Skip to main content


Hello Fedi friends!

My decision to upload the Fedi promo video to YouTube 2 weeks ago was really controversial.

@randahl posted a nice message about the video & encouraged his followers to like / comment on it so the YouTube algorithm would serve it to more people. He was inundated by hostile comments for days. Sorry Randahl!

Well, exhibit A of why this was a good decision in hindsight (see pic).

How else are people going to hear about the Fediverse?

As always, thanks for the support ❤️

This entry was edited (6 months ago)
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

it's no good preaching to the already converted. Where do these zealots believe non-fedi people are going to see the video?

#SMH

#smh
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

sorry to hear that some people still don’t get it. Thanks for your fantastic work in promoting the Fediverse
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I find it's great to post things on the central platforms as long as it's a few things;
1. A few days / hours late (and you say you can find it quicker on here)
2. It's pure promo content for the Fediverse and what we do on here, Like you said "How else are people meant to know about it"

There's probably a few other reasons such as being a business makes sense, but adopting the Fedi First Goal is a good idea for people who NEED to use these other platforms.

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

That's so disappointing to hear. Sorry you had a bad experience.

No one should be attacking you for raising awareness for the open social web outside of its current shape. Like you said, how else would we grow this space?

We've experienced similar things in the past, so if you ever want advise (or to rant), the Newsmast team will always be a happy ear.

Now going to leave a positive comment on the video 🧡

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I'm totally agree with you, we have to put our feet in the "enemy territory" to let people know about the fediverse, I don't see alternatives to wake up people.
Unknown parent

mastodon - Link to source
leberschnitzel
even in the video description?
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

For sure. Leaving the users behind in the monoverse is not doing anyone any good.

As the fediverse grows the monoverse will fight back. The story of a better alternativ need to be toll. Everywhere.

Thank again for you brilliant video. This is the way!

in reply to Rasmus Sindum

@sindum
/me appears in comments randomly, steals "monoverse", disappears back into bushes.
Unknown parent

mastodon - Link to source
Randahl Fink
don't worry about me. I got battle hardened by fighting the far right on immigration in the Danish media, so these Mastodon comments felt like a mild breeze.
I am just glad your video did so well — 19000 views is 19000 potential new users. You and your friends have every reason to celebrate such an awesome success.
@newsmast
This entry was edited (6 months ago)
Unknown parent

mastodon - Link to source
leberschnitzel
google stopped giving you the choice to monetize some years ago, if you're not a partner or something.
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Well done! I wrote a few words on this also: berthub.eu/articles/posts/yeah…
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

There are lots of intelligent people in the Fediverse. Unfortunately, they are not always socially smart. I wonder if being excluded (or self-excluded) from 'normal' society makes them unaware of how things work for 'normal' people. The lack of empathy, coupled with not receiving feedback from 'normal' people (because the Fediverse is a bubble), means they miss a lot of things.

I'm all for using bad platforms to talk about the good ones to bring more people here. 👍

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

The video was really well done :-)

The more the message spreads, the better the awareness. Even if people don’t flock to the Fediverse, the fact that they are aware of its existence is already a massive win!

@randahl

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

is the option the makes most sense! Loved the video! Send it to my dad, now he’s also intrigued! 🤗 keep it up!
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I am not surprised. Unfortunately, the Fediverse can sometimes exhibit a pretty toxic "holier than you" attitude. ☹️
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Yeah I personally post on YouTube as part of a funnel that moves people to Mastodon, PeerTube, and my website.

I think that's the key here - make each video an opportunity for people to migrate :)

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Of course the ad I saw displayed on the page is for FB. I've never seen an ad for FB before...
Unknown parent

glitchsoc - Link to source
Jill ☁

you should be able to "pin" a comment on YT. This way you could highlight your comment explaining something asked often or the one with the PeerTube-link.

Or is this feature also only available after verification?

@newsmast @randahl

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

You have to go where people are right now. Nothing wrong with posting it on youtube. I hadn't seen it but I'll go find it and do the things to boost it. Thanks for your work and ignore the negative folks, you're a star.
Unknown parent

mastodon - Link to source
Lily Star
Oh, I am pretty sure it was deliberate on YTs part..
Unknown parent

glitchsoc - Link to source
Jill ☁

Yeah, I read about the ID bs earlier. That`s why I suggested pinning. Hopefully it works, otherwise ppl just have to scroll a little. Shouldn't be that hard. 😁

@newsmast @randahl

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

posting on YT is not good or bad decision, it's medium that we can share. Bad if you see it problems, but still easy and available to most people... Heck TV's have YT merged in so YT is your to go instead of cable.
Talking about fediverse outside fedi also important. Recently have someone in discord for gacha game I play asked, Mastodon? I heard about it two years ago! It's still alive?
You can correlate big movements (Reddit API/X shitshow) and talk about fediverse or uptick in Users
Unknown parent

mastodon - Link to source
sebulon
@newsmast
Please excuse my ignorance but couldn't you just write the link to the PeerTube-video directly in the video description? I did look but saw only a link to your blog. Not saying it'll make people stop asking but, you know... 😄
Unknown parent

mastodon - Link to source
sebulon
@newsmast
Yeah I read that, sucks! Well if you change your mind, people could just copy and paste it like I suspect most people do anyway with the address to your blog 🤷
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

folks don't want to hear about just another social media platform. They want to hear about the fediverse.
Unknown parent

mastodon - Link to source
Jorge Candeias

You're not.

They are.

YT now sticks ads in every single video, pretty much.

Which is why one is always armed with an ad blocker.

@leberschnitzel

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Way to go Elena! Keep fighting the good fight. Ignore the detractors. Full speed ahead!
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Old story. But when I read these things, I feel bad, because some of my friends who had joined that social network naively, throw that story in my face.

facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10…

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Premiere on Peertube and then syndicate elsewhere is an excellent communication strategy, there is even a name for it:
indieweb.org/POSSE

#POSSE #Fediverse #PeerTube #YouTube

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Sure it might seem antithetical and I think that if some place wants to link to the video, it should not link to the YouTube version, but it definitely also needs to be there so that people can find out about it.
Unknown parent

mastodon - Link to source
Big Ducky
@starlily I imagine that it’s very likely that Meta places ads on Google platforms using fediverse and fedi platform names as keywords. In other words, I suspect that this wasn’t a coincidence.
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I agree

YouTube is not without its problems but that is exactly why this video needs to be there

The majority of people that you're trying to reach are on the big tech platforms

Most people don't use alternatives because they aren't aware that there are alternatives

Uploading to YT was the best way to get the message out and never feel bad about other peoples inability to see that

You're doing great work here

Unknown parent

mastodon - Link to source
Piero Bosio
I would prefer that the Fediverse not put itself on the same level as FB where anyone who does not align with the dominant narrative is censored or defederated.
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

This is a good philosophic question, that could be at the 'bac' exam in France: up to what point shall you go to promote your ideas?

Why promoting your ideas on a media you are attacking is OK and why isn't it OK?

Up to what point shall you not accept it?

Is that right then to insult the author?

Why hate is promoted on GAFAM social network?

And so on and so on.

I don't have answer regarding if its right or not. You haven't done nothing illicit, but against the principles you promote.

Only if the benefit is bigger than the cost, you will be right, won't you?

Whatever, chating about it is OK. Insulting obviously not.

By the way, your video is WONDERFUL.

❤️

Unknown parent

glitchsoc - Link to source
Jill ☁

@newsmast this makes absolutely no sens! Next step they will force you to a subscription in order to have these basic features enabled. 😠

I am not against paying for services! Only if they still show you ads and keep using you/your content for making money/serving ads. That's just bs. imho