Are you interested in enshittification-resistant application development?
After almost two years of collaboration with the wonderful @n0iroh team, we are happy to announce that #deltachat 1.48 apps on all platforms contain top-notch Peer-to-Peer networking support, including hole-punching and forward-secret end-to-end encryption. It is exposed through the new #webxdc realtime APIs and there are some nice initial showcase apps 🎉
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in reply to dbat :godot: • • •@dbat if I got it correctly the connection is directly between peers when possible, relays are used only when it is not possible to stablish a direct connection, which is the same for virtually any other #p2p app out there with the use of STUN/TURN servers, etc
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in reply to adb • • •@adbenitez Thanks. I didn't get that from their site. Not that i know what stun and such is.
It sounds like a clever and important project, i wish they could illustrate the process in a clear way.
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in reply to dbat :godot: • • •dbat :godot:
in reply to Delta Chat • • •Hey, thanks for the reply. I will try to understand it; and I have a suggestion for you.
Have you seen the Alice and Bob style of illustrations used in cryptographic circles?
Like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-k…
If you could illustrate delta-chat similar to that, it would make it easier (at least for newbs like me) to grasp what you are offering.
Otherwise it just looks like yet another chat app with some weird voodoo attached.
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in reply to dbat :godot: • • •@dbat sure. Maybe a video is a good form for visualizing what happens? We are not really into video production so any help there appreciated. Our post was mostly geared towards curious users or would be users, and then to developers who might join #webxdc app developments because that is what all users benefit from immeditatly.
Fyi we are operating on a shoe-string budget and up against corporations with deep pockets with marketing/outreach departments outnumbering all our development teams.
dbat :godot:
in reply to Delta Chat • • •Oh sure, I can appreciate that.
I was only trying to support you. My feedback would be that, for whatever reasons, my brain could not parse the unique "thing" that you are working so hard towards.
It's a lot to take-in and illustrations are very helpful for that. You need not make a video, just try to diagram the process from Bob to Alice (or however it applies.)
I would be happy to help. If you make rough diagrams, I can make SVGs in Inkscape.
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in reply to Delta Chat • • •Sounds really cool. It is really a pity that delta chat doesn't seem to get much adoption. (At least I don't know anyone who uses it.)
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