Trump pardons Silk Road dark web market creator Ross Ulbricht
Trump pardons Silk Road creator Ross Ulbricht
Trump said he had called Ulbricht's mother to let her know that he had granted a full and unconditional pardon to her son.BBC News
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in reply to Em Adespoton • • •Human trafficking was not allowed. Not even CCs were allowed. Silk road didn't let you sell anything that harmed others.
Also, how did Ulbricht steal from the rich?!?
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in reply to jagged_circle • • •And it was still quite literally used by 10,000's of vendors to sell illegal drugs?
I dont think it would have even been a thing if it was as easy as you suggest to catch people selling drugs on it. Sure, with enough resources, a dedicated law enforcement team can likely bust a drug dealer using BTC; but like with most things involving drugs and Neo-liberalism, the prisons are all full, the police are underfunded and can only occasionally make token arrests and the people who arent low hanging fruit get in and out without any interaction with the police.
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in reply to ghost_of_faso3 • • •No way you actually think this is reality. No way enforcement could just be a deeply inefficient way of dealing with crime and the low hanging fruit along with making a show of token arrests is really all they care about.
No lol the country with the largest prison population, that generates private profit by holding its people captive and hands out billions of dollars to police, the DEA and the FBI to capture them, well it just needs to hand out even more billions of dollars of "resources" to these agencies so they can lock up the real criminals and then crime will be properly dealt with!
ghost_of_faso3
in reply to meowMix2525 • • •The people in prison for dealing drugs arent the same people dealing drugs with bitcoin, you conflate gang members, prescription drug resellers and corner standers with the profile of a typical darknet drug dealer, which arent the same demographics for the most part.
... show moreIts the reality in the UK at least, only drug dealers who get caught here are the ones trying to ship in millions of worth of cocaine, the prisons are actu
The people in prison for dealing drugs arent the same people dealing drugs with bitcoin, you conflate gang members, prescription drug resellers and corner standers with the profile of a typical darknet drug dealer, which arent the same demographics for the most part.
Its the reality in the UK at least, only drug dealers who get caught here are the ones trying to ship in millions of worth of cocaine, the prisons are actually all full here and most drug crimes dont even get charged because the time limit they have to charge people expires by the time the courts become available.
As for the US, it remains a convient excuse for the police to suppress votes from demographics the upper class needs supressed; you wont be finding the people who supply elon musk with ketamine going to prison anytime soon, they will be smart enough to use monero!
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in reply to Em Adespoton • • •He pioneered an online marketplace for drugs and also tried to have people assassinated (allegedly)
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in reply to RegalPotoo • • •Was it? It wasn't mentioned in the article and I don't think I've ever heard that before.
"Ulbricht was found guilty of charges including conspiracy to commit drug trafficking, money laundering and computer hacking."
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in reply to azl • • •That's because the charges were dismissed.
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2025-01-22 10:38:10
That's because the charges were dismissed.
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2025-01-22 10:38:10
john89
in reply to RegalPotoo • • •I've never heard about this.
Can you provide a source?
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in reply to borari • • •Google didn't turn up anything conclusive.
Are you sure you're not misremembering this or making it up? It should be pretty easy for you to provide a source if it's true.
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in reply to john89 • • •Feds Take Down Online Fraud Bazaar ‘Silk Road’, Arrest Alleged Mastermind
krebsonsecurity.comRegalPotoo
in reply to john89 • • •Silk Road Drug Vendor Who Claimed To Commit Murders-For-Hire For Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Charged With Narcotics And Money Laundering Conspiracies
www.justice.govcomfy
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in reply to db0 • • •I have seen this repeated multiple times on Lemmy. When I look this up, I find:
So, the charges are dismissed with prejudice, the DEA agent imprisoned for corruption, the alleged victim testifies in his favor. What makes the other narrative compelling? I see people citing the court document in which the claims were made..... But what is the value of that document if the result was a dismissal with prejudice? Shouldn't that support the innocence narrative?
I am genuinely curious. I'm not necessarily advocating his innocence, I want to understand what other people know that makes them so convinced that he is guilty of this.
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in reply to db0 • • •when the government puts a gun in the hands of someone under pressure and whispers in their ear "do it. Kill them. Pull the trigger" I'd say they're innocent 100% of the time
If you manipulate someone into doing a violent crime, the person who did the manipulation is the criminal
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in reply to jagged_circle • • •He paid money to have people killed in order to protect his profits
justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/silk-…
The fact that he wasn't convicted of it doesn't mean it didn't happen
Silk Road Drug Vendor Who Claimed To Commit Murders-For-Hire For Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Charged With Narcotics And Money Laundering Conspiracies
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in reply to RegalPotoo • • •Allegedly*
Fact: nobody was actually killed.
Fact: He wasn't convicted, so this is just the government claiming someone they dont like did something without proving it (again the proof lacking is the payments, because nobody died)
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in reply to mount_snowden • • •So, here's a thought to mull over.
Most crimes committed with firearms are pursuant to drug trafficking. Gangs fight other gangs to control drug territory, because it's extremely lucrative. When I lived in Chicago, the gangs were hyper-local; the police had dismantled the leadership of the large gangs, leading to the fracturing of the gang structure, and creating more, and smaller gangs, all fighting over turf, and where and to whom they could sell drugs.
When you move that off the streets and anonymize all of it, you remove the motivation to commit violent acts. A gang on street A is no longer competing with a gang on street B for customers; now they might be competing with someone across the country, or in another country entirely. Not only that, but you de-motivate adulteration of drugs; if you sell low-purity trash, or cut your percs with fent, your customers now have a plethora of other options to try.
The Silk Road made drugs and the drug trade safer for everyone. If this had become the norm, instead of p2p sales, we could have seen significant dro
... show moreSo, here's a thought to mull over.
Most crimes committed with firearms are pursuant to drug trafficking. Gangs fight other gangs to control drug territory, because it's extremely lucrative. When I lived in Chicago, the gangs were hyper-local; the police had dismantled the leadership of the large gangs, leading to the fracturing of the gang structure, and creating more, and smaller gangs, all fighting over turf, and where and to whom they could sell drugs.
When you move that off the streets and anonymize all of it, you remove the motivation to commit violent acts. A gang on street A is no longer competing with a gang on street B for customers; now they might be competing with someone across the country, or in another country entirely. Not only that, but you de-motivate adulteration of drugs; if you sell low-purity trash, or cut your percs with fent, your customers now have a plethora of other options to try.
The Silk Road made drugs and the drug trade safer for everyone. If this had become the norm, instead of p2p sales, we could have seen significant drops in violent crimes associated with the drug trade.
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