Twitch declares “Zionist” a slur — and a bannable offense
Twitch says ‘Zionist’ can be a punishable slur.
After calls for Twitch to address antisemitism on the platform, the site’s hateful conduct policy now includes “Zionist” as a potential slur.Ash Parrish (The Verge)
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eldavi
in reply to chloroken • • •InfiniteGlitch
in reply to Alsephina • • •Twitch has become garbage anyway. I’m more on Kick for streams nowadays.
Anyway wasn’t “Zionist” suppose to be a good term for these murderers? Whether they make it a banable word, screw them. Those who defend Israel, their genocidal actions and claim that the land “belongs to them, the colonizers” are Zionists.
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Azzu
in reply to ceoofanarchism • • •From the link of this post that you could have clicked on:
Passerby6497
in reply to Azzu • • •Yeah, how dare people try to demean someone just because they checks notes hold dehumanizing beliefs and support a government and movement bent on removing the people from their land so they can steal it and build new homes while ethnically cleansing the existing population.
smh my head.
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Unknown parent • • •Further to this, the majority of zionists are christians.
Azzu
Unknown parent • • •If you had looked at the link of this post, you would have read:
I.e. nothing is masqueraded here as long as they keep to this. This seems to be a reasonable policy. I've seen a couple of instances of people being derogatorily called zionists just for supporting the people of current Israel not being pushed away out of their now decades-old homes, which is hard to still call Zionist if they don't support any further expansion and any offensive military action.
There's almost never anything gained to use "Zionist" on someone as if saying "asshole".
NutWrench
in reply to Alsephina • • •Can they still say that?
Anas
in reply to Azzu • • •Zionist is a political term, it has nothing to do with one’s background or religious belief.
Passerby6497
in reply to Azzu • • •Your 'if' is doing a lot of heavy lifting. And is fucking hilarious given they keep expanding and pushing people out of their decades old homes.
Funny how that part seems to be ignored in defense of zionists....
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in reply to Alsephina • • •OneMeaningManyNames
in reply to مهما طال الليل • • •brisk
in reply to OneMeaningManyNames • • •That kind of sucks, but it should only be for a dev release
gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp-da…
technocrit
in reply to مهما طال الليل • • •Dasus
in reply to Anas • • •You're entirely right.
But see if the political view is only held by members or a certain religious group (even if not all members of said religion accept said political thought), it's easy to conflate it, so that you can ban anyone opposing said political thought based on "they're discriminating against me because of my religion".
Fuck twitch.
DrDystopia
in reply to Alsephina • • •zqps
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in reply to Alsephina • • •wpb
in reply to small44 • • •If you're equating the Jewish people with zionism, or conflating being in favor of zionism as somehow being benevolent to the Jewish people as a whole, you are treating the Jewish people as a monolith and are yourself being anti-semitic. Zionism is perfectly compatible with anti-semitism (see for example all those anti-semitic christians who enthusiastically support zionism), and anti-zionism is in itself not anti-semitic (cf Jewish voice for peace).
So making "zionist" a slur has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with being anti-anti-semitic or not.
small44
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in reply to offspec • • •humanspiral
in reply to OneMeaningManyNames • • •Jewish Supremacism was the instigating lobby for such laws. They wanted to enable other "supremacist liberal-themed" movements to take advantage, and hopefully ally, with Zionism. Me too, at the height of the cultural wars, essentially was representing that women can never lie.
An inherent problem with equality, awareness for oppressed groups, advocacy is that the advocacy never stops at equality. The ADL is canonical example of supremacist overreach.
OneMeaningManyNames
in reply to humanspiral • • •humanspiral
in reply to OneMeaningManyNames • • •wpb
in reply to Alsephina • • •The same way I don't think we should capitulate to framing "cracker" as a slur, or to framing "black lives matter" as a racist thing to say, I don't think we should capitulate to framing things like "from the river to the sea" or "zionist" as antisemitic.
But, as a thought experiment, let's indulge in this doublespeak trash. What is a good alternative? So far I've got:
So all of this liberal crybaby nomenclature trash aside, I actually do think "zionist" is in itself a fairly useless term for the Israeli apartheid question (as Norman Finkelstein and Judith Butler do too). While one faction of zionism pursued the nakba and massacres from fairly early on, and while this faction has been quite successful,
... show moreThe same way I don't think we should capitulate to framing "cracker" as a slur, or to framing "black lives matter" as a racist thing to say, I don't think we should capitulate to framing things like "from the river to the sea" or "zionist" as antisemitic.
But, as a thought experiment, let's indulge in this doublespeak trash. What is a good alternative? So far I've got:
So all of this liberal crybaby nomenclature trash aside, I actually do think "zionist" is in itself a fairly useless term for the Israeli apartheid question (as Norman Finkelstein and Judith Butler do too). While one faction of zionism pursued the nakba and massacres from fairly early on, and while this faction has been quite successful, there are other notions of zionism which do not entail murdering children or colonizing a country. When Netanyahu and Chomsky can both legitimately refer to themselves as zionists, I think it's clear that zionism is too broad a term to be useful in the current ongoing genocide and the ethnic cleansing that has been going on for the better part of a century.
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in reply to wpb • • •I wish I could upvote this more.
Edit: a word
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in reply to Alsephina • • •Once genz matures, public opinion on Israel will shift. I hope Israel enters the "and find out" stage.
Fuck 'em, disgusting parasites leeching on US might to commit a genocide. Americans will pay for this too...
next 9/11: why would anybody do this to us 🤡
sad reality many of us did not sign up to fund the genocide but AIPAC was able to infiltrated state and corpos from within while avoiding foreign agent registration.
our spooks are fucking useless...
technocrit
in reply to Alsephina • • •Are they gonna lock up genocide joe for hate crimes?
sunzu2
in reply to zqps • • •us braindead fundies are numbered in dozens of millions and they largely support Zionism.
in rural US, radio glorifying genocide... it is very disturbing.
sunzu2
in reply to Passerby6497 • • •say what you say about state of Israel but they got AIPAC to run propaganda of the history!
being able to mobilize foreign population to support your genocide really is the psyop of all times lol
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in reply to Alsephina • • •technocrit
in reply to zqps • • •Azzu
in reply to small44 • • •I identify myself as a homosexual.
I've heard homo being used in a derogatory way as an insult. That usage should not be tolerated.
Retarded is just a medical term, yet you can use it as an insult as well.
That is what this "specification of conditional" aims at. It's fine to use the word in a descriptive way, you're just not allowed to go around angrily calling people "fucking zionist"
wpb
in reply to zqps • • •Thteven
in reply to Alsephina • • •Do a lot of slurs have a wikipedia page?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of…
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in reply to Thteven • • •humanspiral
in reply to Thteven • • •Do any of the forms of zionism (a belief that they should own the land) involve market purchases of the land they would like? (instead of settler colonial theft?)
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in reply to Thteven • • •en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/*remov…
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paki_(…
So yeah. Not that 'Zionist' is a slur
Edit: Really, shitty censorship bot? We're adulterating URLs now, and selectively only that specific slur? Gross on both counts
ghurab
in reply to Alsephina • • •sooo twitch declares the Zionist movement offensive? and should only discussed in sn academic sense? /s
wow twitch, very brave!!
small44
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in reply to lorty • • •One of the orchestrators of this whole thing, Destiny, defends child porn and the use of slurs.
Ironic is putting it lightly.
humanspiral
in reply to Alsephina • • •They probably don't like zionazi either. Neither this nor zionist is a code word for Jew. The entire political class, the great majority being Christian, and their donors are zionist, because going with the flow of AIPAC is path to get your candidates to also serve your oligarchist or Christofascist protections.
Netanyahuists or likudists or Mossadists or Epsteinists ok?
BTW, Chuck Shumer is going to allow a vote in Senate over this "criticism of zionism is anti semitic" law in US. Reddit also supports mods who recomend permabans over criticism of zionism already.
humanspiral
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in reply to Alsephina • • •wpb
in reply to zqps • • •Could you at least try to engage in this discussion? Or maybe come up with any evidence supporting your world view?
zqps
in reply to wpb • • •A different definition of the term isn't a different worldview. Also, not immediately spinning every exchange into an exhaustive debate isn't a critical character flaw. Unlike being an insufferable ass about not getting the amount of attention you apparently feel entitled to.
Though I would take look at that poll about 80% of Christians being "essentially" Zionists if you'd link to it.
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