blaze (he/him)
in reply to Lost_My_Mind • • •There is a group of people who created a community here because their sub got banned. They cannot be more far from linux or tech, still they do well, their community is active and they are able to discuss.
Sometimes I feel like the complexity of Lemmy is exaggerated. People ask you about it, "go to Lemm.ee, use it the same way as Reddit. And as Reddit, don't hesitate to block political communities"
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in reply to Lost_My_Mind • • •People said the exact same thing about reddit being only good for technology enthusiasts and porn in the early days.
In my experience that is just how it goes on the internet. Nerds, furries, and porn collectors, are the early adopters for most places. The normies follow along years later.
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in reply to Lost_My_Mind • • •I'm smoking weed about it.
lambalicious
in reply to Lost_My_Mind • • •I've heard the same kind of stuff about lots... lots of things that "will never catch on". Every one of those doomsayers were wrong. Some of them unfortunately, but still, they were all wrong.
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Unknown parent • • •I’m from Connecticut and once had a serious problem with a person my company insured from North Carolina. He was talking to me about what caused his accident and I kept hearing “tar” instead of “tire.” We were equally qualified as native speakers.
If you’re concerned, you can listen to more Indian English, because familiarity should ease any understanding difficulties in the future.
over_clox
in reply to idiomaddict • • •I had already spent years doing occasional side work with around a dozen if not more folks originally from India. Most, except the oldest of the elders spoke good if not excellent English. But there's pretty much always gonna be at least a subtle accent, if not a heavy accent with secondary languages.
I thought I understood the fella clearly, but it was both a combination of his accent plus the strange sentence structure context that threw me totally off.
He said he was 'updating his tiles', but I misunderstood his vowels, so I heard 'updating his towels'
And why the hell would he use the word updating, he was literally having all the carpet removed in 44+ rooms and having tiles installed, not 'updated'.
So even the context clues didn't add up, I never guessed he was talking about the tile work he had been planning for months.
MarkalAlvarez
Unknown parent • • •Twitter has been turned into a dumpster fire and people are still using it because of convenience, the same applies to Reddit.
I left Reddit not just because of the CEO but also because of the awful app they forced their users to use full of ads.
over_clox
in reply to MarkalAlvarez • • •Spez (or one of their admin monkeys) perma-banned me from Reddit after like 7 years, for of all stupid things, posting actual facts about Elon Musk and his Boring Company's "Not A Flamethrower" contraption.
Wasn't any hate speech. Wasn't misinformation, I even posted reference links. Wasn't anything inappropriate or gory. Just straight up facts.
That was not all that long before Elon bought Xhitter.
Gotta love the irony huh? Fuck Spez and Musk.
idiomaddict
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in reply to themusicman • • •Kecessa
in reply to Avieshek • • •Even if it's indexed, there's no single website to search for so even if I add "Lemmy" to help, it won't look for content where Lemmy isn't mentioned.
The mistake that was made was making the decentralization something that affects the front end. If the backend was decentralized and the front end was a single default website with people being able to create alternatives (but everyone being guaranteed access to all the content), that wouldn't be an issue. We could tell new users "Sign up on Lemmy.com and if you decide you don't like the UI just choose an alternative and use the same credentials to sign in." No one would know you're using a different UI, all content would be searchable by adding site:lemmy.com to your query.
mark
in reply to Kecessa • • •Kecessa
in reply to mark • • •That's why you make the backend available to all to develop a front end, but there's a default option just called Lemmy that helps solve the indexing and getting people started issue. If the Lemmy default option becomes shit the data is still available and something else becomes the default option.
A bit like Jerboa is the official app, but everyone can develop an alternative... Get rid of the instances and make all content available no matter where you sign up from and let the users curate their feed, you get rid of the admins completely, only moderators continue to exist.
brbposting
in reply to Kecessa • • •I agree it gets complex for users. But pushing back a bit, wouldn’t we instead say:
I have in mind that the top blocked instances are pedo oriented. Also seems like it would create a liability issue for servers mirroring that content.
Although it’s not a perfect solution to choose a default instance for new users, I do think it’s a powerful question to eliminate.
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Unknown parent • • •Peppycito
in reply to Avieshek • • •Lemmy won't catch on until there are groups of communities you can ban at once. Sports, Linux, German, pervy anime... It's a very rare user who will put up with the absolute dreck of the initial feed and manually block communities until they have a feed that's marginally personalized.
Then there's the fact that any communities that are specific to peoples interests are completely empty.
Blaze (he/him)
in reply to Peppycito • • •Those should be locked, and redirect to more generic active communities for the time being.
Any example in mind?
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in reply to Peppycito • • •Very true. But that's what we can create whole instances for: to be the site you think will attract the users you want. With curated feeds, less pervy content, whatever.
There's nothing stopping anyone from starting a whole new world they want to see in the fediverse. Lemmy and other fedi apps are built like this for that very purpose.
Peppycito
in reply to mark • • •mark
in reply to Peppycito • • •That level of feed curation will appeal more to the masses, yeah. Just no one has started an instance like that yet. Although you seem like the perfect person, based on your analysis and responses. 😉
Bluesky is closer to what you're describing. The platform is more centralized and the feeds are more curated for the masses.
Peppycito
in reply to mark • • •cakeistheanswer
in reply to Peppycito • • •I mean it predates a lot of the pervy anime, but Usenet looked the same at the start with lots of Unix/computer boards and an alt.
Computer enthusiasts gonna enthusiastically talk about computers. People who pick up and move to a new platform are likely to be united around being technically competent enough to get there first, and everything else second.
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in reply to Peppycito • • •daniskarma
in reply to Avieshek • • •Why rely on google which is going down on reliability so quickly.
What we need is a GOOD lemmy based search engine. Which I think is entirely possible with current lemmy implementation.
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in reply to FeelThePower • • •And how exactly do you plan to reach this high quality elite content without search engines?
"[search term] reddit" has been a top search since OpenAI decided to open the SEO bot floodgates.
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in reply to Xylight • • •Lvxferre
in reply to Avieshek • • •I mostly agree with the OP, it would be great if Lemmy had more sources of newbies than just "pissed off redditors". (I have further reasons for that, but they don't matter here.) As such I'll focus on specific tidbits here and there.
The content is indexable (by Google), but your point stands as it sucks. It's hard to reliably find Lemmy content by it.
Do you - or anyone here - have a good idea on how to solve that? Someone suggested a Lemmy-based engine; it's tempting but it wouldn't help if the person doesn't know about Lemmy already.
It used to be like this. "Stumbling" upon the site was only a thing later, as it had already enough content to become a source of info.
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site:lemmy.worldin front of your search if using google. You can combine multiple instances with the OR operator iesite:lemmy.world OR site:programming.devthis will force google to give you content only from your desired domains but lemmy.world posts will likely trample the other instances for a lot of stuff.We're becoming a little centralized (which I personally don't find to be such a bad thing yet).
Lvxferre
in reply to 2pt_perversion • • •I'm aware of the
site:example.comgoogle feature. And, while useful for users who already know about Lemmy, it doesn't help to recruit new users, and that's a main point of the OP.About centralisation: that "yet" is key. Putting all your eggs in the same basket is not a bad thing... until someone drops the basket, you know?
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in reply to Cloudless ☼ • • •Not sure why I hadn't tried it
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in reply to herrvogel • • •Yeah clerk.
What’s the point on commenting on something when you know you’re gonna be the only one doing it.
So I guess a few more people would be nice on Lemmy.
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in reply to rhandyrhoads • • •You get all Lemmy results! Yaay!
Sorry, that's really all there's to it.
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Unknown parent • • •Are you here for political discussions?
- if yes, find communities that align with your views. !worldnews@lemmy.world is very different from !worldnews@lemmy.ml and !globalnews@lemmy.zip
- if not, block them
On Reddit there are plenty of examples of subs with "eat the rich" content: reddit.com/r/trolleyproblem/co…
For the vegan thing, the vegans went to another instance, what would you have preferred to happen?
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Oh, that's a throwback. The internet and "nerd culture" used to be somewhat more exclusionary now that I reminisce a bit.
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