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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

wonderful! I had a feeling this was imminent when I saw @pfefferle experimenting with a wp.com blog on his timeline :P
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

I'm glad WordPress has added this as an option for WordPress.com sites. A plugin has been available for self-hosted WordPress installs. I've been running it on my personal site and it works nicely: @jonathan. I have it set up that if someone replies in Mastodon it will show up in a comment on the site and vice-versa.
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

Fantastic news! Congrats and thank you for your work getting to this point!
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

does the latest iteration allow for replies to the comments directly from the blog account to be federated? Or is that still planned for a future version? Either way. This is awesome and I'm super glad it exists.
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

still half assed though by auttomatic. Better plugins exist that let you choose an already existing account rather than adding another wordpress account to the millions already out there with an obscure name
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

cc: @bracken

I guess the issue you were having previously with it being a paid-only feature has been fixed :)

in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

“In addition, replies to your posts from these platforms are automatically turned into comments on your WordPress blog, creating a more interactive and dynamic conversation around your content. Synchronicity for the win!” 🎉
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

fantastic work, Matthias! I ended up moving up to a paid plan while I was waiting for this to arrive on dotcom (and, I'll stay on that), but I am really excited to see Wordpress join the rest of the #fediverse!
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Matthias Pfefferle
@MrGR @Gargron für alle tarife (mit kleinen einschränkungen)
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Matthias Pfefferle
@Rch it makes totally sense, we talked about that lately and our colleague @alex already build a plugin wordpress.org/plugins/enable-m…
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

everytime this has been brought up over the past couple of months I've asked the same question:

What is WP's privacy policy for visitors to content hosted on WP? Last time I checked only WP account holders are explicitly named.

I don't really expect an answer but I do want to give everyone, WP users and non, pause for thought about the implications of accessing content on WP.

in reply to Theriac

@Theriac I am not sure I understand your question correctly (correct me if not), but currently WordPress only supports public content and ignores everything else.
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

if you are a WP user, WP has a stated privacy policy where it lists data that will be collected from its users.

What I'm asking about is the data of non users, say a someone on the #fediverse following a link to a post on WP. I haven't checked since the topic first popped up on the #fediverse announcing WP were working towards being here, and at that time there was no mention WP's attitude to data collection from non-users. As it stood WP could take as little or as much as it wanted.

If WP's policy remains unchanged now its presence here is a reality, I'm suggesting it's fair to put them in the same "assume the worst case scenario" basket as #facebook, #twitter, #instagram, #google and #reddit regarding data mining.

in reply to Theriac

I'm not sure what you're asking. WP's privacy policy is detailed on their website and if you follow a link to their website, they will collect the same information as they would from anyone else following a link, regardless of whether it comes from fedi, or anywhere else.
in reply to President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho

@DeShawnFranco
I've posted elsewhere on the thread so rather than repeat here and still answer your question -

When the idea of WP on the #fediverse was first floated there was no mention of what data WP took from interactions with non users, and what they did with that data.

in reply to Theriac

Yeah, I don't understand. By "non-users" you mean "people without a WP fedi account"? They don't have access to anything from your account that they can't get from just crawling ActivityPub, because ActivityPub doesn't give them access to anything else.

Them hosting a federated software doesn't give them access to any additional information they didn't already have. From their users, or anyone else's users. You don't need to read their Privacy Policy for this, it's just how AP works.

in reply to President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho

@DeShawnFranco

the gist is this:

there are 2 people - A and B.

A has a WP account and writes a post there, then links that in a post on the #fediverse.

B who simply clicks on the link to view A's post is accessing content on WP.

WP has a privacy statement where it defines what users can expect which A agrees to by dint of having his own account.

B has signed or agreed to nothing.

My concern is for B's user data.

in reply to President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho

@DeShawnFranco

That's the crux. What is the treatment? Is it full Facebook/Google Stasi levels of spying and if not, where is it clearly stated what WP will do?

Given that the #fediverse is the antithesis of web 2.0 and they have just linked to it, surely WP took this into consideration.

in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

@Gargron oooh might be time to move myself off blogger - which while still working does seem to have been abandoned by Google - I'm forever anticipating that 'oh we killed that' update.
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

Not yet working for me. My site appears when I search for it on Mastodon, but for some reason it requires approval to follow, yet no request is sent. I'm sure it'll be ironed out soon.
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in reply to Marc

@imarc I was able to follow @imarc.co.uk ok from my Mastodon account here, didn't see anything about follow approval
in reply to Matt Wiebe

It's showing 0 followers, are you still following? What happens for me is: it appears to follow, but when I reload, it acts as if I have a request pending.
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in reply to Marc

@imarc @Callistobeast we're looking into it! Just tried a potential fix that didn't work.
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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

@steven yup we think you'll like a custom domain better but it works just fine as `somesubdomain.wordpress.com@somesubdomain.wordpress.com` on a free site.
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

Very cool and many thanks. Does this mean the plugin is out of beta now?
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

Thanks for work. The plugin worked great even though I am not on WordPress.com 🙌 Just hooked it up today! @christine@christine-seeman.com
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

That's awesome. Anybody used it yet? What if you already have a domain for your blog?
in reply to Luca Sironi

hello

@pfefferle @mattwiebe

two things i noticed on the still few blogs i’m following, maybe they’re still experimenting with the plugin but…

  • from their websites i don’t see in evidence somewhere, something like a predefined ‘about’ page with the activitypub name and the like.

Mostly the discover happen when the owners share once their blog AP address from within a mastodon account, which in theory they don’t even have to have.

  • if you try to comment a blog article from the website, would be cool to be presented with an option “comment /likefrom a fediverse account” that will popup the usual way

This is also a great option for subscribing to a blog you didn’t know that was on the fediverse

in reply to Luca Sironi

@luca that is a really good point. we have the onboarding flow on top of our list and I will add "predefined pages”! thanks for the feedback!
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

“ActivityPub is a WordPress plugin that facilitates seamless integration between your blog and a host of federated platforms”

That’s claiming quite a bit of credit 🥲

in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

Awesome! Now just make it part of the downloadable WordPress version by default as well!

I still miss the early days of blogging when pingbacks used to work!

Just ensure this can't be easily taken advantage of. That's why pingbacks and comments have been disabled by most as of now.

in reply to onreact

@onreact fyi: wordpress.org/plugins/webmenti…

#pingback #microformat

in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

any wordpress instance with this plugin around to test as a reader? Can we search for them somehow?
in reply to pancake :verified:

you can try my blog, but it's german @notiz.blog or matts @mattwiebe.blog or @alex or @jeremy

If you search for more #wordpress blogs, maybe this is a nice address fedidb.org/software/wordpress

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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

I didn't know this was coming to non-Business sites, so this is amazing. I activated it immediately on my blog.

After testing though, I realized that one of the "fine-grained controls" not available to non-Business sites is the ability to restrict the AP content to just excerpts. This is quite a dealbreaker for me as I'd rather not have my articles being syndicated in full. Am I missing something or is this really not available for configuration? I'll reluctantly disable AP for my site in the meantime.

Perhaps for other bloggers it's not as much of a big deal, so this is still great news. Thanks for working on this. 🍻

in reply to D.J. Ramones

@djramones this is the first version and we are not done yet, I will add your request to the list! :)
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

oh that's just awesome!! I was ready to accept that Automattic would just paywall that setting 😅
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

I am wondering about how it will work on Wordpress, as far as I know, you cannot just delete the ActivityPub without a proper remove like tootctl self-destruct command to not leave cache on another server and if you did forget, it would do a funky thing especially if you use the same domain.

So I wonder if the Wordpres plug-in already thinks about this problem and if it is safe to install and uninstall the plug-in without any problem.

Thank you in advance for your reply

in reply to dokter

@dokter this is indeed a good point. The plugin currently does not support a complete wipe out. It should be easy doable on WordPress.com but is really tricky on self installed versions.

Can you maybe file a GitHub issue for that?

in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

Done. I hope in the future release it will implemented.
The only thing that concerns me is not installing the plug-in to my self-hosted WordPress due to this problem.

If in the future I have to move my host will it break my ActivityPub federation, comments on my blog, etc.

Since connection to ActivityPub is good and it will put a new breath to WordPress since the blog will be back as a blog since people can comment and discuss something not just a static site.

in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

Sehr cool!
Wie folge ich denn jetzt bspw. wordpress.com/blog/ - Unten in der Ecke ist ein Block "Follow" - aber der scheint damit nichts zu tun zu haben.
Gibt es irgendwo eine Übersicht der Blogs von Wordpress.com, denen ich folgen könnte?
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

Ach was. Nicht peinlich. Die Alternative wäre gewesen, das Feature für alle zu verzögern, weil das eigene Blog noch nicht umgestellt ist.
Aber generell kann ich nicht einfach nach @wordpres.com suchen und bekomme dann Blogs angezeigt, denen ich folgen kann, oder?
in reply to Steffen Voß

@kaffeeringe wenn du das @ weg lässt sollte es klappen. aber nur für die, die eine subdomain benutzen.
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

Noch wird mir da kein Profil angezeigt, aber es haben ja auch noch nicht alle eingeschaltet UND etwas gepostet.

Cool wäre es, wenn es einen Account gebe, der neue Blogs im Fediverse "begrüßt" - also meldet, wenn jemand das Feature anschaltet.

Bei mir läuft es übrigens unter @blog - self-hosted.

in reply to Steffen Voß

@kaffeeringe Great stuff! I look forward to many more blogs to get there fediverse presence!

Follow-up q about authors: it’s so far not possible to “hide” authors, right? And only those with existing posts are visible?

I have two cases in mind. An old author that might distract from newer ones. And - more importantly - a silent admin account that should stay invisible.

in reply to Ben Sahlmueller

@b3n @kaffeeringe there are two modes that you can combine. We introduced a blog-user that represents the whole blog and we have authors (all author has his profile in the fediverse).

* Only Blog-User enabled: Blog user federates all posts regardless of the author
* Only Authors: every post will be federated using the author account
* Both enabled: every post will be federated using the author account and the blog user boosts that post.

Maybe option one fits for you?

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in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

Very helpful!
Just made aware of the plug-in and set it up for my blog. Is there any possibility to edit the blog profile on Mastodon? I wanted to delete a post, change the profile picture and add something to the bio. #WordPress #ActivityPub
in reply to Matthias Pfefferle

That's awesome. I run a few WordPress sites. I will look into integrating my Mastodon instance.