I wouldn't have a problem with China deploying as part of a peacekeeping force. Indeed I'd welcome them.

Several reasons:

1. It shows that they have a stake in what is happening.

2. It would piss off Putin and maybe China would try to discourage Russia from breaking any truce.

3. It would REALLY, REALLY piss off the Great Orange and hopefully make him realise that the world can do without the USA in many things.

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And #China 🇨🇳 *never* ‘misses a trick’🃏in the ‘game’ of #geopolitics.

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russia took crimea with "little green men": unaffiliated troops

turn around on that tactic would be hilarious

but it doesn't have to happen that way

china already dominates outer manchuria demographically and economically

it doesn't have to be all out war, de facto world understanding of the obvious is all that has to happen

let the ethnofascists and imperialists in moscow whine all they want

they are approaching impotence on the matter, and many other matters

on the contrary, i'm wondering if #finland is ready to take back #karelia and if #turkey can move into #circassia

what i'm telling you is that #russia is in serious decay on all topics

you are absolutely correct, now

but in 5, 10, 20 years?

@Wyatt_H_Knott @X31Andy

yes, they are nothing but a war state now

and they are being ground down

at a slow rate, but a steady rate nonetheless

and after they are ground down enough, they have literally nothing, but a giant implosion

it's not happening soon, but long term, it's an inevitability

well yes

but "us support" is now a joke

both russia and the usa are now incoherent undependable farces

you don't build anything on that

you're just describing details of an ongoing death spiral

@hakona @Wyatt_H_Knott @X31Andy

you're speaking as if the idea of usa support is not also a fucking joke now

and i am not saying any of this is happening tomorrow

i am looking 10-20 years down the road

@Wyatt_H_Knott @X31Andy

then recognize "russia stronk" is true today, but also, it is going away

@Wyatt_H_Knott @X31Andy

zero argument

and i'm saying china and europe both recognize that

i'm not saying it's a going to be unicorns and rainbows, and never remotely implied that

i'm just pointing out where the bumpy road is leading

@X31Andy You're acting like there's going to be some kind of ongoing international order while the United States is COLLAPSING.

I get that we have an over-inflated sense of our own self-worth, but there's no way we slide tinto obscurity without taking the world down with us, one way or another.

Sorry, that's pessimistic, I know, but I see this administration as a world-existential crisis, not just some trouble with American Democracy.

@hakona @Wyatt_H_Knott @X31Andy

zero argument

but you better do better than the usa

(and i think you can)

I've been wondering if China really wants a Russia strengthened by the U.S.

I doubt they do, but still have no idea what side they may take.

@hakona @Wyatt_H_Knott @X31Andy

europe i believe in you

i kind of have to 😅

we'll do our best over here to unfuck the usa

hopefully see you in 2029 on those terms

or at least stall with a 2027 big dem showup

gotta get the nonvoters to get off their fucking asses

@hakona @Wyatt_H_Knott

I remember someone saying that if they voted him in they would never need to vote again.

How sure are you about 2029?

i hope they can see outer manchuria is theirs de facto (not legal) without firing a shot

and i hope some in beijing are quietly more invested in that idea than taiwan

shame of tsushima sent russia into civil war

shame of afghanistan sent the ussr into extinction

the shame of ukraine strong is still playing out

we don't see the real russia, all media is controlled

i could be wrong

maybe too many russians are ethnofascist zombies

but even they can get frustrated

the arab spring in recent memory- strongmen few doubted evaporated overnight

syria finally played out with, note: russia's decay

it's slow

but it can happen

@X31Andy @hakona @Wyatt_H_Knott

man all you can do is move forward

i'm not going to assume we'll be in concentration camps in 2029, not because it won't happen, but because we fight in whatever the situation

so part of me is thinking this pessimism is a route to preemptive capitulation

just fight man. you'll need to fight in whatever the situation anyways. so don't get gloomy and fearful. be a happy warrior

if that sounds glib, what you're suggesting is something far worse than glib

sure but who knows how any of this will play out

all hail the coming india-usa world axis

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i'm pulling that out of my ass but my point is simple:

fundamental things are shifting no one can say for certain, so don't be too pessimistic (or too optimistic)

@Wyatt_H_Knott @hakona @X31Andy @blogdiva Has anyone started a pool yet for what this looks like in three years?

Honestly, my gaze keeps shifting to Japan as our best bulwark. Not joking. And not something a Korean (even hapa) says lightly.

@dnkboston @Wyatt_H_Knott @hakona @X31Andy @blogdiva

i don't know, but japan is very quiet

not because they aren't doing anything

and south korea isn't stupid

i expect both of them to be laser focused on taiwan

@zakalwe @hakona @blogdiva @X31Andy @dnkboston @Wyatt_H_Knott

the usa won't drop the ball on taiwan

the usa will grab the ball, lick it, incoherently complain about something "woke," and then shit its pants

@Wyatt_H_Knott @hakona @X31Andy @blogdiva You know who's eerily quiet? China. It almost makes me want to resubscribe to the Economist, because they actually report on internal Chinese news. Japanese news is out there--NHK does a good job.

South Korea is...busy. They hadn't figured out how to thread the needle when Yoon pulled his BS, and the Liberal Party is going to be over-the-top into China when they come in.

Only saving grace with Taiwan is China's fear or urban warfare. :(

@Wyatt_H_Knott @dnkboston @hakona @X31Andy @blogdiva

i've always said:

Ukraine will not be joining NATO

NATO will be joining Ukraine

Ukraine is the greatest fighting force on the planet now

well yes, because what you're really saying is china's leadership is sane

there is no "western realism" for example in the usa, we're speedrunning caligula level descent into insane decay

and russia is a fucking rabid ethnofascist den of crypt creatures

europe is divided, but with the usa's recent implosion, it is finding strong motivation to get more realistic

@Alephwyr

no argument except that the usa is far far worse off than you depict

@Alephwyr

Why is Europe divided?

Brexit was a coup by Putin, but except for bit players (Hungary, Slovakia) the rest are pretty much united.

The UK is definitely coming back, and from Sweden to Spain, all the major nations are pretty much united in their desire to keep Russia away. Italy may be a problem in the future, but, for the moment Meloni seems smart enough to shut her mouth and go with the flow.

@JustinMac84 @Alephwyr

The UK will come around. I am sure Vladimir P. will be very persuasive.

I mean, this is the guy who convinced Sweden and Finland, two very neutral countries, to join NATO. I am almost certain he can convince the UK to rejoin the EU.

If China keeps stealing glaciers from India and sandbars from the Philippines, China can go fuck itself.

If China coopts Outer Manchuria from Russia I'll throw them a parade myself.

@X31Andy @hakona @Wyatt_H_Knott

So the invasions of Tibet, India, Vietnam and the military expansion in the South China Sea don't count? And that's just since the communists took over China.

@hakona @Wyatt_H_Knott China wants stability, security and guaranteed access to materials/food. Mass famines are still in living memory.

Historically they have not been expansionist except where they border Russia. I don't think things have changed too much.

With that in mind Europe could (cautiously) do a deal with them leaving Russia to sort their own issues out on the border and Trump to froth at the mouth as he realises he is becoming an irrelevance.

@hakona @Wyatt_H_Knott @X31Andy

I mean she's conservative but Norway conservative is probably far left USA. Norway into the EU works for me. But I'm way out of my depth here, I don't know enough about her

@VikingChieftain @Dianora @Wyatt_H_Knott @X31Andy

Unfortunately, and a Finn can correct me if I'm wrong, and as is true with much of Russian colonialism, most of Karelians got uprooted

But I'm not thinking about reverse imperialism here so much as Russia falling apart and others rushing in for security and nuclear security

@Dianora @Wyatt_H_Knott @X31Andy

Oh, the Finns already did the "reverse Winter War":

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continua…

But if Russia collapses, I can see a negotiation between Finland and whoever comes after Putin about the status of Karelia (at least the part that used to belong to Finland, because there's also a Russian Karelia).

1941–1944 Finnish war against USSR

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