Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

in reply to Sheryl Weikal

Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.

Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.

You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.

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in reply to Cyberlyra

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@cyberlyra I like Star Trek, but my Orville knowledge is more complete (it's also a mere three seasons heh). This reminds me of one of my favorite moments in the series, and I've been thinking about it a lot lately. "You get all this by becoming better people."

I hope we can become better people.

in reply to Sheryl Weikal

I heard a long time ago, don’t know if true (probably not), that Roddenberry originally wanted to make a non-scifi about social injustices and such but was rejected – so he put it in space instead.

Whether true or not, that’s how I view TOS. I mean there’s literally an episode about half-black-half-white being racist to half-white-half-black people of their own species… many if not most episodes are extremely thinly veiled social commentary.

in reply to Sheryl Weikal

Point #2 on this list is fun! mix979fm.com/ten-things-you-di…

I worked on Star Trek, and right-wingers are not very smart. 😂

in reply to Sheryl Weikal

That is confusing as Star Trek has always been a very progressive show. As in decades ahead of its time culturally. Probably more than the average SciFi show.

If conservatives want a relatively conservative show, I think Babylon 5 might be in their orbit.

I was going to recommend Firefly / Serenity, but it’s too libertarian & diverse for their taste! 😂

in reply to Darnell Clayton

@darnell

One might want to show it to them, but not for the reasons that you might think.

Babylon 5 is the one that had a fascist regime take over Earth, institute a system of enforcers and informants named NightWatch, and bomb civilian targets on Mars; which is eventually defeated by a coalition of diverse species co-lead by a mixed-species person.

G'Kar had elements of Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Gandhi. Garibaldi didn't like corrupt corporations. Ivanova was in a same-sex relationship. Sinclair had PTSD. Neroon became a peacenik.

The show addressed slavery, social inequity, torture, mind control, racism/speciesism, collaborators, genocide, self-destruction, suppression of opposition, and sending people to die in wars.

One of its episodes, 'The Illusion of Truth' which showed how the Earth regime distorted the news for propaganda purposes, was even considered for use in university courses in the U.S.A..

midwinter.com/lurk/guide/074.h…

@theleftistlawyer

#Babylon5

in reply to Sheryl Weikal

all they remember is that 'White Man lead, and others follow', and that's pretty much all that counts.
Same with Star Wars: take away the White Male Lead™️ , and now it's Armageddon.

Those WASP panicked and cried while they cut the heads of figurines and burned them:

'What about MY fee-fees?'

(They didn't like Kylo Ren showing them for what they are, either)