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Google is so sneaky. This prompt inside Gmail gives you three options. The two most visible options (number 1 is 'Try it now' and number 2 is 'Continue') basically mean 'Enable Gemini AI to write emails.' The third option cancels it which is hidden well. Google, you could do better than this. This is a perfect example of a dark pattern. For those who want AI to write basic emails can enable it but there is not need to do this kind of "shady" stuff.

#ai #privacy

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This is what I call technical debt (not the exact situation but you get the gist of it) from using Gmail everywhere for personal use and projects. Now Google Drive and Gmail are part of my workflow because everyone else I interact with is also hooked into Google ecosystem because of Android phone or tablets, from governments to private citizens/bizness. It is really hard to get rid of them. But, I'm going to do it slowly. I don't want this kind of sneaky biz. The trustworthiness is long gone.
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I agree and I think there is momentum starting for others to do similar
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I’m in the same boat. Trying to slowly unplug from all things google
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nixCraft 🐧

@ip6li It is not that simple. please read mastodon.social/@nixCraft/1143… It is going to take much longer than just delete it.


This is what I call technical debt (not the exact situation but you get the gist of it) from using Gmail everywhere for personal use and projects. Now Google Drive and Gmail are part of my workflow because everyone else I interact with is also hooked into Google ecosystem because of Android phone or tablets, from governments to private citizens/bizness. It is really hard to get rid of them. But, I'm going to do it slowly. I don't want this kind of sneaky biz. The trustworthiness is long gone.

in reply to nixCraft 🐧

the easiest short term solution is to use @thunderbird and not use web interface. I haven't logged in to my Gmail web for more than 6 months.
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oh yeah ms does that aswell last time i notice in the ms store when you want to download something they put the login prompt but you can close it without issues.
Maybe they changed that.
Or dell has some additional data collection in the oobe but you dont have to check the box to continue
in reply to nixCraft 🐧

Ehm, there is a need to do this. And that need is inflating your numbers so you're able to tell your shareholders that your users like Gemini AI.

Now they're able to claim everyone that hit either "Continue" or "Try it now" as an active user of Gemini AI...

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disabling Google Assistant on my phone was also a similar experience
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Glad I've long since gotten used to looking for that little X; sometimes even hitting Escape doesn't do it...

- and also that I'm effectively off Google (still have a Gmail but it's dormant, until I'm sure I've replaced all the Google logins, at which point it can f*ck off and die).

in reply to nixCraft 🐧

I've seen debate that "continue" could mean "continue without enabling". Regardless, this is a dark pattern, since the "try it now" is where you would typically have the "no" option.
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Are you sure that number 2 is meant as 'Enable Gemini AI to write emails.'? To me it looks more like a normal next button with the intention to skip the topic. But nevertheless, the user design is really bad.
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This is one of the reasons I am #degoogling ... Just mopping up the stragglers now on email. Need to look into how to degoogle my phone now, though planning to install lineage os on it without Google apps should probably do it.
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Artificially juicing engagement numbers is so ingrained in Google company culture, not doing it would be like not breathing. It’s drilled into everyone to demonstrate β€œimpact” or else. I remember the first time an executive used the phrase β€œdefault opt-in” unironically, it blew up the internal memes. Now it’s just business as usual.
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Are you sure that option 3 turns off the AI?

Not trying to be facetious (well, maaaaaybe a little), yet do we trust Google to treat β€œno” as a β€œno”, having a rapist mentality about our data?

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Well, Google's current motto not for nothing is "Do Be Evil"....... Yes, they dropped the "n't" years ago...
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And the best part is #google doesn't even let you create accounts without a #gmail address.
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🀒 #NoAi #DeGoogle
I'm happier at Proton, at the moment. But AI is a malignant and metastatic cancer.
in reply to nixCraft 🐧

A month ago, Gmail offered Gemini to me on my corporate account. I decided to try it. It was total garbage. I decided to disable it. Didn't found the option. A search explained why: there is no way to disable it once it has been enabled.

Gemini is the new Google+.

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maybe this is one of the advantages of having a Google business account. That feature is NOT turned on for my business / domain. By the way, it is a business of two accounts.
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