North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un is sending troops to help his Russian counterpart. The Russian Empire is making every effort to capture a small free state. And it asks dictatorial regimes for troops. Right now, the entire civilized world needs to consolidate and support Ukraine! byteseu.com/483398/ #Ukraine #UkraineConflict #UkraineConflict
Choose 20 games that have had a big impact on you. One game per day, for 20 days. No explanations, no ratings, no particular order (well, i think this part of the rule i will slightly change into a general chronological order from old to new, but we will see). #GameChallenge
Dans Algorithmique, je vais à la rencontre de scientifiques, de chercheuses, de professionnels, de membres de la société civile, de juristes... et je vous rapporte leurs réflexions sur l'intelligence artificielle, ce qu'elle est vraiment, ce qu'elle va changer ou pas.
Le teaser est dispo dès maintenant, et pour l'écouter, c'est par là :
Quels sont les effets concrets de l'intelligence artificielle sur l'environnement ? Dans quelle mesure ces technologies aident-elles à lutter contre le dérèglement climatique ? Ont-elles plutôt tendance à le renforcer ?
Dans le quatrième épisode du #podcast Algorithmique, Next en discute avec le sociologue @clementmarquet et l'informaticienne Anne-Laure Ligozat.
Pour l'écouter, c'est sur toutes les bonnes plateformes ou directement sur notre site.
Abonnez-vous, partagez-nous, mettez-nous des étoiles !
Faut-il encadrer l’intelligence artificielle ? Si oui, comment ?
Après avoir détaillé certains des effets concrets de l’IA sur les populations et l’environnement, Next reçoit dans son podcast #Algorithmique la juriste Imane Bello et le sociologue Bilel Benbouzid pour parler régulation de ce vaste champ de recherche et d’innovation.
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Comment appréhender l'intelligence artificielle en tant que citoyenne, citoyen, ou quand on travaille dans le numérique ? Dans le dernier épisode de la série Algorithmique, on discute avec Data For Good, Latitudes et @designersethiques pour tenter de dessiner des pistes.
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D’où viennent les biais de l’intelligence artificielle ? Est-il techniquement, humainement, socialement possible de les corriger ?
Dans le deuxième épisode du #podcast Algorithmique, j’interroge l’informaticienne et professeure en sciences de l’éducation @Isabellecollet et la chercheuse en intelligence artificielle Raziye Buse Çetin pour débattre de certains enjeux sociaux soulevés par l’expansion de l’IA.
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Que faire quand on se retrouve face à un système algorithmique qui fonctionne mal ? Est-il possible de se défendre ?
Dans le troisième épisode du #podcast Algorithmique, Next s'entretient avec Valérie, responsable numérique du collectif Changer de Cap, qui vient d'attaquer l'algorithme de lutte contre la fraude de la CAF devant le Conseil d'Etat ; et Camille Lextray (@Hysterique_mais_pas_que), qui cherche à faire la lumière sur les systèmes de modération d'Instagram.
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There has NEVER been paper at #SIGGRAPH on Black, Afro-textured hair in its entire 50 year history.
UNTIL NOW.
We introduce CURLY-CUE: GEOMETRIC METHODS FOR HIGHLY COILED HAIR. When you STOP assuming straight hair is a universal baseline, lots of new science opens up. 1/
@fell No problem - there is not directly a rolling release variant, but you could consider the “Rawhide” branch as such. However, it is only suitable for experienced users, developers and testers; I would not use it on a production system. Although I know people who have been using Rawhide as their daily driver for years
I’ll be dropping a #howto video on flashing a bootable usb drive, then putting #linux onto a “vintage” #apple MacBook Pro (2009) tomorrow. Today at randallthomastech.com I released a new #RandyAndTheTechpocalypse blog about #quantumcomputing and #cybersecurity - don’t sleep on me, I’m lumpy.
I've just read about ClubsAll in the Fediverse Report and did some digging. It seems to be another Threadiverse service federating with Lemmy and others.
While I always welcome new platforms into the fediverse, there are some weird things with this one.
It isn't open source, but the developer mentioned on ProductHunt that they want to open source it in the future.
You can't run your own ClubsAll instance at the moment
They want you to join their Discord, but wouldn't it be better to have the conversation around it on ClubsAll itself? I've found a ClubsAll Community on ClubsAll but it only has two posts from 10 months ago without any comments or upvotes.
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I've just read about ClubsAll in the Fediverse Report and did some digging. It seems to be another Threadiverse service federating with Lemmy and others.
While I always welcome new platforms into the fediverse, there are some weird things with this one.
It isn't open source, but the developer mentioned on ProductHunt that they want to open source it in the future.
You can't run your own ClubsAll instance at the moment
They want you to join their Discord, but wouldn't it be better to have the conversation around it on ClubsAll itself? I've found a ClubsAll Community on ClubsAll but it only has two posts from 10 months ago without any comments or upvotes.
Their main search bar is just a Google search
They want to finance it through paid accounts, awards and donations according to their about page.
According to their privacy policy they collect interactions with the content, like voting, bookmarking and reporting to improve and personalize the website and to develop new products and services and for marketing and promotional purposes.
I haven't found content that originated on ClubsAll yet, apart from c/ClubsAll. All I'm seeing is content federated from Lemmy communities.
For me there are some red flags in there, like closed source code, paid accounts and data collection for marketing. But, correct me if I'm wrong.
A reddit clone, at least we are starting with that but there is a lot more planned. We have a long list of innovative features we will continue to add one by one.
Mastodon has officially launched a new version, a new Reddit-like with ClubsAll has launched, and IFTAS has started rolling out their content classifier system.
Mastodon launches version 4.3
Mastodon has released version 4.3, and the update comes with a better notification system, design improvements, displaying follow recommendations in the following feed for new accounts, and the ability to highlight the fediverse profile of the authors of shared articles.
There are two updates to the notification system: notifications are now grouped, and the ability to filter notifications. Grouped notifications means that you’ll see a summary of the number of people who liked and boosted your post, instead of getting each notification individually. This is especially helpful for posts that go viral, as your notifications become unusable without grouping. Third party clients also support grouping notifications of new followers, which Mastodon does not do. With notification filters, you can limit specific types of notifications, for example from people who are not following you, from new accounts, or to filter out unsolicited private mentions.
With the new carousel that displays follow suggestions for new accounts, Mastodon leaned on transparency. For each suggestion it is also displayed why an account is suggested. It seems there are four different reasons for an account to be suggested: ‘Popular on your server’, ‘Popular among people you follow’, ‘Similar to profiles you recently followed’ and ‘Handpicked by your server admins’.
For future plans Mastodon mentions three parts: working on adding quote posts, the ability for server admins to subscribe to managed deny-lists and improving how long-form text is displayed in Mastodon. Mastodon also features a request for donations at the end, noting that they are supported by donations and operate on less than 500k per year. It showcases the difficult spot that Mastodon is in: as the post highlights, their competitors have access to significant capital, which allows them to ship features significantly faster. While it is remarkable what Mastodon has accomplished with their budget, the small team also means that it has taken a year to ship this update 4.3, while the competition can move significantly faster. Not taking venture capital, not selling ads, and not selling data are great things to do, but the update cadence of Mastodon versus that of Bluesky or Threads shows that not doing so puts a significant limit on what the organisation can accomplish during this period of protocol wars.
ClubsAll has launched
ClubsAll is a new fediverse project, a Reddit-alternative similar to Lemmy, PieFed and Mbin. ClubsAll main goal is to provide a clean and easily-accessible UI, and explicitly positions itself as a Reddit alternative. The other focus is on live comments and live chat, where new comments that are made on a post flow in directly visible. The comment section includes both the traditional threaded view as well as a chatbox to invite more chat-like realtime reactions. Other features are easy cross-posting of new posts to up to three communities, and having multiple profiles under a simple login.
With their simplified communities, ClubsAll takes in posts from multiple communities from Lemmy, PieFed and Mbin, and brands them under a single club. This does solve a practical problem, namely that communities can get split over multiple servers, creating duplicates without a clear distinction between the different communities. It is unclear what the practical difference is between the fediverse community on lemmy.ml and the fediverse community on lemmy.world. PieFed solves this problem by having both communities (similar to Lemmy), as well as ‘topics’, which aggregates different communities into a single topic. PieFed makes it explicit that it aggregates posts from multiple communities. ClubsAll however, mostly hides this information, making it less clear that posts come from different platforms. I’m curious to see what the response to this by the community will be, as there are no clear norms so far on what is an acceptable use of federation, and what isn’t. When you take in posts from a different platform, what form of attribution is necessary? ClubsAll clearly attributes the original author, but should the original community also be accredited? The answer is unclear to me, and I’m watching to see how this evolves.
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IFTAS has been working on a Content Classification System, and the first classifier is now active. A few select server are working together with IFTAS, where all the media of these servers now get scanned for CSAM. In case of a hit, IFTAS handles the mandatory requirement and record-keeping, and issues a takedown. CSAM moderation is a difficult task for server admins to keep track of, both of the toll it takes on the humans, as well for the complex legal requirements that come with it.
NLnet has been a major sponsor of fediverse projects over the years. They announced the results their latest funding round this week in which they sponsor a large variety of open source project. The fediverse project that got funded is Loops, a TikTok-like short video platform by Pixelfed developer Daniel Supernault. Loops was scheduled for a public beta launch on Wednesday the 9th, but this has been delayed for 11 days. Supernault attributes the delay to the rumour that Threads is working on a Communities feature that is also supposedly called Loops, as well as to further polish the app and platform.
The SocialCG, the W3C Community Group for ActivityPub has agreed on starting work to form a charter to transition towards a Working Group. The details require some knowledge of W3C processes (that I don’t fully grok either), but the very short summary is that a Working Group has more impact on making changes to the ActivityPub protocol.
FediMod FIRES is both a protocol for distributing moderation advisories and recommendations and a reference server implementation. Emelia Smith, who is behind the project, has updated the website with more information as well as a general timeline for when work on the project happens.
ActivityPods is a project that combines the Solid protocol with ActivityPub, and they have released their 2.0 version. ActivityPods allows users to create a single account for multiple different apps; with ActivityPub you need a separate accounts for Pixelfed and Mastodon, for example. ActivityPods gives you one place to store your data, your Pod, based on the Solid protocol, and the Inbox and Outbox system of ActivityPub. This update of ActivityPods gives the ability to set granular permission levels for the access to data than an app has that is build on top of ActivityPods.
Seems a bit weird indeed, especially the closed source part and lack of details on how they implement federation (is it possible to follow a clubsall community from elsewhere?)
Reddit thread paints a sad picture. Product founder without a technical co-founder. Isn't able to articulate market fit. Doesn't trust his engineer's work. Yikes
With their simplified communities, ClubsAll takes in posts from multiple communities from Lemmy, PieFed and Mbin, and brands them under a single club. This does solve a practical problem, namely that communities can get split over multiple servers, creating duplicates without a clear distinction between the different communities. It is unclear what the practical difference is between the fediverse community on lemmy.ml and the fediverse community on lemmy.world. PieFed solves this problem by having both communities (similar to Lemmy), as well as ‘topics’, which aggregates different communities into a single topic. PieFed makes it explicit that it aggregates posts from multiple communities. ClubsAll however, mostly hides this information, making it less clear that posts come from different platforms. I’m curious to see what the response to this by the community will be, as there are no clear norms so far on what is an acceptable use of federation, and what isn’t. When you take in posts from a different platform, what form of attribution is necessary
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With their simplified communities, ClubsAll takes in posts from multiple communities from Lemmy, PieFed and Mbin, and brands them under a single club. This does solve a practical problem, namely that communities can get split over multiple servers, creating duplicates without a clear distinction between the different communities. It is unclear what the practical difference is between the fediverse community on lemmy.ml and the fediverse community on lemmy.world. PieFed solves this problem by having both communities (similar to Lemmy), as well as ‘topics’, which aggregates different communities into a single topic. PieFed makes it explicit that it aggregates posts from multiple communities. ClubsAll however, mostly hides this information, making it less clear that posts come from different platforms. I’m curious to see what the response to this by the community will be, as there are no clear norms so far on what is an acceptable use of federation, and what isn’t. When you take in posts from a different platform, what form of attribution is necessary? ClubsAll clearly attributes the original author, but should the original community also be accredited? The answer is unclear to me, and I’m watching to see how this evolves.
I can for sure tell you that !politics@lemmy.world and !politics@lemmy.ml are definitely not the same communities, and hiding that might give users some surprises
My post now federated to ClubsAll, comments seem to federate a little slower. There is no mention that this is content from lemmy.world and clicking on the fediverse "club" just gives a 404.
From a entrepreneur point of view, this looks like a clear monetization attempt. Gather content from federated communities, sell to investors on the name "fediverse". B2C is generally very hard to pull off because there's so much competition so I doubt they'll succeed, but there is that saying about seeing what sticks on the wall.
Also, from both a user and entrepreneur point of view, you need to break into markets by starting small. The fediverse heavily leveraged the open source community to get started. I personally would not be on Lemmy if Lemmy wasn't AGPL. ClubsAll doesn't have that.
With no ill intent, I hope they fail. They're not contributing, and we don't need proprietary cancer in the fediverse.
Any reason why they should be defederated, other than "we don't like closed source around here"?
I really don't mind closed platforms being federated as long as it doesn't hurt the rest of us in any way. If it brings in some users who are drawn in by the interface, that's great.
Of course, being a single site it might draw the wrong crowd, and end up having serious moderation problems. In that case of course defederation is a natural choice.
I don't think this will be much of a problem for the rest of us, as the users over there will also not be interested in posting in communities where they get fewer interactions. It sounds bad for people who want to start a community at cluball, but unless it somehow gets larger than the rest of the threadiverse combined it's not really much of a problem for the rest of us.
Not being able to host your own ClubsAll instance is another issue.
Let's take a hypothetical scenario - As they are on ProductHunt, they manage to raise a few millions, hire devs, develop every feature you can think about under the sun - Fediverse users move massively to ClubsAll to enjoy the new features, Redditors move too because it's better than Reddit - Over time, due to those new features and other "technical reasons",, federation with Lemmy and others becomes clunky, or completely stops - Meta / Google / Reddit buys ClubsAll and start to look how to extract a profit from the large userbase, enshittifies the mobile app, the web interface, etc.
Seems to bring us back to the current Reddit situation with extra steps.
From a entrepreneur point of view, this looks like a clear monetization attempt. Gather content from federated communities, sell to investors on the name "fediverse". B2C is generally very hard to pull off because there's so much competition so I doubt they'll succeed, but there is that saying about seeing what sticks on the wall.
Also, from both a user and entrepreneur point of view, you need to break into markets by starting small. The fediverse heavily leveraged the open source community to get started. I personally would not be on Lemmy if Lemmy wasn't AGPL. ClubsAll doesn't have that.
With no ill intent, I hope they fail. They're not contributing, and we don't need this sort of proprietary cancer in the fediverse.
I would guess it's rather just not implemented as a feature yet, as it's probably not a development priority.
Or maybe they figured the ClubAll-community could be closed off. But in general, it seems to be a project where missing features is the likely result of it still being at an early stage.
I think it'll be hard to be successful with that. Lemmy's userbase is small and not growing. Projects like KBin died. And we already have several frontends. Now someone introduces yet another one, just that it's not open source, not actively developed unless they pay a developer to fix something. It doesn't have a community yet. And I don't see any significant features that'd attract 100k new users or something. They don't seem to be invested for the same reasons the existing Lemmy community mingles here. And they're not eating their own dogfood but rather discussing it on Reddit... So maybe they're good at marketing? I think that'd be the only reason why something like this would take off and be successful.
I don't think it's censorship necessarily. Their approach to combine similar communities into one club could be the cause and maybe they just haven't set up the c/fediverse club yet.
Hi everyone, I’m Vinay, the founder of ClubsAll. I’ve noticed some negative sentiment, and I can understand why. I’ll do my best to clarify all the questions raised here.
clubsall.com/c/fediverse gives a 404, hiding posts such as the one we’re in. Very early censorship? Their approach to combining similar communities into one club could be the cause, and maybe they just haven’t set up the c/fediverse club yet.
Lemmy is too big to show everything. To keep costs low and due to some technical constraints with hosting, we had to prioritize what would be most useful to the broader community. If we show everything, the database won't be able to handle it, and I won't be able to afford the hosting costs.
There is no mention that this is content from lemmy.world. This is intentional. For federated servers to really compete, complexity needs to be eliminated. One of the goals of ClubsAll is to simplify everyt
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Hi everyone, I’m Vinay, the founder of ClubsAll. I’ve noticed some negative sentiment, and I can understand why. I’ll do my best to clarify all the questions raised here.
clubsall.com/c/fediverse gives a 404, hiding posts such as the one we’re in. Very early censorship? Their approach to combining similar communities into one club could be the cause, and maybe they just haven’t set up the c/fediverse club yet.
Lemmy is too big to show everything. To keep costs low and due to some technical constraints with hosting, we had to prioritize what would be most useful to the broader community. If we show everything, the database won't be able to handle it, and I won't be able to afford the hosting costs.
There is no mention that this is content from lemmy.world. This is intentional. For federated servers to really compete, complexity needs to be eliminated. One of the goals of ClubsAll is to simplify everything, so we hide servers, instances, multiple logins etc that can be confusing and overwhelming for a new user. We're innovating and trying something different to help the Fediverse succeed. However, if we’re violating any community guidelines or site policies, please let us know.
This looks like a clear monetization attempt. We just launched. Please give us time to survive and implement features before jumping to conclusions.
They’re not contributing, and we don’t need proprietary cancer in the Fediverse.
Sorry you feel that way. Keep in mind that we built everything from scratch. Federation is not currently implemented, and we’ll need time.
Personally, I hope they open source, because the interface is visually appealing and quite fast. What I expect is most instances defederating from them soon, killing the product in the process.
Thank you for the compliment! I do intend to open source ClubsAll once I get some help. I truly appreciate the feedback and hope we are not defederated.
Being a single site, it might draw the wrong crowd and end up having serious moderation problems.
This is insightful and another reason for us to prioritize federation.
Seems to bring us back to the current Reddit situation with extra steps.
That’s a valid concern. However, I’ll open source the project once I get some assistance, which should alleviate some of these fears.
If you query it like a federated platform would, it returns HTML rather than the required JSON.
Keep in mind, ClubsAll was built from scratch and is funded entirely out of pocket. We’ve done as much as we can with what’s currently online (and a couple of new features are coming soon that I’m testing).
It seems to be a project where missing features are likely due to it still being at an early stage.
That’s exactly right. This is the main reason. Unfortunately, our developer recently left, so we’re at a bit of a feature freeze for now, aside from a couple of things coming soon.
Lack of details on how they implement federation.
We built federation from scratch, so many features are still missing. Currently, we don't federate, so it’s not possible to follow from elsewhere at this time.
Do you have any idea of the timeframe when you’ll be able to open source the project?
I replied in the other thread, copy pasting here: Open sourcing is not time dependent. I just need 1. security review by someone experienced to make sure we do not instantly get hacked as soon as we open 2. and some commitment to fix critical bugs and hacks that will kill ClubsAll or steal resources
what are the languages used to develop ClubsAll Ah, good question. It is typescript, next, React, Cloudflare
security review by someone experienced to make sure we do not instantly get hacked as soon as we open
The source not being open will not prevent attackers from trying to hack your website as it currently online.
If you need help with having a look at the code, you can probably reach out to people here. You might want to shut the website down during the review so that if an issue is discovered it won't be exploited.
It is typescript, next, React, Cloudflare
Interesting, those are all front-end languages. Do you know which one was used for the back-end?
ClubsAll is an interactive online platform that empowers users to connect with people, engage in a wide range of discussions, and share content on a variety of topics.
There is discussion going around right now about if more instances should defederate from this project. If you have any updates on the points you mentioned above, please do share!
I have some feedback, and I hope it doesn't come across as being too hostile.
we had to prioritize what would be most useful to the broader community
How are you planning to do this in the long run? Hand picking communities will be hard to scale I want to find the communities I like, and I'm not sure I'd like a curated feed like that.
A Lemmy instance doesn't show content from every other Lemmy instance out there, nor does it pull all communities from federated instances. For example, lemmy.ca doesn't pull content from every lemmy.world community, only the ones that our users search for and subscribe to. That keeps the server costs low and leaves it up to the users.
If this is a temporary thing for testing, then disregard :)
For federated servers to really compete, complexity needs to be eliminated. One of the goals of ClubsAll is
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There is discussion going around right now about if more instances should defederate from this project. If you have any updates on the points you mentioned above, please do share!
I have some feedback, and I hope it doesn't come across as being too hostile.
we had to prioritize what would be most useful to the broader community
How are you planning to do this in the long run? Hand picking communities will be hard to scale I want to find the communities I like, and I'm not sure I'd like a curated feed like that.
A Lemmy instance doesn't show content from every other Lemmy instance out there, nor does it pull all communities from federated instances. For example, lemmy.ca doesn't pull content from every lemmy.world community, only the ones that our users search for and subscribe to. That keeps the server costs low and leaves it up to the users.
If this is a temporary thing for testing, then disregard :)
For federated servers to really compete, complexity needs to be eliminated. One of the goals of ClubsAll is to simplify everything, so we hide servers, instances, multiple logins etc that can be confusing and overwhelming for a new user.
Having helped some non-technical users get started with the fediverse, it's not actually that bad. Something like this would be more confusing because now you can't see where that user or post is coming from. I am otter@lemmy.ca, but there are other people with the username otter from other instances. Will we all look like the same user? What about similarly named communities from different places, which don't actually deal with the same subject matter.
Instead, would you consider keeping the servers and instances but making them smaller in the UI? That way it's not a distraction, but the information is still there.
Seems to bring us back to the current Reddit situation with extra steps.
That’s a valid concern. However, I’ll open source the project once I get some assistance, which should alleviate some of these fears.
The problem the fediverse is tackling is centralization, not lack of open source. That's what the comment was referring to. If the goal of this project is to be a one stop shop for all threadiverse content, you're not going to find much support here.
Reddit was once open source as well. Having the code available is helpful in some ways, such as by being open about the algorithms used, but it doesn't solve all problems. Similarly, without a way for others to host the software, it's hard to tell if that is the actual code running on the live server.
That’s exactly right. This is the main reason. Unfortunately, our developer recently left, so we’re at a bit of a feature freeze for now, aside from a couple of things coming soon.
That's totally ok, the fediverse has many projects like this in various stages of development. The concern expressed in this thread is less about what the project is doing now, and more about clarity on what the future plans are.
For example:
funding through donations instead of paid accounts, advertising, and user data
a confirmation on what kind of federation it will have
After some discussion with another fediverse developer, he recommended we move to sublinks library. I posted our tech plans here lemmy.world/comment/12922172. This will achieve a number of things - move db to postgres, deployment to docker/k8s, enable lemmy clients, make some security changes so our passwords are not exposed, this in turn will enable open sourcing and self hosting. This seems the best path forward.
2. We almost completed the move when we found out that sublinks library itself does not have federation implemented. I was told it will be picked up in 2025 but it is also being developer by volunteers, so the timeline is not certain. Since we almost finished move to sublinks, as soon as they have federation, we should be able to move very quickly since work on our side is mostly done.
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Sorry for late reply.
I posted update elsewhere but here it is again
After some discussion with another fediverse developer, he recommended we move to sublinks library. I posted our tech plans here lemmy.world/comment/12922172. This will achieve a number of things - move db to postgres, deployment to docker/k8s, enable lemmy clients, make some security changes so our passwords are not exposed, this in turn will enable open sourcing and self hosting. This seems the best path forward.
2. We almost completed the move when we found out that sublinks library itself does not have federation implemented. I was told it will be picked up in 2025 but it is also being developer by volunteers, so the timeline is not certain. Since we almost finished move to sublinks, as soon as they have federation, we should be able to move very quickly since work on our side is mostly done.
How are you planning to do this in the long run? Hand picking communities will be hard to scale I want to find the communities I like, and I’m not sure I’d like a curated feed like that.
Core idea is to create a frontend for simple users who do not want to learn about servers and navigation to use a product. So we are starting with curated feed, once we have traffic, we can add features for advanced users to let users pick any community from any server.
Instead, would you consider keeping the servers and instances but making them smaller in the UI? That way it’s not a distraction, but the information is still there. A lot of people mentioned it this time around. So we will show the instance name along with username i.e. change from /u/otter to /u/otter@lemmy.ca . This should be live before 2025. Hope this addresses your concern.
The problem the fediverse is tackling is centralization, not lack of open source. That’s what the comment was referring to. If the goal of this project is to be a one stop shop for all threadiverse content, you’re not going to find much support here.
Understood. Not everyone has to or will agree with what others are doing. I am trying something different. I am only asking for not enforcing undocumented rules too hard until we have some minimum traffic like let's say 100 active users in a month (can be easily seen by who makes comments, Comments are federated). That should be reasonable to say "now you have some traction, do participate in community"
That’s totally ok, the fediverse has many projects like this in various stages of development. The concern expressed in this thread is less about what the project is doing now, and more about clarity on what the future plans are. For example: funding through donations instead of paid accounts, advertising, and user data a confirmation on what kind of federation it will have
It will have 2 way federation. As for funding, I am myself not sure, we have to try something different, whatever works. Again, while others may disagree, but are there rules on what not to do? What I see is that donation approach alone has not generated enough money for any server to be a real competitor. So are others free to try other things?
Looking forward to the sublinks migration, I know a lot of people were looking into it for when it becomes ready!
Core idea is to create a frontend for simple users who do not want to learn about servers and navigation to use a product. So we are starting with curated feed, once we have traffic, we can add features for advanced users to let users pick any community from any server.
Well rather, how will you pick which communities go in that feed? It's not a bad plan, but transparency would encourage your users to use that feed
Understood. Not everyone has to or will agree with what others are doing. I am trying something different. I am only asking for not enforcing undocumented rules too hard until we have some minimum traffic like let's say 100 active users in a month
With how new fediverse tech is, a lot of new rules will be "written" based on what people try. Obfuscating or misleading people on where content is coming from (which is the concern people are expressing here), seems like something people w
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Looking forward to the sublinks migration, I know a lot of people were looking into it for when it becomes ready!
Core idea is to create a frontend for simple users who do not want to learn about servers and navigation to use a product. So we are starting with curated feed, once we have traffic, we can add features for advanced users to let users pick any community from any server.
Well rather, how will you pick which communities go in that feed? It's not a bad plan, but transparency would encourage your users to use that feed
Understood. Not everyone has to or will agree with what others are doing. I am trying something different. I am only asking for not enforcing undocumented rules too hard until we have some minimum traffic like let's say 100 active users in a month
With how new fediverse tech is, a lot of new rules will be "written" based on what people try. Obfuscating or misleading people on where content is coming from (which is the concern people are expressing here), seems like something people will push back against.
A simple toggle would fix this issue
show the instances (default)
simplify my feed (removes the instances)
Again, while others may disagree, but are there rules on what not to do?
Nope, no rules on what not to do. Users and other instances are free to decide which ideas to support.
What I see is that donation approach alone has not generated enough money for any server to be a real competitor. So are others free to try other things?
I don't think any one instance is trying to be the replacement alone? That seems to be a big misunderstanding on what people want from the threadiverse. Despite network effects that limit growth, these instances continue to grow, self sustain from donations and grants, and prove how easy it can be to break away from the model big tech companies have adopted.
My view is that most people chose to use Lemmy/Mbin/PieFed/Sublinks over the established alternatives (ex. Reddit) because they didn't like how those alrernatives were being run.
As such, you might find it easier to build a userbase by avoiding what Reddit has done rather than try to emulate it
Well rather, how will you pick which communities go in that feed? It’s not a bad plan, but transparency would encourage your users to use that feed
Homepage should be based on communities with maximum subscribers. But with a login, each user can subscriber/unsubscribe and create their custom homepage. Yes, once we have some stability and traffic, we should publish these choices we made for transparency.
With how new fediverse tech is, a lot of new rules will be “written” based on what people try. Obfuscating or misleading people on where content is coming from (which is the concern people are expressing here), seems like something people will push back against.
Obfuscation was not the objective. Now after many complained, you can see real username and servername on each post.
As such, you might find it easier to build a userbase by avoiding what Reddit has done rather than try to emulate it
That is not my vision and I am ok if users decide this is not what they want and adoption fails.
Question for everyone here, how is everyone paying for hosting and development costs? While profit is not my motive, break even is needed for long term sustainability.
What a smooth journey from Cologne, Germany, back home to Stockholm, Sweden! Apart from a small delay from Cologne to Hamburg, all trains were on time. Moreover, no train was overfull; I always got plenty of space around my seat. Maybe one minor complaint: There was no wifi from Hamburg to Copenhagen. But for such cases, I have always a book to dive in. The weather: Rainy all the way from Cologne to Stockholm; Just the right day for a train ride.
@publicvoit Maybe you only remember the part over the Öresund bridge. It takes some 15 minutes to get there from Copenhagen Central Station, and on the Swedish side it takes another 10 minutes to get to Malmö Central.
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Day 2: Elite (CPC464 version)
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Day 3: Red Baron (PC version)
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Day 4: Wing Commander
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Day 5: Sim City
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(I'm beginning to sense a certain pattern....)
Day 6: X-Wing (and of course all following, vs. Tie Fighter etc.)
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Day 7: Caesar II
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Day 8: Age of Empires 2
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