At this point, of cours ehe should

People will rightfully call him out and then forget about it by tomorrow when trump says something stupid.

Once trump gets in office, no one will ever be able to remember any of this because the shit will be a full never ending flow into a turbine

You don't understand that we don't actually give a fuck about the pardon of Hunter, it is a demonstration of all the shit he could do to help people in his last days in office, just going ham with pardons and executive orders and he did literally nothing, not even student debt relief. Do not talk to me like a child when you yourself come in here not even knowing wtf YOU are talking about.

This condescending bullshit from someone that doesn't even understand what is so infuriating about this move in the absence of helping actually deserving people is what everyone is shitting on him for. I am not even outraged because I am not surprised. What does outrage me are liberals like you that don't even understand what everyone is dunking on.

Kamala had every chance to appeal to those voters, define herself as a candidate, and provide answers for our economy, which at the end of the day is the one thing that really matters to voters. Instead, she pretended everything was fine, adopted narratives from the right and allowed them to posture like they have all the solutions, so she could look like an incompetent and feckless alternative to Republicans for people that were never going to vote for a Democrat anyways.

As a result, she very predictably failed to mobilize her own base. That is not the fault of the american public, and all of you scratched liberal vote shaming "democracy protectors" were never going outflank such an abysmal national campaign.

The Democrats are okay with bleeding voters and losing elections to fascists if the alternative is to challenge the power of capital, and the time has come to reckon with the fact that they are nothing but another obstacle in the fight for the people of this country.

Yeah it is weird how self righteous liberals react towards being shown over and over that their group is to blame for this shitshow.

But I doubt the US will ever leave NATO without a coup happening in the US. The US would basically lose more than half their geopolitical influence.

It was fun while it lasted - Cheers!

No, it wasn't, it was and still is a fucking genocidal shitshow right from the start to the end which can't come soon enough.

I so ready MTG as Magic the gathering..so i cast one colorless and one blue for time walk...

To Walk Back to Pre Trump era. Lets See whats gonna happen

And if the people overthrew Hitler in 1933 would it be because they’re sore losers who lost? He went into power democratically elected. I think hindsight shows us that somebody should of tried to overthrow him to avoid all the horrible deaths caused by him.

Make no mistake. These christofascists will round up people like me. I’m a visibly queer woman and I can’t keep my mouth shut or try to feminize myself more to blend in. They’re gonna give me no choice but to defend myself. After reviewing history, I vote offense rather than defense this time around.

I look forward to watching y’all eat crow as Israel wipes out Palestine

Wow, the liberals are straight up admitting their monstrous racism now?

the US leaves NATO

This would be good for the Global South, which is why Trump won't do it

and western democracy collapses.

The West hasn't had a workable implementation of Democracy to begin with, though if you finally recognize that are you going to sit out or do something about it?

It's not an issue that actually affects them so they only pretend to care when it's easy, then swap back the moment there is no backlash or they get what they want enough to not have to pretend again. That's like the whole shtick of a liberal.

But we got to love them cause they are the superior liberal.

Nah you just don't get it cause everyone else is to much of a ducking stupid imbred moron who didn't get to go to the good school that I went to to realize how I am right about everything in their life and that dumb people don't have a right to complain because they are stupid anyways and it proves they can't be trusted until I educate them better which I don't want to do because I am living a better life than them in every way.

So like it's not the Dems fault and people should just accept what's best for them and be ready to be used as a scapegoat whenever we throw a tantrum for things not going out way and just leave without doing anything cause they don't even deserve kindness anymore even though we have totally been kind the whole time!

/Hard S

But tell them they are talking to people all wrong and suddenly we are all Russian bots, or trolls, or secretly Trumpers cause true friends (good followers) should just accept them as already perfect like they see themselves.

Ugh.

Wait when did Biden abuse his powers to prevent fascism?

Currently he's creating a comfy transition for one to become president.

USA didn't fight against fascism when it fought against Nazi Germany and literally fascist Italy because Laos and NATO

Lmao wat

...That Biden specifically helped put there with his drug and police laws.

Finished that sentence for you.

Hakeem Jeffries is still the main Democrat who directly backed and supported Eric Adams in his bid for NYC Mayor and when asked about the indictment said this:

We need Eric Adams to be successful as mayor because he is the mayor

Jeffries is just another Pelosi and was picked because he doesn't care either. He won't apparently try for better just enough to make sure they keep as much power as they can.

Let's face it for elites.... They are not American, they are Elites that use America as their playground
... The Biden tanked the Harris campaign out of spite and don't care who gets in as it doesn't really affect them.

These are extremely rich people..... Unless we are in Red China, they have nothing to fear

Cheers to that!

I think we need to be done being talked down to by liberals who at the end of the day don't actually care or feel a need to act.

It’s part of America’s foreign policy, which means there’s literally nothing we can do about.

incorrect we did exactly what we needed to do. we fired him for it (among other reasons). unfortunately harris didn't pick up on the message and as a result also wasnt hired as a result. enjoy your fascism.

Pssh. I mean, I voted. I did my part. Millions others though didn't.

I don't why lemmy people find it so hard to not blame the DNC and actually blame the people who either voted for fascism or did nothing to stop it. Maybe because some of them are the very same as the latter.

Cause it's not productive and doesn't do anything.

We can blame the people that voted for it and not for it all we want but they are a manifestation of other issues. There is not a specific person you can blame when the numbers hit the millions. It becomes useless musing.

People don't think like you. Just you. It then becomes on us and those that lead and aim to gather the support of others to figure out why they didn't reach more.

He could still pardon them all, it's not like his hand would cramp from signing too many papers! Go through, one by one, and pardon them all.

And all the people on federal death row, that Trump is going to kill.

And all the people with federal marijuana charges.

And people like Leonard Peltier and Julian Assange while he's at it.

What's stopping him?

I don't disagree with why, I do disagree with the timing. Yes, it was a hardline issue and yes the Dems should have absolutely done whatever they could to deal with it. What I cannot and will never forgive is risking the fucking planet by placing a very likely dictator into the seat of global military superiority. Fucking vote Harris in and then we have four years of dropkicking every politician we see to deal with it.

Now there is every chance that conflict will worsen, or end abruptly.

Four years to work together and make positive change by not constantly bickering. Instead we have several States and governers vouching to protect our rights and your fucking neighbors against the President and his cronies.

Gaza AND Ukraine are important. We should do what we can do. Fucking Trump though and his evil passing posse of terrible twats?? Come the fuck on. That was NOT the correct direction, my dude. Four god damned years and instead you all chose January.

What a disappointment.