Seems more likely he'll just let things devolve further...
Trump would not elaborate on what he meant by his threat — first announced on social media in early December — that "all hell will break out" if a deal is not made.
"It will not be good for Hamas, and it will not be good, frankly, for anyone," Trump said. -Source
Not sure he understands the implications of his own statement...
Stopping a genocide is the opposite of devolving. Trumps statement is a direct threat to Israel. There is no leverage or "worse" for Hamas. Democrats trying to spin Trump stopping the genocide into something bad is comical.
I also highly doubt he's gonna do anything. Add on top of that, that very few outside countries seem to care about Trump, much less respect him enough to actually listen to anything he has to say.
I’m sure all the money AIPAC gave to Trump has no impact. We know Trump to be such a non-transactional person. You drank a big ass glass of the MAGA koolaid dude. Netanyahu and Trump are very friendly, I’m sure he wants to make it look like Trump brought a cease fire for optics. Israel is losing support all over the world, even in Israel, they were pushing towards the optics of a cease fire for a while. You wait and see what really happens. I’m sure the author of the Muslim ban who constantly decries negatively towards Islam is going to stand up for the poor Islamic state over the rich lucrative Israeli state. 🤦🏻
Trump gets his funding from Miriam Adelson. the $100 million she gave him is clearly not even close to what the Democrats received. Becacuse Trump is stopping the genocide instantly. Kool aid is supposed to be red but these days it is blue.
“If it’s good, Trump did it. If it’s bad, it’s Biden’s fault.”
PLEASE tell me you’re thinking it through more than this, then let’s have a dialogue about that thought process because I am incredibly curious how you got there.
Israeli sources say that the involvement of the incoming U.S. administration, led by Trump's aggressive Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff, revived hostage talks with Hamas.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Thursday that a “last minute crisis” with Hamas was holding up Israeli approval of a long-awaited agreement to pause the fighting in the Gaza Strip and release dozens of hostages.
You realize he's literally threatening Hamas here, no?
"It will not be good for Hamas, and it will not be good, frankly, for anyone," Trump said.
He seems more likely to stop the genocide by allowing Isreal to just kill everyone so there's no one left to genocide....
They are more likely to give Israel a lot of leeway, including releasing Biden’s hold on the transfer of certain weapons to finish the job as soon as possible. Source
I don’t know if I would count “making an announcement on social media” as stopping the genocide, but I understand that for Trump voters the bar on anything must be very low.
Israeli sources say that the involvement of the incoming U.S. administration, led by Trump's aggressive Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff, revived hostage talks with Hamas.
President Joe Biden and President-elect Donald Trump are both claiming credit for Israel and Hamas agreeing to a ceasefire deal in Gaza after the White House brought Trump’s Middle East envoy into negotiations that have dragged on for months.
Biden said his admin and the incoming Trump admin worked together on it, and Trump’s is responsible for the implementation and continuance of the agreement.
Israeli sources say that the involvement of the incoming U.S. administration, led by Trump's aggressive Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff, revived hostage talks with Hamas.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Thursday that a “last minute crisis” with Hamas was holding up Israeli approval of a long-awaited agreement to pause the fighting in the Gaza Strip and release dozens of hostages.
lol or you and that articles anonymous sources were wrong….
Its ok to be wrong. I find it kinda funny though that you had to downvote a purely factual article just because you didn’t like the development of the situation.
President Joe Biden and President-elect Donald Trump are both claiming credit for Israel and Hamas agreeing to a ceasefire deal in Gaza after the White House brought Trump’s Middle East envoy into negotiations that have dragged on for months.
Trump is claiming credit for all of it. Biden is claiming credit for the agreement, while acknowledging Trump was kept informed and is responsible for the implementation.
Anyone with internet access can compare what we know about the plan and what Biden proposed last year and see the similarities.
Just because Trump posted to social media first doesn’t mean he did shit.
Now you’re just grasping at air to try and not be wrong.
Bidens deal was on the table since June. Presenting an agreement has little value if he lets Netanyahu refuse it. Trump made Netanyahu accept the agreement.
Although Democrats did completely drop the ball on this and never should have sent Israel anything, we also got the terms of this deal last year from Biden, so there also that.
Oh wait you’re from hexbear. You’ll just double down anyway.
Qatar's PM is slated to hold a press conference Wednesday night announcing the deal to the media, a Qatari news outlet reported. Netanyahu is currently convening a situation assessment
In that article I don't see that Dump (or Biden) did much more than posturing around this. Also anything that refers to this conflict as a 15 month war is suspect.
Where’s the “sort by most downvotes”? This is absolutely. Is Trump/Musk paying infiltrators? Seriously, dude can’t read the room. What’s going on here?
Midnitte
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •Seems more likely he'll just let things devolve further...
Not sure he understands the implications of his own statement...
geneva_convenience
in reply to Midnitte • • •Feydaikin
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •Well, let's see what happens.
I also highly doubt he's gonna do anything. Add on top of that, that very few outside countries seem to care about Trump, much less respect him enough to actually listen to anything he has to say.
geneva_convenience
in reply to Feydaikin • • •What did that 'respect' get little old Joey Brandon? All Trump had to do was threaten to cut off the weapons.
Trump already did something
Feydaikin
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •They already have weapons, both sides, and America doesn't sit on the worlds supply of weapons. So that will get him nothing.
His envoy pressing for a ceasefire seems to do very little, as everybody else has been doing the same for a while now.
What else have you got?
ToadOfHypnosis
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •geneva_convenience
in reply to ToadOfHypnosis • • •karl_chungus
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •Dude Trump isn’t even in office yet lol.
Your logic as viewed by everyone else:
“If it’s good, Trump did it. If it’s bad, it’s Biden’s fault.”
PLEASE tell me you’re thinking it through more than this, then let’s have a dialogue about that thought process because I am incredibly curious how you got there.
Kool aid comes in multiple colors.
geneva_convenience
in reply to karl_chungus • • •Trump's Mideast envoy forced Netanyahu to accept a Gaza plan he repeatedly rejected
Chaim Levinson (Haaretz)karl_chungus
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •Israel PM Netanyahu says Cabinet won't meet over Gaza ceasefire
TIA GOLDENBERG (AP News)Midnitte
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •You realize he's literally threatening Hamas here, no?
He seems more likely to stop the genocide by allowing Isreal to just kill everyone so there's no one left to genocide....
Trump Wants to End Gaza War on Israel’s Terms
Steven A. Cook (Foreign Policy)geneva_convenience
in reply to Midnitte • • •Avessandra
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in reply to geneva_convenience • • •ThirdConsul
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •tomi000
in reply to ThirdConsul • • •geneva_convenience
in reply to ThirdConsul • • •Trump's Mideast Envoy Forced Netanyahu to Accept a Gaza Plan He Repeatedly Rejected
and
Arab officials: Trump envoy swayed Netanyahu more in one meeting than Biden did all year
Trump's Mideast envoy forced Netanyahu to accept a Gaza plan he repeatedly rejected
Chaim Levinson (Haaretz)ThirdConsul
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •geneva_convenience
in reply to ThirdConsul • • •I thought you meant evidence Trump was responsible for the ceasefire. For Democrats trying to claim credit here is an example.
Trump and Biden both claim credit for Gaza ceasefire deal
Trump and Biden both claim credit for Gaza ceasefire deal
MATTHEW LEE (AP News)ThirdConsul
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •karl_chungus
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •What makes you think Trump should get the credit?
Biden said his admin and the incoming Trump admin worked together on it, and Trump’s is responsible for the implementation and continuance of the agreement.
geneva_convenience
in reply to karl_chungus • • •Trump's Mideast envoy forced Netanyahu to accept a Gaza plan he repeatedly rejected
Chaim Levinson (Haaretz)karl_chungus
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •Israel PM Netanyahu says Cabinet won't meet over Gaza ceasefire
TIA GOLDENBERG (AP News)geneva_convenience
in reply to karl_chungus • • •karl_chungus
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •lol or you and that articles anonymous sources were wrong….
Its ok to be wrong. I find it kinda funny though that you had to downvote a purely factual article just because you didn’t like the development of the situation.
It can’t be the source because you used the same one 40 minutes ago: lemmy.ml/comment/16115856
geneva_convenience
2025-01-16 14:54:57
geneva_convenience
in reply to karl_chungus • • •Do you understand the difference between Democrats trying to take credit, and Israelis and Arab sources attributing the credit to Trump?
One takes credit. The other is given credit.
karl_chungus
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •Wrong.
Trump is claiming credit for all of it. Biden is claiming credit for the agreement, while acknowledging Trump was kept informed and is responsible for the implementation.
Anyone with internet access can compare what we know about the plan and what Biden proposed last year and see the similarities.
Just because Trump posted to social media first doesn’t mean he did shit.
Now you’re just grasping at air to try and not be wrong.
geneva_convenience
in reply to karl_chungus • • •karl_chungus
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •Says who? An anonymous source on a paywalled article from a side with a heavy bias?
Because my less biased source already proved otherwise.
At this point you’re just creating headcanon and arguing with that.
Downvoting doesn’t make you any less wrong.
Adkml [he/him]
in reply to Avessandra • • •That is objectively already more than dems did.
With dems we just got news articles about how behind closed doors Biden was super duper mad about the genocide then they'd send more bombs.
karl_chungus
in reply to Adkml [he/him] • • •Although Democrats did completely drop the ball on this and never should have sent Israel anything, we also got the terms of this deal last year from Biden, so there also that.
Oh wait you’re from hexbear. You’ll just double down anyway.
TexMexBazooka
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •Check back in in a month
Edit: it’s been 10 days now, but things ain’t goin so hot are they?
mriguy
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •karl_chungus
in reply to mriguy • • •ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •puppetx
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •Xoriff
in reply to puppetx • • •100% on your side. But careful not to set yourself up for the same legit criticism that we throw at R's. Whataboutism.
edit: but also that would be a pretty great meme, tbf
geneva_convenience
in reply to puppetx • • •BlueFootedPetey
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •geneva_convenience
in reply to BlueFootedPetey • • •Gaza cease-fire and hostage deal reached between Israel and Hamas, officials say
Jonathan Lis (Haaretz)neoinvin
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