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This honestly explains a lot.
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AccordionBruce

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The fact that the super-wealthy are 100,000,000% a creation of changes in the mathematical formula used in the tax laws in the 1980s

And nothing at all too do with any effort or quality of themselves

And that simple changes that said โ€œall that money is no longer yoursโ€ would be perfectly legal and correct

Is unfathomable to most people, not just the very wealthy

@John Breen
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StarkRG

I think that the capacity for introspection is a key component of what makes someone a person and not just a meat golem. And I'm not just talking about Homo Sapiens, whatever the other components are, if a species has them, including introspection, then they're people.
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StarkRG

@dwalin_7 Human is our species, I'm not saying someone who is truly incapable of introspection isn't human, I'm saying they're not *people.* And I'm not talking about someone who doesn't introspect, but someone who actually *can't.* If you don't introspect, purposefully analysing and modifying your own behaviour, then you're giving up any semblance of free will, you're essentially an automaton reacting to external stimuli. If you actually *can't* do that, then you simply *are* one.
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gmsizemore

From a purely epistemological standpoint, he's probably right. Words that refer to mental states, for example, were once (i.e., etymologically) frank references to behavior. A certain segment of the population appears to have no "mental imagery" at all. They can report other "private events," though...
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The Sleight Doctor ๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿ‰

FFS even the word "introspection" isn't modern. It dates back to the 17th century in English but derives from the ancient Latin "introspectus", meaning to look within. Why are these billionaires so willfully, proudly ignorant?

I'm starting to think some of them are philosophical zombies - in that they have no inner lives - which perhaps explains why they think chatbots might be people and other humans are expendable.

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acb

@ApostateEnglishman @cstross Various strains of โ€œrationalismโ€ and neoliberal-adjacent thought valorise โ€œhigh decouplingโ€: the ability to rationally do long-term cost-benefit calculations without being overwhelmed by the enormity of oneโ€™s immediate actions. Perhaps the apex of this is decoupling from any inner life at all?
@Charlie Stross @The Sleight Doctor ๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿ‰
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The Sleight Doctor ๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿ‰

@acb @cstross Yes. I expect you probably already know about longtermism, a component of TESCREAL, which seems to be the guiding ideology - bordering on religion - of the tech broligarchy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL

@timnitGebru , btw, is an essential fedi follow for those who aren't following her already.

TESCREAL - Wikipedia

Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)
@acb @Timnit Gebru (she/her). @Charlie Stross
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Scott D. Strader ๐Ÿ˜

These people are like a naive kid who finds out they can say anything they want to on the internet, but then they have to live the rest of their lives being mocked by others for the stupid things they say. History is those others that will be mocking Andreessen, Thiel, Musk, Altman, etc. But unfortunately they're adults and don't have that amygdala-prefrontal excuse to explain their behavior.
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clonedhuman

A 2021 study pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/โ€ฆ measuring political attitudes correlating with damage to different sections of the brain found
"...people with frontal lesions held more conservative (or less liberal) beliefs than those with anterior temporal lobe lesions or no lesions. Additional analyses predicting ideology by extent of damage provided convergent evidence that greater damage in the dorsolateral prefrontal cortexโ€”but not the amygdalaโ€”was associated with greater conservatism."

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