Switching to AMD GPU for better gaming performance?
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i try to keep it short: i have issues with some games (like the witcher 3) and often hear that its an issue with nvidia drivers etc..
So my question is: would a switch / small upgrade to a AMD Radeon 6800 be worth it?
Edit:
Small updates:
- witcher 3 was an example. I play newer stuff. But my partner is paying witcher 3 and it lags, while I had to just tune down some settings in horizon remaster.
- I would buy an used and sell mine (would get around the same price on eBay ±40€
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Much of the developed world is watching how the Australian under-16 social media ban is working, with critics already claiming in the UK, that Keir Starmer has a 'blindspot' on the damage social media has wrought on the young....
The key argument in the UK against following the Australian example will, as usual, be that such a ban can be (relatively easily) circumvented - see VPN usage & pornography!
But on this we shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good!
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While there is a real problem here, there are other good arguments against this solution - age verification systems are a personal data issues mess, a risk I especially wouldn't want to take with the personal data of minors.
I also suspect it will lead to a proliferation of equally damaging apps targeted so as to be excluded from the ban lists.
And there's also an extent to which it's a sticking plaster on a much wider societal problem of a lack of healthy digital systems.
Yes, which is why it remains difficult to decide how to move forward, but you're right it is also a sticking plaster on a larger issue.... but a sticking plaster can be a useful part of the healing process (to extend the metaphor)
@Dany Related to that, I was thinking about the story of some students creating their own social media in a shared side deck. And I think that's ok: the big difference being the shared deck is a closed group and not driven by algorithms designed to suck you in as long as possible to see as much paid content as possible.
(A problem for adults too, but we've decided some level of self-destructive behavior is fine once we think you're old enough)
And good luck to them!
a much better approach would be to co-design social media regulatory frameworks with youth representation- they have a much better idea of what’s needed, and the ban puts our most vulnerable (remote, immigrants, LGBTQIA, disabled) at even more risk.
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But I’m definitely not an expert (and you should definitely listen to them over me). Unfortunately, the Aus government has chosen to ignore the experts
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A social media ban on children is an awful idea that is impossible to implement without dramatically reducing online safety for those same children.
You will never stop people finding ways to communicate, just drive them to less visible, less secure, and less safe ways of doing so.
Regulate the companies, not the users. Castigate billionaires, not teenagers.
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@quixoticgeek the key argument is not that it’s unenforceable, or unworkable… it’s that *children (and adults) have a right to communicate*
Imagine it was the 80s and righteous campaigners said that children should be banned from using telephones because they might talk to *bad people*
This is not to let anyone off the hook in terms of safety - we have a duty to educate, to moderate, to regulate. Blanket bans and age gating is all about letting platforms avoid that.
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In the 80s many of us were banned from comic books and RPGs (Role Playing Games, not Rocket Propelled Grenades, nobody was banning Rocket Propelled Grenades)
@hypostase @quixoticgeek the difference being that those were individual parental decisions with varying degrees of informed choice.
This stuff is all top-down.
Which is fair enough, but how do you keep those spaces safe for them?
How do you keep any space safe?
Schools are not safe. Churches are not safe. Scouts is not safe. The little alley back of the pub is not safe. For ever-so-many, "home" us not safe.
These are not new problems. And they have the same solutions. But we're not always as effective as we would like to believe there, either, and we need to understand that.
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I agree these are certainly not new problems, but the Q. is whether the social media space presents a similar danger or a worse one? My feeling is, that it is worse in wellbeing terms (although clearer not worse than direct violence) and is often a space where previous social negatives (bullying, or grooming, for instance) have migrated to
Caveats: I'm in my late 50s, I've been terminally online, but not as much as some, the households I grew up in were not psychologically safe for me, I chose not to have children.
Social media spaces, like any other spaces, vary wildly. Yes some are more popular than others. Certainly some are more toxic. Just like some pubs. Or sports clubs.
You are mistaken to suggest that they have less direct violence, unless you conflate direct violence with physical violence, and even then it's complicated. Bullying exists everywhere, and needs to be managed through identifying the perpetrators and supporting the targets. That has to happen at the individual level because the bullies always know how to manipulate the rules.
There maybe a sense in which the social media landscape presents a worse danger than the 70s. But the second millennium generally presents a wider array of social dangers, and the online space doesn't exist in a vacuums.
The real problem is, as it has ever been, identifying and accepting the structures that harm.
It's not that we need to make sure 15 year olds are not abused, it's that we need to hold all abusers to account, whether they target children or not, whether their actions are considered just the price of society, or the unfortunate cost of doing business.
Sometimes that means we need to look at ourselves, and our friends, our spouses, our bosses, and recognise that toxic behaviour.
It may be convenient to blame Social Media, but that just hides the underlying issues.
I don't disagree with much of that.... but while it may be convenient to blame social media it is neither a neutral vector in the issues you stresses.... but I would agree there is much bigger social structural set of issue here
No, it's not neutral.
But this place, this form of social media, has very much demonstrated that it is possible to have safe, even loving, places to play and explore online. Regulation would be a heavy burden that could criminalise and destroy many of them.
So, we have the issue of the balance between regulation and freedom... and of course, that is a political Q. over which we have been ranging today...
Social media is not un-regulated now, so the issue is what regulatory weight is most appropriate to gain the ends we want.... The Austrian Govt. has taken one view, and as I say, it will be interested (and informative) to see how this plays out
I don't think so. It's more about balance between choice and responsiblity, which can't always be regulated. The Aussie thing is such a blunt force tool that all the sides will argue about it, claiming different causal relationships and outcomes, that it will be unlikely to usefully contribute to objective analysis.
well, of course, the debate about the effects will itself be illustrative of the optical fissures involved
Its more I think something needs to be done, and a good response is better than holding out for a perfect one - I'll reserve judgement on the Australian attempt until we see how its played out...
Just to say, the harm is caused by the ‘media’ bit, not the ‘social’. Profit incentives and addictive algorithmic feeds prioritise retention of eyeballs over anything else.
Talking to others isn’t the principle issue, it’s the things around the conversation in the feed that are substantially the concern.
If children have to take the ‘social’ bit elsewhere they will. It then becomes much harder to know who they are talking to.
To my mind, the problem *is* the use of social media as if it was a neutral public space - it isn't nor will be in the current climate - sayer alternate 'spaces' are what is required.... and part of that, the Australian Govt. clearly thinks, is by encouraging young people back into the physical social networks around them....
For many (but I accept not all) children local social networks of pupils, local friends (parents friends' children) can all be accessed & enjoyed outside the realm of social media.... I see little evidence that such networks have ceased to exist completely?
That's a fair comment; I have only seen such discrimination among young people when I was work at university, and there, alternate grouping developed themselves among the groups being discriminated against, both institutionally & via peer discrimination.... but I have little recent experience of school age children apart form those of my friends - so accept that criticism
Here, as noted in repose to @etchedpixels that had passed me by... but then the Q. is how to help those specific groups, surely?
@burnoutqueen you can't separate them out magically because their friends are not disabled or necessarily rural, so are you going to create a disabled ghetto ?
You have to fix it for all teens to have a safe space to interact online.
Fair enough & that would be what I would want... if it is possible; but the political will to go up against the social media giants to do that doesn't seem likely, so we're left with much less happy (but potentially OK) solutions - at least, we may; that's why I'm interested to see how the Australian ban plays out. But there are no perfect (or even near perfect) answers.... or so it seems
You help those groups by promoting better platforms of online communication that bolster privacy and have guardrails against abuse and bullying
banning vpns is like banning maths. It's an implicit feature of all networking so the only way you can ban it is to turn all computers into a government controlled unmodifiable device managed by a mostly US megacorp.
If you want to crack down on social media and kids then ban processing of kids data like the EU. Ban advertising to children except human pre approved adverts, ban algorithmic feeds
And remember social media is crucial to disabled and to kids in isolated places
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My fist suggestion is to treat all algorithm-promoted social media posts as “publishing”, subject to the same regulation as any other media.
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> If you want to crack down on social media and kids then ban processing of kids data like the EU. Ban advertising to children except human pre approved adverts, ban algorithmic feeds
And crucially: Make the (social media) corporations responsible that this works. No "this was inadvertently. We've a gazillion measure in place, unfortunately they don't always work", but simply, if any of these happen, the penalties apply, full stop.
Criminal police in Germany is actually advising parents not to use certain kid's offerings, because that is where the criminals are looking for kids. So we have a kid offering, that is actually not protected .... this wouldn't happen, if the provider would be made responsible actually policing this. Worst case: They would actually have to terminate this offering, because it doesn't work and is actually risky. Nothing lost then.
Well, we might want to distinguish between adults & children when you say 'people' as this is what the Australian Govt. is doing - I think we should wait to see how it plays out
well, again, as I keep saying we'll see how the Australian ban plays out & I'll reserve judgment as to its efficacy until then...
evidence of the effects of an outright ban on under 16s?
Please share.... was not aware had been attempted elsewhere
ISTM that the VPN argument is just "it doesn't help" whereas this one is "it actively harms".
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Thorry
in reply to FuyuhikoDate • • •It would very much depend on how much you are going to spend. Are you selling the old GPU and getting the "new" GPU second hand? Or are you just straight up buying a new GPU?
And what 6800 exactly are you thinking of?
The difference in performance will be minimal. And something like The Witcher 3 is a very old game, so it's not like you need the performance at all.
I would first dive into the exact issues and figure out if it's actually related to the drivers. Usually the issues with drivers are more with new games, not something old. Keep in mind Witcher 3 has always been a janky game, so a certain number of issues is expected. And this is doubly true when using mods.
FuyuhikoDate
in reply to Thorry • • •Plan was to sell the old one and buy a second hand one, since my board is not the newest and I hoped for an easier solution than troubleshooting.
It seems that everybody tells me its not worth it and can lead to simliar issues? So I gonna try troubleshooting when i am back home and send some more details :)
nutbutter
in reply to FuyuhikoDate • • •6800 xt might match 3070's performance on Linux, but I would not consider it an "upgrade". I would recommend looking up more info on ProtonDB and posting specific questions (if you have not tried that already).
Yes, choosing an AMD gpu will give you other benefits as well, like system stability etc., but make sure your purchase decision is worth it.
If I am not wrong, you can sell you 3070 for about $150-200 and buy a used 6800xt for about $220.
One more thing you can try before buying anything... Try a different OS, like Bazzite or Nobara based on Fedora, or PopOS based on Debian. Different bases can alter performance. I had a laptop with 3060 and it always performed slightly worse on Arch and Debian based systems. For some reasons, the GPU didn't exceed 85 watts, even though the TDP was 100 watts. Only Fedora and it's derivates make my GPU work as intended. But this is a case for laptop GPUs.
FuyuhikoDate
in reply to nutbutter • • •Was also thinking about that.
But i am not really a friend of distro hopping (maybe its time to do a clonezilla backup the living room PC) :D
Also for me it was the question: troubleshooting or just being lazy and an and GPU? :D
Matty_r
in reply to FuyuhikoDate • • •Switching might not fix your issues, and might just be swapping for other issues.
Ive been running Nvidia with Linux for over 10 years and its improved significantly over that time. Around the time the 30xx series came out I was looking to upgrade from my 1080ti - I wanted to switch to AMD (because I heard the drivers are better) I got a 6900XT and had heaps of problems and even worse performance in some games than my 1080ti. I ended up returning it and got a 3070ti instead, and I had no problems and performance was great.
About a month ago I wanted to upgrade my 3070ti and give AMD another shot with a 9070XT - its been absolutely flawless this time around.
All this is to say there are no guarantees going AMD will solve your problems, but I would consider going an AMD 9070 series instead - particularly since their FSR Redstone thing only applies to the latest cards
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in reply to FuyuhikoDate • • •I understand. The 3070ti is still a good card - I personally think you might be disappointed getting an equivalent AMD card because its no guarantee to solve your problems or improve performance.
Again this is all my personal opinion etc, weigh up your pros and cons. Prices can vary a lot in different regions. You might be able to snatch up a bargain.
Snot Flickerman
in reply to FuyuhikoDate • • •I have had great luck with a 6600XT myself, but your mileage may vary. There seems to be a fair amount of variance in terms of which AMD cards have solid footing in Linux and which games they work well with. I haven't had any issues but I generally don't play visually demanding games.
Also, if you ever want to roll out your own local LLM, you're just going to have better performance with an Nvidia card, as ROCm just seems to not be quite up to snuff at speedy work.
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in reply to FuyuhikoDate • • •I don't know AMD CPUs that well but could it be you are CPU bound?
I have the same gpu RTX 3070 with an i5 8600k and Im CPU bound, not by much though. Last time I played Witcher 3 it was running very good only in Novigrad it was stuttery due to the amount of characters
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in reply to FuyuhikoDate • • •Its not worth switching GPU for this. 3070 should be plenty capable of running witcher3. Ive got a friend running a 3060 and she plays all kinds of games with very few driver issues.
We should troubleshoot your issue first and see if a new GPU is required.
FuyuhikoDate
in reply to Fizz • • •witcher 3 was more an example. I play newer stuff. But my partner is paying witcher 3 and it lags, while I had to just tune down some settings in horizon remaster.
I am out of town for a week, then I will update my post with more infos, thanks for offering some help :)
yeehaw
in reply to FuyuhikoDate • • •I put dozens of hours into the Witcher 3 running it at 3880x1440 on a 2070 super.
So I did all this on the game of the year edition with a graphics patch/mod.
Cdpr released the remaster which, in my opinion, looks about the same. But it performed like total ass.
You can download and run the old version and throw on the graphics patches. I lost significant amounts of frames with the cdpr remaster vs base game with mod
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in reply to FuyuhikoDate • • •I went from being annoyed with my 3080 to being extremely happy with my 7900xt. The driver issues no longer became an issue because AMD. One important detail is this was a new build which meant I also went from a 3700X to a 9800x3D.
Personally it's worth it ESPECIALLY since gpu prices have come down.
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