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Why Progressives Must Let Go of Their Democratic Goldilocks Complex


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What the US (and Canada) needs is electoral reform so they (and we) are not locked into this two party system, two manifestly corrupt parties that cannot be challenged for fear of the other guys who are worse. Electoral results are determined by a handful of waffling voters who happen to live in strategic ridings and often do not even reflect the majority popular vote. This is the sickness of "First past the post"
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Um in Canada we currently have five parties with seats in the house...
in reply to Adam Hunt

Yes, but only two have ever formed government (federally) and so many people believe they have to chose between those two. It's conceivable there could be an upset a la Alberta 2015 and the NDP could get in, so we are definitely better off than the USA (without even getting into the supply and confidence agreement, influence of the Bloc, two Green MPs that punch far above their weight despite obstacles put in their way etc).

But my main point stands.

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While that is true that we have only had two parties form governments, the current five party parliament has meant a lot of minority governments like we have now and those translate into deals, like the current "supply and confidence" with the NDP. And that gives the NDP a lot of clout. Not quite governing level, but at least priority setting. And our parties cover a much bigger section of the political spectrum, as well.
in reply to Adam Hunt

yes, that is true. Still, due to first past the post we have a greatly distorted distribution of seats in parliament in comparison to the popular vote. The minority parties actually should have more seats and more clout.

2019 Election

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There has been a small movement towards "rank choice voting" here in the US, but the major parties have been opposing it. They claim it is "too hard".
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I would not register Democrat unless the party platform actually supported the agenda which would benefit the most people. The Democratic Party remains fixated on the rich and middle class, and has little to offer the poor, and fails completely in addressing Climate Change. The Democratic Party is the party for status quo, while the Republicans have gone off the rails. Being "not Republican" is not good enough, and I resist this "team player" ethos which only adheres people to a regime of loyalty and group think.
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Us Democrats asking, once again, to believe in the system, will ring hollow to many.

Not only does it "ring hollow", it shows failure on a number of critical fronts - medical care and climate change being at the top of the list. US militarism and foreign policy are in there also...

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Thanks @tomgrzybow I appreciate the perspective. Is there a political party is democratically elected by the majority that you would better ideal? My question is rooted in the problem of an idealized party that never holds power has that advantage. Here in Vermont there is some pretty clear political will to address climate change, while at the same time my home and many others have oil fired furnaces. We could tax heating oil and encourage installation of heat pumps, but for someone living on the edge making even small adjustments may be beyond reach. I want to replace our oil heater with a geothermal system. But that would cost many thousands of dollars. Thoughts? Cheers, -Randy
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I do believe in the system. I believe that the US federal government is a fully realized fascist entity exclusively serving the needs and whims of the wealthy.

Don't get me wrong - I'm thankful our wealthy masters threw us a bone with Biden and Harris.

I'm also thankful I ditched Idaho and moved to Minnesota where our core values bring us together and strengthen us as a people.

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Politics is like riding a bus. If one isn't going where you want to go, you don't stay home, you take the bus that goes closer to your destination.
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@randygalbraith

This is why we need a radical wholistic strategy. Small and incremental actions will not solve the problem, and at the same time will be impractical for many.

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I’ve suggested here that given Elon Musk’s comments about NPR folks should not use Twitter (now X). Isn’t my ability to publicly suggest that an indication that Elon’s wealth-power has limits?

I may have a predisposition to negativity, but it seems to me that "No" is the most powerful stance of all. No amount of wealth can touch it.