Mozilla has a new CEO and he just announced that Firefox will evolve into a modern AI browser. This is a good example of how management doesn’t understand its own user base and why they go out of their way to install Firefox on Windows, Android, iOS and other devices.
Full blog post blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/le…
Mozilla’s Next Chapter: Building the World’s Most Trusted Software Company
Today, Anthony Enzor-DeMeo step into the role of CEO of Mozilla Corporation, focusing on becoming the trusted software company.Rebecca Smith (The Mozilla Blog)
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Barry Rowlingson
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Stefan Ritter
in reply to Barry Rowlingson • • •Sjoerd Stendahl
in reply to Stefan Ritter • • •@gideonstar @geospacedman At this point I have more faith in Servo than Ladybird.
Politics aside, Servo is more modular as an engine, and thus more useful for alternative browsers. Also, Servo is build for performance, Ladybird will always be behind here.
Feels a bit like backing Ladybird over Servo makes the same mistake as backing Bluesky over Mastadon. That is, the notion that the problem is purely bad leadership, and not with the monilithic centralized structure itself.
elverkonge
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in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Nazo
in reply to Atanas • • •@AtanasE Yes. There are two thoughts on this:
Nazo
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Oh screw the frick out of this.
I knew Mozilla would wreck Firefox, but I thought we'd at least have a bit more time. Servo isn't really fully here yet and not really a daily driver yet and Chromium is probably going to do the same crap.
We just needed a bit more time before their brains popped and they went full on brain slug stupid. We were so close!
I guess we'll have to rely on forks to completely take over making a browser now. That's... beyond the scope of most forks and their already overworked devs.
Frick this.
Travis
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •🇪🇺 LΞX/NØVΛ
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Another dumb ass from the AI cult.
Firefox is officially signing it's death certificate.
it's @servo and #ladybug call, now or never at open web will be dead if they don't
NekomancerNina 🐈⬛ (hiatus🪫)
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Robin Adams
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Plug for @Vivaldi as the only browser I know of with no AI (not even opt-in)
And @StartpageSearch as the search engine with no AI
Lisa
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Rafa Font 🌻 🇪🇺 🏀
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Hello @Vivaldi Warm up, you're up next
(as my browser)
Max
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in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •s94
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Kerplunk
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Another Mozilla Bullshit statement.
They already purchased an advertizing company to diversify revenue.
Firefox will evolve in to a modern AI, Artificially Idiotic Browser.
We will grow through transparent monetization, well that would be a real big change, and as for trust, look at the market share, it reflects the perfect management work from Leech Mitchel Baker.
She managed to take millions while weakening the product and sacking developers.
Trust, ha ha ha
Myster Ty - Prince sans rire
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •WHAT THE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
BURN TO HELL FIREFOX'S CEO !!!!!!!!!
Skjeggtroll
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •I'm almost impressed at the "monetization that people value" line. That's some high-level verbal effluence that is.
I might understand your monetization, I might even in some cases accept it, but money going from me to you is never something I _value_, and I'm at least 78% certain that I count as "people".
Patty 6-7. I have no idea...
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in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •killick
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Mozilla, I don't want AI in Firefox.
I don't want AI in the app I use for banking.
I don't what AI in the app I use for shopping.
I don't want AI in the app I use to contact my health care providers.
I don't what AI in the app I use to contact insurers.
I don't want AI in search results.
Seriously, Moz, what the hell you you think people use Firefox to do? I don't need it to perform party tricks!
Sepia Fan
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in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •The browser will soon have an updated name.
Farfetched.
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IHateFireworks
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •LightningToaster
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •The real gist of why it's OK for Firefox to implement AI in the browser: (unfortunately) most people using Google Chrome expect this nowadays and will find the browser lacking "smart" features when they make that switch. Think about how average John uses their browser.
A few years back, my first small step into fully embracing FOSS for my digital life was Firefox, and this step very low-key because Firefox didn't differ that much functionally from Chrome. This is important.
Ivan Tsenov 🇧🇬 🇺🇦
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •filobus
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •It isn't inevitable, but will it be anyway?
It is certainly possible to use a browser without ai
Is there a (narrow) path were it is possible to use ai anyway and choosing not to use it? (considering market, investments needed, corporate/business world)
I have no answers, and not much hope
GhostOnTheHalfShell
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •I really hate migrating from app to app not that I’m unfamiliar with the process, but the day is coming, where I have to move to a different browser.
I’m fine with Safari on my Apple iPad because it’s too much hassle otherwise but on the desktop, I’m gonna have to find something different than Firefox
sb arms & legs
in reply to GhostOnTheHalfShell • • •Many great FF forks out there still, such as #LibreWolf!
uhuru
in reply to sb arms & legs • • •@sb @GhostOnTheHalfShell
couple of months ago, compiled a list of FF and ff-based web browsers.
and others. (not chromium-based).
kafeneio.social/@uhuru/1154248…
uhuru
2025-10-23 18:22:16
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dcatoffm
in reply to uhuru • • •Which of those are hard forked (not relying on anything upstream anymore)?
I know @palemoon is but I'm not knowledgeable of the others.
huntingdon
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Mozilla's new "CEO" has an MBA, but no open source experience. His goal is to transform the most popular independent browser into a platform for AI. And to "diversify" into the realm "beyond search." Things none of its current users want.
He's Mozilla's board's answer to the question of how stupid does it think its user base is.
There's a reason Toby the Devil welcomes so many new entrants to hell. But this guy will start a whole new category. Fuck him.
Brokar
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •"It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions"
Another company which thinks that's needed to rule the world.
People want a trustworthy browser which does exactly that: browse. Nothing more. Certainly not a bunch of crappy AI infested eco system apps nobody needs, like Microsoft or Google.
But i guess the managers know better than the users. Well they'll learn about that when everybody leaves.
Niavy
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in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •zetabeta
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •i heard that mozilla corporation is basically investment company for tech stuff, and most tech stuff these days is probably ai slop bull poo.
so maybe, mozilla does not go after what they are invested in, therefore they put this ai slop non-sense into mozilla products.
mozilla corporation is different than mozilla non-profit organization.
it feels like that mozilla is replacing alphabet inc's money with ai money and income.
Nicole Parsons
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Ianto Jones
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •I'm curious whether a significant portion of their user base actually complained to them about this direction. I and my nerdy cohorts on Mastodon despise what they're doing, but did they hear it? Or are they blatantly ignoring their customers?
With that said I've been getting a huge "WE CAN'T BE LEFT BEHIND" smell of panic from Mozilla, so I'd bet they *did* hear complaints but feel as though excluding AI (or "not increasing its footprint") would be their death knell.
nick
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •what is a "modern AI browser"?
Isn't this like saying your car needs to be a avant-garde dining experience?
Andy Wootton
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in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •C.H.
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •@librewolf
chaos.social/@librewolf/115716…
#IronFox
vielleicht ist der #Ladybird Browser bald fertig.
#FireFox ist damit wohl Tod
LibreWolf
2025-12-14 08:11:14
wrath0110
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in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •heavyboots
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •It did finally inspire me to install #LibreWolf, so that's cool, I guess?
For macOS users, if you have brew installed already, it's just…
brew install --cask librewolf
But then you also need to do an xattr thing to de-quarantine it from the OS, plus a thing to allow extensions to use biometrics (if that's a thing you're doing).
The de-quarantine thing is:
xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/LibreWolf.app
Quinn
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •DonCC
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in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Fionor
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •maybe it's time for various Linux distributions to stop putting Firefox as default browser after installation...
I mean, good riddance.
Meredith karlye
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •You S Blues
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •NA
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Big Kumera Energy
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •ok well here's one response to this crap
opencollective.com/servo
#enshittification #mozilla #aislop
Servo - Open Collective
opencollective.comDavΞ
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •@iveyline
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •squalouJenkins
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •I hate this, i use librewolf, but I must say I understand the CEO : why would he care the userbase when it's less than 5% marketshare. He must be looking at other browsers users, those legions of llm daily users.
Wait and see, it would not survive anyway without an attempt, as long as clean forks exist.
Mensch, Marina
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Leonid
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Rihards Olups
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Dear @mozilla, regarding this topic - where do you read feedback?
Just wondering where to send a well crafted message to suggest stuffing "AI browser" up your new CEO.
Erika
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Distante
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •mastodon.social/@Distante/1157…
Distante
2025-12-17 06:40:27
tessela.is
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Jor ☝️😐
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •It is not that they don’t understand. They understand very well.
They have been sabotaging Firefox deliberately for years, because they are corrupt : their money comes from Google. 😬
Un Bourguignon
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Dunkle McPhee (Metalboy) ☠️
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Bodling
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •What a coincidence! This comes right before I evolve into a FORMER Firefox user!!
#firefox #mozilla #browsers
Joe
in reply to nixCraft 🐧 • • •Mozilla Firefox vs Ladybird Web Browser - Professional Software Comparison | Sugggest
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