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Still looking for the right community for this meme


I get the vibe "lefty memes" is a misnomer, and an actual progressive like me won't be accepted here, so I've never tried posting anything in here yet - but everywhere else I've posted this so far has hated it, so I'm trying here now.

I made this meme because I noticed parallels in how Republicans and Democrats coordinate to block access to guns and vaccines, violating my rights and putting me and my loved ones in senseless danger.

I'm not quite ready to give up on finding a community where people like this meme. I know it's actually one of my most well-crafted ones yet, no matter what some people say.


Image text (Morpheus meme format, repurposed to represent US uniparty politics, not blindly misused without understanding it as some commenters keep saying)

Red pill:

Let people who pretend to know nothing about vaccines decide who can get what vaccines


Blue pill:

Let people who pretend to know nothing about guns decide who can get what guns


Red pill:

Let the weapon industry dictate gun policy


Blue pill:

Let big pharma dictate vaccine policy
in reply to whoever loves Digit πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

Seems like you're conflating red pill (lie) versus blue pill (truth) with red pill (Republican ideals) versus blue pill (Democrat ideals). Is this close to what the idea is trying for? If so, that's probably the real reason people don't like what you've made, because it doesn't really fit the format of the original and thus doesn't really make much sense.
in reply to viral.vegabond

I wish you were right.

I can't think of a way to repurpose the meme with a more fitting format, but if you could, I believe you'd get similar responses. I think it's basically just Democrats hating being called out for violating my rights because they support gun control and, on the other hand, they prefer blaming Republicans for blocking me from accessing vaccines.

Not about the meme's format, but the message itself, sadly.

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in reply to whoever loves Digit πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

I think those seem like two separate and unrelated issues. Separate each of them into their own argument and they would probably make a little more sense, and fit the format better.

Example 1 (vaccine argument):
red pill (lie) = people who are telling you they know everything about vaccines and they should be the ones who decide who gets what
blue pill (truth) = big pharma is the real perpetrator, influencing policy makers and controlling who gets the vaccines (etc.)

Example 2 (gun control argument):
red pill (lie) = people who know nothing about guns are trying to decide who can have them
blue pill (truth) = the weapon industry is actually the ones dictating gun policy

Adjust the wording to fit whatever it is you are trying to say, and separate the issues into truth versus lie instead of red (republican) versus blue (democrat).

in reply to viral.vegabond

But that wouldn't show how the parties mirror each other from the view of a neutral third party just trying to survive.

The point is to make Republicans think about how they look the same as Democrats when they join in on blocking me from getting guns, and vice versa for Democrats because they join in on blocking me from getting vaccines. They both complain about the other side lying and replacing experts with fools in important positions, but they both go along with it when the money says, leaving people like me far from restoring our rights.

The message would be totally lost if they were separated

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in reply to Figlizard

Ok so called "leftist," now you've finished your transformation into an anti vaxxer?

I'm so tired of Democrats just being Republicans in disguise

in reply to whoever loves Digit πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

This is where I'm coming from too, it just doesn't really make sense to me as a meme? Maybe that other meme format with the sweating captain trying to decide which button to push
in reply to Remy Rose

That's actually a great suggestion, thank you muchly. I might try that
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in reply to whoever loves Digit πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

I get your point and it's not a bad one, I just believe that despite how well crafted the meme is, people reject it because that's not how the Matrix reference works at all
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in reply to алсааас [she/they]

I just can't think of a template that would be better for this. Maybe I should just try a template that's more directly fitting, even if it doesn't seem "better" to me, in case I'm just reading the situation wrong
in reply to алсааас [she/they]

It's also begging the question. OP thinks "gun experts" are people who own a lot of guns, and violence epidemiology is oppressive because it says things about his collection of toys. I know this because they've been posting the same meme over and over again for days. OP is not expressing a principled stance about class struggles and the role of an armed proletariat therein. They're a right wing troll doing thinly veiled enlightened centrism.
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in reply to fullsquare

If you have to tell people you're enlightened, you ain't.


Incorrect.

You then spent the rest of the comment building up to calling me an antivaxxer, while you block my access to vaccines.

I'm glad I skimmed your comment instead of reading it, but still, what a waste of time

in reply to whoever loves Digit πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

RE: your question about the deletion of a thread you put to me on a post you've since deleted or had taken down by mods or whatever:

RE: your question about deleting a thread.

I can't even see that thread, and as that was done by someone who has an account capable of making that thread-removal happen, likely as a mod or admin, I'mma say its their perogative.

My facebook wall and posts are mine - there's plenty of shit comments I've had to delete for various reasons, and if you have a problem with it, I would suggest not using facebook. Same goes for comments on Youtube vids. I'm unaware of any reason Mastodon should, or you would expect them to, handle comments on blog-posts or whatever any differently.

Ownership and curration of one's space and blocking are inherrent in the idea of voluntary federation/de-federation. I can't delete replies to my posts on Lemmy in general, but that's because they aren't made to a community that I own or moderate, or the same for an instance with admins.

in reply to MachineFab812

The thread you can't see anymore was the thread you had replied to me in at the time.

My facebook wall and posts are mine


Not exactly. You can be banned if you say "fuck Zuck" a lot and tell the truth too much for the authorities to allow. Happened to me years ago. It also really shows you how worthless most social connections are, because most people (at least in my generation / region I grew up) don't even care about social connections enough to keep them going through a facebook ban.

I’m unaware of any reason Mastodon should, or you would expect them to, handle comments on blog-posts or whatever any differently.


I don't get what you're saying. Are you suggesting there should be no warning label to let readers of a thread know a person being replied to can't reply back, just because other platforms don't have one? What's the point of piefed if it's just going to do whatever existing platforms do and not solve problems?

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in reply to MachineFab812

I still don't quite get what you're saying. I'm not trying to be hostile, I did think we were on pretty much the same side when I had asked initially
in reply to MachineFab812

Thanks for the response, looks like we are indeed pretty much in agreement then
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in reply to whoever loves Digit πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

I get the vibe β€œlefty memes” is a misnomer, and an actual progressive like me won’t be accepted here


lmao you sound like a dork

in reply to _cryptagion [he/him]

Dork, communist, terrorist, conservative, "enlightened centrist"

There are many titles for my kind in a world where people just use words at random with no meaning

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in reply to whoever loves Digit πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

yeah ok "actual progressive". you keep it up and I'm gonna strain my eyes from rolling them so hard lmao
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in reply to _cryptagion [he/him]

Progressive and communist seem like more meaningful words to describe me with than dork or terrorist, but I welcome them all as long as you're too busy calling me names to do more "productive" oppression work against me
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in reply to _cryptagion [he/him]

Hey now that's pretty rude, haven't you considered that its very very hard being The One True Leftist?
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in reply to TheAlbatross

he's the Chosen One! he was supposed to bring balance to the Left!
in reply to whoever loves Digit πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

progressive and communist seem like more meaningful words to describe me

...violating my rights and putting me and my loved ones in senseless danger.


tbh this kinda signals that you see politics through the framework of individual rights, not systems of class or domination.

broadly speaking, do you think the problem is bad politicians or the state and capital as systems?

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