Random poll:
Would you visit the US in it's current state? Either for vacation or travel. For Americans, imagine you would visit your country from somewhere else
#US
- Yes (2%, 150 votes)
- No (95%, 5312 votes)
- I don't know (2%, 124 votes)
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Random poll:
Would you visit the US in it's current state? Either for vacation or travel. For Americans, imagine you would visit your country from somewhere else
#US
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Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE
in reply to stux⚡ • • •There are at least three showstopper reasons now, in the order in which they manifested themselves, any one of which would be sufficient to keep me away on its own:
(1) the guns
(2) the plague [on the plane to get there]
(3) the nazis who are now running the place
Vysogota
in reply to Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE • • •C++ Wage Slave
in reply to Vysogota • • •@petko @TimWardCam
This ↑ and this ↑↑.
The poll could do with a "hell, no" option. 😄
Crumbee
in reply to Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE • • •@TimWardCam
Nailed it.
As a military brat I never thought it would get this bad.
The past 30 years have been a nightmare of hope and shear terror.
Looking at retirement outside of the US at this point and urging others to stay away.
𝙎𝙩𝙤𝙢𝙖𝙩𝙖 🥼🧫
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Alex
in reply to stux⚡ • • •S.R.3
in reply to stux⚡ • • •was invited to a wedding there this year, I didn't go.
Sorry cousin 😔
Judgment Dave
in reply to stux⚡ • • •JustaJason 🦜
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Sebastian
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I’d not want to go there for the best part of last 20 years, to be honest. Expensive, obnoxious and starting to look like a 3rd world country in most of its parts.
I still believe there are absolutely beautiful natural wonders in there but… Nah, thanks!🫣
Grahame Gardner 🏴
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in reply to stux⚡ • • •I wasn't ever going to visit the US since cheney was VP.
I'm not a terrorist, I just don't like dirty Dicks.
Vysogota
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Alexander Diemand 💚
in reply to stux⚡ • • •(sorry for being cynical)
Ryan
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Mrs Raven
in reply to stux⚡ • • •No, and I live here.
Here in the US we do another kind of calculation. I don't travel to red States, for example.
I put Florida and Texas on my "no fly" list after 2000.
BedastGPT
in reply to stux⚡ • • •As an American, I tell folks to avoid the US. If they must travel here, I tell them to leave their personal devices (phones, computers, etc) at home and purchase temporary replacements upon arrival, while visiting, which they will get rid of before leaving (don't cross the border with any devices).
Can't be scrutinized for secretly criticizing this government if they have no devices to scan.
Dickon Hood
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in reply to stux⚡ • • •Landsil
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I feel like I should quantify my answer by saying I'm a white straight male.
And I said No, mostly because:
GinevraCat
in reply to stux⚡ • • •grayrattus
in reply to stux⚡ • • •No thank youm
If #ICE seen my mastodon profile, they would put me to #Guantanamo or better straight to alligator #alcatraz.
Margret Kuarell
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Kasper Nymand
in reply to stux⚡ • • •J. R. DePriest :EA DATA. SF:
in reply to stux⚡ • • •if I could get out, I wouldn't come back under this regime or its ideals, possibly ever.
It's always been "guilty until proven innocent" for some, but if you were the right color, had the right accent, wore right clothing, and knew what to say and how to say it, you never had to acknowledge it or worry about it.
I admit that my unexamined privilege hobbled me for years. It took far too long for me to understand the depths of the hatred and superiority at the core of our government. I—wrongly—believed anyone could speak up and be heard if they did it the right way.
That was never true. It was a comfortable lie that most of us could believe.
Do not come here.
It's not safe for anyone except oligarchs. Think of us as a wannabe Russia.
Miia Mustang
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I view visiting US similarily to Russia.
Both have places I would love to visit, but neither country is safe for foreign trans people to visit.
So no, not visiting the US any time soon. ._.
Chris Hessert
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱
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in reply to stux⚡ • • •If I were to leave I don't think I'd ever want to come back. I would want to see family I'd leave behind, but I don't feel good about this place anymore. The regime would have to change, and through a massive social awakening and not just playing along with the script set up by the P25 people. Otherwise I'd actually have this constant fear they'd be coming to get me someday...so fuck ever going back.
It''s been tempting me of late. I could probably pull it off.
I don't know. Maybe.
frater mus
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Unknown parent • • •@Pinchy63 I don't blame you. To be fair, I don't think the American /people/ feel that way about Canada. The current administration and its cult are obnoxious/dangerous/lawless but before MAGA I don't think I ever heard an unkind word about Canada or her people. To the degree things Canadian were a topic of conversation it was usually about Canadian politeness and the pronounciation of "about".
I hope the rift between the US and Canada (and everyone else MAGA has pissed off) can be healed in time and with intentional effort on our part.
tripleman, a 🇨🇦 in 🇩🇪
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I haven't been to the US (and have avoided US products as much as possible) since 2003 (illegal invasion of Iraq).
I said at the time that I wouldn't change my stance until the US pulled its head out of its ass.
So, yeah, I haven't changed my stance.
Njord
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in reply to stux⚡ • • •No.
TBH, it's been many years since I would have contemplated going there for fun, but I have been on a few business trips over the years.
If my employer were to ask me to go there now I would politely refuse.
book_dragon
in reply to stux⚡ • • •TagHunt
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Leela Torres
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Nowadays it's dangerous because everyone could vanish in a deportation prison.
arosano 🇩🇰 🇮🇱
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Der GRIMM
in reply to stux⚡ • • •el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦
in reply to stux⚡ • • •No.
I think I could be held in custody and expelled just because of my political beliefs.
And I fear being held in custody much more than being expelled.
Jay Day Parade
in reply to stux⚡ • • •jan Ki | 奇
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Helge Wurst
in reply to stux⚡ • • •It was a profound, amazing experience. And even then, I'm not seeing myself returning any time soon.
I Laugh At Morons
in reply to stux⚡ • • •i'd prefer to invade it and install a puppet regime
What's good for the goose....
JamesB192
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Isaac Ji Kuo
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in reply to stux⚡ • • •not if I have to travel by air. Otherwise, the US is pretty huge; it's a mistake to consider it so monolithically.
I live in the US and there are parts of the country that I have no interest in visiting, but others that are pretty amazing and are largely unaffected by political BS
Benjohn
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Mike Fraser
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in reply to stux⚡ • • •You forgot in your poll
o Hm?
o You kidding me?
o Dare ask me that again!
o In your dreams, buddy!
o You fell on your head?
SpaceLifeForm
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Space Catitude 🚀
in reply to stux⚡ • • •(I am a natural born US citizen)
Nope. I would counsel you to postpone. Or attend events virtually.
I don't think the USA is the most dangerous country to visit even now, but it's not good, and I do think things will get better within five years.
So if you don't absolutely need to be here now, I'd steer clear. Canada and Mexico have a lot to offer. Consider going to one of them!
miki
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Wynke
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I voted 'no', it may be 'no unless' but I can't think of conditions under which I would right now.
I would most definitely not take my teenage daughter there though.
Yora
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC
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in reply to stux⚡ • • •No way, I would like not to be killed
Hugz & xXx
Philip De Norr
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Apriloq - Jingle Half the Way
in reply to stux⚡ • • •there is beauty in simplicity
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in reply to stux⚡ • • •❄️SnowyIn🇨🇦❄️
in reply to stux⚡ • • •...and the gun violence...!
Kirk
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Pete Prodoehl 🍕
in reply to stux⚡ • • •James Just James
in reply to stux⚡ • • •s/Americans/United Statesians/
Waves from Canada and Mexico and ...
Alex, the Hearth Fire
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I'm trans, Jewish, and invisibly disabled.
I'm moving in with my wife in Canada as soon as I'm allowed to, and not coming back to visit until my border crossing paranoia becomes unjustified.
BoneHo-ho-houseWasps🔶🇬🇧🇪🇺
in reply to stux⚡ • • •No. And we have family there who we were supposed to be visiting this Christmas.
But a) I have published academic work critical of the regime and b) I've got a non gender conforming 13 year old with neither fear nor filter.
So, no - I don't think it's safe for my family to visit.
Nate
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I hail from the US, and I am trying to think of this fairly. I think it depends on your reason for travel, and what your plans are for while you are in the country.
Would I recommend coming here for a conference? No, I would boycott that hardcore.
Would I recommend a student come here for a study abroad semester? No, there are legitimate safety concerns.
Myself, I am a lover of the natural world. Just as I would brave a trip to Iran to see the mountains, or Nepal, or visit Argentina to see Patagonia, I feel like there are ecosystems and geological areas in the US that are worth seeing. Take your pick from the Redwood forest, the temperate rain forest of the Pacific Northwest, the Yellowstone geological area, Jenny Lake in Wyoming, Lake Superior or the backwoods regions of Appalachia or the great northern woods of Maine. And that isn't even counting Alaska. I would risk travel here to see our National Parks, particularly on the chance that they are at risk of going away.
I would also like to make a case to the rest of the world that we aren't all Nazis or bo
... show moreI hail from the US, and I am trying to think of this fairly. I think it depends on your reason for travel, and what your plans are for while you are in the country.
Would I recommend coming here for a conference? No, I would boycott that hardcore.
Would I recommend a student come here for a study abroad semester? No, there are legitimate safety concerns.
Myself, I am a lover of the natural world. Just as I would brave a trip to Iran to see the mountains, or Nepal, or visit Argentina to see Patagonia, I feel like there are ecosystems and geological areas in the US that are worth seeing. Take your pick from the Redwood forest, the temperate rain forest of the Pacific Northwest, the Yellowstone geological area, Jenny Lake in Wyoming, Lake Superior or the backwoods regions of Appalachia or the great northern woods of Maine. And that isn't even counting Alaska. I would risk travel here to see our National Parks, particularly on the chance that they are at risk of going away.
I would also like to make a case to the rest of the world that we aren't all Nazis or bootlickers. In fact a lot of us are downright progressive, and doing our best to right the ship.
All that said I do understand why the poll results swing in the direction that they do. I just find it sad.
Luna chan
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in reply to stux⚡ • • •I would not only visit the US in the current state but would love to be a US citizen if the opportunity comes because sooner or later things are gonna change.
You folks have no idea how bad the majority of countries are when it comes to the standard of living and human rights.
Fediverse can be an echo chamber.
Mark Wyner Won’t Comply
in reply to stux⚡ • • •JdeBP
in reply to frater mus • • •@fratermus @Pinchy63
Per #GuardTheLeaf and others, it alas *is* the people, in their millions.
It's not just the government shouting at Canadians to fuck off back where they came from. It's not just the government blaming #Canada for supposedly instigating this. Or trying to deflect onto the exchange rate. Or #FlagJacking.
It's ordinary people, at sporting events, on the roads, and on the news.
A mere change of government won't fix this.
#BoycottUSA #ElbowsUp #USPolitics
I’m Tired And Everything Hurts
in reply to stux⚡ • • •DJGummikuh
in reply to stux⚡ • • •kjuh 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇩🇪🌻
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Even “before” the us wasn‘t exactly one of my favourite destinations…
Murenius
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in reply to stux⚡ • • •Dgar
in reply to stux⚡ • • •I've said for a long time now, I won't visit the US unless they manage to go for 24 months without a mass shooting.
Aint gonna happen.
Cy
in reply to Dgar • • •You've seen what they've been doing to immigrants around here, and it's the shootings you're worried about? 😕
Don't visit the US.
CC: @stux@mstdn.social
Dgar
in reply to Cy • • •Roy
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Please stay away so you don't come to possible harm here.
And you should spend you time and money in countries that don't cause harm and chaos in the world.
Jennifer
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Ignacio (he) 🇺🇦🇸🇩
in reply to stux⚡ • • •If I were given 100 million € to visit United States, I would say: "I'd rather prefer to be given 100 € to visit Sudan or Afghanistan, which are way safer than the US".
It doesn't matter when you read this.
JimmyB (he/him)
in reply to stux⚡ • • •Agent Joséphine Baker
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@energisch_
My friend from Bolivia took the plane from Frankfurt to La Paz just because he did not want a stop in the US. That should be reason enough for others, that are no migrants, to boycot the US! Show your solidarity! Feel the fear of people chased by Trump!
DirtWood
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