That's the same the other way round: if you fight this great idea just because you would have chosen a different name, your motivation is maybe a difficult one to understand. 🤷

Sad to read that you would rather see the Org-mode syntax stay in its geeky niche instead of becoming a mainstream option as LML. 😔

And this only exists in Emacs. I did not even found a feature complete interpreter of OrgMode which works outside of Emacs.

> However, there were many misunderstandings in the aftermath of my article. In many online discussions, people did not seem to be able to differ between the Elisp code and the design of the markup language.

Yeah, bc all higher benefits of OM comes only in combination with Emacs and there is no need to learn another ML with bad tool support outside of it.

I disagree.

In my business life, we generate documents (via Gitlab CI) on the server. What editor you're using doesn't matter for the process - just for personal taste.

I did write tons of tools whose stdout output was in #orgdown, which then got processed by other tools, mostly not related to Emacs at all.

You can write your mail in orgdown syntax as a convention - one of the initial purposes of #LML.

So we have a clear disagreement on the usefulness of LML outside one particular tool.

Of course, *if* you're using orgdown and *if* you want to optimize tool support, you are perfectly fit with using #Emacs for that. 👍

But keeping that as some sort of mantra (Org-mode syntax only(!) makes sense within Emacs) and not because this LML is well-designed for being typed by hand, processed by a broad range of tools, easy to learn, ... that's a pity in my opinion and doesn't do justice to this great syntax we have at hand.

YMMV.

You write post-processing tools for your OM stdout. Thats cool!

You have an academic POV on OM as "die reine Lehre", but missing the perspective of those who just want to use a format w/o fiddling with it, extending it or building the lang support by themself.

I strongly disagree, have lots of arguments and you have to wait until I publish my articles on that.

You'll be surprised, I guarantee. 😉

Another instance of "on Mastodon, you can't discuss such a topic".

Absolutely!

Sounds like a very reasonable argument to me.

😈 🤣 😉

I've noticed your "Orgdown" stuff in passing before, but not thought much about it.

I tend use Org markup in larger, more complex emails for instance and other shared documents. It seems natural to me. In fact I've had a few replies that copied what I'd done. Definitely not from Emacs org-mode users.

But, actually defining a simple Org markup not directly connected to Emacs, but just a better general markup still compatible with Emacs I think is a great idea.