How come criminal psychopaths run the place?
No more than 1% of the popn & typically marginalised by their communities, today's criminal psychopaths have organised to an unprecedented level (via the internet, for all its goods)
For psychopaths, power is everything. Money is just a means to it
They have no empathy, so no conscience.
The disorder is so far incurable; only we can stop them.
Even chimps throw out bully leaders.
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#USPol #Europol #psychopathy #oligarchy .
Sociopaths and why we elect them
Trump's supporters have fallen for his narcissistic, sociopathic traits – voting for him because they believe he is a hero and the only person equipped to save America.Independent Australia
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Rodentia
in reply to DrALJONES • • •Psychopath here
It's a good question and good points, but perhaps a better question is why we allow organizations and political parties to behave like they are psychopaths. We have MBA programs that teach business people to behave like psychopaths, and we reward and celebrate it. Wall Street is a whole institutional embodiment of psychopathy, and we treat this like it is not only normal, but salutory
So yeah individual psychopaths are a concern, but, fuck, we have a whole industry
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DrALJONES
in reply to Rodentia • • •Re "why we allow organizations... to behave like they are psychopaths"
So the point of my article was why so many people support psychopathic behaviour - there's always got to be something in it for the fan base, eg, magas.
So, to your point, the more we support them, the more opportunistic non-psychopaths will emulate their behaviour.
As you'd know, not all psychopaths do harm. It's the bad behaviour that matters here, not the genetics.
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Sociopaths and why we elect them
Independent AustraliaRodentia
in reply to DrALJONES • • •I like and agree with your article, and also agree with your observation that not all psychopaths do harm. Or, at least not the big ticket harm. I manipulate people out of pure reflex, and I am exactly the callous, un-empathetic, and remorseless person described in the texts, but I can also adopt my own set of principles that recognize that distress is bad and should be prevented and that people should be given dignity and care.
I would urge you to also examine what I describe though
DrALJONES
in reply to Rodentia • • •@psychoM3
Would you clarify?
When you say, "I would urge you to also examine what I describe though":
Which elements: "why we allow" or "behave like they are", or "we have a whole industry"?
Rodentia
in reply to DrALJONES • • •Sorry for the confusion.
I mean that I would love you to do a companion article that focuses on the way many corporates act as though they are psychopaths and actively encourage and reward it in their managers, and also how MBA programs actively teach and formalize this.
DrALJONES
in reply to Rodentia • • •@psychoM3
Re "the way many corporates act as though they are psychopaths & actively encourage... & how MBA programs actively teach & formalize this."
I see what you're saying, but my guess would be that, after decades of internet-facilitated organising, those institutions are being run by *actual* psychopaths simply doing their thing....
And loads of books have aleady been written on that.
Violet Madder
in reply to DrALJONES • • •Ferocity is viewed as industrious. Success and power are seen not just as strength but virtue.
Questioning the virtues of those with wealth and power means questioning the benevolence of any god. So people give too much leeway to abusers because they're trying to avoid cognitive dissonance and the existential crisis lurking under it.
And after enough time spent behaving this way, it's normalized. Conditioned.
And the people who fuss too much get punished.
And we sit here expectantly, like frogs in a pot. It's a mental gif I have now, a bunch of cartoon frogs jammed into a pot and their little eyeballs twitch looking back and forth at each other with blankly frozen frowns and none of them saying a word.
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DrALJONES
in reply to Violet Madder • • •@violetmadder
Re "So people give too much leeway to abusers because they're trying to avoid cognitive dissonance and the existential crisis lurking under it."
Yes, it's at a point of serious neurosis
@psychoM3
GRASSY KNOWLES
in reply to Violet Madder • • •@violetmadder @psychoM3 My 5¢ (iron slugs):
Like the bronze age collapse, we do our part to deny copper and rare earths (including tin) against the god - kings.
from Kali:
BEHOLD WE ARE BECOME DISOBEDIENCE DESOLATION AND ABOMINATION
THE DESTROYER OF GODS
#scortchedearth
#killtheboer
#blockgps
#boycottusa
Boycott
with extreme prejudice
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leftofcentre
in reply to DrALJONES • • •DrALJONES
in reply to leftofcentre • • •@leftofcentre
Re "appropriate"
Appropriate for what purpose, more specifically?
Or another French revolution perhaps?
leftofcentre
in reply to DrALJONES • • •Public shaming and trying to ignore the take over will just make it worse
DrALJONES
in reply to leftofcentre • • •@leftofcentre
I asked "Appropriate for what purpose, more specifically?"
starting with "than" isn't answering the question. No matter, though; just sayin. 🙂
leftofcentre
in reply to DrALJONES • • •The revolution wouldn't be bad either, the wealth accumulation is out of the charts
DrALJONES
in reply to leftofcentre • • •@leftofcentre
So you're suggesting doing away with with diagnosed p'paths, despite the fact that we can't identify the cohort, bcz they don't seek disgnosis, etc... & certainly wouldn't, knowing the consequences.... ?
Seriously? 🤷♀️
leftofcentre
in reply to DrALJONES • • •'the ones sick with power and adulation'
DrALJONES
in reply to leftofcentre • • •@leftofcentre
Sorry, you're not getting the point. Diagnosis isn't remotely likely for the vast majority, and of course you can't do away with whoever you like anyway.
🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
No more from me on this
leftofcentre
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in reply to DrALJONES • • •Jo - pièce de résistance
in reply to DrALJONES • • •not sure where they get that 1% figure. I think it’s much higher. Certainly over 25%. We’ve been breeding them for a while. Allowed them to flourish. Raised them up as heroes.
This is the typical and common boss, landlord, abusive bf/husband, police…almost everyone with the slightest amount of power.
We have a world where people strive to be better THAN, rather than better, where people live for supremacy. All this fascism is bc there are many. The patriarchy is psychopathic.
Brian Gordon
in reply to Jo - pièce de résistance • • •@JoBlakely
The best estimates that I’ve seen are that ~1% of the population are actual sociopaths, ie people lacking a conscience, empathy, etc. Another ~15% have weak consciences and empathy and they can do real evil if activated (as Trump has).
Capitalism sorts the sociopaths to the top. First Past the Post electoral systems tend to, too.
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DrALJONES
in reply to Brian Gordon • • •Yes, good point.
@JoBlakely
Court Cantrell prefers not to
in reply to Brian Gordon • • •@elasticsoul @JoBlakely Came here to mention capitalism if nobody else did.
The capitalist mindset is one of MORE MORE MORE WHATEVER THE COST. In this system, "the cost" = "every person who gets in the way of what I want." Elevating the most callous of us was always inevitable.
DrALJONES
in reply to Court Cantrell prefers not to • • •@courtcan
Yes, agree. Imo, capitalism is a late form of patriarchy.
@elasticsoul @JoBlakely
DrALJONES
in reply to Jo - pièce de résistance • • •@JoBlakely
Take your point, but it's important to distinguish between the genetically small number of people with the psychopathy neurotype and those who just behave badly for various other reasons.
Re patriarchy, there's a compelling argument for it being traumatogenic, ie, it can cause trauma in people but not inevitably (as in "carcinogenic"). Imo, it has been the main cause of human suffering and eco damage since its inception 6 millennia ago.