This week we released AntennaPod 3.0 β three reasons why the latest update rocks π€ β¦ The Home screen personalises your experience while maintaining your privacy β¦ Our Material Design interface can adapt to your wallpaper colour palette β¦ You can now use multi-select in the Inbox to clean it up even faster
Unfortunately the new home screen is senseless and annoying. It's the idea of an App of a big cooperation where the KPI of "time of active interaction by customer" is targeted. Most of the time this results in worse user experience, because more interactions/scrolling is forced onto users by introducing a worse UI. By accident, you hit that too. Queue shows 2.6 items unless scrolled sideways. 2.6 is too much for just returning >>
to the last episodes played. Also the last active episode is available at the bottom player overlay. Therefore one item of the 2.6 displayed Queue is redundant. Next is "what's new", 2 items shown, which most of the times is way less than items available (new downloads should be automated any ways). If one side scrolls on "what's new" like on Queue, Download items become dismissed. On "Get surprised" it looks like the "Queue" block, but is not scrollable at all, but "classics" is. >>
Also "classics" is just the subscribed podcasts without any order and name (it's just a picture and some podcasts don't include any or any meaningful picture at all).
TLDR: Podcast App added a feature as useful as the home screen of an Samsung TV :/
Hi @gom, thanks for the extensive feedback. Let's look at each of your points.
> the KPI of "time of active interaction by customer" is targeted
That was most certainly not the reason our volunteer team initiated this work. The motivation was a) results from user tests indicating it was confusing not to have a central start screen & b) interest of active contributors to navigate the app without any menu. Have a look here to see the discussions: github.com/AntennaPod/AntennaPβ¦ & forum.antennapod.org/t/home-scβ¦
In my usability studies, users were sometimes confused by the lack of a "home" screen. The home screen would be a sidebar entry like the existing ones (and can therefore be hidden by long-pressing)...
@gom > Queue shows 2.6 items unless scrolled sideways. 2.6 is too much for just returning to the last episodes played
Why is it too much? (We could display just 1 episode and leave whitespace, but that's not really helpful either.) The purpose, as explained in our blog post (antennapod.org/blog/2023/05/inβ¦), is to allow users to continue listening to episodes they started but didn't finish yet. These episodes may be spread over the queue, making this compact overview handy for this specific purpose.
@gom > the last active episode is available at the bottom player overlay. Therefore one item of the 2.6 displayed Queue is redundant.
We have been struggling with this also. The problem: when you press play on an item it would disappear from that row, because it's already in the mini-player. This can lead to unexpected behaviour with episodes dis-/reappearing. See also enhancement request and discussion here: github.com/AntennaPod/AntennaP⦠(feel free to suggest other solutions).
Checklist I have used the search function for open and closed issues to see if someone else has already submitted the same feature request. I will describe the problem with as much detail as possib...
@gom > Next is "what's new", 2 items shown, which most of the times is way less than items available
Including the full list would go against the purpose of the Home screen (providing an overview & quick entry points to several screens). Including many very long lists would make the Home screen hard to use. It's a balance we have to strike. Concrete suggestions for tweaking the balance welcome!
Remember that this is not the case for everyone: it's a user setting, so it depends on your context.
> If one side scrolls on "what's new" like on Queue, Download items become dismissed.
That can happen indeed. The different patterns stem from their 'parent' screens: inbox has swipe actions that we want to maintain. In other blocks we wanted to give more visual visibility to the episode covers. We trust it's a matter of getting used to.
@gom > Also "classics" is just the subscribed podcasts without any order and name (it's just a picture and some podcasts don't include any or any meaningful picture at all).
There is an order actually, based on hours of listening. While some podcasts might not include a meaningful image, that really is a minority. In a large majority of cases displaying a title would be superfluous.
@gom > TLDR: Podcast App added a feature as useful as the home screen of an Samsung TV :/
This feature has been under active discussion & development for over two years. Many people were involved and gave feedback. But of course it's possible it's not for you. In that case you can, as with many other things in AntennaPod, adjust it to your liking and turn off the Home screen. Simply long-press the side-menu and disable the Home screen. Via the settings you can also change your 'Default page'.
@gom If you'd like to think along and make concrete suggestions on the Home screen or anything else, you're most welcome to join our forum (forum.antennapod.org) and/or our community meetings (antennapod.org/events/communitβ¦)!
I'm not sure if I like the new home screen but at least I can also use the app almost exactly as I did before. And I value the effort π However, sadly, with the 3.0 release AntennaPod has become very slow at startup for me. It takes roughly 5 seconds to load. I use a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact (not a slow one)
I have been struggling with the world of podcast apps for 20 years and am absolutely blown away by how good #Antennapod is. Every feature I always wanted captured in one app. #podcasts have become the curated radio stream and thanks to private RSS and Patreon you can support the ones you want.
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When you start paying for a podcast the stats now don't start from 0 again, I LOVE it β€
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in reply to Raulo • • •Most welcome! 3.0 is already available in F-Droid. If you don't see it yet, be sure to refresh your sources.
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Unfortunately the new home screen is senseless and annoying. It's the idea of an App of a big cooperation where the KPI of "time of active interaction by customer" is targeted. Most of the time this results in worse user experience, because more interactions/scrolling is forced onto users by introducing a worse UI. By accident, you hit that too.
Queue shows 2.6 items unless scrolled sideways. 2.6 is too much for just returning >>
gom
in reply to gom • • •Next is "what's new", 2 items shown, which most of the times is way less than items available (new downloads should be automated any ways). If one side scrolls on "what's new" like on Queue, Download items become dismissed.
On "Get surprised" it looks like the "Queue" block, but is not scrollable at all, but "classics" is. >>
gom
in reply to gom • • •Also "classics" is just the subscribed podcasts without any order and name (it's just a picture and some podcasts don't include any or any meaningful picture at all).
TLDR: Podcast App added a feature as useful as the home screen of an Samsung TV :/
AntennaPod
in reply to gom • • •Hi @gom, thanks for the extensive feedback. Let's look at each of your points.
> the KPI of "time of active interaction by customer" is targeted
That was most certainly not the reason our volunteer team initiated this work. The motivation was a) results from user tests indicating it was confusing not to have a central start screen & b) interest of active contributors to navigate the app without any menu. Have a look here to see the discussions: github.com/AntennaPod/AntennaPβ¦ & forum.antennapod.org/t/home-scβ¦
"Home" screen Β· Issue #3952 Β· AntennaPod/AntennaPod
GitHubAntennaPod
in reply to AntennaPod • • •@gom
> Queue shows 2.6 items unless scrolled sideways. 2.6 is too much for just returning to the last episodes played
Why is it too much? (We could display just 1 episode and leave whitespace, but that's not really helpful either.)
The purpose, as explained in our blog post (antennapod.org/blog/2023/05/inβ¦), is to allow users to continue listening to episodes they started but didn't finish yet. These episodes may be spread over the queue, making this compact overview handy for this specific purpose.
Welcome Home! π Introducing AntennaPodβs new default screen β AntennaPod
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> the last active episode is available at the bottom player overlay. Therefore one item of the 2.6 displayed Queue is redundant.
We have been struggling with this also. The problem: when you press play on an item it would disappear from that row, because it's already in the mini-player. This can lead to unexpected behaviour with episodes dis-/reappearing. See also enhancement request and discussion here: github.com/AntennaPod/AntennaP⦠(feel free to suggest other solutions).
Don't show currently playing episode under "Continue listening" in home screen Β· Issue #6445 Β· AntennaPod/AntennaPod
GitHubAntennaPod
in reply to AntennaPod • • •@gom
> Next is "what's new", 2 items shown, which most of the times is way less than items available
Including the full list would go against the purpose of the Home screen (providing an overview & quick entry points to several screens). Including many very long lists would make the Home screen hard to use. It's a balance we have to strike. Concrete suggestions for tweaking the balance welcome!
AntennaPod
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> new downloads should be automated any ways
Remember that this is not the case for everyone: it's a user setting, so it depends on your context.
> If one side scrolls on "what's new" like on Queue, Download items become dismissed.
That can happen indeed. The different patterns stem from their 'parent' screens: inbox has swipe actions that we want to maintain. In other blocks we wanted to give more visual visibility to the episode covers. We trust it's a matter of getting used to.
AntennaPod
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> On "Get surprised" it looks like the "Queue" block, but is not scrollable at all, but "classics" is.
It actually is scrollable like the Queue block. Maybe you don't have a large backlog of episodes, and only the few qualifying ones are shown.
AntennaPod
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> Also "classics" is just the subscribed podcasts without any order and name (it's just a picture and some podcasts don't include any or any meaningful picture at all).
There is an order actually, based on hours of listening. While some podcasts might not include a meaningful image, that really is a minority. In a large majority of cases displaying a title would be superfluous.
AntennaPod
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> TLDR: Podcast App added a feature as useful as the home screen of an Samsung TV :/
This feature has been under active discussion & development for over two years. Many people were involved and gave feedback. But of course it's possible it's not for you. In that case you can, as with many other things in AntennaPod, adjust it to your liking and turn off the Home screen. Simply long-press the side-menu and disable the Home screen. Via the settings you can also change your 'Default page'.
AntennaPod
in reply to AntennaPod • • •If you'd like to think along and make concrete suggestions on the Home screen or anything else, you're most welcome to join our forum (forum.antennapod.org) and/or our community meetings (antennapod.org/events/communitβ¦)!
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in reply to AntennaPod • • •Thanks a lot for the answers!
TIL: Long pressing to change default start screen. This App is love! :)
kay π€ R.I.P. #natenom
in reply to AntennaPod • • •However, sadly, with the 3.0 release AntennaPod has become very slow at startup for me. It takes roughly 5 seconds to load. I use a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact (not a slow one)
William Bell
in reply to AntennaPod • • •I have been struggling with the world of podcast apps for 20 years and am absolutely blown away by how good #Antennapod is. Every feature I always wanted captured in one app. #podcasts have become the curated radio stream and thanks to private RSS and Patreon you can support the ones you want.
Great work πππ Antennapod community!
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