Seems .world and .ee federation are broken
Is it a .world or a .ee issue?
Seems .world to .ee is broken so i wont be seeing anyone's comments from .world and the rest of the fediverse probably wont see this.
Heres ya issue:
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Have you done tests to see if sites or places you send information to can view them?
For instance, People I know that are using Eventbrite for private event registration. To sign up for the event with or without an account, you have to write and confirm your email in the boxes, I did some looking up to see if hosts can see the email. I didn't find any answers so I made a Reddit post asking, and got a reply saying "No, they can't. Eventbrite deletes them as soon as you submit the form." I wanted to be sure so I created a private test event and registered for it in a private window. I then went to my event dashboard and clicked on the ticket # where I can in fact view it (the email shown is made up).
I only asked Perplexity after trying to find out myself. It did in fact find the answer (link #8: View your Attendee Summary report): "Review attendee purchase details like email address ..." I've found LLMs and search tools like Perplexity to be unreliable for answering questions like this for websites, as well as software. Which means I may not turn to them in cases where they actually would help. It's too bad they hallucinate a lot too.
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Usually they try to placate the masses by giving them bread and circuses.
Now bread is $10 and circus is being banned.
Interesting strategy. We'll see how it plays out.
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in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •Wait, how do they get that data remotely? I was looking at my instance vs world and I saw there's like the +1 hour from a week or so ago when I upgraded to latest mbin lol.
I guess they're looking at common activities and when they appear on each?
Nothing4You
in reply to r00ty • • •lemmy has a public api that shows the federation queue state for all linked instances.
it provides the internal numeric id of the last activity that was successfully sent to an instance, as well as the timestamp of the activity that was sent, and also when it was sent. it also includes data like how many times sending was unsuccessful since the last successful send. each instance only knows about its own outbound federation, but you can just collect this information from both sides to get the full picture.
there is also phiresky.github.io/lemmy-feder⦠to look at the details provided by a specific instance.
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in reply to Nothing4You • • •Nothing4You
in reply to r00ty • • •r00ty
in reply to Nothing4You • • •We can see it ourselves. We use rabbitmq for incoming (and maybe outgoing, it's been a while since I looked at how it is) federation. So, you can see the queues there. For incoming (from rabbitmq) and outgoing there are also queues (symfony messenger) and these handle failures and can be configured and can be queried.
After the upgrade I just took the default configuration again (because it seems queue names changed). But I used to have various rules setup in rabbitmq for retries and it took a fair few tries before the messages ended up in the proper "failed" queue (which needs manual action to retry). Some items you eventually need to clear (instances that just shutdown, or instances that lost their domain for example). They will never complete.
But it's not exposed in any way to my knowledge. Well unless people have their rabbitmq web interface open and without login of course.
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in reply to π¦πΊππ¦ππ₯ππππ£π ππ ππππ • • •originalucifer
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in reply to π¦πΊππ¦ππ₯ππππ£π ππ ππππ • • •muntedcrocodile
in reply to jordanlund • • •Cris
in reply to π¦πΊππ¦ππ₯ππππ£π ππ ππππ • • •Huh.
I can see the post from my .world account
muntedcrocodile
in reply to Cris • • •r00ty
in reply to π¦πΊππ¦ππ₯ππππ£π ππ ππππ • • •Looking at incoming request. .world is working OK for me. They seem to be batching stuff like I'll get nothing for 30 seconds, then over 3 seconds like 50+ requests.
Of course I don't know if their queue is backed up and I'm getting delayed stuff. I'd need to stop processing and look into the incoming queue to see what they're sending.
Bit of an edit. Looking at incoming again I can see under newest items, an entry from world that was 11 minutes old. Oh I have an idea. I'll see if this edit gets there in a timely manner.
Spoiler alert, it was instant.
Oh ignore me. It's specifically between those two instances I guess.
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in reply to r00ty • • •r00ty
in reply to π¦πΊππ¦ππ₯ππππ£π ππ ππππ • • •I think it must be hit/miss. Because I think those edits I made would have gone from my instance to world and then from world to .ee, and it was happening within seconds.
So, presumably random stuff is being dropped or delayed?
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in reply to r00ty • • •Yeah ur right. Everything going on here must go through .world as it is the community. Which makes it even weirder that we dont have .world users federaring out.
My understanding of federation is ur events get sent to ur instance (kbin.life) ur instance sends those events to the instance of the relevent community (lemmy.world) the instance of the community sends that event to all instances subscribed to that community (lemm.ee, kbin.life, etc) my instance receives that event then notified me.
So this conversion is goibg through .world just that .world users events seem not to be gettibg sent to .ee
I think we need someone smarter than both of us to fix this
Nothing4You
in reply to π¦πΊππ¦ππ₯ππππ£π ππ ππππ • • •Filtered word: nsfw
it's not just lemmy.world.
of the larger instances, the following have trouble sending activities to lemm.ee currently:
i pinged @sunaurus@lemm.ee on matrix about 30h ago already about the issues with federation from lemmynsfw.com, as it was the first one i noticed, but I haven't heard back yet.
Steve
in reply to Nothing4You • • •jordanlund
in reply to π¦πΊππ¦ππ₯ππππ£π ππ ππππ • • •Admins have been talking about it, it looks like it has something to do with banning/unbanning users. Sometimes a ban/unban doesn't want to propagate to .ee and that causes a logjam somehow.
Smarter people than me are looking at it!
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in reply to jordanlund • • •Ech
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in reply to π¦πΊππ¦ππ₯ππππ£π ππ ππππ • • •TriflingToad
in reply to π¦πΊππ¦ππ₯ππππ£π ππ ππππ • • •w3dd1e
in reply to π¦πΊππ¦ππ₯ππππ£π ππ ππππ • • •I see it? Maybe I just havenβt noticed but I think .world is fine for me?
Edit: nvm you might be right. I just checked my posts in !futurama@lemmy.world. They normally get 60-100 up votes but the last one only got 3.