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This article is trash, and a lie that white parents in the suburbs tell themselves. Trump didn't make Hudson Valley kids racist/sexist. Your kids were already that way, but you don't listen to Black kids, so you don't know that.

amp.theguardian.com/commentisf…

NY State is Blacker than the US overall, but Hudson Valley is much whiter than the US overall. Ask a Black New Yorker why that is.

And stop pretending that manly men are conservative. Again: Black men are more masculine + more progressive.

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in reply to mekka okereke :verified:

Because they designed the bridges on the parkways to be too low for buses to get through? On purpose? So that blacks and other minorities couldn't even get jobs north of the city, let alone live there?

Sorry, I cheated, been living in New England a long time. 🙄

in reply to Wyatt H Knott

@whknott Holy shit! Is that why? I live in Arizona, so I'm not too familiar with the area, but I was driving through there 10 years ago with a freakin' RV and it's impossible to get around anywhere there in one of those.

I should've known. Motherfuckers. I knew a LOT of transit and highways are the way they are because racism, but I still learn more.

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in reply to mekka okereke :verified:

Abandoning kids to the algorithms pushing extremism and to shtbags like Andrew Tate & his ilk have done enormous damage.
in reply to wendinoakland for Kamala

@wendinoakland

Black kids are online *a lot* more than white kids.

And yet, most Black boys think Tate is a loser, and that his fans are even bigger losers. Before the news became common knowledge, I explained what most Black men think of Tate. (CW: Discussion of Tate. It's bad. You really don't have to read this.
hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/109… )

The NY Times' trash crime coverage, and copaganda shows like "Law and Order" have done much more to encourage racism in these kids than social media has.

in reply to mekka okereke :verified:

@wendinoakland The algorithm shows different kids different stuff.

IMO, the tell in the original story is the dieting. That's always been a really niche idea, but selling diet pills to healthy people is literally the business of right-wing radio.

in reply to Tom Bellin :picardfacepalm:

@tob @wendinoakland

You don't think Black kids and girls of all races get shown Tate videos too? They do. The difference is who responds to it, likes it, searches for more, favorites, shares, comments positively on, Tate videos. I'll tell you who: losers that hate women and girls.

Recommendation systems don't magically know what you like before you've interacted.

The whole fitness industry sells stuff! But again, not everyone sporty goes fash. It's not fitness, or sports, or masculinity.

in reply to mekka okereke :verified:

@wendinoakland I think you're being too reductive. These kids don't start out fascist.

I'm not trying to give them excuses. They are making conscious choices based on the media that's presented to them.

If we get out of this, we're going to have to seriously grapple with the challenge to society of giving anyone with an internet connection unfettered access to our brains.

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in reply to Tom Bellin :picardfacepalm:

@tob If the kids were brought up to be anti-racist they'd think racism is stupid. If they'd been brought up to treat girls as equals they'd treat girls as equals and think sexism is stupid. These are values that are learned at home. @mekkaokereke @wendinoakland
in reply to mekka okereke :verified:

@mekka okereke :verified: What kind of "toxic" "masculinity" are you talking about? No, there is no "more masculine" men. No among one or another skin tone people, no among an ethnic group, no among anyone.
Really, there is no such "masculinity" or "feminity". Genders exists but "masculinity" or "feminity" or "no-binarity" doesn't.
in reply to forza4galicia

@forza4galicia

I kind of agree?

Race isn't real. Racism is very real.

In the same way, masculinity as a concept that guides people's behaviour and judgement of others, is very real. Even though the definition varies between people, and is self-contradictory. 🙂🙃

Black men *see themselves* as more masculine. Other races *see Black men* as more masculine. It doesn't matter that the concept of masculinity is made up, inconsistent, amorphous, and paradoxical. Eg:

hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/113…

in reply to mekka okereke :verified:

@mekka okereke :verified: Racism isn't real, but elitism based in skin tone is very real.
Masculinity is a elitist construction (like feminity) in order to restrict freedom of action and freedom of decision to human beings.
No, there is such thing that someone can be "more" masculine or feminine. One person can be masculine or feminine respect his/her gender autodetermination, but masculine and feminine are qualities and it doesn't accept to be quantified.
Then: Noone can be "more" or "less" masculine or feminine. Someone can be masculine, femenine , no-binary or more, only like a quality, without any possible quantification, nor numeric/absolute (1,2,3...) or relative (more/less).

Summarizing: Noone can be "more" masculine or feminine.

in reply to mekka okereke :verified:

@mekka okereke :verified: In the same way: Yes, definitely Trump influence is crucial to understand, at some point, the increment of "racism", "skin-tonism" and ethnicism in the US and, particularly, in the more elitist ambients (NYC, big cities with artificially raised prices,etc.).