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I don't believe that anyone is intrinsically or essentially evil. If we believed they they were intrinsically evil, we could not hold them responsible for the evil that they do, because they could not help it.

But people do things which are evil. People do things which are evil often because they did not sufficiently think ahead, and consider the consequences of their actions. And people do things which are evil sometimes because others who have authority over them tell them to. >>>

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in reply to Simon Brooke

But if you do evil because you had not foreseen the evil consequences of your actions, or if you do evil because you were 'just obeying orders', can you escape responsibility for the evil you have done?

And if you, as a person in authority, order others to do evil, is your culpability just the some of the evil which they do, or do you have additional culpability for the evil you have done in corrupting them?

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in reply to Simon Brooke

To bring this discussion down to concrete reality, if you are a pilot or observer flying an RAF aeroplane out of Akrotiri in Cyprus on surveillance flights over #Gaza, in the aftermath of #October7th, being told that you're seeking evidence of where #hostages are being held, what responsibility do you have to ask who the intelligence you gather is being shared with?

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And if you keep flying over #Gaza daily, month after month, at what stage are you morally required to notice that the damage to civilian buildings over which you are flying is utterly disproportionate? At what stage are you required to say to your commanding officer, 'what is being done here is a #WarCrime and I can no longer take part in it'?

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in reply to Simon Brooke

As a commanding officer in the #RAF chain of command, on being told by those whom you command that they are observing evidence of #WarCrime being committed by those to whom you are passing information, at what stage are you morally derelict if you keep passing on the information? At what stage are you required to stop ordering those flights?

#GazaGenocide
#Complicity

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in reply to Simon Brooke

And, as a #UK politician -- a Prime Minister, say -- on hearing evidence that #Genocide is being carried out in #Gaza by people -- the #IDF -- to whom information is being shared by your #RAF officers conducting daily surveillance flights over the territory, at what stage are you morally obliged to stop those flights? At what stage are you morally obliged to order an investigation into how deep the culpability of British officers for this #GazaGenocide goes?

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It's easy to see how we got into this mess. In the immediate aftermath of #October7th, responding to an #Israeli request for surveillance support to try to locate hostages is very understandable.

But surely, at some point, somewhere up or down the chain, someone must have had the courage, the decency, the simple human understanding of complicity and guilt, to say 'no more! This cannot go on.'

Surely?

#GazaGenocide
#Complicity

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in reply to Simon Brooke

unfortunately we are saddled with a hollow man as a prime minister, who has no principles and a apparently very few morals to guide him, and who is easily manipulated because he has no ideas of his own.

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