The fediverse has arrived at WordPress.com ❤️
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thanks @mattwiebe and #wordpressdotcom and #Automattic and all other contributors!!!
This is amazing!!!
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The fediverse has arrived at WordPress.com.Matthias Pfefferle (WordPress.com News)
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •Good news, but...
why didn't wordpress.com itself enable federation on this blog's account ? At least with me this entry is not federating....
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I guess the issue you were having previously with it being a paid-only feature has been fixed :)
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •everytime this has been brought up over the past couple of months I've asked the same question:
What is WP's privacy policy for visitors to content hosted on WP? Last time I checked only WP account holders are explicitly named.
I don't really expect an answer but I do want to give everyone, WP users and non, pause for thought about the implications of accessing content on WP.
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in reply to Theriac • • •Theriac
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •if you are a WP user, WP has a stated privacy policy where it lists data that will be collected from its users.
What I'm asking about is the data of non users, say a someone on the #fediverse following a link to a post on WP. I haven't checked since the topic first popped up on the #fediverse announcing WP were working towards being here, and at that time there was no mention WP's attitude to data collection from non-users. As it stood WP could take as little or as much as it wanted.
If WP's policy remains unchanged now its presence here is a reality, I'm suggesting it's fair to put them in the same "assume the worst case scenario" basket as #facebook, #twitter, #instagram, #google and #reddit regarding data mining.
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I've posted elsewhere on the thread so rather than repeat here and still answer your question -
When the idea of WP on the #fediverse was first floated there was no mention of what data WP took from interactions with non users, and what they did with that data.
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in reply to Theriac • • •Yeah, I don't understand. By "non-users" you mean "people without a WP fedi account"? They don't have access to anything from your account that they can't get from just crawling ActivityPub, because ActivityPub doesn't give them access to anything else.
Them hosting a federated software doesn't give them access to any additional information they didn't already have. From their users, or anyone else's users. You don't need to read their Privacy Policy for this, it's just how AP works.
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the gist is this:
there are 2 people - A and B.
A has a WP account and writes a post there, then links that in a post on the #fediverse.
B who simply clicks on the link to view A's post is accessing content on WP.
WP has a privacy statement where it defines what users can expect which A agrees to by dint of having his own account.
B has signed or agreed to nothing.
My concern is for B's user data.
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That's the crux. What is the treatment? Is it full Facebook/Google Stasi levels of spying and if not, where is it clearly stated what WP will do?
Given that the #fediverse is the antithesis of web 2.0 and they have just linked to it, surely WP took this into consideration.
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two things i noticed on the still few blogs i’m following, maybe they’re still experimenting with the plugin but…
Mostly the discover happen when the owners share once their blog AP address from within a mastodon account, which in theory they don’t even have to have.
This is also a great option for subscribing to a blog you didn’t know that was on the fediverse
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in reply to Luca Sironi • • •Ben Carlsson
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •“ActivityPub is a WordPress plugin that facilitates seamless integration between your blog and a host of federated platforms”
That’s claiming quite a bit of credit 🥲
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •Awesome! Now just make it part of the downloadable WordPress version by default as well!
I still miss the early days of blogging when pingbacks used to work!
Just ensure this can't be easily taken advantage of. That's why pingbacks and comments have been disabled by most as of now.
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in reply to onreact • • •@onreact fyi: wordpress.org/plugins/webmenti…
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in reply to pancake :verified: • • •you can try my blog, but it's german @notiz.blog or matts @mattwiebe.blog or @alex or @jeremy
If you search for more #wordpress blogs, maybe this is a nice address fedidb.org/software/wordpress
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •I didn't know this was coming to non-Business sites, so this is amazing. I activated it immediately on my blog.
After testing though, I realized that one of the "fine-grained controls" not available to non-Business sites is the ability to restrict the AP content to just excerpts. This is quite a dealbreaker for me as I'd rather not have my articles being syndicated in full. Am I missing something or is this really not available for configuration? I'll reluctantly disable AP for my site in the meantime.
Perhaps for other bloggers it's not as much of a big deal, so this is still great news. Thanks for working on this. 🍻
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •I am wondering about how it will work on Wordpress, as far as I know, you cannot just delete the ActivityPub without a proper remove like tootctl self-destruct command to not leave cache on another server and if you did forget, it would do a funky thing especially if you use the same domain.
So I wonder if the Wordpres plug-in already thinks about this problem and if it is safe to install and uninstall the plug-in without any problem.
Thank you in advance for your reply
Matthias Pfefferle
in reply to dokter • • •@dokter this is indeed a good point. The plugin currently does not support a complete wipe out. It should be easy doable on WordPress.com but is really tricky on self installed versions.
Can you maybe file a GitHub issue for that?
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •Done. I hope in the future release it will implemented.
The only thing that concerns me is not installing the plug-in to my self-hosted WordPress due to this problem.
If in the future I have to move my host will it break my ActivityPub federation, comments on my blog, etc.
Since connection to ActivityPub is good and it will put a new breath to WordPress since the blog will be back as a blog since people can comment and discuss something not just a static site.
Michal Špondr
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •Is there any running example of Wordpress with ActivityPub plugin enabled so I can test how it works from user point of view?
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in reply to Michal Špondr • • •Steffen Voß
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •Wie folge ich denn jetzt bspw. wordpress.com/blog/ - Unten in der Ecke ist ein Block "Follow" - aber der scheint damit nichts zu tun zu haben.
Gibt es irgendwo eine Übersicht der Blogs von Wordpress.com, denen ich folgen könnte?
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in reply to Steffen Voß • • •Steffen Voß
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •Aber generell kann ich nicht einfach nach @wordpres.com suchen und bekomme dann Blogs angezeigt, denen ich folgen kann, oder?
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in reply to Steffen Voß • • •Steffen Voß
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •Noch wird mir da kein Profil angezeigt, aber es haben ja auch noch nicht alle eingeschaltet UND etwas gepostet.
Cool wäre es, wenn es einen Account gebe, der neue Blogs im Fediverse "begrüßt" - also meldet, wenn jemand das Feature anschaltet.
Bei mir läuft es übrigens unter @blog - self-hosted.
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in reply to Steffen Voß • • •@kaffeeringe Great stuff! I look forward to many more blogs to get there fediverse presence!
Follow-up q about authors: it’s so far not possible to “hide” authors, right? And only those with existing posts are visible?
I have two cases in mind. An old author that might distract from newer ones. And - more importantly - a silent admin account that should stay invisible.
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in reply to Ben Sahlmueller • • •@b3n @kaffeeringe there are two modes that you can combine. We introduced a blog-user that represents the whole blog and we have authors (all author has his profile in the fediverse).
* Only Blog-User enabled: Blog user federates all posts regardless of the author
* Only Authors: every post will be federated using the author account
* Both enabled: every post will be federated using the author account and the blog user boosts that post.
Maybe option one fits for you?
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle • • •Just made aware of the plug-in and set it up for my blog. Is there any possibility to edit the blog profile on Mastodon? I wanted to delete a post, change the profile picture and add something to the bio. #WordPress #ActivityPub
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