having succeeded in purchasing positions of influence inside the White House, the billionaires and tech VCs have now set their sights back on Wikipedia
"[Wikipedia] deserves 0$ until they rebalance." - a sentence that shows complete absence on understanding how wikipedia works.
"They" includes everyone, as wikipedia is the encyclopedia everyone can edit.
And the donations go to the WM foundation, that has no control about the content.
The content is made by volunteers that have nothing to do with the donations.
While the USA can force authors and admins with a residence in the US to anything, these authors and admins will be overruled by english language authors and admins in Canada, australia, britain, ireland and many other locations.
It seems that both groups (the billionaires and MAGApoliticians on the one side and the employees of the WMF on the other side) are completely unaware that it is unavoidable, that trumpmusk destroys Wikipedia, as Wikipedia cannot be forced into submission with any less severe action.
this is a pivotal moment. They really want to destroy information and truth. With that gone, they can convince anyone of anything. The world would be theirs. They are also idiots. Defund Wikipedia? It's not publicly funded you awkward gesturing car maker
I can't work out if this is a sinister attempt to rewrite reality in a way that suits them. Or if they are so deluded they actually believe what they're saying.
Yep. Fascism doesn’t elevate great “thinkers” It elevates followers & then throws them off a balcony if they dare to think. They share tRumps dreams of power, shame at being excluded & anger at the world but past that the majority are voids. #USPol @rhm
@catsalad Thankfully, the wikimedia foundation is funded for years to come. The edit wars I just saw flashing before my eyes are a whole other beast, though.
Coincidentally, I was just listening to a report about a sock puppet zoo revising history on German Wikipedia. Chilling stuff, but also a boost to respect towards serious Wikipedia editors. ardaudiothek.de/episode/socken… (in German)
Wikipedia – die freie Enzyklopädie, die Wissen für alle zugänglich macht – hat die Welt verändert. Doch hinter der schlichten Fassade aus blauen Hyperlinks und einer Puzzlekugel verbirgt sich ein ständiger Kampf: um Information, Kontrolle und ja, auc…
Wasn't there some effort a few years ago to launch a "conservative wikipedia" alternative? Didn't it fail spectacularly? I'm hoping that I didn't imagine that.
Wow, Chamath is all in .. . First he programed you so he could become a billionaire and get a seat at the table, now he's doing what ever he can so they don't kick his PoC body out of the country.
I find it funny that the term "God given gift to think for yourself," is uttered. You can only think for yourself because an imaginative force gave you permission to do so.
"Foundation AI models are being trained on this data..." Well, then don't. I'm sure he can get some great content from "X - The Everything App" instead to train their models.
But Wikipedia is mostly politics nowadays and no neutral source. At least when you want to inform yourself about some history, countries or public people. In tech stuff I didn't found issues yet (but I use Wikipedia very rarely)
They should channels their efforts and attack this. bls.go
The amount of utter bullshit published monthly by the US Department of Labor has more utility than the sum of any other bullshit alive. It has ALL the trappings of weaponized bullshit including providing the Fed with reason to rob 90% of you blind while you engage in needless discourse.
Is it possible to be among the richest & at the same time dumbest persons on Earth?
Elon Musk for sure feels compelled to prove it by personal example, to attract some more attention.
They're feeling the unpostponable urge to ban books & information so the masses wouldn't be able to claim superior knowledge compared to natural-born billionaire goofballs.
[Btw, it's still not officially confirmed if the Liar-In-Chief will spend less than one whole year playing with taxpayers' dollars on one of his notorious, laundered-money-funded goof courses this time. 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑]
When people like that set out to suppress "ideology", with no reasonable argument as to why its only ideology, what they're saying is that their wealth and power are the only things that should matter and they are tired or dealing with inconvenient facts.
They represent "the natural order" and anything that would elicit disapproval of them is unnatural "ideology". #SocialDarwinism #nazi #oligarchy
Wikipedia shouldn’t be seen as an arbiter of truth. That’s why teachers try to hammer it in to students that you can’t just cite Wikipedia as a source. However I would take the vetted words of the community over whatever Elon Musk says any day.
you know what's truly mind boggling - it's the American ignorance of the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD. Even if Wikipedia was bias towards some side of American clown politics the value it adds to the rest of the world just blows all of these meme issues to complete and utter irrelevance.
Never understood why these people think Wikipedia is heavily biased when I would argue it's one of the most neutral sites on the Internet, never once bending in favor of one political ideology. Wikipedia is not and never was perfect, but in an era where most people will easily fall for blatant lies and half-truths, the site and related platforms are kind of a necessity.
I guess it's important to not have your lies fact-checked.
Technical question: Does anyone know how and were wikipedia is hosted ? Ie: does it replicate its data to alternative jurisdictions (ie: outside of the US) in case the oligarchs manage to get it blocked / brought down ?
if the sources aren't credible enough for them, their energy should be on making the sources more credible.
The apparent rage might be as simple as site visit ranking and popular kids are falling, so have to pick on the nerdy one that is below them (for now). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o…
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@markwyner @kiwix I have it locally on my computer and a trimmed version on my phone
Other wikis (like travel wiki or educational materials of various sorts) can also be put on Kiwix. There are also ways to convert websites in general (most/some)
Vincent Maurin
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in reply to Molly White • • •C.Suthorn
in reply to Molly White • • •"[Wikipedia] deserves 0$ until they rebalance." - a sentence that shows complete absence on understanding how wikipedia works.
"They" includes everyone, as wikipedia is the encyclopedia everyone can edit.
And the donations go to the WM foundation, that has no control about the content.
The content is made by volunteers that have nothing to do with the donations.
While the USA can force authors and admins with a residence in the US to anything, these authors and admins will be overruled by english language authors and admins in Canada, australia, britain, ireland and many other locations.
It seems that both groups (the billionaires and MAGApoliticians on the one side and the employees of the WMF on the other side) are completely unaware that it is unavoidable, that trumpmusk destroys Wikipedia, as Wikipedia cannot be forced into submission with any less severe action.
Ronan
in reply to Molly White • • •They are also idiots. Defund Wikipedia? It's not publicly funded you awkward gesturing car maker
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in reply to Molly White • • •@catsalad Thankfully, the wikimedia foundation is funded for years to come. The edit wars I just saw flashing before my eyes are a whole other beast, though.
Coincidentally, I was just listening to a report about a sock puppet zoo revising history on German Wikipedia. Chilling stuff, but also a boost to respect towards serious Wikipedia editors. ardaudiothek.de/episode/socken… (in German)
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in reply to Molly White • • •Europe or somebody needs to offer a home to these institutions, they are not safe in the US.
#Wikipedia
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in reply to Molly White • • •whatever happened to "businesses have a right".
oh right, they don't actually care at all.
I think they don't even suggest a "balanced" new 'pedia because they don't want Wikipedia to exist at all.
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in reply to Molly White • • •Wow, Chamath is all in .. .
First he programed you so he could become a billionaire and get a seat at the table, now he's doing what ever he can so they don't kick his PoC body out of the country.
.. nice try ..
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in reply to Molly White • • •In tech stuff I didn't found issues yet (but I use Wikipedia very rarely)
Cove67
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in reply to Molly White • • •They should channels their efforts and attack this. bls.go
The amount of utter bullshit published monthly by the US Department of Labor has more utility than the sum of any other bullshit alive. It has ALL the trappings of weaponized bullshit including providing the Fed with reason to rob 90% of you blind while you engage in needless discourse.
Derek Caelin is writing a book
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in reply to Molly White • • •Is it possible to be among the richest & at the same time dumbest persons on Earth?
Elon Musk for sure feels compelled to prove it by personal example, to attract some more attention.
They're feeling the unpostponable urge to ban books & information so the masses wouldn't be able to claim superior knowledge compared to natural-born billionaire goofballs.
[Btw, it's still not officially confirmed if the Liar-In-Chief will spend less than one whole year playing with taxpayers' dollars on one of his notorious, laundered-money-funded goof courses this time. 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑]
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in reply to Molly White • • •When people like that set out to suppress "ideology", with no reasonable argument as to why its only ideology, what they're saying is that their wealth and power are the only things that should matter and they are tired or dealing with inconvenient facts.
They represent "the natural order" and anything that would elicit disapproval of them is unnatural "ideology".
#SocialDarwinism #nazi #oligarchy
Edan Osborne 🇺🇦🇵🇸♾️
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in reply to Molly White • • •I was just doing some research on Wikipedia.
It is an invaluable resource for fighting disinformation and getting expert knowledge.
Specifically on when sexual dimorphism occurs during prenatal development.
(Hint: it isn’t at the time of conception)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline…
Timeline of human prenatal development - Wikipedia
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Mike Johnston
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in reply to Molly White • • •Wikipedia's bullshit to bulltruth ratio is superb. Wikipedia does "lie" but its way, way worse at it than anyone else.
I'd put wikipedia on lists that include the great wall and the Apollo missions.
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in reply to Molly White • • •Even if Wikipedia was bias towards some side of American clown politics the value it adds to the rest of the world just blows all of these meme issues to complete and utter irrelevance.
Avi Rappoport (avirr)
in reply to Molly White • • •“Foundation AI models are being trained on this biased data as if it's ground truth”
There’s an easy solution to that.
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in reply to Molly White • • •I guess it's important to not have your lies fact-checked.
Technical question: Does anyone know how and were wikipedia is hosted ? Ie: does it replicate its data to alternative jurisdictions (ie: outside of the US) in case the oligarchs manage to get it blocked / brought down ?
Spoofer3
in reply to Molly White • • •if the sources aren't credible enough for them, their energy should be on making the sources more credible.
The apparent rage might be as simple as site visit ranking and popular kids are falling, so have to pick on the nerdy one that is below them (for now). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o…
Wikimedia list article
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Noel Kelly
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[citations needed]
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in reply to Molly White • • •Mark Wyner Won’t Comply
in reply to Molly White • • •just in case, you can download Wikipedia. Literally.
I used @kiwix for this, so now I have it locally on my computer. It’s amazing software.
kiwix.org/
#Wikipedia #Information #Data
Explore Offline Wikipedia and Educational Content with Kiwix- Kiwix
KiwixHowToPhil
in reply to Mark Wyner Won’t Comply • • •@markwyner @kiwix I have it locally on my computer and a trimmed version on my phone
Other wikis (like travel wiki or educational materials of various sorts) can also be put on Kiwix. There are also ways to convert websites in general (most/some)
Mark Wyner Won’t Comply
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Mos def. I downloaded some important docs on medicine, field guides, machinery fixing, etc. Kiwix is amazing.
@molly0xfff @kiwix
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