He just mentioned #librephone (and LineageOS and Graphene, but no mention of #LinuxMobile alternatives. Do they really not know in Boston? Sure, fully blob-free alternatives are rare (IIRC, a #PinePhone with some kill-switches turned-off and atk9k_htc WiFi is at least close), but come on.
(If you want to help out do #advocacy under the linmob.net umbrella (or outside of it), please get in touch. Looks like we need to do better.)
By the way, how is Librem doing as a daily driver in 2025? Some people say it's slow.. Librem says its snappy in a blog post I've just read... Linux phone with working camera can't get out of my mind. Price vs specs is kind of out of this world now in 2025, and I'm kind of worried how long can they keep supporting 3GB RAM, and old CPU equipped device really, but still 🙃️
Depends what the user wants from a personal device, how they use it and what their priorities are. If someone's priorities are a modern camera, running proprietary Android apps and their money is held hostage by banks requiring #Duopoly apps, they should check back later, perhaps when the Librem 5 "Fir" model is released.
Depends what the user wants from a personal device, how they use it and what their priorities are. If someone's priorities are a modern camera, running proprietary Android apps and their money is held hostage by banks requiring #Duopoly apps, they should check back later, perhaps when the Librem 5 "Fir" model is released.
I'm using Phosh/Postmarket OS on Pixel 3a. With pretty much same app collection you mentioned Looks like Librem 5 would let me do the same plus camera and VoLTE (experimental on Pixel and didn't work straight away for me on T-Mobile in EU). That would be great. I have visible RAM limitations on Pixel, like Firefox ESR + Tuba + Kasts + DeltaChat is usually too much already and sth gets killed after a while. That's with 4GB, Librem has 3GB right?Is that similar?
Yes, RAM limitations on #Librem5 is something I have to take into consideration always, but it is still possible to run multiple apps simultaneously. Zram compression is enabled which helps. I can run Signal while listening on Kasts and also do a web search in Firefox with a small number of tabs open with around 70% RAM used (see screenshots).
The Liberty Phone has 4GB RAM so you'll get better performance.
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He just mentioned #librephone (and LineageOS and Graphene, but no mention of #LinuxMobile alternatives. Do they really not know in Boston? Sure, fully blob-free alternatives are rare (IIRC, a #PinePhone with some kill-switches turned-off and atk9k_htc WiFi is at least close), but come on.
(If you want to help out do #advocacy under the linmob.net umbrella (or outside of it), please get in touch. Looks like we need to do better.)
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in reply to Ati • • •Depends what the user wants from a personal device, how they use it and what their priorities are. If someone's priorities are a modern camera, running proprietary Android apps and their money is held hostage by banks requiring #Duopoly apps, they should check back later, perhaps when the Librem 5 "Fir" model is released.
On the other hand, if #FreeSoftware, #privacy, #modularity, #repairability, #ecofriendliness, #decentralisation, #digitalindependence, etc. are valued above other things, the Librem 5 and the higher-spec model, the #Lib
... show moreDepends what the user wants from a personal device, how they use it and what their priorities are. If someone's priorities are a modern camera, running proprietary Android apps and their money is held hostage by banks requiring #Duopoly apps, they should check back later, perhaps when the Librem 5 "Fir" model is released.
On the other hand, if #FreeSoftware, #privacy, #modularity, #repairability, #ecofriendliness, #decentralisation, #digitalindependence, etc. are valued above other things, the Librem 5 and the higher-spec model, the #LibertyPhone, can absolutely work in 2025 and beyond.
I am daily driving a #Librem5 with #postmarketOS and everything important to me works: VoLTE calls and SMS (although I avoid them due to #SaltTyphoon), 4G data, Wi-Fi, camera with OK quality photos (see: #ShotOnLibrem5), GPS with #PureMaps, web browsing with #FirefoxESR, web apps (including banking) using #GNOMEWeb and #BraveBrowser, email using #Geary and #DeltaChat, audio calls on #SignalMessenger, #Matrix ( #ElementMessenger), #XMPP ( #DinoIM), #JitsiMeet, etc.
There are occasional bugs and quirks, and the device itself has limitations but nothing that I can't work around.
Not sure if I missed anything. Let me know if you have a specific use case that you absolutely require and I'll see if I can test...
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in reply to Ati • • •Yes, RAM limitations on #Librem5 is something I have to take into consideration always, but it is still possible to run multiple apps simultaneously. Zram compression is enabled which helps. I can run Signal while listening on Kasts and also do a web search in Firefox with a small number of tabs open with around 70% RAM used (see screenshots).
The Liberty Phone has 4GB RAM so you'll get better performance.
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