OK Grassroots Joe replied in good faith!👍🏿 He didn't get angry at me or anyone else. He just is unsure about if things have changed. The usual election "this time it's different, white women will vote differently this time because [fascist] has done something that women don't like."

So I'll answer the question.

Most of the increase in "women's" support of Harris, and against Trump, over the past 4 years has come from *Black women*. Still at 90%, but *turnout increased*🤷🏿‍♂️

The reason it's so hard to find breakouts by race when people write headlines like:

* "A surge in "women voters" registration after Harris announced for president!"

And

* "Massive voter registration ahead of vote for abortion!"

There were a few elections where the shift was white women. But in most of these cases, the additional white women voters *are split or close to split in their support*, and most of the progressive shift comes from *Black women*.

And, despite what the media (And even what Obama may try to sell you at some points), from a rebound in support of *Black men*

abcnews.go.com/Politics/harris…

Because like I said, about 20% of Black men were ready to sit the election out if Biden was the candidate. And this would have cost Dems the election. Because Biden panders to racists, and passes devastatingly racist legislation.

My whole point: pandering to racists *decreases* Black voters turnout, and losses elections

i agree with you 100%

however, it's interesting how "white women voting against their bigot husbands' wishes" rattles white bigoted men

so the audience for the narrative is not lefty types with rose colored glasses

it's the misogynistic racists the women are married to

it's a perfect earworm for their insecurity, and it has a lot of traction on the right:

salon.com/2024/11/01/that-is-s…

so i support the narrative *in the rightwing echo chamber* to torture them

But we don't need to torture and divide them.

We need to not do or say things that will decrease Black men voters turnout in the last days of the election.

Y'all are not hearing me that this stunt can cost Harris Georgia and North Carolina. No, I'm not being hyperbolic. Yes, it is that close. Yes, it does upset Black men that much. No, Black men do not trust most white Dem voters, and are trying to trust Harris, but stunts like this do no't help.

understood

i'm getting my rocks off torturing the bigots

but it's not good strategy

i see it

If the US had dropped pamphlets over Nazi Germany saying "Attention Eva Braun and Anny Geiger! We know that you do not agree with what's going on! We can rescue you! You are safe from your husband!"

US soldiers might have seen this as a funny stunt to cause strife in nazi households. Some US soldiers might have anecdotes that some DE wives really did want out. But mostly, people that had suffered directly under Eva and Anny would be shocked and disappointed.

good analogy

so julia roberts is wwii radio propaganda from the allies:

foxnews.com/media/julia-robert…

like:

smithsonianmag.com/history/fak…

the axis had their shit slingers too:

axis sally and tokyo rose

(but the real story of "tokyo rose" is how Iva Toguri D'Aquino was treated after the war, racist overreaction):

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Ro…

if only there was a way to target bigots

but as you say it spills over and has negative effects on the left's strategy