[news] Did you know that there are now more than 40 plugins available for #PeerTube instance administrators? To support the installation of these plugins, we have just created a new page in which we will often highlight a plugin selection.
➡️ https://joinpeertube.org/en/news#plugins-selection-1
➡️ https://joinpeertube.org/en/news#plugins-selection-1
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Unknown parent • •Exactly! It will be a game changer like it was for youtube. Can't wait for people to be incentivized to produce more and more content, regardless of the quality, just so that they can make more money. Imagine how awesome peertube will then be: videos you can't watch because you are too poor; videos that are clickbaity so that people pay to watch them. Can't wait! :)
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Unknown parent • •And third: if all works well, and I start making money, then I know that the faster I produce videos and the more of them, the more money I make. So I'll probably make less scientific videos, more clickbaity, release them faster, so I pay for that car I want to buy. It is a very very bad incentive.
So, if I could run a simulation of a popular Peertube instance that is pay-per-view, I am sure I will see a Peertube instance full of crappy videos. Same as youtube....
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Unknown parent • •Patreon is good if it is used as a donation platform and not a market platform where you can "buy" access and all that. As soon as that happens it kinda ruins everything and incentivizes "creators" to do more for those who pay, and less for everyone else. It is a form of prostitution: I give you this, if you give me that. They call them "perks" today but that's kinda what it is.
Advertising is bad but that's just one of the practices of trade. Is the Apple model better? And if so why? Is Netflix better than Youtube? Are pieces of software that limit the usability and offer premium accounts, better? I wou... show more
Patreon is good if it is used as a donation platform and not a market platform where you can "buy" access and all that. As soon as that happens it kinda ruins everything and incentivizes "creators" to do more for those who pay, and less for everyone else. It is a form of prostitution: I give you this, if you give me that. They call them "perks" today but that's kinda what it is.
Advertising is bad but that's just one of the practices of trade. Is the Apple model better? And if so why? Is Netflix better than Youtube? Are pieces of software that limit the usability and offer premium accounts, better? I would argue all of these are equally as bad.
We create lots of content, see here https://www.tromsite.com and here https://www.tromsite.com/tools - and we never asked for anything in return. We rely 100% on donations, and that allowed us to keep ourselves sane and honest and to produce good quality stuff. But we do the same as archive.org, wiikipedia, and indeed peertube and other such projects that rely on donations only.
If Peertube would ask you to pay for more features, else you won't get them, it would hinder its progress and stop others from using it.
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Unknown parent • •It is simple tho. If I make videos but only show to those who pay me, I will be incentivized to maximize my gain because I too am trapped in a world of consumerism and I want that new iPhone and that new car, or I have to pay for my rent. And so, I will try to get more money from you by making more content to maximize the viewers.
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Unknown parent • •Why are ads bad when it comes to incentivize creators to click bait?
It is because they want more people to click their videos, since more views = more money.
Then how is it different when you hide your videos behind paywalls? Isn't it the same story, where more views (viewers) = more money? So isn't it the same incentive to click bait? To get more people to subscribe to your paid model?
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Unknown parent • •You have any examples?
Donations are a volunteer act, not forced. Paywalls are still a volunteer act, but without knowing exactly what you pay for. This is why is easier to scam people when they don't even see your content before paying for it.
Big sponsors tend to have a big influence over the organization they sponsor. See Linux with Microsoft and the like. See any scientific paper that comes with a red flag if it is ever sponsored by someone.
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