sub.club Emerges to Offer Paid Fediverse Subscriptions
sub.club is an emergent new platform for paid subscriptions in the #Fediverse. It's simple, smooth, and easy to use.
sub.club Emerges to Offer Paid Fediverse Subscriptions
Historically speaking, the act of financially supporting creatives on the Fediverse has always been something of a pain point. The network lacks a meaningful payment layer, and most of the network’s iSean Tilley (We Distribute)
silverpill
in reply to Sean Tilley • • •@fediverse
Why did't you mention Mitra, the open source and fully decentralized Fediverse service that also offers paid subscriptions, and which has been around for several years?
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Sean Tilley
in reply to silverpill • • •Probably because, to my knowledge:
I'm not trying to slight Mitra in any way, shape, or form, but my focus for this article was scoped to one thing in particular.
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in reply to Sean Tilley • • •Anuj Ahooja
in reply to silverpill • • •I'm not a co-author of this article. I contribute to WD but did not contribute to this article as it would be a conflict of interest irt my relationship with the project.
Share your info with kindness instead of anger. We're all trying to educate and build together, and good-faith conversations go a lot further than assuming the worst of everyone.
Sean has never written a piece with the intent to erase history, and he works incredibly hard to keep things accurate.
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in reply to Anuj Ahooja • • •wedistribute.org/2024/03/activ…
In another article @deadsuperhero talked about nomadic identity and Mike Macgirvin's efforts to implement it in ActivityPub, but similarly failed to mention another project that implements it (Mitra) and the person who wrote the spec (me).
At least my work was mentioned in a footnote. In the current article it is completely ignored.
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Sean Tilley
in reply to silverpill • • •Dude, listen. I am one person running a volunteer news project for free. I try my best to stay on top of researching the space, but there's no reasonable way for me to catch everything. I've written 200+ articles at this point, but due to a combination of factors, I struggle to get more than one article out per week at times. I regularly juggle a backlog of 40+ drafts at any given moment. Add a dash of burnout and fatigue, and you'll start to get a clearer picture: it's hard to keep up, and only getting harder.
There's no way for me to reasonably catch everything. Mitra's a cool project and all, but it's tiny enough that I've heard relatively little about it. There are dozens of projects out there at this point, and new ones everyday. If you're not advertising the thing you're building and what it does, there's a high chance I might miss it.
I keep an eye on the FEP developments from time to time, and I applaud all you've accomplished with that. However, the existence of a spec does not necessarily mean that platforms out there are necessarily implementing each and every one of them.
silverpill
in reply to Sean Tilley • • •@fediverse FEP-ef61 is what Mike was implementing and rolled out in production this summer. It's not like we didn't advertise that. All work on this FEP (and ones that precede it) was done in public channels, it's really hard to miss if you're interested in nomadic identity.
Give @weekinfediverse a follow. It provides a concise summary of what is happening in Fediverse
Blurry Moon
in reply to silverpill • • •Sean Tilley
in reply to silverpill • • •Most efforts haven't moved beyond the planning stages. Just because you can point to a plugin or a FEP spec doesn't mean that it's an ongoing active effort for bring a payment layer to the Fediverse, with a consumer-facing tool or platform. I'm sorry if I didn't catch that Mitra had some of that functionality, but I would also push back and say that the average person is not going to use Monero for payments on the Web anytime soon.
Those PeerTube plugins are nice, and the Premium Users one was actually something I pointed @quillmatiq@mastodon.social to for sub.club, as an example of prior art. They're interesting experiments, possibly useful integrations, but not in and of themselves actual platforms to build infrastructure and solutions on.
silverpill
in reply to Sean Tilley • • •@fediverse Protocols described in these FEPs are currency-agnostic and developers can build actual platforms and solutions on them (as I did). This is the only ongoing effort to bring a payment layer to the Fediverse - there are no alternative proposals. FEP-8c3f was withdrawn in favor of FEP-0ea0.
Okay, you didn't know about it. But now you do and it would be nice to include at least some of that information in the article.